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SerenaSeesAll
User ID: 71536680 United States 05/02/2016 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is how I understand it. Quoting: SerenaSeesAll Well when rapture believers go with the anti-christ at the 6th trump, I will be here still teaching until the 7th trump when the REAL Jesus comes. And just as the UNCHANGED word says, we are to teach through the tribulation. Not being taught to "fly to save our souls"! THAT is the deception of the end times, and is how the NEW bibles will cost you your soul. IF you follow the Rapture deception. The word Rapture, and the word Apple are not in the word of God for a reason... NOT TRUE! The "Falling Away" is scripture. The rapture is not. To clarify as simply as possible, the falling away is the 1/3 that Satan gets because they were deceived by the false doctrine of the end times. Rapture is nowhere in God's word except when described as false doctrine and "God hates those that would teach his children to fly to save their souls". We are not going to fly away from the tribulation, we are to testify and teach during that time. The one who stays in the field doing God's work means the one who does not run to worship the false christ.---- The unforgivable sin is to NOT let the Spirit speak through us during the trials and tribulation. ----God's Kingdom will be established here on Earth after the cleansing. Why would you want to go anywhere else. Where would you be going if Christ is here? Being "Caught up with Christ" in the air means to be ascended to our spirit form, not flying away from the battle between good and evil. ----The man of sin will be revealed to be the false christ after that 1/3 has been claimed by Satan. If he was revealed before that, then no-one would fall for his lies would they. We must remember that antichrist comes at the 6th trump and will be revealed BEFORE Christ establishes his Kingdom on Earth. Christ doesn't return until the 7th trump. Read and learn God's word for yourself and listen to him, not man.---- Beware of modern translations of the bible, they have clearly been written to fool Christians into falling for the rapture theory. Compare those scriptures that you believe prove rapture to the old bibles and you will clearly see the deception. God will bless those who are patient like he told us to be. May your studies be blessed with understanding of God's truths and warnings. You are absolutely correct on all counts! The Rapture believers are satan's portion. He will take them as the flood took people during Noah's time and slaughtered them. The old and new testaments lay all that out as plain as day. The spirit of slumber is a real curse that God has obviously released. The Rapture believers have either attained God's attention and tbis curse by acts or by misinterpretations...but somehow it sure seems they are sleeping...heavily. ============================================================= Noticing Miracles Is My Hobby The Bible - When you carry the Bible, Satan has a headache, when you open it, he collapses, when he sees you reading it, he loses his strength, AND when you stand on the Word of God, Satan can't hurt you! |
Okaywah
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User ID: 63628716 United States 05/02/2016 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Rapture believers are satan's portion. He will take them as the flood took people during Noah's time and slaughtered them. The old and new testaments lay all that out as plain as day. The spirit of slumber is a real curse that God has obviously released. The Rapture believers have either attained God's attention and tbis curse by acts or by misinterpretations...but somehow it sure seems they are sleeping...heavily. Quoting: Chip Where's is that in the Bible? |
Okaywah
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User ID: 63628716 United States 05/02/2016 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Rapture believers are satan's portion. He will take them as the flood took people during Noah's time and slaughtered them. The old and new testaments lay all that out as plain as day. The spirit of slumber is a real curse that God has obviously released. The Rapture believers have either attained God's attention and tbis curse by acts or by misinterpretations...but somehow it sure seems they are sleeping...heavily. Quoting: Chip Where's is that in the Bible? Matthew 24. Read the entire chapter and don't let your child molesting preacher's brain washing interfere in your interpretation. Matthew 24 is for Israel. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72135172 United States 05/02/2016 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Redeemed are NOT judged. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72139361 They are already justified and sanctified by the Blood of Jesus Christ. Those who reject Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior are ALREADY judged, and DAMNED. JOHN 3 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. you are in complete ignorance and under the enslaving mind control of the NONE Jesus Christianity. Jesus never taught such garbage. IT IS GARBAGE Put on your mind and look at how many people born from 2000 years ago never heard the name that is not his anyway. He taught about the Father who indwells and lights all human beings. and never started or taught about a church. you are not saved just because your joined a club. Not how it works. His Father is YOUR FATHER and that is what taught... and that the Father indwells all humans. In fact this is truth in some 5.6 TRILLION evolutionary planets that have intelligent beings on them. Your ignorance slows your down.. it does not enhance. |
Okaywah
User ID: 63628716 United States 05/02/2016 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Rapture believers are satan's portion. He will take them as the flood took people during Noah's time and slaughtered them. The old and new testaments lay all that out as plain as day. The spirit of slumber is a real curse that God has obviously released. The Rapture believers have either attained God's attention and tbis curse by acts or by misinterpretations...but somehow it sure seems they are sleeping...heavily. Quoting: Chip Where's is that in the Bible? Matthew 24. Read the entire chapter and don't let your child molesting preacher's brain washing interfere in your interpretation. You'd better be sure I am a "...child molesting preacher...". Very dangerous ground you are treading on, Chip. |
Okaywah
User ID: 63628716 United States 05/02/2016 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Matthew 24. Read the entire chapter and don't let your child molesting preacher's brain washing interfere in your interpretation. Matthew 24 is for Israel. Lol. See what I mean? Hardly a scholarly response, Chip. Demonstrate how the "the old and new testaments lay all that out as plain as day". Last Edited by Okaywah on 05/02/2016 01:21 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 109229 United States 05/02/2016 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lisa. Quoting: Osmium76 What you are referring to is the end of the age. It isn't the Rapture, it is called Judgment according to scripture. No it's not, there really is a rapture coming. You're wrong about this. These 2 scriptures speak of it. I've been studying the bible intensely for a very long time. I didn't always believe in the rapture until the Lord Himself spoke to me about it. Now I know that it's true......and it happens at the last trump, right before the bowls of wrath begin to be poured out. Also, the ancient hebrew wedding custom is the foreshadow of the rapture. We can talk about it later if you want, right now I have to get my day started, alot to do today and I have very little energy. These 2 scriptures speak about it: 1 corinthians 15: 50-54 and 1 thessalonians 4:15-18 I was reading until "God spoke to me " then you lost any credibility. Why are religitards on the of madness? Well, I don't blame you for not believing it, and you shouldn't believe me because you don't know me and I could be full of shit, like most people are. I"m not full of shit, but you don't know that....so it's best to not believe people and ask God yourself. |
