Are you Israel or The Body of Christ? Well?

Paul paid for blood sacrifices as has been stated by me three times in this thread, starting on page 3, top of page 4 while the Temple was still standing.

And Ezekiel's Temple which has never been built, the Millennium Temple, The Sacrifices will be on going throughout, Passover in Memorial, New Moons and Sabbaths with animal blood sacrifices, start reading in Chapter 44 to the end of the book if you have never done so before.

Ezekiel 45:21
In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, ye shall have the passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten.

22 And upon that day shall the prince prepare for himself and for all the people of the land a bullock for a sin offering.

There will be those at this time that are reigning and ruling with Him over those that came through the tribulation, probably those that were to young to have been held accountable for their sins, and those that will be born from them, and they will keep the Passover in Memorial, with a Blood Sacrifice

Isaiah 2:3
And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of YHWH, to the house of the God of Jacob; and He will teach us of His ways, and we will walk in His paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the Torah, and the word of YHWH from Jerusalem.

4 And He shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

YESHUA is going to rule with a rod of Iron, according to His unchangeable Torah, which He could no more abolish than He can abolish Himself

Isaiah 51:4

Hearken unto Me, My people; and give ear unto Me, O My nation: for Torah shall proceed from Me, and I will make My judgment to rest for a light of the people.

The Torah is His Nature, not just arbitrary rules that are one day an abomination and the next day they are not.

He changes not, that is the epitome of changing

It all boils down to those that refuse the way of righteousness, really do not know Him for who He really is.

The same yesterday, today and forever

The soul that sins is destroyed, it is not tortured forever, He despises the teaching of those that say that they represent Him, and believe and teach that God is going to torture forever those that are lost for the sins they committed in a finite life without them ever being destroyed.

An abomination when it comes to His Justice, profaning His Name by ascribing to Him things that are an affront to His Very Nature, and the scriptures, Anathema they are!

they sing a familiar song - you shall not surely die - ye shall not surely die la la la

Achduke - Can you FOLLOW this? Please comment.


Israel plan for Salvation Put on hold, Gentiles plan for Salvation begins


Romans 11:25

“For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.”



Salvation offered to Gentiles to provoke Israel to jealousy


Romans 11:11 - 13

11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:


Paul 1st in Body of Christ, is our pattern (can it be any clearer?)

1 Tim 1:15, 16

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.




Who did Jesus come for?

Matthew 15:24

24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.


Old Testament Salvation (not by grace alone)


Ezekiel 3:20

“Again, when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and I place an obstacle before him, he will die; since you have not warned him, he shall die in his sin, and his righteous deeds which he has done shall not be remembered; but his blood I will require at your hand.”


The "fullness of the Gentiles" is the window of opportunity for Gentiles to be saved by grace alone. It end when the Trib begins. *That is why there is a pretrib Rapture!*

The Trib is speciically for Israel (Danieel 9:24-27)!

When the Trib begins, Israels plan for Salvation and the Law is back in effect. NO MORE Grace alone.

According to the Christ you are in error. Its that simple.




Matthew 12

3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;

4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?

5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?

6 But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple.

7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.


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Fact

You obviously don't know what this meaneth...

HOW TO BE SAVED

One Gospel was For Israel BEFORE the Body of Christ.

One Gospel for the Body of Christ AFTER Paul


ACTS 2:8

8 Peter replied, “Each of you must repent of your sins and turn to God, and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins.


OR


Ephesians 1:13-14

In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.


Which one are you saved by?


Are you Israel or the Body of Christ?

Israel is the Body of Christ.

Learn how to read.

Mat 15:24  He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

1Co 12:13  For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—J(e)ws or Greeks, slaves or free—and all were made to drink of one Spirit. 

Heb 8:8  For he finds fault with them when he says: “Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will establish a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of J(u)dah, 
Heb 8:9  not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt. For they did not continue in my covenant, and so I showed no concern for them, declares the Lord. 
Heb 8:10  For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws into their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 

if you believe that you will probably never be saved.

learn to rightly divide Israel from the Body of Chris.

Its right before your eyes.

So which verse are you saved by? answer.

HOW TO BE SAVED

One Gospel was For Israel BEFORE the Body of Christ.

One Gospel for the Body of Christ AFTER Paul


ACTS 2:8

8 Peter replied, “Each of you must repent of your sins and turn to God, and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins.


OR


Ephesians 1:13-14

In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.


Which one are you saved by?


Are you Israel or the Body of Christ?

Israel is the Body of Christ.

Learn how to read.

Mat 15:24  He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

1Co 12:13  For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—J(e)ws or Greeks, slaves or free—and all were made to drink of one Spirit. 

