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Are you Israel or The Body of Christ? Well?

 
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In the last days
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Notice after their own lusts.

I seek to obey the law, while you seek after your own lust to abolish it.

Rom_2:13  For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified.
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Mock

I said we are at the end of the world

Let's save people - not harm them

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Lining up with bible prophecy
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many cult leaders said the exact same thing during the world wars and after.

so how is it different this time? did you try a new flavor of koolaid?

Ecc_1:9  What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun.
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...
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Just like Jesus said to the pharisees

You know when summer is near

But you know not who I am

You don't know you scripture

We are in the last days

---2 Peter 3

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
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Worth repeating

God hides his face from Israel (Isa 1) until the Eze 38 war-where he miraculously protects them from a sneak attack-& will know I am their God

In Isaiah 1 HE tells them their iniquity and disobedience has reached the point where he no longer wants anything to do with them

He compares them to sodom, saying In the last days Isa 9 ...they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not

Isa 1:15 He hides his face from them - telling them he will no longer answer their prayers -they have blood on their hands.

Isa 1:12 - He asks "who told you to do these things?"

14 ...Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

BUT - It's after the gog magog war, he no longer hides his face and will write a new covenant on their hearts.
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Worth repeating

God hides his face from Israel (Isa 1) until the Eze 38 war-where he miraculously protects them from a sneak attack-& will know I am their God

In Isaiah 1 HE tells them their iniquity and disobedience has reached the point where he no longer wants anything to do with them

He compares them to sodom, saying In the last days Isa 9 ...they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not

Isa 1:15 He hides his face from them - telling them he will no longer answer their prayers -they have blood on their hands.

Isa 1:12 - He asks "who told you to do these things?"

14 ...Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

BUT - It's after the gog magog war, he no longer hides his face and will write a new covenant on their hearts.
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Here's summary gog magog

Start with God wants this war

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Ezekiel 38

And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,

3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws
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Invariably someone posts that the gog of the gog magog war in Rev 20 - is the same as the one in Ezekiel 38-39.

Here's a thread I did on it:

Gog, magog war - Rev 20, devoured with fire-no burial; Gog Ezekiel 38-39, took 7 months to bury mutilated bodies.

----

Additionally, All nations were involved in Rev 20, but only 7 nations listed in Ezekiel 38.
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Lining up with bible prophecy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78923277


many cult leaders said the exact same thing during the world wars and after.

so how is it different this time? did you try a new flavor of koolaid?

Ecc_1:9  What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith



...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78923277


Just like Jesus said to the pharisees

You know when summer is near

But you know not who I am

You don't know you scripture

We are in the last days

---2 Peter 3

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
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Since you believe the law is dead, perhaps you are looking for the lawless one to come?

2Th 2:9  The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, 

2Th 2:10  and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 

2Th 2:11  Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, 

2Th 2:12  in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 
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Invariably someone posts that the gog of the gog magog war in Rev 20 - is the same as the one in Ezekiel 38-39.

Here's a thread I did on it:

Gog, magog war - Rev 20, devoured with fire-no burial; Gog Ezekiel 38-39, took 7 months to bury mutilated bodies.

----

Additionally, All nations were involved in Rev 20, but only 7 nations listed in Ezekiel 38.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78923277


This war will probably be the shortest one ever.

Even shorter than 6 day war.

God immediately sets about destroying them - before they reach the main land of Israel.

Most all of them 'fall' upon the mountains.

What's interesting though is - the enemy will leave enough fuel from their weapons that would last 7 years for cooking, heating etc.

More...how God destroys them - and more on pg 136
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Invariably someone posts that the gog of the gog magog war in Rev 20 - is the same as the one in Ezekiel 38-39.

Here's a thread I did on it:

Gog, magog war - Rev 20, devoured with fire-no burial; Gog Ezekiel 38-39, took 7 months to bury mutilated bodies.

----

Additionally, All nations were involved in Rev 20, but only 7 nations listed in Ezekiel 38.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78923277


This war will probably be the shortest one ever.

Even shorter than 6 day war.

God immediately sets about destroying them - before they reach the main land of Israel.

