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Are you Israel or The Body of Christ? Well?

 
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"Pleroo - Fulfil, cause to Abound, supply liberally"

Matthew 5:18 does not use "Pleroo" rather: ginomai

Strongs G1096 - fulfilled - to be made, finished


Your are mistaken over and over.
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Even though you are nothing but a NPC bothead. Exposed in your hate

By the principle of first mention, the word Nomos is without a doubt referencing the Torah

Matthew 5:17

Think not that I am come to destroy the Torah,G3551 or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Matthew 5:18

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the Torah, G3551 till all be fulfilled.

Psalms 78:1
Give ear, O My people, to My Torah: incline your ears to the words of My mouth.

2 I will open My mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:

Matthew 13:13

Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

Depart from Me workers Anomia Without G3551 Torah

People like you hate the Hebrew roots of the faith in conjunction with a people you hate, which will not save your sorry ass from the flame.

all you have in you is hate and darkness, a peon pawn of the god of this world, upon whom the wrath of GOD abides

and all because that was your choice

annihilation, destroyed forever as an everlasting punishment, just like you never existed a real NPC
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What hate?

You are the one with hate cursing.

I mentioned that you twist scripture as you do.

The Christ fulfilled. Like it was upon the cross.


If the temple was destroyed the law can not be fulfilled as clearly it was by the Christ and all that remains is the covenant (commandments). The Christ kept every jot and tittle.

You are blind and naked.
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Matthew 5:17
“Think not that I am come to destroy the Torah, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.”

Pleroo - Fulfil, cause to Abound, supply liberally

Isaiah 42:21
YHWH is well pleased for His righteousness' sake; He will magnify the Torah, and make it honourable.

Psalms 119:142
Thy Righteousness is an Everlasting Righteousness, And Thy Torah is the Truth

God is Spirit and those that worship Him, must worship Him in spirit and in truth.

either God is a liar or you are a liar?

I'll stick with what The word of God plainly says, And to Confess means to say the same thing as another in Greek, You on the other hand, on the left do not say what YESHUA said commanding them to be observed, which makes it obvious whom you serve, sincerity in what you think doesn't make it right, even though my impression is your not sincere at all, even if you are sincerely deceived, it ends the same way, there is a way that seems right, and it end in destruction.

Are you lost past the point of no return? wherein let the righteous remain righteous still and let the unrighteous remain unrighteous still

Already given over to a debased mind?

That only He knows for sure.

But I have my suspicions, even inspired ones.
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The word clearly makes sense.


The temple was destroyed as the Christ died making His people like priests taking communion with Him in tge holy place.

As such that in itself breaks your nonsense.

And its nonsense if any believe that the law beyond the commandments was kept by Paul as there was no temple.

As such you fail.
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I refer you to the first post on this page, you're no different than the false witnesses that accused Paul of not keeping the Torah while he was still alive ... In order to prove that he kept the Torah, Paul helped to pay for the Oblation, the Blood sacrifice that was required to end a Nazarite vow four men had made to find out if he kept the Torah, And Paul purified himself and did everything that was asked of him,

To PROVE that he walked orderly and Kept the Torah

either Paul is the biggest hypocrite of all time, or he is misunderstood just like Peter said that he was by the unlearned that were contemporary with him, referencing those that did not know the torah teaches, they twist what Paul taught out of its Biblical and Historical context as they do all the scriptures to their own destruction.

End of story

I'm done with you.
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What hate?

You are the one with hate cursing.

I mentioned that you twist scripture as you do.

The Christ fulfilled. Like it was upon the cross.


If the temple was destroyed the law can not be fulfilled as clearly it was by the Christ and all that remains is the covenant (commandments). The Christ kept every jot and tittle.

You are blind and naked.
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Matthew 5:17
“Think not that I am come to destroy the Torah, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.”

Pleroo - Fulfil, cause to Abound, supply liberally

Isaiah 42:21
YHWH is well pleased for His righteousness' sake; He will magnify the Torah, and make it honourable.

Psalms 119:142
Thy Righteousness is an Everlasting Righteousness, And Thy Torah is the Truth

God is Spirit and those that worship Him, must worship Him in spirit and in truth.

either God is a liar or you are a liar?

I'll stick with what The word of God plainly says, And to Confess means to say the same thing as another in Greek, You on the other hand, on the left do not say what YESHUA said commanding them to be observed, which makes it obvious whom you serve, sincerity in what you think doesn't make it right, even though my impression is your not sincere at all, even if you are sincerely deceived, it ends the same way, there is a way that seems right, and it end in destruction.