Heb 8:8  For he finds fault with them when he says: “Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will establish a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of J(u)dah, 
Heb 8:9  not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt. For they did not continue in my covenant, and so I showed no concern for them, declares the Lord. 
Heb 8:10  For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws into their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 

Just the fact that you think anyone is saved by a single verse tells us all you are extremely complacent and have no idea what it means to rightly divide anything.

Hallelujah! It's pretty obvious here that the new covenant is with Israel.

Abraham's seed = Israel

Galatians 3:29  And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Old covenant was the law. New covenant is grace through faith in Jesus Christ. Faith alone in Jesus Christ means one is of the body of Christ. Israel rejects Jesus therefore they are not a part of the body unless they repent. Pretty simple concept.

Israel is the Body of Christ.

Learn how to read.

Mat 15:24  He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

1Co 12:13  For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—J(e)ws or Greeks, slaves or free—and all were made to drink of one Spirit. 

Heb 8:8  For he finds fault with them when he says: “Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will establish a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of J(u)dah, 
Heb 8:9  not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt. For they did not continue in my covenant, and so I showed no concern for them, declares the Lord. 
Heb 8:10  For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws into their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 

Hallelujah! It's pretty obvious here that the new covenant is with Israel.

Abraham's seed = Israel

Galatians 3:29  And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Might be a simply concept but it is not what the Bible says.

Literally two posts up, in Hebrews 8 it says the NEW COVENANT is with ISRAEL.

Go ahead and have fun arguing against the Bible...

Exactly.

To Romans 11:25 what are the gentiles coming into? Answer Israel, they are coming into one body. Being grafted into one root.

Do you know who the lost house of Israel are?

Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Why did Jesus send Paul?

When exactly did the Body of Christ begin?

What are the "times of the gentiles"?



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*If "everybody is saved the same way*, why did Jesus even have to die on the cross?

Did you know the gentiles were considered DIRT and could not even be saved unless they converted to Israel and lived with Israel before Christ?

Jesus Himself said He only came for the Lost Sheep

There was no plan of Salvation for the Gentiles before Paul....



Israel plan for Salvation Put on hold, Gentiles plan for Salvation begins


Romans 11:25

“For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.”



Salvation offered to Gentiles to provoke Israel to jealousy


Romans 11:11 - 13

11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:


Paul 1st in Body of Christ, is our pattern (can it be any clearer?)

1 Tim 1:15, 16

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.




Who did Jesus come for?

Matthew 15:24

24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.


Old Testament Salvation (not by grace alone)


Ezekiel 3:20

“Again, when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and I place an obstacle before him, he will die; since you have not warned him, he shall die in his sin, and his righteous deeds he which he has done shall not be remembered; but his blood I will require at your hand.”


The "fullness of the Gentiles" is the window of opportunity for Gentiles to be saved by grace alone. It end when the Trib begins. *That is why there is a pretrib Rapture!*

The Trib is speciically for Israel (Danieel 9:24-27)!

When the Trib begins, Israels plan for Salvation and the Law is back in effect. NO MORE Grace alone.

These headings are delusional. Where does the Bible say a plan for salvation is put on hold? Oh wait...it doesn't say that. Time to come out of Egypt and repent my friend.

No. Just to clarify, nothing you have presented is biblical.

Gal 3:28 There is neither J-e-w nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in the Messiah Yahshua.

Gal 3:29 And if ye be the Messiah's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Right Division will 100% clarify so many biblical questions in the Bible.

Stop combining Israel doctrine with The Body of Christ Doctrine.

Each has a separate plan for Salvation and a different inheritance.

One is saved by Grace, one is not.

One is Pre-trib rapture on is Post-trib rapture

One inherits Heaven, one inherits Earth.




Paul was the first in the Body of Christ. EVERYONE who comes after is too until the "times of the Gentiles" ends.


1 Tim 1: 15, 16


15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a patternto them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.



So are you Israel or the Body of Christ?

Well?

Everything I’ve just presented is 100% Biblical. Glad you clarified that unbelievers in Christ are not a part of His body and that was the only point I was trying to make. The scripture you keep posting doesn’t pertain to the OP’s original question though.

I agree, we are all one in the body who believe in Christ whether J-e-w or Greek and what makes us one in Christ is belief in Jesus, it doesn’t matter if you’re female or male or your background. This was not the OP’s question though because Israel as a whole denies Christ hence the confusion. Both Israel and the body therefore are separate from one another until those of Israel turn to Christ and then and only then are they of the body of Christ which is one body made up of believers in Jesus.