Most all of them 'fall' upon the mountains.

What's interesting though is - the enemy will leave enough fuel from their weapons that would last 7 years for cooking, heating etc.

More...how God destroys them - and more on pg 136
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78923277


ahhh
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How do we know the ac shows up after gog magog war?

Here's the sequence - gog magog war - antichrist stands in temple - great tribulation starts - Daniel 8:23

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Daniel 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom (Ezekiel 38:8), when the transgressors are come to the full (Eze 39), a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. (in temple to declare he is greater than god: 2Thess2:4)

gog magog war:

Ezekiel 38:8 ... in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword

The transgressors:

Ezekiel 39:23 because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies

God forgives them:

Ezekiel 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the Lord their God

29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them

The AC stands in holy place - then the great trib starts:

Matthew 24:5 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Invariably someone posts that the gog of the gog magog war in Rev 20 - is the same as the one in Ezekiel 38-39.

Here's a thread I did on it:

Gog, magog war - Rev 20, devoured with fire-no burial; Gog Ezekiel 38-39, took 7 months to bury mutilated bodies.

----

Additionally, All nations were involved in Rev 20, but only 7 nations listed in Ezekiel 38.
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How do we know the ac shows up after gog magog war?

Here's the sequence - gog magog war - antichrist stands in temple - great tribulation starts - Daniel 8:23

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---

Daniel 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom (Ezekiel 38:8), when the transgressors are come to the full (Eze 39), a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. (in temple to declare he is greater than god: 2Thess2:4)

gog magog war:

Ezekiel 38:8 ... in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword

The transgressors:

Ezekiel 39:23 because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies

God forgives them:

Ezekiel 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the Lord their God

29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them

The AC stands in holy place - then the great trib starts:

Matthew 24:5 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Invariably someone posts that the gog of the gog magog war in Rev 20 - is the same as the one in Ezekiel 38-39.

Here's a thread I did on it:

Gog, magog war - Rev 20, devoured with fire-no burial; Gog Ezekiel 38-39, took 7 months to bury mutilated bodies.

----

Additionally, All nations were involved in Rev 20, but only 7 nations listed in Ezekiel 38.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78923277

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78923277


The gog magog war ends with God destroying all the attackers in Ezekiel 38 & 39 - not one person survives.

Ez 38

How?

God causes mass confusion to ensue:

21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord God: every man's sword shall be against his brother.

22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the Lord.

Ezekiel 39

Supernaturally:

3 And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand.

4 Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured.

5 Thou shalt fall upon the open field: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord God.

----

They never get past the mountains of Israel
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Invariably someone posts that the gog of the gog magog war in Rev 20 - is the same as the one in Ezekiel 38-39.

Here's a thread I did on it:

Gog, magog war - Rev 20, devoured with fire-no burial; Gog Ezekiel 38-39, took 7 months to bury mutilated bodies.

----

Additionally, All nations were involved in Rev 20, but only 7 nations listed in Ezekiel 38.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78923277


This war will probably be the shortest one ever.

Even shorter than 6 day war.

God immediately sets about destroying them - before they reach the main land of Israel.

Most all of them 'fall' upon the mountains.

What's interesting though is - the enemy will leave enough fuel from their weapons that would last 7 years for cooking, heating etc.

More...how God destroys them - and more on pg 136
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ahhh
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Mat 7:15  “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 

Mat 7:16  You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 
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How do we know the ac shows up after gog magog war?

Here's the sequence - gog magog war - antichrist stands in temple - great tribulation starts - Daniel 8:23

[link to www.godlike.com (secure)]

---

Daniel 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom (Ezekiel 38:8), when the transgressors are come to the full (Eze 39), a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. (in temple to declare he is greater than god: 2Thess2:4)

gog magog war:

Ezekiel 38:8 ... in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword

The transgressors:

Ezekiel 39:23 because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies

God forgives them:

Ezekiel 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the Lord their God

29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them

The AC stands in holy place - then the great trib starts:

Matthew 24:5 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Invariably someone posts that the gog of the gog magog war in Rev 20 - is the same as the one in Ezekiel 38-39.

