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Are you Israel or The Body of Christ? Well?

 
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The difference between Israel of the flesh and Israel of His Spirit is clear. Throughout scripture.

The satanic masoretic rapture futurist dispensationalism jesuit papist doctrines are lies.

OP is deeply decived
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Its the Demon! Figured you show up sooner or later FHLC.

Your REPLACEMENT Theology is a lie.
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Salvation is by Grace alone, through Faith alone in Christ alone. And NOTHING ELSE! Try to add ANYTHING to that to get saved or STAY saved and you will NEVER be saved.
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Salvation is by Grace alone, through Faith alone in Christ alone. And NOTHING ELSE! Try to add ANYTHING to that to get saved or STAY saved and you will NEVER be saved.
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100% true.

But... it’s not a one shot deal, we are to do our best to walk like Yahshua walked after we receive this amazing gift!


Matthew 24:13
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
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Salvation is by Grace alone, through Faith alone in Christ alone. And NOTHING ELSE! Try to add ANYTHING to that to get saved or STAY saved and you will NEVER be saved.
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100% true.

But... it’s not a one shot deal, we are to do our best to walk like Yahshua walked after we receive this amazing gift!


Matthew 24:13
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
 Quoting: -Kate-


Jesus was no talking to the Body of Christ. They did not exist yet.


This is precisly what mixing doctrine is.

The Body of Christ is COMPLETE in HIM. With Chris Imputed Righteousness. Jesus does 100% of the Saving and Keeping Saved.

We are SEALED unto the day of Redemption. We are already Judged and Justified. PERIOD.



Endure til he End is for the TRIB - back under the Law.
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1 Cor 15: 1-4 DONE DEAL.
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Tribulation

Times of the Gentiles is PASSED.
Salvation Thru Grace alone has PASSED.
The Body of Christ is no longer on he earth.

Christ focus is back on Israel and the LAW.
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Right Division will 100% clarify so many biblical questions in the Bible.

Stop combining Israel doctrine with The Body of Christ Doctrine.

Each has a separate plan for Salvation and a different inheritance.

One is saved by Grace, one is not.

One is Pre-trib rapture on is Post-trib rapture

One inherits Heaven, one inherits Earth.




Paul was the first in the Body of Christ. EVERYONE who comes after is too until the "times of the Gentiles" ends.


1 Tim 1: 15, 16


15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a patternto them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.



So are you Israel or the Body of Christ?

Well?


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worse.

the Cabal-ist
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Right Division will 100% clarify so many biblical questions in the Bible.

Stop combining Israel doctrine with The Body of Christ Doctrine.

Each has a separate plan for Salvation and a different inheritance.

One is saved by Grace, one is not.

One is Pre-trib rapture on is Post-trib rapture

One inherits Heaven, one inherits Earth.

Paul was the first in the Body of Christ. EVERYONE who comes after is too until the "times of the Gentiles" ends.

So are you Israel or the Body of Christ?

Well?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85505913


"For there is no difference between the Ewe and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him."


"Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference"


"And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith."
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Your thread OP, I’ve contributed what I know to be true from my studies.

GOD bless you.
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Your thread OP, I’ve contributed what I know to be true from my studies.

GOD bless you.
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Final thought Kate -

Ephesians 2:8,9

If anything that can be boasted about ....(i repented more, i repented faster, i endured more, I was more faithful, i did my part to stay saved)... then it has absoluteley nothing to with your Salvation.

this is the very foundation of our Salvation. 100% Jesus or nothing.
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Your thread OP, I’ve contributed what I know to be true from my studies.

GOD bless you.
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Final thought Kate -

Ephesians 2:8,9

If anything that can be boasted about ....(i repented more, i repented faster, i endured more, I was more faithful, i did my part to stay saved)... then it has absoluteley nothing to with your Salvation.

this is the very foundation of our Salvation. 100% Jesus or nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85505913


you raging buttholes shaking for satan and not the chirst are like the men in sodom and gomorrah.


way the light and the truth is the trinity mystery of christ


go troll the establishment jesus is already.
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Your thread OP, I’ve contributed what I know to be true from my studies.

