Are you Israel or The Body of Christ? Well?

Thread isn’t click bait, it’s an intervention. You need true deliverance, you’re under a spirit of confusion.

My King!

John 12:13
took the branches of the palm trees and went out to meet Him, and began to shout, “Hosanna! Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord, even the King of Israel.”

I am not trying to pick on you Kate, but you had better get acquainted with the concept of Reincarnation.

It is my opinion that you are coming back. Do you really want that?

Yes, I could be wrong, but no one has proven that yet. Just sayin.

Yup, you be coming back for sure! Hopefully to a planet with intelligent life!

I knew you would gloss over what I and others have tried to convey to you which is the truth, but I have one last question.

Do you believe in the Trinity in that Jesus Christ, the Father, and the Holy Spirit are God?

Do you believe Jesus Christ is God?

Last Edited by Seek^ on 03/26/2023 01:47 AM

Matthew 25:31–33
“When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left.”

You got it partly right.
But there is no Pre Trib Rapture, or Post Trib one.
There is only one, roughly Mid trib.

Both groups are saved by Faith. One by Faith in Jesus and one by Faith in the Law and God's promises.(which is how the OT saints achieved Salvation).

Both groups inherit Heaven, but basically the Church get there first. The OT saints are already in heaven, they arose with Jesus so they predate the Churches arrival in heaven.(Matthew 27:52)

Israel gets a 1,000 yr reign of the Messiah, before they get a chance at Heaven.

Many people confuse the promises made to Israel with those made to the Church. A closer look at the context is needed to determine who these things apply to.
Plus there is a lot of bad theology, false teaching going around.

Less time should be spent arguing and more time spent on living as Jesus would want us to. As lights to the World, shining out our Godliness.

Why is it only christians argue non stop about the meaning of their religion? Why are there like 100 different flavors? Why is the buybull edited soo many times? Hmmmm...

Because without Jesus Christ, no one is saved. Because of this fact, the adversary who is Satan attacks Christianity the hardest hence why there are so many different sects and denominations of Christianity more so than any other religion. He doesn’t bother with Buddhists or Muslims or any other partakers of idol worship because adherents to these religions are already lost. He seeks only to corrupt the knowledge of the truth.

Because they do exactly like the ]€Ws did, add and take away from the WORD OF GOD. That’s how Doctrines are formed, and they all have different Doctrines.

I try hard to just follow the Bible and ask the Holy Spirit to teach me.
I hear doctrines and I go test it myself to the scriptures, all of them, the entire book.

It’s consistent throughout the entire Bible that those that don’t follow God’s instructions that Yahshua even taught, will be destroyed. That’s why the Wrath is fire once again, to destroy the Lawless!

I study to learn what YHWH wants from me in our relationship today. Yahshua’s work reconciled me back to Our Father.

If I’m condemned by people for doing this, I just don’t care.

Do you believe Jesus Christ is God?

And so the other 90 billion people before christ and youre buybull, and the billions of other faiths are in hell? WOW!

Do you believe in listening to your own soul/heart instead of some man made religious government?

He is the Son of GOD. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are ALL GOD and in one another.

We are made in GOD’S image! GOD is in me because of Yahshua, and I TRUST AND LOVE HIM!

The Catholic Church thinks they are separate and they are NOT.

I think the number is far less that what you stated but there are many factors that went into salvation before Christ came to earth and in all honesty, only God knows the heart of an individual. Scripturally, we know a child who dies goes to Heaven because they are unaware of the law, this is also true for a person before Jesus who lived their lives without the knowledge of God. If they were aware of God and worshiped idols to spite Him, you can guarantee they are eternally separated from Him in hell but sin is not imputed where there is no law. Therefore those unaware of God who died without knowledge of Him would be under His grace and saved because there would be no charge against them for breaking a law of God they never knew existed.

Last Edited by Seek^ on 03/26/2023 02:34 AM

All made up horseshit..

Really glad to hear that and makes me feel better. As long as you have that correct, you’re good to go. No idea why you chose earlier in this thread Israel over the body of Christ among other things you profess here but if you believe what you just stated, I’m sure God will reveal the truth to you in a due time.

Seek I hope you come to the realization that there’s only one body of Yahshua, not two!!! Church and Israel.

Then we will be on the same pages of scripture.

Israel is Jacob. If we are serving the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, we are Israel.


Galatians 3:29
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?
Jeremiah 17:9


I listened to my own heart for the majority of my life when I was unaware of the power of the Holy Spirit that was within me which is the greatest force on earth. When you put your full faith in Jesus Christ, God will send you the Holy Spirit who will dwell within you at all times and He will comfort you, direct you, give you peace and impart wisdom among many other gifts which are referred to as fruits of the Spirit. This is essential to making it to Heaven and receiving eternal life, faith in Jesus Christ and being sealed with the Holy Spirit. When you unlock these two weapons which are free gifts from God, God supernaturally changes you from the inside out starting with your heart.


A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
Ezekiel 36:26-27

So when the darkness comes over the entire earth and Yahshua comes from the Heavens, I sure hope you are granted what the thief on the cross was because you will believe then. Or I hope you will!

Remember this anyways, bow down and repent and beg for mercy from Our GOD in that moment.

Many will shake their fists back to GOD, I pray you don’t do that.

The difference between Israel of the flesh and Israel of His Spirit is clear. Throughout scripture.

The satanic masoretic rapture futurist dispensationalism jesuit papist doctrines are lies.

OP is deeply decived

I am fine with my creator, you? Gotta go look up the answer in your man made book?

Well it says that’s going to happen in the book, so when it happens you’ll know the book was inspired by GOD and True. And you’ll know what to do.

We wait......

One must have faith in Jesus Christ to be of the body of Christ. I hope you become clear on that. The bride of Christ is not under judgment (Romans 8:1) nor appointed wrath (1 Thessalonians 5:9) as Jesus took both of these on the cross for us and this was the price He paid for us. Jesus said to Peter,

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Matthew 16:18

We know the saints are overcome in the Tribulation and all kindreds, tongues, and nations will fall under Satan’s control.

And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Revelation 13:7

This among many other reasons Biblically we know that the church and those who are forced to endure the 7-year Tribulation are not the same. Had they believed when the Rapture took place and were of the body of Christ, they would have been rescued. Because they did not believe at the time of rescue, the bride is taken and unbelievers in Christ are left behind but will still have a chance at salvation (if they don’t lose their lives immediately after the Rapture) if they turn to God which will be in death for the majority. Only upon belief in Jesus is one saved and upon belief, they become a part of the body of Christ. I hope you understand the importance and truth of the above.



No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
1 John 2:23


Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.
John 3:36


Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.
1 John 2:22

Last Edited by Seek^ on 03/26/2023 03:09 AM

As reincarnation is gnostic hence kabbalist deception. I think she is blessed.

Thank you for helping me understand where you are really at base12

YAHshua help you over come your deception. Amen

Salvation is by Grace alone, through Faith alone in Christ alone. And NOTHING ELSE! Try to add ANYTHING to that to get saved or STAY saved and you will NEVER be saved.

“ Each has a separate plan for Salvation and a different inheritance.”

Absolutely categorically false.