Here's a thread I did on it:

Gog, magog war - Rev 20, devoured with fire-no burial; Gog Ezekiel 38-39, took 7 months to bury mutilated bodies.

----

Additionally, All nations were involved in Rev 20, but only 7 nations listed in Ezekiel 38.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78923277

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78923277


The gog magog war ends with God destroying all the attackers in Ezekiel 38 & 39 - not one person survives.

Ez 38

How?

God causes mass confusion to ensue:

21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord God: every man's sword shall be against his brother.

22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the Lord.

Ezekiel 39

Supernaturally:

3 And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand.

4 Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured.

5 Thou shalt fall upon the open field: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord God.

----

They never get past the mountains of Israel
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It's of no small significance that after the gog magog war - he will bring the 2 kingdoms of Israel (Ephraim & Judah) back together.

----

Why did the two kingdoms of Israel split?

As prophesied by Ahijah (1 Kings 11:31-35), the whole house of Israel was divided into two kingdoms. This division, which took place approximately 975 B.C., after the death of Solomon and during the reign of his son, Rehoboam, came about as the people revolted against heavy taxes levied by Solomon and Rehoboam

----

Ezekiel 39

25 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;

Isaiah 11

13 Also the envy of Ephraim shall depart, And the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off; Ephraim shall not envy Judah, And Judah shall not harass Ephraim.
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many cult leaders said the exact same thing during the world wars and after.

so how is it different this time? did you try a new flavor of koolaid?

Ecc_1:9  What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith



...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78923277


Just like Jesus said to the pharisees

You know when summer is near

But you know not who I am

You don't know you scripture

We are in the last days

---2 Peter 3

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78923277


Since you believe the law is dead, perhaps you are looking for the lawless one to come?

2Th 2:9  The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, 

2Th 2:10  and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 

2Th 2:11  Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, 

2Th 2:12  in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 
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Just like you - isn't it

We know the lawless one comes to defile the temple of God

He sits in the temple and declares he is greater than God.

So I ask you

How could you confuse this with the gog magog war

Where God supernaturally protect them

They recognize God as the Great God of the universe

And he forgives them
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How do we know the ac shows up after gog magog war?

Here's the sequence - gog magog war - antichrist stands in temple - great tribulation starts - Daniel 8:23

[link to www.godlike.com (secure)]

---

Daniel 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom (Ezekiel 38:8), when the transgressors are come to the full (Eze 39), a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. (in temple to declare he is greater than god: 2Thess2:4)

gog magog war:

Ezekiel 38:8 ... in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword

The transgressors:

Ezekiel 39:23 because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies

God forgives them:

Ezekiel 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the Lord their God

29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them

The AC stands in holy place - then the great trib starts:

Matthew 24:5 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Invariably someone posts that the gog of the gog magog war in Rev 20 - is the same as the one in Ezekiel 38-39.

Here's a thread I did on it:

Gog, magog war - Rev 20, devoured with fire-no burial; Gog Ezekiel 38-39, took 7 months to bury mutilated bodies.

----

Additionally, All nations were involved in Rev 20, but only 7 nations listed in Ezekiel 38.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78923277

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78923277


The gog magog war ends with God destroying all the attackers in Ezekiel 38 & 39 - not one person survives.

Ez 38

How?

God causes mass confusion to ensue:

21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord God: every man's sword shall be against his brother.

22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the Lord.

Ezekiel 39

Supernaturally:

3 And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand.

4 Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured.

5 Thou shalt fall upon the open field: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord God.

----

They never get past the mountains of Israel
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78923277


It's of no small significance that after the gog magog war - he will bring the 2 kingdoms of Israel (Ephraim & Judah) back together.

----

Why did the two kingdoms of Israel split?

As prophesied by Ahijah (1 Kings 11:31-35), the whole house of Israel was divided into two kingdoms. This division, which took place approximately 975 B.C., after the death of Solomon and during the reign of his son, Rehoboam, came about as the people revolted against heavy taxes levied by Solomon and Rehoboam

----

Ezekiel 39

25 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;

Isaiah 11

13 Also the envy of Ephraim shall depart, And the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off; Ephraim shall not envy Judah, And Judah shall not harass Ephraim.
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Well over a thousand years away...