GOD bless you.
 Quoting: -Kate-




Final thought Kate -

Ephesians 2:8,9

If anything that can be boasted about ....(i repented more, i repented faster, i endured more, I was more faithful, i did my part to stay saved)... then it has absoluteley nothing to with your Salvation.

this is the very foundation of our Salvation. 100% Jesus or nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85505913


you raging buttholes shaking for satan and not the chirst are like the men in sodom and gomorrah.


way the light and the truth is the trinity mystery of christ


go troll the establishment jesus is already.
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Wow! dude just said the scripture is a lie!


Sucks to be you!
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Your thread OP, I’ve contributed what I know to be true from my studies.

GOD bless you.
 Quoting: -Kate-




Final thought Kate -

Ephesians 2:8,9

If anything that can be boasted about ....(i repented more, i repented faster, i endured more, I was more faithful, i did my part to stay saved)... then it has absoluteley nothing to with your Salvation.

this is the very foundation of our Salvation. 100% Jesus or nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85505913


you raging buttholes shaking for satan and not the chirst are like the men in sodom and gomorrah.


way the light and the truth is the trinity mystery of christ


go troll the establishment jesus is already.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85135245




Wow! dude just said the scripture is a lie!


Sucks to be you!
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no to brag i have them burned to my tongue so that's a false statement my echo. don't cast sin towards others as stumbling blocks.

I'm hereafter waiting for you people.
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Right Division will 100% clarify so many biblical questions in the Bible.

Stop combining Israel doctrine with The Body of Christ Doctrine.

Each has a separate plan for Salvation and a different inheritance.

One is saved by Grace, one is not.

One is Pre-trib rapture on is Post-trib rapture

One inherits Heaven, one inherits Earth.




Paul was the first in the Body of Christ. EVERYONE who comes after is too until the "times of the Gentiles" ends.


1 Tim 1: 15, 16


15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a patternto them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.



So are you Israel or the Body of Christ?

Well?


.


.


.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85505913



Everyone is saved the same way and there is only one Body and one Spirit. You are dividing the body of Christ. You are wrongly dividing the word of God.

Act 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Yehudim or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.


Isa 14:1 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.

Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
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Right Division will 100% clarify so many biblical questions in the Bible.

Stop combining Israel doctrine with The Body of Christ Doctrine.

Each has a separate plan for Salvation and a different inheritance.

One is saved by Grace, one is not.

One is Pre-trib rapture on is Post-trib rapture

One inherits Heaven, one inherits Earth.




Paul was the first in the Body of Christ. EVERYONE who comes after is too until the "times of the Gentiles" ends.


1 Tim 1: 15, 16


15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a patternto them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.



So are you Israel or the Body of Christ?

Well?


.


.


.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85505913



Everyone is saved the same way and there is only one Body and one Spirit. You are dividing the body of Christ. You are wrongly dividing the word of God.

Act 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Yehudim or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.


Isa 14:1 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.

Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
 Quoting: Achduke7



Read Pauls Epistles. They are for the Body of Christ. He is our Apostle.

I will not debate with. I will say after 30 years in the Word of God, he only way the New Testament makes sence is dividing the Body of Christ from Israel.


Are you saved by Grace alone or under the Law? That is the most basic division. Its up to you to pray about it and study the Word.

You will know when you see it.

Do you even know why the Gentiles can even be saved?
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Why did Jesus even send Paul?

The cross changed EVERYTHING.
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When did the Body of Christ begin?


What are the "times of the Gentiles?



you just have to ask the right questions.
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Right Division will 100% clarify so many biblical questions in the Bible.

Stop combining Israel doctrine with The Body of Christ Doctrine.

Each has a separate plan for Salvation and a different inheritance.

One is saved by Grace, one is not.

One is Pre-trib rapture on is Post-trib rapture

One inherits Heaven, one inherits Earth.




Paul was the first in the Body of Christ. EVERYONE who comes after is too until the "times of the Gentiles" ends.


1 Tim 1: 15, 16


15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a patternto them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.



So are you Israel or the Body of Christ?

Well?


.


.


.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85505913



Everyone is saved the same way and there is only one Body and one Spirit. You are dividing the body of Christ. You are wrongly dividing the word of God.

Act 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Yehudim or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.


Isa 14:1 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.

Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
 Quoting: Achduke7



Read Pauls Epistles. They are for the Body of Christ. He is our Apostle.

I will not debate with. I will say after 30 years in the Word of God, he only way the New Testament makes sence is dividing the Body of Christ from Israel.


Are you saved by Grace alone or under the Law? That is the most basic division. Its up to you to pray about it and study the Word.