Are you lost past the point of no return? wherein let the righteous remain righteous still and let the unrighteous remain unrighteous still

Already given over to a debased mind?

That only He knows for sure.

But I have my suspicions, even inspired ones.
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The word clearly makes sense.


The temple was destroyed as the Christ died making His people like priests taking communion with Him in tge holy place.

As such that in itself breaks your nonsense.

And its nonsense if any believe that the law beyond the commandments was kept by Paul as there was no temple.

As such you fail.
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I refer you to the first post on this page, you're no different than the false witnesses that accused Paul of not keeping the Torah while he was still alive ... In order to prove that he kept the Torah, Paul helped to pay for the Oblation, the Blood sacrifice that was required to end a Nazarite vow four men had made to find out if he kept the Torah, And Paul purified himself and did everything that was asked of him,

To PROVE that he walked orderly and Kept the Torah

either Paul is the biggest hypocrite of all time, or he is misunderstood just like Peter said that he was by the unlearned that were contemporary with him, referencing those that did not know the torah teaches, they twist what Paul taught out of its Biblical and Historical context as they do all the scriptures to their own destruction.

End of story

I'm done with you.
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First post on this page

Thread: Are you Israel or The Body of Christ? Well? (Page 4)

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You shill the verse by adding "Torah" and subtracting "law" sttongs G3551.
To make it look like Paul was refering to the laws kept by the synig0ge of Satan. Those the Christ warns about.




the Torah is the compilation of the first five books of the Hebrew Bible, namely the books of Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. In that sense, Torah means the same as Pentateuch or the Five Books of Moses...THE LAW.


you not read who sos is? rev.2:9 and 3:9

the corrupted ones went into captivity w the real ones when zedekiah was taken to babylon. after captivity their names were not written in genealogy but they had taken over the books that levitical priest were to take care of.
details in nehemiah and ezra.

the real ones are from the same tribe as king david ...king line to Messiah. be careful...that word is very tricky...this why Lord said you will know them by their fruits.
Moses was a levite...ex.2

those that say they are and are not but the sos
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"Torah" can not be kept without the tabernacle or temple if the law remained the same as given to Moses.

As such through the death of the Christ the law was fulfilled.


You tards say otherwise and interpret Pauls writings to reflect your delusion.

When in reality the word is full of evidence of the contrary such as: David eating the shewbred. Destruction of Temple. Peters dream, etc.
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"Pleroo - Fulfil, cause to Abound, supply liberally"

Matthew 5:18 does not use "Pleroo" rather: ginomai

Strongs G1096 - fulfilled - to be made, finished


Your are mistaken over and over.
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I missed this before being done

Has heaven and earth passed away, because not the least stroke will pass away until that happens

You are a deceiver, because you went to a different verse that has a different word for fulfilled, pulled it out of the context, for as such heaven and earth have not passed away, and simply taken your illogic to the extreme, that means every prophecy in the Bible has already been fulfilled.

Twisting scriptures to suit your need, typical of the lawless

Matthew 5:17

Think not that I am come to destroy the Torah, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil G4137.

G4137 Pleroo

to make full, to fill up, i.e. to fill to the full

to cause to abound, to furnish or supply liberally

I abound, I am liberally supplied

to render full, i.e. to complete

to fill to the top: so that nothing shall be wanting to full measure, fill to the brim

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"Pleroo - Fulfil, cause to Abound, supply liberally"

Matthew 5:18 does not use "Pleroo" rather: ginomai

Strongs G1096 - fulfilled - to be made, finished


Your are mistaken over and over.
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I missed this before being done

Has heaven and earth passed away, because not the least stroke will pass away until that happens

You are a deceiver, because you went to a different verse that has a different word for fulfilled, pulled it out of the context, for as such heaven and earth have not passed away, and simply taken your illogic to the extreme, that means every prophecy in the Bible has already been fulfilled.

Twisting scriptures to suit your need, typical of the lawless

Matthew 5:17

Think not that I am come to destroy the Torah, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil G4137.

G4137 Pleroo

to make full, to fill up, i.e. to fill to the full

to cause to abound, to furnish or supply liberally

I abound, I am liberally supplied

to render full, i.e. to complete

to fill to the top: so that nothing shall be wanting to full measure, fill to the brim

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When the Christ died saying "it is finished" it was finished. He took the keys to death and hell, rose again and ascended into heaven. Left is the judgement.

Why would one say it was finished if it wasnt?


