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Are you Israel or The Body of Christ? Well?

 
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BTW the True Sabbath is based on a lunar calendar so it does not fall on the same day each week. It changes based on the new moon.

So you saying you keep the Sabbath?

You have no idea how lost you are.
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The sabbath is a Person, Jesus of Nazareth. God rested when His Son said, "It is finished."

Since then we have been laboring to enter God's rest.

It's difficult cuz it takes EVERYTHING out of our hands.

Grace is offensive to the flesh.

Jesus came and fulfilled the law....ALL OF IT!!! Jesus FULLY SATISFIED GOD IN REGARDS TO THE LAW FOR ALL!!! NO need to

Either you believe that and enter into rest....

or you don't and are under a curse....

... "cursed is everyone who doesn't continue to do everything prescribed in the book of the law..." Gal3:10
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Why did Jesus send Paul?

When exactly did the Body of Christ begin?

What are the "times of the gentiles"?



>>>>>>>



*If "everybody is saved the same way*, why did Jesus even have to die on the cross?

Did you know the gentiles were considered DIRT and could not even be saved unless they converted to Israel and lived with Israel before Christ?

Jesus Himself said He only came for the Lost Sheep

There was no plan of Salvation for the Gentiles before Paul....



Israel plan for Salvation Put on hold, Gentiles plan for Salvation begins


Romans 11:25

“For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.”



Salvation offered to Gentiles to provoke Israel to jealousy


Romans 11:11 - 13

11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:


Paul 1st in Body of Christ, is our pattern (can it be any clearer?)

1 Tim 1:15, 16

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.




Who did Jesus come for?

Matthew 15:24

24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.


Old Testament Salvation (not by grace alone)


Ezekiel 3:20

“Again, when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and I place an obstacle before him, he will die; since you have not warned him, he shall die in his sin, and his righteous deeds he which he has done shall not be remembered; but his blood I will require at your hand.”


The "fullness of the Gentiles" is the window of opportunity for Gentiles to be saved by grace alone. It end when the Trib begins. *That is why there is a pretrib Rapture!*

The Trib is speciically for Israel (Danieel 9:24-27)!

When the Trib begins, Israels plan for Salvation and the Law is back in effect. NO MORE Grace alone.

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These headings are delusional. Where does the Bible say a plan for salvation is put on hold? Oh wait...it doesn't say that. Time to come out of Egypt and repent my friend.
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Israel plan for Salvation Put on hold, Gentiles plan for Salvation begins


Romans 11:25

“For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.”



Are you blind in your own conceit??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85514381

apparently you are

"blindness" and "on hold" are not even close to the same meaning...
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


are you ignorant of the Mystery?
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HOW TO BE SAVED


One Gospel was For Israel BEFORE the Body of Christ.

One Gospel for the Body of Christ AFTER Paul


ACTS 2:8

8 Peter replied, “Each of you must repent of your sins and turn to God, and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins.


OR


Ephesians 1:13-14

In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.


Which one are you saved by?


Are you Israel or the Body of Christ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85514381


They are the same. The first is the process of being saved. The second is the reason why they were saved.

The letter to the Ephesians is to those that are already saved.

Eph 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:

Most or all of Paul's letter were to those who are already saved. Do you think most unsaved people are referred to as saints or brethren?
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On point! The heretical dispensationalist doctrine seeks to keep Marcion alive and the church divided against itself.

As Peter warned, they twist the words of Paul to their own destruction.
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These headings are delusional. Where does the Bible say a plan for salvation is put on hold? Oh wait...it doesn't say that. Time to come out of Egypt and repent my friend.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith




Israel plan for Salvation Put on hold, Gentiles plan for Salvation begins


Romans 11:25

“For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.”



Are you blind in your own conceit??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85514381

apparently you are

"blindness" and "on hold" are not even close to the same meaning...
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


are you ignorant of the Mystery?
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COOHMP
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No. Just to clarify, nothing you have presented is biblical.

Gal 3:28 There is neither J-e-w nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in the Messiah Yahshua.

Gal 3:29 And if ye be the Messiah's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

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Everything I’ve just presented is 100% Biblical. Glad you clarified that unbelievers in Christ are not a part of His body and that was the only point I was trying to make. The scripture you keep posting doesn’t pertain to the OP’s original question though.

I agree, we are all one in the body who believe in Christ whether J-e-w or Greek and what makes us one in Christ is belief in Jesus, it doesn’t matter if you’re female or male or your background. This was not the OP’s question though because Israel as a whole denies Christ hence the confusion. Both Israel and the body therefore are separate from one another until those of Israel turn to Christ and then and only then are they of the body of Christ which is one body made up of believers in Jesus.



