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Are you Israel or The Body of Christ? Well?

 
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When Gentiles accept Jesus they are converted over to Israel. They are grafted in.

Acts 15:3  So, being sent on their way by the church, they passed through both Phoenicia and Samaria, describing in detail the conversion of the Gentiles, and brought great joy to all the brothers. 


Rom 11:22  Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God's kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off. 

Rom 11:23  And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. 

Rom 11:24  For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree. 
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GENTILES NEVER EVER WERE UNDER THE LAW.

And we are still not! During the Church age NOBODY is under the Law. We are UNDER GRACE!

We are Saved by Grace alone, by Faith alone, through Christ alone


The people obsessed with the Law and the Torah reject Grace and the Body of Chris taught in Scripture.

They CAN NOT be combined. They are 2 separate doctrines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85536198

Hogwash.

Actually Paul tells us it is the Gentiles who aren't under grace because Gentiles aren't yet part of the church, which is most definitely Israel.

When a Gentile accepts the gospel and asserts their faith in Christ, their old self dies and they convert to become a follower of Christ the King of Israel. Their citizenship changes to Israel.

There are numerous examples of how this process works throughout Scripture. If you remember the whole circumcision of the heart thing, it is not Gentiles who are circumcisedd...


Eph 4:17  Now this I say and testify in the Lord, that you must no longer walk as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their minds. 

Eph 4:18  They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart. 

Eph 4:19  They have become callous and have given themselves up to sensuality, greedy to practice every kind of impurity. 

Eph 4:20  But that is not the way you learned Christ!— 



1Th 4:3  For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; 

1Th 4:4  that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, 

1Th 4:5  not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God; 



If you are a follower of the true Christ then you are a citizen of Israel. There are no pearly gates for Gentiles to get into the New Jerusalem in Revelation 21. Only 12 gates for those who are citizens of the 12 tribes of Israel.


Rev 14:12  Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith

This right here is a perfect reason not to engage this person anymore as the truth is far from them and they’re pridefully obstinate and rooted in their ignorance. Pitiful.
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You can keep on believing those lies, or you can believe in the truth which Yeshua Messiah spoke himself.

Mat 15:24  He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” 
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Rom 11:25  Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

Until the fullness of the Gentiles comes into Israel.
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Yeah you guys just keep on mixing and combining Israels doctrine with the Body of Christ and you will remain confused.



...Yes Jesus ONLY came for the Lost Sheep of Israel!...BUT HE SENT PAUL TO THE GENTILES.


If there were already 12 apostles why did He send Paul?



Yall have too much pride to even answer that question It is because you dont like the answer in the bible.


So if you can give a scriptural response to that question I would love to hear it. Else carry on with your head in your rectum.
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Who can tell me what this verse means??

1 Tim 1: 15, 16


15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.
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Yeah you guys just keep on mixing and combining Israels doctrine with the Body of Christ and you will remain confused.



...Yes Jesus ONLY came for the Lost Sheep of Israel!...BUT HE SENT PAUL TO THE GENTILES.


If there were already 12 apostles why did He send Paul?



Yall have too much pride to even answer that question It is because you dont like the answer in the bible.


So if you can give a scriptural response to that question I would love to hear it. Else carry on with your head in your rectum.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85536198

Two different doctrines you say? I only find one doctrine in the Bible, so if you are claiming there is more than one doctrine then this passage applies directly to you.

1Ti 6:3  If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, 

1Ti 6:4  he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, 

1Ti 6:5  and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain. 


Looks to me like you have many more fingers pointing back at yourself.
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When put our faith in Christ we become


...a New Creature.


And our citizenship is NOT Israel. ITS HEAVEN!



Philippians 3:20-21 NKJV

For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself.


Israel inherits the earthly Kingdom - Mth 5:5: Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

The Body of Christ inherits Heaven



Or maybe you can tell me WHAT THESE SCRIPTURES MEAN. Yes that is a challenge. Waiting.
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Yeah you guys just keep on mixing and combining Israels doctrine with the Body of Christ and you will remain confused.



...Yes Jesus ONLY came for the Lost Sheep of Israel!...BUT HE SENT PAUL TO THE GENTILES.


If there were already 12 apostles why did He send Paul?



Yall have too much pride to even answer that question It is because you dont like the answer in the bible.


So if you can give a scriptural response to that question I would love to hear it. Else carry on with your head in your rectum.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85536198

Two different doctrines you say? I only find one doctrine in the Bible, so if you are claiming there is more than one doctrine then this passage applies directly to you.

