Are you Israel or The Body of Christ? Well?

I knew you would say that - long before you said it.

The law is moot.

All is moot!!

Everything in the past is moot.

Millenia has gone by.

Hint

God has not sent a single prophet to them for 2000 yrs.

Why not

Waste of time

So - he will create a war - where Israel has to recognize the great God of the Universe.

Then he can "reach" them - FINALLY

The gog magog war is this war.

Learn it - oh I forgot - you only want to destroy - not learn

Good luck

God will see you soon

Mat 22:36  “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 
Mat 22:37  And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 
Mat 22:38  This is the great and first commandment.  
Mat 22:39  And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 
Mat 22:40  On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.” 

Lev 19:18  Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

(hint, Leviticus 19:18 is not in the ten commandments)

Sure - try to save yourself after you realize the 10 commandments are not part of the torah.

Jesus said - far apart from torah - or ten commandments

love God with all your heart and soul - and love your neighbor

Not part of torah

Fortunately I don't need to save myself from your fake delusion. If you deny the commandments of God, then you are the lawless one.

What will happen to you if you continue on your current path? Let's ask the Bible:

2Th 2:8 And then shall that lawless one be revealed, whom the Master shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:  

Can you elaborate please?

Still here defending the Old Testament law and butchering scripture I see. Pride is one of if not the most detestable of all sins in God’s eyes and is what caused Lucifer to be cast out of Heaven.

And also, the body of Christ composes of all who believe in Christ. You’re an embarrassment to the truth.


yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.
Galatians 2:16


Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us
Galatians 3:13


all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law.
Romans 2:12

Time to come out from under the law and wake up, not doing so deems Christ’s sacrifice for you invalid in God’s eyes and therefore you will not make Heaven nor have eternal life. Your incompetence of scripture and the gospel in general is ridiculous.


For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near. For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.

Christ Our Cornerstone

Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.

Ephesians 2:14-22





Stop butchering the truth of the sacrifice that Jesus made for us all and what He alone delivered us from which is the law you ignorantly and openly cling so close to as did the Pharisees of Jesus’ day did. You profane God’s Holy Word through vain, prideful, and severe misinterpretation.

I know you will respond to this with more misinterpretation as the truth is far from you and your cup is overflowing with pride but truly, repent. You’re in grave error.

Now

Let's see

10 commandments were given separately from the "law".

It's only later they were added to the law.

Plus, the talmud completely corrupts whatever law their was

Since it is a compilation of "discussions" about what the law means.

Oh well.

All is moot

We are at the very end of times.

Torah - talmud all moot

Memorize - Matthew 24 and Revelation

Save yourself and others

PSS

Not relevant text

Lawless one is antichrist

PSSSS

You people do go all out to corrupt "word of God"

Good night

tag - team :)

Easily. Here's the ten commandments:
Exo 20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
Exo 20:3 Thou shalt have no other elohim before me.
Exo 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Exo 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous El, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exo 20:6 And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
Exo 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of Yahweh thy Elohim: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For in six days Yahweh made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore Yahweh blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Exo 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which Yahweh thy Elohim giveth thee.
Exo 20:13 Thou shalt not murder.
Exo 20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Exo 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.
Exo 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Exo 20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

And here's the second greatest commandment:
Lev 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am Yahweh.

Nobody read a wall of text these days

And how exactly is that different from what Yeshua said? (the bolded part)

Oops

Nobody reads a wall of test these days.

tried to change color to highlight, it didnt' take. Maybe look at the underlined part.

Gosh I would like to get that right

Nobody reads a wall of text these days

All old ancient verses are moot.

We are in the very last days.

Try to save people instead of confuse them

It's not different. It's also not in the ten commandments.

Neither is the great commandment:
Deu 6:5 And thou shalt love Yahweh thy Elohim with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

so what does this mean

It means what Yeshua said it means. All the Law and the prophets hang on these two commandments.

Which means all the Law and the prophets are still relevant.

Most people that dismiss the law never catch this detail because they aren't seeking the truth.

Psa 119:142 Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.

Well, then ~ I'm curious about two things. Not that I expect any answers .......

1) When I share this message, I'm accused of new ageism, hippy Jesus pushing

2) Again, why if Jesus died for all men, is it exclusive to club members only, when he chose us before the foundations of the earth, in love AND

"For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made"

THIS ^^^ says NOTHING about being a member of a club.

I agree, there's no club. He may have died for all, but not all have accepted his free gift. If we do accept it, then we meet the conditions and become heirs to the promise/spiritual descendants of a family line...as has been quoted directly from Scripture multiple times in this thread.

If we don't accept it, well those folks will be judged by their works.

Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and the grave delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

the Body of Christ is NOT Israel.

If you can nott discern the difference you are soiritually blind.


Israel rejected their Messiah.


Christ sent Paul who was the firts in the Body of Christ.



........Is this black and white enough for you?:

1 Timothy 1:15-16

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.


For those that doent understand the words "first, pattern and hereafter", use a dictionary.


Israel and the Body of Christ have:

Different plan of Salvation
Different inheritance



The cross changed EVERYTHING.

2 Corinthians 5:21

“For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”

Colossians 2:10
King James Version

10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

GENTILES NEVER EVER WERE UNDER THE LAW.

And we are still not! During the Church age NOBODY is under the Law. We are UNDER GRACE!

We are Saved by Grace alone, by Faith alone, through Christ alone


The people obsessed with the Law and the Torah reject Grace and the Body of Chris taught in Scripture.

They CAN NOT be combined. They are 2 separate doctrines.

Hogwash.

Actually Paul tells us it is the Gentiles who aren't under grace because Gentiles aren't yet part of the church, which is most definitely Israel.

When a Gentile accepts the gospel and asserts their faith in Christ, their old self dies and they convert to become a follower of Christ the King of Israel. Their citizenship changes to Israel.

There are numerous examples of how this process works throughout Scripture. If you remember the whole circumcision of the heart thing, it is not Gentiles who are circumcised...


Eph 4:17  Now this I say and testify in the Lord, that you must no longer walk as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their minds. 

Eph 4:18  They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart. 

Eph 4:19  They have become callous and have given themselves up to sensuality, greedy to practice every kind of impurity. 

Eph 4:20  But that is not the way you learned Christ!— 



1Th 4:3  For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; 

1Th 4:4  that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, 

1Th 4:5  not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God; 


If you are a follower of the true Christ then you are a citizen of Israel. There are no pearly gates for Gentiles to get into the New Jerusalem in Revelation 21. Only 12 gates for those who are citizens of the 12 tribes of Israel.


Rev 14:12  Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.

This right here is a perfect reason not to engage this person anymore as the truth is far from them and they’re pridefully obstinate and rooted in their ignorance. Pitiful.

You can keep on believing those lies, or you can believe in the truth which Yeshua Messiah spoke himself.

Mat 15:24  He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”