Right Division will 100% clarify so many biblical questions in the Bible.

Stop combining Israel doctrine with The Body of Christ Doctrine.

Each has a separate plan for Salvation and a different inheritance.

One is saved by Grace, one is not.

One is Pre-trib rapture on is Post-trib rapture

One inherits Heaven, one inherits Earth.




Paul was the first in the Body of Christ. EVERYONE who comes after is too until the "times of the Gentiles" ends.


1 Tim 1: 15, 16


15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a patternto them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.



So are you Israel or the Body of Christ?

Well?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85505913

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82265444

False. You are confusing J(e)ws with Hebrews. They are not the same.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith

Then one who had escaped came and told Abram the Hebrew, for he dwelt by the terebinth trees of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol and brother of Aner; and they were allies with Abram.
Genesis 14:13
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Present-day Israel is at war with God because they do not believe upon His own Son Jesus Christ who He sent for them for their salvation. Israel is already under the wrath of God.




the 10 northern tribes of jacob left that land 750 yrs before Messiah came...many of 2 southern tribes stayed

it was never called country of israel til 1948...north was Samaria and south was called j(u)dea.

the blood of israel really not know who they are today...just like Lord said would happen. it is a scattered people.

i do watch jerusalem as this is the barometer ....satan will sit on LORDS holy mountain 2hess2

paul was blood of jacob...he was from tribe of benjamin...same tribe as king saul
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There were already 12 Apostles.

Why did Jesus send the Apostle Paul?

What and When is the "Fulness of the Gentiles"?


hf
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BTW the True Sabbath is based on a lunar calendar so it does not fall on the same day each week. It changes based on the new moon.

So you saying you keep the Sabbath?

You have no idea how lost you are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83069765


The sabbath is a Person, Jesus of Nazareth. God rested when His Son said, "It is finished."

Since then we have been laboring to enter God's rest.

It's difficult cuz it takes EVERYTHING out of our hands.

Grace is offensive to the flesh.

Jesus came and fulfilled the law....ALL OF IT!!! Jesus FULLY SATISFIED GOD IN REGARDS TO THE LAW FOR ALL!!! NO need to

Either you believe that and enter into rest....

or you don't and are under a curse....

... "cursed is everyone who doesn't continue to do everything prescribed in the book of the law..." Gal3:10
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BANG.

SPOT ON.

As Tony the Tiger would say:

GRRRRRRRREAT Post
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first time shoe used in bible 2 kings 16.

some call moses a shoe. ex.2 he tribe of levi

marys mother was elizabeths cousin...their mothers were sisters and offspring of aaron thru elezar the high priest...a levite luke 1

johns father zacharias was a levite too. Only a priest could serve a course. not all levites were priests but all priests were levites.

mays father Heli...came thru same tribe of david


this make Christ king of kings lord of LORDS a high priest forever after the order of Melchizedek
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So you saying you keep the Sabbath?


7673. shabath ►
Strong's Concordance
shabath: to
Original Word: שָׁבַת
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: shabath
Phonetic Spelling: (shaw-bath')
Definition: to cease, desist, rest


it is rest. you have no rest if you not have the Lord.

HE not day of the week to me...everyday i need HIM for rest and peace. O.T. saturday would have been holy...everyday is holy
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There were already 12 Apostles.

Why did Jesus send the Apostle Paul?

What and When is the "Fulness of the Gentiles"?


hf
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No. Just to clarify, nothing you have presented is biblical.

Gal 3:28 There is neither J-e-w nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in the Messiah Yahshua.

Gal 3:29 And if ye be the Messiah's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

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Everything I’ve just presented is 100% Biblical. Glad you clarified that unbelievers in Christ are not a part of His body and that was the only point I was trying to make. The scripture you keep posting doesn’t pertain to the OP’s original question though.

I agree, we are all one in the body who believe in Christ whether J-e-w or Greek and what makes us one in Christ is belief in Jesus, it doesn’t matter if you’re female or male or your background. This was not the OP’s question though because Israel as a whole denies Christ hence the confusion. Both Israel and the body therefore are separate from one another until those of Israel turn to Christ and then and only then are they of the body of Christ which is one body made up of believers in Jesus.



Right Division will 100% clarify so many biblical questions in the Bible.

Stop combining Israel doctrine with The Body of Christ Doctrine.

Each has a separate plan for Salvation and a different inheritance.

One is saved by Grace, one is not.

One is Pre-trib rapture on is Post-trib rapture

One inherits Heaven, one inherits Earth.