1Ti 6:3  If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, 

1Ti 6:4  he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, 

1Ti 6:5  and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain. 


Looks to me like you have many more fingers pointing back at yourself.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith



you dont even know what a Doctrine is?!


And you still did NOT answer the question.

smh
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When put our faith in Christ we become


...a New Creature.


And our citizenship is NOT Israel. ITS HEAVEN!



Philippians 3:20-21 NKJV

For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself.


Israel inherits the earthly Kingdom - Mth 5:5: Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

The Body of Christ inherits Heaven



Or maybe you can tell me WHAT THESE SCRIPTURES MEAN. Yes that is a challenge. Waiting.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85536198

The New Jerusalem comes down from ...wait for it...HEAVEN

Rev 21:2  And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 


And the gates to the New Jerusalem are named after...wait for it...Israel!

Rev 21:12  It had a great, high wall, with twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and on the gates the names of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel were inscribed— 



I'm not sure you understand what meek means either.
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So dont post a list of scriptures trying to deflect. Comment SPECIFICALLY on the Scriptures I posted.

If you can.

WHAT do they mean?!


Still waiting....
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you are making a fool of yourself...
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the Body of Christ is NOT Israel.

If you can nott discern the difference you are soiritually blind.


Israel rejected their Messiah.


Christ sent Paul who was the firts in the Body of Christ.



........Is this black and white enough for you?:

1 Timothy 1:15-16

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.


For those that doent understand the words "first, pattern and hereafter", use a dictionary.


Israel and the Body of Christ have:

Different plan of Salvation
Different inheritance



The cross changed EVERYTHING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83039129

Correct, and the poster Obedience through fruitless semantical arguing Proves divide in Faith won't touch the above because it's fact.

Israel and the body of Christ will not become ONE, rather they both will be "gathered" together as One in Christ (2 Thessalonians 2:1) and the ONLY remnant of Israel who is gathered together is believing Israel who repent and place their full faith in Jesus Christ. By turning to Jesus, this remnant will be gathered together and included into the body of Christ and this occurs during the 7-year Tribulation which is judgment and wrath on unbelieving Israel when the bride is removed and the dispensation of grace period is over (Ephesians 3:2). Anyone who doesn't have the Father rejects the Son. Both have separate roles in the Kingdom of God.


Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him
Ephesians 1:9-10



Those "which are in heaven" referenced in the above scripture is the body of Christ.

And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus,
Ephesians 2:6



Those "which are on earth" is believing Israel.


Both are gathered together as one in Christ.

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So dont post a list of scriptures trying to deflect. Comment SPECIFICALLY on the Scriptures I posted.

If you can.

WHAT do they mean?!


Still waiting....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85536198


Your list doesn't prove what you are trying to say because they don't even remotely say what you are trying to say.

My list of Scriptures didn't deflect, they added some badly needed context to your list.
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When put our faith in Christ we become


...a New Creature.


And our citizenship is NOT Israel. ITS HEAVEN!



Philippians 3:20-21 NKJV

For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself.


Israel inherits the earthly Kingdom - Mth 5:5: Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

The Body of Christ inherits Heaven



Or maybe you can tell me WHAT THESE SCRIPTURES MEAN. Yes that is a challenge. Waiting.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85536198

The New Jerusalem comes down from ...wait for it...HEAVEN

Rev 21:2  And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 


And the gates to the New Jerusalem are named after...wait for it...Israel!

Rev 21:12  It had a great, high wall, with twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and on the gates the names of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel were inscribed— 



I'm not sure you understand what meek means either.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


what does "meek" mean?
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the Body of Christ is NOT Israel.

If you can nott discern the difference you are soiritually blind.


Israel rejected their Messiah.


Christ sent Paul who was the firts in the Body of Christ.



........Is this black and white enough for you?:

1 Timothy 1:15-16

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.


For those that doent understand the words "first, pattern and hereafter", use a dictionary.


Israel and the Body of Christ have:

Different plan of Salvation
Different inheritance



The cross changed EVERYTHING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83039129

Correct, and the poster Obedience through fruitless semantical arguing Proves divide in Faith won't touch the above because it's fact.