Again more out of context conjecture from you that fails in testing.
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"Torah" can not be kept without the tabernacle or temple if the law remained the same as given to Moses.



HUH?
Moses was giving law before they built Tabernacle in wilderness.
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now i understand so many people are killing stealing cheating...the law no good. maybe it just eat and be merry time?
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fulfill means to complete - not to spread out of distribute as you claim. This is obvious by the context of the entire word.

The Christ fulfilled the law written on stone and the Spirit Holy dwelt in hearts where the law was written on flesh anc the apostles became as priest kings and were able to have communion with the Christ in the Holy place.

The context of the entire bible confirms this. Why was the veil torn but to illustrate this.
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"Torah" can not be kept without the tabernacle or temple if the law remained the same as given to Moses.



HUH?
Moses was giving law before they built Tabernacle in wilderness.
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Boker Tov

Yes it was, Noah even knew the Torah = Instructions taking seven pairs of the clean and one pair of the unclean into the Ark, a preacher of Righteousness

Abraham kept the Torah, all that he was asked to do, for such all the nations are blessed.

Genesis 26:4

And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;

Genesis 26:5

Because that Abraham obeyed My voice, and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My Torahs.

John 8:39

They answered and said unto Him, Abraham is our father. YESHUA saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
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Right Division will 100% clarify so many biblical questions in the Bible.

Stop combining Israel doctrine with The Body of Christ Doctrine.

Each has a separate plan for Salvation and a different inheritance.

One is saved by Grace, one is not.

One is Pre-trib rapture on is Post-trib rapture

One inherits Heaven, one inherits Earth.




Paul was the first in the Body of Christ. EVERYONE who comes after is too until the "times of the Gentiles" ends.


1 Tim 1: 15, 16


15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a patternto them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.



So are you Israel or the Body of Christ?

Well?


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The tabernacle of David is the Old Testament name for the body of Christ.
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Boker Tov

Yes it was, Noah even knew the Torah = Instructions taking seven pairs of the clean and one pair of the unclean into the Ark, a preacher of Righteousness

Abraham kept the Torah, all that he was asked to do, for such all the nations are blessed.

Genesis 26:4

And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;

Genesis 26:5

Because that Abraham obeyed My voice, and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My Torahs.

John 8:39

They answered and said unto Him, Abraham is our father. YESHUA saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.




YES INDEED. they were loyal trusted servants
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Old covenant retards.
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even enoch was righteous before the Lord
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"Torah" can not be kept without the tabernacle or temple if the law remained the same as given to Moses.



HUH?
Moses was giving law before they built Tabernacle in wilderness.
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To a point you could say this. But the whole could not be kept until in the holy land.

Like the whole can not be kept without the tabernacle or temple. As it was designed this way - to be fulfilled by the Christ.

As the jubilee year could only be determined by the planting of seed in the promised land.

As such the wilderness was different. As is now according to the design of the Lord.

As such it is finished. Temple re built in 3 days not by human hands. No more ritual.

The apostles eating and drinking former J and gents communing together in the holy place with the Christ.
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That’s exactly what I shared about the golden calf, He’s speaking to the House of Israel in the Wilderness after He brought them out of Egypt. He destroyed them for doing the Feasts in their own way!

It says “YOUR FEASTS”. Believe me, GOD sees Christmas and Easter the same way.
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No, He’s talking about future Israel and judgment against them in the 7-year Tribulation particularly the latter half also called the Great Tribulation. This is a prophetic word in Amos and the entire scripture passage is labeled ‘Day of the Lord’. The two verses directly before the scripture I posted above tells you what He’s referencing and to whom which is the Great Tribulation period when the bride of Christ is gone and judgment and wrath commences on Israel or those who’ve forsaken Him, refused His son, and turned to idols. His mentioning of the the time in wilderness below which was two-faced idol worship is exactly what Israel is doing today to Him. He’s lamenting the fact that nothing had changed going back to when Israel was in the wilderness for 40 years. Nothing had changed with them, this is why they are called adulterers and whores. This is why the book of Revelation is 12,000 words long exactly to highlight who that book centers around regarding judgment which is Israel and the 12,000 taken from each tribe of Israel as the way to salvation (the 144,000 are sealed because they finally turned to Christ). This is why the 7-year Tribulation will take place, it’s judgment on Israel. When the church is removed, grace is lifted, the restrainer is removed (the degree to which he holds back evil and lawlessness is removed) and the 7-year Tribulation begins.