Paul was the first in the Body of Christ. EVERYONE who comes after is too until the "times of the Gentiles" ends.


1 Tim 1: 15, 16


15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a patternto them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.



So are you Israel or the Body of Christ?

Well?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85505913

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82265444

False. You are confusing J(e)ws with Hebrews. They are not the same.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith

Then one who had escaped came and told Abram the Hebrew, for he dwelt by the terebinth trees of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol and brother of Aner; and they were allies with Abram.
Genesis 14:13
 Quoting: Seek^


Yes exactly. All J(e)ws are Hebrews but not all Hebrews are J(e)ws.
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These headings are delusional. Where does the Bible say a plan for salvation is put on hold? Oh wait...it doesn't say that. Time to come out of Egypt and repent my friend.
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Israel plan for Salvation Put on hold, Gentiles plan for Salvation begins


Romans 11:25

“For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.”



Are you blind in your own conceit??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85514381

apparently you are

"blindness" and "on hold" are not even close to the same meaning...
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


are you ignorant of the Mystery?
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What exactly did you think the fullness of the Gentiles was coming into? Did you ever consider that since Paul starts the statement with Israel, that maybe he is talking about Israel?

Your lack of reading comprehension is definitely not a mystery here...
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Israel plan for Salvation Put on hold, Gentiles plan for Salvation begins


Romans 11:25

“For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.”



Are you blind in your own conceit??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85514381

apparently you are

"blindness" and "on hold" are not even close to the same meaning...
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


are you ignorant of the Mystery?
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What exactly did you think the fullness of the Gentiles was coming into? Did you ever consider that since Paul starts the statement with Israel, that maybe he is talking about Israel?

Your lack of reading comprehension is definitely not a mystery here...
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


It starts here.

Gen 48:19 And his father refused, and said, I know [it], my son, I know [it]: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.
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Acts 11:26

King James Version

26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

1 Timothy 1:4

King James Version

4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
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apparently you are

"blindness" and "on hold" are not even close to the same meaning...
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are you ignorant of the Mystery?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85514381


What exactly did you think the fullness of the Gentiles was coming into? Did you ever consider that since Paul starts the statement with Israel, that maybe he is talking about Israel?

Your lack of reading comprehension is definitely not a mystery here...
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


It starts here.

Gen 48:19 And his father refused, and said, I know [it], my son, I know [it]: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.
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go on...
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apparently you are

"blindness" and "on hold" are not even close to the same meaning...
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are you ignorant of the Mystery?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85514381


What exactly did you think the fullness of the Gentiles was coming into? Did you ever consider that since Paul starts the statement with Israel, that maybe he is talking about Israel?

Your lack of reading comprehension is definitely not a mystery here...
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It starts here.

Gen 48:19 And his father refused, and said, I know [it], my son, I know [it]: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Yes and brings us full circle to the same passage in Galatians that I and others have posted at least thrice now...

Those in the body of Christ are Abraham's seed, heirs to the promise. Abraham was a Hebrew, so those in Christ become Hebrews.
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are you ignorant of the Mystery?
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What exactly did you think the fullness of the Gentiles was coming into? Did you ever consider that since Paul starts the statement with Israel, that maybe he is talking about Israel?

Your lack of reading comprehension is definitely not a mystery here...
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


It starts here.

Gen 48:19 And his father refused, and said, I know [it], my son, I know [it]: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Yes and brings us full circle to the same passage in Galatians that I and others have posted at least thrice now...

Those in the body of Christ are Abraham's seed, heirs to the promise. Abraham was a Hebrew, so those in Christ become Hebrews.
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thrice? lol.

you still dont get even if its in Black and white, crystal clear and in your eye. pride.
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The Fulness of the Gentiles.....
..... is when the last gentile is Saved before the Tribulation.
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What exactly did you think the fullness of the Gentiles was coming into? Did you ever consider that since Paul starts the statement with Israel, that maybe he is talking about Israel?

Your lack of reading comprehension is definitely not a mystery here...
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


It starts here.

Gen 48:19 And his father refused, and said, I know [it], my son, I know [it]: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Yes and brings us full circle to the same passage in Galatians that I and others have posted at least thrice now...

Those in the body of Christ are Abraham's seed, heirs to the promise. Abraham was a Hebrew, so those in Christ become Hebrews.
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thrice? lol.

you still dont get even if its in Black and white, crystal clear and in your eye. pride.
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If you actually read the Bible, you would be familiar with the word thrice.

Matthew 26:34 KJV - Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.
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HOW TO BE SAVED


One Gospel was For Israel BEFORE the Body of Christ.