You will know when you see it.

Do you even know why the Gentiles can even be saved?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85505913


There is no being saved by the law. Everyone is saved the same way.

Israel was never cast away. Only unbelieving Yehudim were cast away.

The body of Christ is everyone saved. It is not divided as you make it out to be.

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Right Division will 100% clarify so many biblical questions in the Bible.

Stop combining Israel doctrine with The Body of Christ Doctrine.

Each has a separate plan for Salvation and a different inheritance.

One is saved by Grace, one is not.

One is Pre-trib rapture on is Post-trib rapture

One inherits Heaven, one inherits Earth.




Paul was the first in the Body of Christ. EVERYONE who comes after is too until the "times of the Gentiles" ends.


1 Tim 1: 15, 16


15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a patternto them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.



So are you Israel or the Body of Christ?

Well?


.


.


.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85505913



Everyone is saved the same way and there is only one Body and one Spirit. You are dividing the body of Christ. You are wrongly dividing the word of God.

Act 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Yehudim or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.


Isa 14:1 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.

Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
 Quoting: Achduke7



Read Pauls Epistles. They are for the Body of Christ. He is our Apostle.

I will not debate with. I will say after 30 years in the Word of God, he only way the New Testament makes sence is dividing the Body of Christ from Israel.


Are you saved by Grace alone or under the Law? That is the most basic division. Its up to you to pray about it and study the Word.

You will know when you see it.

Do you even know why the Gentiles can even be saved?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85505913


There is no being saved by the law. Everyone is saved the same way.

Israel was never cast away. Only unbelieving Yehudim were cast away.

The body of Christ is everyone saved. It is not divided as you make it out to be.
 Quoting: Achduke7







Why did Jesus send Paul?

When exactly did the Body of Christ begin?

What are the "times of the gentiles"?

*If "everybody is saved the same way*, why did Jesus even have to die on the cross?

Did you know the gentiles were considered DIRT and could not even be saved unless they converted to Israel and lived with Israel before Christ?

Jesus Himself said He only came for the Lost Sheep

There was no plan of Salvaion for the Gentiles before Paul....


Please...read your bible. I believe you are being genuine but you are way way behind the curve.

Honestly answer these questions for yourself and see where it leads. Do you just want to be right or are you a truth seeker?
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Christ said to become the body of the Father ...
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Everyone is saved the same way and there is only one Body and one Spirit. You are dividing the body of Christ. You are wrongly dividing the word of God.

Act 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Yehudim or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.


Isa 14:1 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.

Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
 Quoting: Achduke7



Read Pauls Epistles. They are for the Body of Christ. He is our Apostle.

I will not debate with. I will say after 30 years in the Word of God, he only way the New Testament makes sence is dividing the Body of Christ from Israel.


Are you saved by Grace alone or under the Law? That is the most basic division. Its up to you to pray about it and study the Word.

You will know when you see it.

Do you even know why the Gentiles can even be saved?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85505913


There is no being saved by the law. Everyone is saved the same way.

Israel was never cast away. Only unbelieving Yehudim were cast away.

The body of Christ is everyone saved. It is not divided as you make it out to be.
 Quoting: Achduke7







Why did Jesus send Paul?

When exactly did the Body of Christ begin?

What are the "times of the gentiles"?

*If "everybody is saved the same way*, why did Jesus even have to die on the cross?

Did you know the gentiles were considered DIRT and could not even be saved unless they converted to Israel and lived with Israel before Christ?

Jesus Himself said He only came for the Lost Sheep

There was no plan of Salvaion for the Gentiles before Paul....


Please...read your bible. I believe you are being genuine but you are way way behind the curve.

Honestly answer these questions for yourself and see where it leads. Do you just want to be right or are you a truth seeker?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83431882












Achduke - Can you FOLLOW this? Please comment.


Israel plan for Salvation Put on hold, Gentiles plan for Salvation begins


Romans 11:25

“For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.”



Salvation offered to Gentiles to provoke Israel to jealousy


Romans 11:11 - 13

11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:


Paul 1st in Body of Christ, is our pattern (can it be any clearer?)

1 Tim 1:15, 16

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.




Who did Jesus come for?

Matthew 15:24

24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.


Old Testament Salvation (not by grace alone)


Ezekiel 3:20

“Again, when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and I place an obstacle before him, he will die; since you have not warned him, he shall die in his sin, and his righteous deeds which he has done shall not be remembered; but his blood I will require at your hand.”