Israel and the body of Christ will not become ONE, rather they both will be "gathered" together as One in Christ (2 Thessalonians 2:1) and the ONLY remnant of Israel who is gathered together is believing Israel who repent and place their full faith in Jesus Christ. By turning to Jesus, this remnant will be gathered together and included into the body of Christ and this occurs during the 7-year Tribulation which is judgment and wrath on unbelieving Israel when the bride is removed and the dispensation of grace period is over (Ephesians 3:2). Anyone who doesn't have the Father rejects the Son. Both have separate roles in the Kingdom of God.


Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him
Ephesians 1:9-10
 Quoting: Seek^

False.

Mat 15:24  He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” 
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When put our faith in Christ we become


...a New Creature.


And our citizenship is NOT Israel. ITS HEAVEN!



Philippians 3:20-21 NKJV

For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself.


Israel inherits the earthly Kingdom - Mth 5:5: Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

The Body of Christ inherits Heaven



Or maybe you can tell me WHAT THESE SCRIPTURES MEAN. Yes that is a challenge. Waiting.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85536198

The New Jerusalem comes down from ...wait for it...HEAVEN

Rev 21:2  And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 


And the gates to the New Jerusalem are named after...wait for it...Israel!

Rev 21:12  It had a great, high wall, with twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and on the gates the names of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel were inscribed— 



I'm not sure you understand what meek means either.
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what does "meek" mean?
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I'm sure you have access to a dictionary, but I highly doubt you ever use it.
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When put our faith in Christ we become


...a New Creature.


And our citizenship is NOT Israel. ITS HEAVEN!



Philippians 3:20-21 NKJV

For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself.


Israel inherits the earthly Kingdom - Mth 5:5: Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

The Body of Christ inherits Heaven



Or maybe you can tell me WHAT THESE SCRIPTURES MEAN. Yes that is a challenge. Waiting.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85536198

The New Jerusalem comes down from ...wait for it...HEAVEN

Rev 21:2  And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 


And the gates to the New Jerusalem are named after...wait for it...Israel!

Rev 21:12  It had a great, high wall, with twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and on the gates the names of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel were inscribed— 



I'm not sure you understand what meek means either.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


what does "meek" mean?
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I'm sure you have access to a dictionary, but I highly doubt you ever use it.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith

Condescending tone, dismiss sound scripture proving you wrong for 22 pages, insult after insult thrown at people proving you wrong and trying to correct your error, endless sarcastic remarks.

What's clearly evident and obvious is there is absolutely zero truth in you, none and your pride has completely blinded you to the Word of God. Good luck. Repent immediately.
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So dont post a list of scriptures trying to deflect. Comment SPECIFICALLY on the Scriptures I posted.

If you can.

WHAT do they mean?!


Still waiting....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85536198


Your list doesn't prove what you are trying to say because they don't even remotely say what you are trying to say.

My list of Scriptures didn't deflect, they added some badly needed context to your list.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith




You are to big of a COWARD to tell me what the Scriptures I post mean, lol.

And for the upteenth time:

YES CHRIST ONLY CAME FOR THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL!
YES CHRIST ONLY CAME FOR THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL!
YES CHRIST ONLY CAME FOR THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL!
YES CHRIST ONLY CAME FOR THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL!

we all agree on that but.....

Why did He send PAUL?
Why did He send PAUL?
Why did He send PAUL?


PLEASE ANSWER.. WAITING.
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The New Jerusalem comes down from ...wait for it...HEAVEN

Rev 21:2  And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 


And the gates to the New Jerusalem are named after...wait for it...Israel!

Rev 21:12  It had a great, high wall, with twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and on the gates the names of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel were inscribed— 



I'm not sure you understand what meek means either.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


what does "meek" mean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85491384

I'm sure you have access to a dictionary, but I highly doubt you ever use it.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith

Condescending tone, dismiss sound scripture proving you wrong for 22 pages, insult after insult thrown at people proving you wrong and trying to correct your error, endless sarcastic remarks.

What's clearly evident and obvious is there is absolutely zero truth in you, none and your pride has completely blinded you to the Word of God. Good luck. Repent immediately.
 Quoting: Seek^



Did you just run away with your tale between your legs?!


COMMENT SPECIFICALLY on the verses I posted. What do they mean?!
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I'm not sure you understand what meek means either.
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what does "meek" mean?

I'm sure you have access to a dictionary, but I highly doubt you ever use it.