One Gospel for the Body of Christ AFTER Paul


ACTS 2:8

8 Peter replied, “Each of you must repent of your sins and turn to God, and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins.


OR


Ephesians 1:13-14

In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.


Which one are you saved by?


Are you Israel or the Body of Christ?
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They are the same. The first is the process of being saved. The second is the reason why they were saved.

The letter to the Ephesians is to those that are already saved.

Eph 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:

Most or all of Paul's letter were to those who are already saved. Do you think most unsaved people are referred to as saints or brethren?
 Quoting: Achduke7


On point! The heretical dispensationalist doctrine seeks to keep Marcion alive and the church divided against itself.

As Peter warned, they twist the words of Paul to their own destruction.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


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are you ignorant of the Mystery?
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What exactly did you think the fullness of the Gentiles was coming into? Did you ever consider that since Paul starts the statement with Israel, that maybe he is talking about Israel?

Your lack of reading comprehension is definitely not a mystery here...
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It starts here.

Gen 48:19 And his father refused, and said, I know [it], my son, I know [it]: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Yes and brings us full circle to the same passage in Galatians that I and others have posted at least thrice now...

Those in the body of Christ are Abraham's seed, heirs to the promise. Abraham was a Hebrew, so those in Christ become Hebrews.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


Spiritual Israel is superior to flesh Israel till the time of regrafting occurs. Soon IMO
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are you ignorant of the Mystery?
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What exactly did you think the fullness of the Gentiles was coming into? Did you ever consider that since Paul starts the statement with Israel, that maybe he is talking about Israel?

Your lack of reading comprehension is definitely not a mystery here...
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It starts here.

Gen 48:19 And his father refused, and said, I know [it], my son, I know [it]: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.
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go on...
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Well the next part of the story starts with Solomon and the mysterious 11:11 in 1Kings 11:11. Also see Isaiah 11:11, Romans 11:11 and maybe later on Hosea 11:11, Ezekiel 11:11 and Revelation 11:11.

1Ki 11:11 Wherefore the LORD said unto Solomon, Forasmuch as this is done of thee, and thou hast not kept my covenant and my statutes, which I have commanded thee, I will surely rend the kingdom from thee, and will give it to thy servant.
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The Fulness of the Gentiles.....
..... is when the last gentile is Saved before the Tribulation.
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Jesus says: “If you love Me, keep My commandments … He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me … If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.” John 14:15-24.

1 John 2:15
Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

1 John 2:15-17
Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride of life—is not from the Father but is from the world. And the world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God abides forever.
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Right Division will 100% clarify so many biblical questions in the Bible.

Stop combining Israel doctrine with The Body of Christ Doctrine.

Each has a separate plan for Salvation and a different inheritance.

One is saved by Grace, one is not.

One is Pre-trib rapture on is Post-trib rapture

One inherits Heaven, one inherits Earth.




Paul was the first in the Body of Christ. EVERYONE who comes after is too until the "times of the Gentiles" ends.


1 Tim 1: 15, 16


15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a patternto them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.



So are you Israel or the Body of Christ?

Well?


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I wonder why people don’t let this sink in?

What is Sin? Transgression of the Law.

Heb-rews 10:26-31

26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
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I’ve managed to avoid both as well as many other god claims. It’s pretty simple,grow up.
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BTW the True Sabbath is based on a lunar calendar so it does not fall on the same day each week. It changes based on the new moon.

So you saying you keep the Sabbath?

You have no idea how lost you are.
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The sabbath is a Person, Jesus of Nazareth. God rested when His Son said, "It is finished."

Since then we have been laboring to enter God's rest.

It's difficult cuz it takes EVERYTHING out of our hands.

Grace is offensive to the flesh.

Jesus came and fulfilled the law....ALL OF IT!!! Jesus FULLY SATISFIED GOD IN REGARDS TO THE LAW FOR ALL!!! NO need to

Either you believe that and enter into rest....

or you don't and are under a curse....

... "cursed is everyone who doesn't continue to do everything prescribed in the book of the law..." Gal3:10
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Grace is a free gift, meaning that we don't have to do anything for it. However, notice Paul said you are only cursed if you don't continue to do everything prescribed in the book of the law. That means if you are truly grateful for your gift, and you have truly repented, and have truly become a new creature, then you become obedient to the book of the law.


Deu 11:26 Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse;

Deu 11:27 A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day:

Deu 11:28 And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.


Rom 3:31 Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law.
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I'm the (coming) Whore of Babylon who gets (very) drunk on the blood of the saints by the late 20's.

Here is My Holy Book that describes how it all goes down:

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Should be essential reading; as being who I am; I have a little more insight on the situation...

See y'all down the road apiece...
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