Rev 20:7  And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison 

Rev 20:8  and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. 
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I am neither, I do not believe in the Holy Babble, cave man book of scribbles, I do not believe that anyone survives death, I do not believe in Jesus or Israel.

Religion is demonic darkness of superstitious minds.

Just because you believe you can survive death, does not mean you will, it just means you are batshit mentally ill.
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How do we know the ac shows up after gog magog war?

Here's the sequence - gog magog war - antichrist stands in temple - great tribulation starts - Daniel 8:23

[link to www.godlike.com (secure)]

---

Daniel 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom (Ezekiel 38:8), when the transgressors are come to the full (Eze 39), a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. (in temple to declare he is greater than god: 2Thess2:4)

gog magog war:

Ezekiel 38:8 ... in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword

The transgressors:

Ezekiel 39:23 because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies

God forgives them:

Ezekiel 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the Lord their God

29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them

The AC stands in holy place - then the great trib starts:

Matthew 24:5 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be....

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78923277


The gog magog war ends with God destroying all the attackers in Ezekiel 38 & 39 - not one person survives.

Ez 38

How?

God causes mass confusion to ensue:

21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord God: every man's sword shall be against his brother.

22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the Lord.

Ezekiel 39

Supernaturally:

3 And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand.

4 Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured.

5 Thou shalt fall upon the open field: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord God.

----

They never get past the mountains of Israel
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78923277


It's of no small significance that after the gog magog war - he will bring the 2 kingdoms of Israel (Ephraim & Judah) back together.

----

Why did the two kingdoms of Israel split?

As prophesied by Ahijah (1 Kings 11:31-35), the whole house of Israel was divided into two kingdoms. This division, which took place approximately 975 B.C., after the death of Solomon and during the reign of his son, Rehoboam, came about as the people revolted against heavy taxes levied by Solomon and Rehoboam

----

Ezekiel 39

25 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;

Isaiah 11

13 Also the envy of Ephraim shall depart, And the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off; Ephraim shall not envy Judah, And Judah shall not harass Ephraim.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78923277

Well over a thousand years away...

Rev 20:7  And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison 

Rev 20:8  and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. 

 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


Gog magog of Eze 39 - takes 7 months to bury

Gog of Rev 20 - fire comes down from heaven and kills them

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Here's the sequence - gog magog war - antichrist stands in temple - great tribulation starts - Daniel 8:23
Daniel 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom (Ezekiel 38), when the transgressors are come to the full (Eze 39), a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. (in temple to declare he is greater than god: 2Thess2:4)

gog magog war:

Ezekiel 38:8 ... in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword

The trangressors:

Ezekiel 39:23 because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies

God forgives them:

Ezekiel 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the Lord their God

29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them

The AC stands in holy place - then the great trib starts:

Matthew 24:5 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
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God will forgive

Read joel 2

You need it

Good night
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God will forgive

Read joel 2

You need it

Good night
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And you need to read Exodus 12 to get ready for next week.
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Is Israel and the Body of Christ the same?


Q - What is Israels inheritancs?

A - The earth. That promise is fufilled in the Milenial Reign of Christ

Genesis 17:3
Mathew 5:5


Q - Who was Paul talking about when He said our inheritance is in heaven?

A - The Body of Christ, who are people that get saved after Paul did until the "fullness of the Gentiles"


Philippians 3:20 NKJV

20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also
eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,



Q - There were already 12 Apostles. Why did Jesus send Paul?

A - For the f
irst time God offered a plan of Salvation to the Gentiles and Paul was sent to be Apostle to the Gentiles.

Romans 1:13,
Eph 3:8


Q - What does 1 Tim 1:15,16 mean?

A- Paul is first in the Body of Christ as is every one after him hat believes on Christ.
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the Body of Christ is NOT Israel.

If you can nott discern the difference you are soiritually blind.


Israel rejected their Messiah.


Christ sent Paul who was the firts in the Body of Christ.