What's YOUR understanding of what it means when Y'suah says "blessed are the meek"

What is YOUR understanding of what he was saying. Not looking for Webster's definition.
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what does "meek" mean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85491384

I'm sure you have access to a dictionary, but I highly doubt you ever use it.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith

Condescending tone, dismiss sound scripture proving you wrong for 22 pages, insult after insult thrown at people proving you wrong and trying to correct your error, endless sarcastic remarks.

What's clearly evident and obvious is there is absolutely zero truth in you, none and your pride has completely blinded you to the Word of God. Good luck. Repent immediately.
 Quoting: Seek^



Did you just run away with your tale between your legs?!


COMMENT SPECIFICALLY on the verses I posted. What do they mean?!
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Think you misquoted me and instead asking Obedience to fruitless semantical arguing Proves divide in Faith.
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I'm sure you have access to a dictionary, but I highly doubt you ever use it.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith

Condescending tone, dismiss sound scripture proving you wrong for 22 pages, insult after insult thrown at people proving you wrong and trying to correct your error, endless sarcastic remarks.

What's clearly evident and obvious is there is absolutely zero truth in you, none and your pride has completely blinded you to the Word of God. Good luck. Repent immediately.
 Quoting: Seek^



Did you just run away with your tale between your legs?!


COMMENT SPECIFICALLY on the verses I posted. What do they mean?!
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Think you misquoted me and instead asking Obedience to fruitless semantical arguing Proves divide in Faith.
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quote feature is messing up again
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I'm sure you have access to a dictionary, but I highly doubt you ever use it.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith

Condescending tone, dismiss sound scripture proving you wrong for 22 pages, insult after insult thrown at people proving you wrong and trying to correct your error, endless sarcastic remarks.

What's clearly evident and obvious is there is absolutely zero truth in you, none and your pride has completely blinded you to the Word of God. Good luck. Repent immediately.
 Quoting: Seek^



Did you just run away with your tale between your legs?!


COMMENT SPECIFICALLY on the verses I posted. What do they mean?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85536198

Think you misquoted me and instead asking Obedience to fruitless semantical arguing Proves divide in Faith.
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Im sorry my friend. your post are solid.
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Hay "obediences proves faith"


Did you just run away with your tale between your legs?!


COMMENT SPECIFICALLY on the verses I posted. What do they mean?!
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the Body of Christ is NOT Israel.

If you can nott discern the difference you are soiritually blind.


Israel rejected their Messiah.


Christ sent Paul who was the firts in the Body of Christ.



........Is this black and white enough for you?:

1 Timothy 1:15-16

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.


For those that doent understand the words "first, pattern and hereafter", use a dictionary.


Israel and the Body of Christ have:

Different plan of Salvation
Different inheritance



The cross changed EVERYTHING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83039129

Correct, and the poster Obedience through fruitless semantical arguing Proves divide in Faith won't touch the above because it's fact.

Israel and the body of Christ will not become ONE, rather they both will be "gathered" together as One in Christ (2 Thessalonians 2:1) and the ONLY remnant of Israel who is gathered together is believing Israel who repent and place their full faith in Jesus Christ. By turning to Jesus, this remnant will be gathered together and included into the body of Christ and this occurs during the 7-year Tribulation which is judgment and wrath on unbelieving Israel when the bride is removed and the dispensation of grace period is over (Ephesians 3:2). Anyone who doesn't have the Father rejects the Son. Both have separate roles in the Kingdom of God.


Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him
Ephesians 1:9-10
 Quoting: Seek^

False.

Mat 15:24  He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” 
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


You are to big of a COWARD to tell me what the Scriptures I post mean, lol.

And for the upteenth time:

YES CHRIST ONLY CAME FOR THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL!
YES CHRIST ONLY CAME FOR THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL!
YES CHRIST ONLY CAME FOR THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL!
YES CHRIST ONLY CAME FOR THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL!

we all agree on that but.....

Why did He send PAUL?
Why did He send PAUL?
Why did He send PAUL?


PLEASE ANSWER.. WAITING.
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Hello, Hello "Obedience_Proves_Faith" what happened? No more walls of text?
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the Body of Christ is NOT Israel.

If you can nott discern the difference you are soiritually blind.


Israel rejected their Messiah.


Christ sent Paul who was the firts in the Body of Christ.



........Is this black and white enough for you?:

1 Timothy 1:15-16

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.


For those that doent understand the words "first, pattern and hereafter", use a dictionary.