The "fullness of the Gentiles" is the window of opportunity for Gentiles to be saved by grace alone. It end when the Trib begins. *That is why there is a pretrib Rapture!*

The Trib is speciically for Israel (Danieel 9:24-27)!

When the Trib begins, Israels plan for Salvation and the Law is back in effect. NO MORE Grace alone.
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Just like the Children of Israel were in Exile in Egypt, they still kept the Feasts and Laws the best the could outside of the Holy Land.

They fled Egypt on Passover in haste before their bread had time to rise, that’s why unleavened bread is a memorial today.

They had no Temple, or Altar, so they kept the Feasts the best they could without those. It’s the same way today, even in the land of Israel because there is no Temple, or Priests, nothing, and won’t be until Yahshua sets up His Kingdom on His return.

You would know all this if you read GOD’S WORD!
 Quoting: -Kate-

“I hate, I despise your feast days,
And I do not savor your sacred assemblies.
Though you offer Me burnt offerings and your grain offerings,
I will not accept them,
Nor will I regard your fattened peace offerings.
Take away from Me the noise of your songs,
For I will not hear the melody of your stringed instruments.
But let justice run down like water,
And righteousness like a mighty stream.
“Did you offer Me sacrifices and offerings
In the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel?
You also carried Sikkuth your king
And Chiun, your idols,
The star of your gods,
Which you made for yourselves.
Therefore I will send you into captivity beyond Damascus,”
Says the Lord, whose name is the God of hosts.

Amos 5:21-27





Time to wake up Kate. The Rapture can happen at any moment, we’re not just in the season but the last second. Do not be left behind.
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That’s exactly what I shared about the golden calf, He’s speaking to the House of Israel in the Wilderness after He brought them out of Egypt. He destroyed them for doing the Feasts in their own way!

It says “YOUR FEASTS”. Believe me, GOD sees Christmas and Easter the same way.
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Right Division will 100% clarify so many biblical questions in the Bible.

Stop combining Israel doctrine with The Body of Christ Doctrine.

Each has a separate plan for Salvation and a different inheritance.

One is saved by Grace, one is not.

One is Pre-trib rapture on is Post-trib rapture

One inherits Heaven, one inherits Earth.




Paul was the first in the Body of Christ. EVERYONE who comes after is too until the "times of the Gentiles" ends.


1 Tim 1: 15, 16


15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a patternto them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.



So are you Israel or the Body of Christ?

Well?


.


.

Up river?
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Well if I am the body then I am really pissed about the members getting together and taking shots that I didn’t authorize but members being what they are individual cells being what they are my buddy death trying to take over the place I had to dispatch my WHITE blood cells to spread a little can of whoop ass on any cancer turn black cells calling in Kurt cobain himself to eat my cancer when it turns black
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Luke who wrote the book of Acts and the Gospel of Luke

Recorded that it was false witnesses that taught that Paul did not keep the Torah after being saved.

Acts 6:13

And set up false witnesses, which said, This man ceaseth not to speak blasphemous words against this holy place, and the Torah:

In order to prove that he walked orderly and kept the Torah, Paul purified himself and helped pay for the animal sacrifices that were required to end the Nazarite vow that four men had made until they found out if Paul kept the Torah or Not.

Acts 21:24
Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the Torah

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Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.


Christians in general are false witnesses, teaching that Paul taught against keeping the Torah

They are the unlearned that Peter warned about, False Witnesses that twist Paul as they do all the Scriptures

And are in danger of hearing

Depart from me I never knew you workers Anomia

Anomia = Without Torah

They were never in the New Covenant, which is the Torah upon hearts and minds of flesh, that His People would keep it.
Hebrews 8:10, Ezekiel 11:19-20
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Everyone is saved the same way and there is only one Body and one Spirit. You are dividing the body of Christ. You are wrongly dividing the word of God.

Act 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Yehudim or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.


Isa 14:1 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.

Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
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Read Pauls Epistles. They are for the Body of Christ. He is our Apostle.

I will not debate with. I will say after 30 years in the Word of God, he only way the New Testament makes sence is dividing the Body of Christ from Israel.


Are you saved by Grace alone or under the Law? That is the most basic division. Its up to you to pray about it and study the Word.

You will know when you see it.