20 Is not the day of the Lord darkness, and not light?
Is it not very dark, with no brightness in it?

21 “I hate, I despise your feast days,
And I do not savor your sacred assemblies.
22 Though you offer Me burnt offerings and your grain offerings,
I will not accept them,
Nor will I regard your fattened peace offerings.
23 Take away from Me the noise of your songs,
For I will not hear the melody of your stringed instruments.
24 But let justice run down like water,
And righteousness like a mighty stream.
25 “Did you offer Me sacrifices and offerings
In the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel?
26 You also carried [e]Sikkuth[f] your king
And Chiun, your idols,
The star of your gods,
Which you made for yourselves.
27 Therefore I will send you into captivity beyond Damascus,”
Says the Lord, whose name is the God of hosts.
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Exodus 10:21-23

The Plague of Darkness

21 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Stretch out your hand toward the sky so that darkness spreads over Egypt—darkness that can be felt.” 22 So Moses stretched out his hand toward the sky, and total darkness covered all Egypt for three days. 23 No one could see anyone else or move about for three days. Yet all the Israelites had light in the places where they lived.
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Started a thread on how Galilean weddings in the 1st century mirror exactly the marriage union Biblically between Christ and His bride. Hope you check it out and come to the truth.

Thread: Galilean wedding reveals Rapture
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Why was the veil torn but to illustrate this.



He tells you!

the priest would go into the holies of holies to offer sacrifices for the sins of the people. Lord rent the veil meaning we can go straight to the LORD...we need no priests to intervene. we can talk to Him like a friend. sacrifices no more cause blood of goats and bulls could not save us...but the blood of Messiah can.
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"Torah" can not be kept without the tabernacle or temple if the law remained the same as given to Moses.



HUH?
Moses was giving law before they built Tabernacle in wilderness.
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Boker Tov

Yes it was, Noah even knew the Torah = Instructions taking seven pairs of the clean and one pair of the unclean into the Ark, a preacher of Righteousness

Abraham kept the Torah, all that he was asked to do, for such all the nations are blessed.

Genesis 26:4

And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;

Genesis 26:5

Because that Abraham obeyed My voice, and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My Torahs.

John 8:39

They answered and said unto Him, Abraham is our father. YESHUA saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
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Matthew 12

3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;

4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?

5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?

6 But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple.

7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.


As such the rituals do not matter.
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Why was the veil torn but to illustrate this.



He tells you!

the priest would go into the holies of holies to offer sacrifices for the sins of the people. Lord rent the veil meaning we can go straight to the LORD...we need no priests to intervene. we can talk to Him like a friend. sacrifices no more cause blood of goats and bulls could not save us...but the blood of Messiah can.
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So the torah changed.

As I have illustrated from the beginning.


And those that strive to teach others about the dietary ritual nonsense should keep to themselves if they wish to and understand their teaching is not biblical.
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fulfill means to complete - not to spread out of distribute as you claim. This is obvious by the context of the entire word.

The Christ fulfilled the law written on stone and the Spirit Holy dwelt in hearts where the law was written on flesh anc the apostles became as priest kings and were able to have communion with the Christ in the Holy place.

The context of the entire bible confirms this. Why was the veil torn but to illustrate this.
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Did He fulfill the laws that only pertain to women thus abolishing them? No, He didn't

How about the laws that only apply to the Levitical priests? No, He didn't

How about the laws that only apply to farmers? No, He didn't

Those that keep the Torah = His Instructions, keep the ones that apply to them, all of the ones that can be kept without a Temple. Keep means that they guard them, preserve them ,put a hedge around them in Hebrew, the word Shamar. Rehearsals for when all flesh will keep His Appointments

By abolishing the Torah, you are abolishing all of it, which includes the most important things that are taught in the Torah. Judgement Mercy and Faith

Matthew 23:23
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the Torah, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

By their traditions they had made void the word of God, which is not any different from what christendom has done by her traditions of christmas and easter

YESHUA rebuked the religious rulers for not keeping the Torah because of their traditions.

Today if you keep the Torah, and don't keep the pagan traditions that neither YESHUA or His Disciples would have ever kept, you're called a pharisee. Ironic isn't it.
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So the torah changed.

As I have illustrated from the beginning.






NO...blood sacrifices. Lord has law...statutes...ordinances and judgements.
Christ became our PASSOVER LAMB.
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Christ in the Passover week became the Lamb slain for everyone, and reveals Gods love for us

.1 Corinthians 5:7
“Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:”
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By their traditions they had made void the word of God, which is not any different from what christendom has done by her traditions of christmas and easter

YESHUA rebuked the religious rulers for not keeping the Torah because of their traditions.