Israel and the Body of Christ have:

Different plan of Salvation
Different inheritance



The cross changed EVERYTHING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83039129

Correct, and the poster Obedience through fruitless semantical arguing Proves divide in Faith won't touch the above because it's fact.

Israel and the body of Christ will not become ONE, rather they both will be "gathered" together as One in Christ (2 Thessalonians 2:1) and the ONLY remnant of Israel who is gathered together is believing Israel who repent and place their full faith in Jesus Christ. By turning to Jesus, this remnant will be gathered together and included into the body of Christ and this occurs during the 7-year Tribulation which is judgment and wrath on unbelieving Israel when the bride is removed and the dispensation of grace period is over (Ephesians 3:2). Anyone who doesn't have the Father rejects the Son. Both have separate roles in the Kingdom of God.


Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him
Ephesians 1:9-10
 Quoting: Seek^

False.

Mat 15:24  He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” 
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


You are to big of a COWARD to tell me what the Scriptures I post mean, lol.

And for the upteenth time:

YES CHRIST ONLY CAME FOR THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL!
YES CHRIST ONLY CAME FOR THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL!
YES CHRIST ONLY CAME FOR THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL!
YES CHRIST ONLY CAME FOR THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL!

we all agree on that but.....

Why did He send PAUL?
Why did He send PAUL?
Why did He send PAUL?


PLEASE ANSWER.. WAITING.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85536198

So you agree that Christ only came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel, but you refuse to be associated with the house of Israel?

The reason that Christ sent Paul has zero bearing on who Christ came to save.
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Condescending tone, dismiss sound scripture proving you wrong for 22 pages, insult after insult thrown at people proving you wrong and trying to correct your error, endless sarcastic remarks.

What's clearly evident and obvious is there is absolutely zero truth in you, none and your pride has completely blinded you to the Word of God. Good luck. Repent immediately.
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Did you just run away with your tale between your legs?!


COMMENT SPECIFICALLY on the verses I posted. What do they mean?!
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Think you misquoted me and instead asking Obedience to fruitless semantical arguing Proves divide in Faith.
 Quoting: Seek^


quote feature is messing up again
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It's definitely not the quote feature LOL
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Yeah you guys just keep on mixing and combining Israels doctrine with the Body of Christ and you will remain confused.



...Yes Jesus ONLY came for the Lost Sheep of Israel!...BUT HE SENT PAUL TO THE GENTILES.


If there were already 12 apostles why did He send Paul?



Yall have too much pride to even answer that question It is because you dont like the answer in the bible.


So if you can give a scriptural response to that question I would love to hear it. Else carry on with your head in your rectum.
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Eph 4:17 Now this I say and testify in the Lord, that you must no longer walk as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their minds.

Eph 4:18 They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart.

Eph 4:19 They have become callous and have given themselves up to sensuality, greedy to practice every kind of impurity.

Eph 4:20 But that is not the way you learned Christ!—
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Did you just run away with your tale between your legs?!


COMMENT SPECIFICALLY on the verses I posted. What do they mean?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85536198

Think you misquoted me and instead asking Obedience to fruitless semantical arguing Proves divide in Faith.
 Quoting: Seek^


quote feature is messing up again
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85491384

It's definitely not the quote feature LOL
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


hhahahaha, ok, whatever u say massuh!!!

Then, care to respond?

I'm not sure you understand what meek means either.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


what does "meek" mean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85491384

I'm sure you have access to a dictionary, but I highly doubt you ever use it.


What's YOUR understanding of what it means when Y'suah says "blessed are the meek"

What is YOUR understanding of what he was saying. Not looking for Webster's definition.
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The New Jerusalem comes down from ...wait for it...HEAVEN

Rev 21:2  And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 


And the gates to the New Jerusalem are named after...wait for it...Israel!

Rev 21:12  It had a great, high wall, with twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and on the gates the names of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel were inscribed— 



I'm not sure you understand what meek means either.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


what does "meek" mean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85491384

I'm sure you have access to a dictionary, but I highly doubt you ever use it.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith

Condescending tone, dismiss sound scripture proving you wrong for 22 pages, insult after insult thrown at people proving you wrong and trying to correct your error, endless sarcastic remarks.

What's clearly evident and obvious is there is absolutely zero truth in you, none and your pride has completely blinded you to the Word of God. Good luck. Repent immediately.
 Quoting: Seek^

If you are a Gentile then you don't know God.



1Th 4:3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality;

1Th 4:4 that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor,

1Th 4:5 not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God;





GLP