........Is this black and white enough for you?:

1 Timothy 1:15-16

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.


For those that doent understand the words "first, pattern and hereafter", use a dictionary.


Israel and the Body of Christ have:

Different plan of Salvation
Different inheritance



The cross changed EVERYTHING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83039129

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83039129



To say the cross did not change everything is to spit on Jesus and the cross.
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the Body of Christ is NOT Israel.

If you can nott discern the difference you are soiritually blind.


Israel rejected their Messiah.


Christ sent Paul who was the firts in the Body of Christ.



........Is this black and white enough for you?:

1 Timothy 1:15-16

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.


For those that doent understand the words "first, pattern and hereafter", use a dictionary.


Israel and the Body of Christ have:

Different plan of Salvation
Different inheritance



The cross changed EVERYTHING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83039129

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83039129



To say the cross did not change everything is to spit on Jesus and the cross.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83084333

Hogwash.

The cross was already part of His plan.

Deu 21:22  “And if a man has committed a crime punishable by death and he is put to death, and you hang him on a tree, 

Deu 21:23  his body shall not remain all night on the tree, but you shall bury him the same day, for a hanged man is cursed by God. You shall not defile your land that the LORD your God is giving you for an inheritance. 


That's because God does not change.

Mal_3:6  “For I the LORD do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, are not consumed.
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Is Israel and the Body of Christ the same?


Q - What is Israels inheritancs?

A - The earth. That promise is fufilled in the Milenial Reign of Christ

Genesis 17:3
Mathew 5:5


Q - Who was Paul talking about when He said our inheritance is in heaven?

A - The Body of Christ, who are people that get saved after Paul did until the "fullness of the Gentiles"


Philippians 3:20 NKJV

20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also
eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,



Q - There were already 12 Apostles. Why did Jesus send Paul?

A - For the f
irst time God offered a plan of Salvation to the Gentiles and Paul was sent to be Apostle to the Gentiles.

Romans 1:13,
Eph 3:8


Q - What does 1 Tim 1:15,16 mean?

A- Paul is first in the Body of Christ as is every one after him hat believes on Christ.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83084333

Israel inherits the New Earth.

Rev 21:1  Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. 

Rev 21:2  And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 


That's why our citizenship is in Heaven, that's where Christ is preparing a place for us...in the New Jerusalem that comes down from Heaven.

This does not change the fact that ISRAEL IS THE CHURCH!

Mat_15:24  He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
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Is Israel and the Body of Christ the same?


Q - What is Israels inheritancs?

A - The earth. That promise is fufilled in the Milenial Reign of Christ

Genesis 17:3
Mathew 5:5


Q - Who was Paul talking about when He said our inheritance is in heaven?

A - The Body of Christ, who are people that get saved after Paul did until the "fullness of the Gentiles"


Philippians 3:20 NKJV

20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also
eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,



Q - There were already 12 Apostles. Why did Jesus send Paul?

A - For the f
irst time God offered a plan of Salvation to the Gentiles and Paul was sent to be Apostle to the Gentiles.

Romans 1:13,
Eph 3:8


Q - What does 1 Tim 1:15,16 mean?

A- Paul is first in the Body of Christ as is every one after him hat believes on Christ.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83084333

Israel inherits the New Earth.

Rev 21:1  Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. 

Rev 21:2  And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 


That's why our citizenship is in Heaven, that's where Christ is preparing a place for us...in the New Jerusalem that comes down from Heaven.

This does not change the fact that ISRAEL IS THE CHURCH!

Mat_15:24  He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith



smh
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Is Israel and the Body of Christ the same?


Q - What is Israels inheritancs?

A - The earth. That promise is fufilled in the Milenial Reign of Christ

Genesis 17:3
Mathew 5:5


Q - Who was Paul talking about when He said our inheritance is in heaven?

A - The Body of Christ, who are people that get saved after Paul did until the "fullness of the Gentiles"


Philippians 3:20 NKJV

20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also
eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,



Q - There were already 12 Apostles. Why did Jesus send Paul?

A - For the f
irst time God offered a plan of Salvation to the Gentiles and Paul was sent to be Apostle to the Gentiles.