Today if you keep the Torah, and don't keep the pagan traditions that neither YESHUA or His Disciples would have ever kept, you're called a pharisee. Ironic isn't it.



NO KIDDING!
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Romans 7:22

For I delight in the Torah of God after the Inward man.

After Paul was born again, He delighted in Keeping the Torah

Romans 3:31

Do we make void the Torah by faith, Forbid, yea, we establish the Torah

Why do Believers establish and uphold the Torah?

Because it is written upon their hearts, The New Covenant

Romans 2:13
(For not the hearers of the Torah are just before God, but the doers of the Torah shall be justified.

Those that are saved keep the Torah, delight in it, not because it saves them, but because they are saved.

....

If you are unable to say as Paul said that he delighted in the Torah after being saved, then there's a very strong possibility that you are not saved.

Once a person has put on the glasses of the spirit of iniquity, only the Holy Spirit can open their eyes as to how they are blind, wretched and naked, that they might repent.

Sin is breaking the Torah

Repentance is to stop breaking it, turn from your sin

Whoever practices sin is a slave to sin.

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You shill the verse by adding "Torah" and subtracting "law" sttongs G3551.


To make it look like Paul was refering to the laws kept by the synig0ge of Satan. Those the Christ warns about.



epiclol

Pathetic.
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Even though you are nothing but a NPC bothead. Exposed in your hate

By the principle of first mention, the word Nomos is without a doubt referencing the Torah

Matthew 5:17

Think not that I am come to destroy the Torah,G3551 or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Matthew 5:18

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the Torah, G3551 till all be fulfilled.

Psalms 78:1
Give ear, O My people, to My Torah: incline your ears to the words of My mouth.

2 I will open My mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:

Matthew 13:13

Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

Depart from Me workers Anomia Without G3551 Torah

People like you hate the Hebrew roots of the faith in conjunction with a people you hate, which will not save your sorry ass from the flame.

all you have in you is hate and darkness, a peon pawn of the god of this world, upon whom the wrath of GOD abides

and all because that was your choice

annihilation, destroyed forever as an everlasting punishment, just like you never existed a real NPC
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What hate?

You are the one with hate cursing.

I mentioned that you twist scripture as you do.

The Christ fulfilled. Like it was upon the cross.


If the temple was destroyed the law can not be fulfilled as clearly it was by the Christ and all that remains is the covenant (commandments). The Christ kept every jot and tittle.

You are blind and naked.
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I would rather be blind and naked than blissfully ignorant to the truth as you have demonstrated.

Remember that was the second temple destroyed.

Fortunately the Bible warns us about workers of lawlessness:

Mat 7:21  “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 

Mat 7:22  On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 

Mat 7:23  And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ 


Whoever pretends the law was abolished by Christ, they will see the face of anti-Christ by looking in a mirror.

2Th 2:3  Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 

2Th 2:4  who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. 
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Why is it only christians argue non stop about the meaning of their religion? Why are there like 100 different flavors? Why is the buybull edited soo many times? Hmmmm...
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Because without Jesus Christ, no one is saved. Because of this fact, the adversary who is Satan attacks Christianity the hardest hence why there are so many different sects and denominations of Christianity more so than any other religion. He doesn’t bother with Buddhists or Muslims or any other partakers of idol worship because adherents to these religions are already lost. He seeks only to corrupt the knowledge of the truth.
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And so the other 90 billion people before christ and youre buybull, and the billions of other faiths are in hell? WOW!
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Maybe not suffering hellfire as yet at this present time, depending on Bible verse, maybe still sleeping dead in the grave awaiting Jesus to return and resurrect their dead bodies for Judgment Day and then send to hell.
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So the torah changed.

As I have illustrated from the beginning.






NO...blood sacrifices. Lord has law...statutes...ordinances and judgements.
Christ became our PASSOVER LAMB.
IS.53
Christ in the Passover week became the Lamb slain for everyone, and reveals Gods love for us

.1 Corinthians 5:7
“Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:”
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Paul paid for blood sacrifices as has been stated by me three times in this thread, starting on page 3, top of page 4 while the Temple was still standing.

And Ezekiel's Temple which has never been built, the Millennium Temple, The Sacrifices will be on going throughout, Passover in Memorial, New Moons and Sabbaths with animal blood sacrifices, start reading in Chapter 44 to the end of the book if you have never done so before.