Do you even know why the Gentiles can even be saved?
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There is no being saved by the law. Everyone is saved the same way.

Israel was never cast away. Only unbelieving Yehudim were cast away.

The body of Christ is everyone saved. It is not divided as you make it out to be.
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Why did Jesus send Paul?

When exactly did the Body of Christ begin?

What are the "times of the gentiles"?

*If "everybody is saved the same way*, why did Jesus even have to die on the cross?

Did you know the gentiles were considered DIRT and could not even be saved unless they converted to Israel and lived with Israel before Christ?

Jesus Himself said He only came for the Lost Sheep

There was no plan of Salvaion for the Gentiles before Paul....


Please...read your bible. I believe you are being genuine but you are way way behind the curve.

Honestly answer these questions for yourself and see where it leads. Do you just want to be right or are you a truth seeker?
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Act 9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:





Mar 14:22 And as they did eat, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and brake [it], and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body.

Act 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.




Act 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.




Now for your question on being saved.

It has always been grace and faith in God and his plan.

Also there was always a plan for gentiles. They joined Israel and learned God's way. Not the way if Pharisees but God's way.


Gal 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
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Read Pauls Epistles. They are for the Body of Christ. He is our Apostle.

I will not debate with. I will say after 30 years in the Word of God, he only way the New Testament makes sence is dividing the Body of Christ from Israel.


Are you saved by Grace alone or under the Law? That is the most basic division. Its up to you to pray about it and study the Word.

You will know when you see it.

Do you even know why the Gentiles can even be saved?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85505913


There is no being saved by the law. Everyone is saved the same way.

Israel was never cast away. Only unbelieving Yehudim were cast away.

The body of Christ is everyone saved. It is not divided as you make it out to be.
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Why did Jesus send Paul?

When exactly did the Body of Christ begin?

What are the "times of the gentiles"?

*If "everybody is saved the same way*, why did Jesus even have to die on the cross?

Did you know the gentiles were considered DIRT and could not even be saved unless they converted to Israel and lived with Israel before Christ?

Jesus Himself said He only came for the Lost Sheep

There was no plan of Salvaion for the Gentiles before Paul....


Please...read your bible. I believe you are being genuine but you are way way behind the curve.

Honestly answer these questions for yourself and see where it leads. Do you just want to be right or are you a truth seeker?
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Achduke - Can you FOLLOW this? Please comment.


Israel plan for Salvation Put on hold, Gentiles plan for Salvation begins


Romans 11:25

“For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.”



Salvation offered to Gentiles to provoke Israel to jealousy


Romans 11:11 - 13

11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:


Paul 1st in Body of Christ, is our pattern (can it be any clearer?)

1 Tim 1:15, 16

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.




Who did Jesus come for?

Matthew 15:24

24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.


Old Testament Salvation (not by grace alone)


Ezekiel 3:20

“Again, when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and I place an obstacle before him, he will die; since you have not warned him, he shall die in his sin, and his righteous deeds which he has done shall not be remembered; but his blood I will require at your hand.”


The "fullness of the Gentiles" is the window of opportunity for Gentiles to be saved by grace alone. It end when the Trib begins. *That is why there is a pretrib Rapture!*

The Trib is speciically for Israel (Danieel 9:24-27)!

When the Trib begins, Israels plan for Salvation and the Law is back in effect. NO MORE Grace alone.
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To Romans 11:25 what are the gentiles coming into? Answer Israel, they are coming into one body. Being grafted into one root.

Do you know who the lost house of Israel are?

Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
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It says “YOUR FEASTS”. Believe me, GOD sees Christmas and Easter the same way.





right on sister KATE....

"YOUR" feast days He hates!
Jer.10 Jer.7 and 44

"HIS" feast days we keep them forever.

i love how you read EVERY word...one word can change the whole meaning.

blessings to all!
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Both are dead ends.
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Grace lasts until Jesus gets here.

“And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.”

And don’t forget about the 144,000 not defiled babies that Herod sent home.


King James Bible
Thus saith the LORD; Refrain thy voice from weeping, and thine eyes from tears: for thy work shall be rewarded, saith the LORD; and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.

Jeremiah 31:15


“Thus saith the LORD; A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation, and bitter weeping; Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children, because they were not.”

King James Version (K

First fruits of the new covenant.
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Jeremiah 30:7


“Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.”





GLP