Romans 1:13,
Eph 3:8


Q - What does 1 Tim 1:15,16 mean?

A- Paul is first in the Body of Christ as is every one after him hat believes on Christ.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83084333

Israel inherits the New Earth.

Rev 21:1  Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. 

Rev 21:2  And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 


That's why our citizenship is in Heaven, that's where Christ is preparing a place for us...in the New Jerusalem that comes down from Heaven.

This does not change the fact that ISRAEL IS THE CHURCH!

Mat_15:24  He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith



smh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83069528


Act 24:14  But this I confess to you, that according to the Way, which they call a sect, I worship the God of our fathers, believing everything laid down by the Law and written in the Prophets

Act 24:15  having a hope in God, which these men themselves accept, that there will be a resurrection of both the just and the unjust. 


A sect of what? Many self proclaimed Christians twist the teachings of Paul so that they might reject everything laid down by the Law and the Prophets. They prefer to believe in a mythical rapture instead of the biblical resurrection. But that is not the gospel. The Bible clearly tells us the same thing over and over again:

Mat 19:17  And he said to him, “Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. If you would enter life, keep the commandments.

1Jn 2:4  Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him,

1Jn 5:3  For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.

Rev 14:12  Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus. 

Mat 7:21  “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 

Mat 7:22  On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 

Mat 7:23  And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ 
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Is Israel and the Body of Christ the same?


Q - What is Israels inheritancs?

A - The earth. That promise is fufilled in the Milenial Reign of Christ

Genesis 17:3
Mathew 5:5


Q - Who was Paul talking about when He said our inheritance is in heaven?

A - The Body of Christ, who are people that get saved after Paul did until the "fullness of the Gentiles"


Philippians 3:20 NKJV

20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also
eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,



Q - There were already 12 Apostles. Why did Jesus send Paul?

A - For the f
irst time God offered a plan of Salvation to the Gentiles and Paul was sent to be Apostle to the Gentiles.

Romans 1:13,
Eph 3:8


Q - What does 1 Tim 1:15,16 mean?

A- Paul is first in the Body of Christ as is every one after him hat believes on Christ.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83084333

Israel inherits the New Earth.

Rev 21:1  Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. 

Rev 21:2  And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 


That's why our citizenship is in Heaven, that's where Christ is preparing a place for us...in the New Jerusalem that comes down from Heaven.

This does not change the fact that ISRAEL IS THE CHURCH!

Mat_15:24  He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


you can keep your prison planet. I and many others, are moving on.
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Is Israel and the Body of Christ the same?


Q - What is Israels inheritancs?

A - The earth. That promise is fufilled in the Milenial Reign of Christ

Genesis 17:3
Mathew 5:5


Q - Who was Paul talking about when He said our inheritance is in heaven?

A - The Body of Christ, who are people that get saved after Paul did until the "fullness of the Gentiles"


Philippians 3:20 NKJV

20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also
eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,



Q - There were already 12 Apostles. Why did Jesus send Paul?

A - For the f
irst time God offered a plan of Salvation to the Gentiles and Paul was sent to be Apostle to the Gentiles.

Romans 1:13,
Eph 3:8


Q - What does 1 Tim 1:15,16 mean?

A- Paul is first in the Body of Christ as is every one after him hat believes on Christ.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83084333

Israel inherits the New Earth.

Rev 21:1  Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. 

Rev 21:2  And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 


That's why our citizenship is in Heaven, that's where Christ is preparing a place for us...in the New Jerusalem that comes down from Heaven.

This does not change the fact that ISRAEL IS THE CHURCH!

Mat_15:24  He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


you can keep your prison planet. I and many others, are moving on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80376576


Joh_3:13  No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.

Christ offers eternal life on the new earth, not an alien abduction to a place the Bible never says any human will go. Time to stop watching TV and read your Bible.

Rev 21:1  Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. 

Rev 21:2  And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 
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Even Paul knew Israel and the church are the same thing. Yet another example of him telling us to observe the Torah.

1 Corinthians 5:7-8

Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even the Messiah our Passover is sacrificed for us:

Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
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