Ezekiel 45:21
In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, ye shall have the passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten.

22 And upon that day shall the prince prepare for himself and for all the people of the land a bullock for a sin offering.

There will be those at this time that are reigning and ruling with Him over those that came through the tribulation, probably those that were to young to have been held accountable for their sins, and those that will be born from them, and they will keep the Passover in Memorial, with a Blood Sacrifice

Isaiah 2:3
And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of YHWH, to the house of the God of Jacob; and He will teach us of His ways, and we will walk in His paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the Torah, and the word of YHWH from Jerusalem.

4 And He shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

YESHUA is going to rule with a rod of Iron, according to His unchangeable Torah, which He could no more abolish than He can abolish Himself

Isaiah 51:4

Hearken unto Me, My people; and give ear unto Me, O My nation: for Torah shall proceed from Me, and I will make My judgment to rest for a light of the people.

The Torah is His Nature, not just arbitrary rules that are one day an abomination and the next day they are not.

He changes not, that is the epitome of changing

It all boils down to those that refuse the way of righteousness, really do not know Him for who He really is.

The same yesterday, today and forever

The soul that sins is destroyed, it is not tortured forever, He despises the teaching of those that say that they represent Him, and believe and teach that God is going to torture forever those that are lost for the sins they committed in a finite life without them ever being destroyed.

An abomination when it comes to His Justice, profaning His Name by ascribing to Him things that are an affront to His Very Nature, and the scriptures, Anathema they are!

they sing a familiar song - you shall not surely die - ye shall not surely die la la la
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start reading in Chapter 44 to the end of the book if you have never done so before.


yes...i know those chapters very well. 3 dreams i have had all my life are in those chapters. 2 have already happened...1 to go. last time i had that dream i had my hand on door. i was scared to open door cause it was death. but ...i know what happens now when i open it so i not much scared today. round about...i went round about for years. sounds crazy but i know the time is very close now. next time i will open the door.
the door on top of the stairs from round about
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Well and dont compare yourself with others who have fun also?
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All made up horseshit..
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you sound very angry ... Jesus died on the cross for you because he loves you that much. Tuly turn to him and he will transform your life.
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So the torah changed.

As I have illustrated from the beginning.






NO...blood sacrifices. Lord has law...statutes...ordinances and judgements.
Christ became our PASSOVER LAMB.
IS.53
Christ in the Passover week became the Lamb slain for everyone, and reveals Gods love for us

.1 Corinthians 5:7
“Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85496979


Paul paid for blood sacrifices as has been stated by me three times in this thread, starting on page 3, top of page 4 while the Temple was still standing.

And Ezekiel's Temple which has never been built, the Millennium Temple, The Sacrifices will be on going throughout, Passover in Memorial, New Moons and Sabbaths with animal blood sacrifices, start reading in Chapter 44 to the end of the book if you have never done so before.

Ezekiel 45:21
In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, ye shall have the passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten.

22 And upon that day shall the prince prepare for himself and for all the people of the land a bullock for a sin offering.

There will be those at this time that are reigning and ruling with Him over those that came through the tribulation, probably those that were to young to have been held accountable for their sins, and those that will be born from them, and they will keep the Passover in Memorial, with a Blood Sacrifice

Isaiah 2:3
And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of YHWH, to the house of the God of Jacob; and He will teach us of His ways, and we will walk in His paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the Torah, and the word of YHWH from Jerusalem.

4 And He shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

YESHUA is going to rule with a rod of Iron, according to His unchangeable Torah, which He could no more abolish than He can abolish Himself

Isaiah 51:4

Hearken unto Me, My people; and give ear unto Me, O My nation: for Torah shall proceed from Me, and I will make My judgment to rest for a light of the people.

The Torah is His Nature, not just arbitrary rules that are one day an abomination and the next day they are not.

He changes not, that is the epitome of changing

It all boils down to those that refuse the way of righteousness, really do not know Him for who He really is.

The same yesterday, today and forever

The soul that sins is destroyed, it is not tortured forever, He despises the teaching of those that say that they represent Him, and believe and teach that God is going to torture forever those that are lost for the sins they committed in a finite life without them ever being destroyed.

An abomination when it comes to His Justice, profaning His Name by ascribing to Him things that are an affront to His Very Nature, and the scriptures, Anathema they are!

they sing a familiar song - you shall not surely die - ye shall not surely die la la la
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According to the Christ you are in error. Its that simple.




Matthew 12

3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;

4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?

5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?

6 But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple.

7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.


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