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User ID: 63628716 United States 05/02/2016 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm as sure as I can be. You are going to go wherever the first "Christ" arrives with supernatural powers. The first "Christ" that arrives is satan playing the part of Jesus. So...that on fact makes you a satan worshiper whether inadvertent or not. Sorry...it just does. Then that should be documented in Scripture. Show me where it teaches this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 109229 United States 05/02/2016 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Love is above rapture belief or no rapture belief. Love is #1 and everyone should always remember that. Love, compassion, humility, kindness, self control....the fruits of the spirit are what we should all be focusing on instead of constantly debating theology. Have a great afternoon everyone! |
Okaywah
User ID: 63628716 United States 05/02/2016 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not trolling. And you are completely a bully. You'd better mind your reckless judgement. All of these comments are unnecessary and are the reason you may force me to remove you. You go on and and on without 1 shred of any reference or documentation to prove you're not exactly as I claim you are. How am I to prove to you I am not what you falsely accuse me of? I believe Jesus is the Messiah, who died and rose again for, not only my sins, but the sins of the whole world. And He is coming again, so you'd better "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour." Matthew 26:13 Last Edited by Okaywah on 05/02/2016 02:00 PM |
Okaywah
User ID: 63628716 United States 05/02/2016 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He describes exactly what happens during that hour. If you finally admit that the rapture is a farce...that would prove to me you're not going to worship satan on accident. Quoting: Chip When the Christ arrives after satan has devoured the world...all remaining flesh will instantly (in the twinkling of an eye) be removed from us and we'll be given given new incorruptible body's. Chip, Jesus was plain when He said He will return "at an hour when you do not expect him" and repeated the warning several times over, the apostles also: "Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.” Matthew 24:42-44 “The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know.” Matthew 24:50 “Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.” Matthew 25:13 “But concerning that day or that hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Be on guard, keep awake. For you do not know when the time will come. It is like a man going on a journey, when he leaves home and puts his servants in charge, each with his work, and commands the doorkeeper to stay awake. Therefore stay awake – for you do not know when the master of the house will come, in the evening or at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or in the morning – lest he come suddenly and find you asleep. And what I say to you I say to all: Stay awake.” Mark 13:32-37 “You must also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.” Luke 12:40 “For you yourselves are fully aware that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.” 1 Thessalonians 5:2 “Be patient, therefore, brothers, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, being patient about it, until it receives the early and late rains. You also, be patient. Establish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord is at hand. Do not grumble against one another, brothers, so that you may not be judged; behold, the Judge is standing at the door.” James 5:7-9 “The end of all things is at hand.” 1 Peter 4:7 “But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and all the works done on it will be exposed.” 2 Peter 3:10 “Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear, and who keep what is written in it, for the time is near.” Revelation 1:3 “And behold, I am coming soon.” Revelation 22:7 “Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay each one for what he has done.” Revelation 22:12 “He who testifies to these things says, ‘Surely I am coming soon.’ Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!” Revelation 22:20 Last Edited by Okaywah on 05/02/2016 02:13 PM |
Okaywah
User ID: 63628716 United States 05/02/2016 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes...those are all warnings to prepare! Prepare for satan to destroy the world and deceive as many as he can. Prior to most of those warnings Jesus and the apostles speak of a falling away and mass deception. Preparations for the tribulation is essential to not becoming a direct pawn in this huge spiritual conflict. Quoting: Chip Chip, Jesus is coming to take His bride to His Father's house: “If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.” John 14:3 Last Edited by Okaywah on 05/02/2016 02:19 PM |
Black Knight
User ID: 66996549 United States 05/02/2016 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He describes exactly what happens during that hour. If you finally admit that the rapture is a farce...that would prove to me you're not going to worship satan on accident. Quoting: Chip When the Christ arrives after satan has devoured the world...all remaining flesh will instantly (in the twinkling of an eye) be removed from us and we'll be given given new incorruptible body's. Chip, Jesus was plain when He said He will return "at an hour when you do not expect him" and repeated the warning several times over, the apostles also: "Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.” Matthew 24:42-44 “The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know.” Matthew 24:50 “Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.” Matthew 25:13 “But concerning that day or that hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Be on guard, keep awake. For you do not know when the time will come. It is like a man going on a journey, when he leaves home and puts his servants in charge, each with his work, and commands the doorkeeper to stay awake. Therefore stay awake – for you do not know when the master of the house will come, in the evening or at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or in the morning – lest he come suddenly and find you asleep. And what I say to you I say to all: Stay awake.” Mark 13:32-37 “You must also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.” Luke 12:40 “For you yourselves are fully aware that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.” 1 Thessalonians 5:2 “Be patient, therefore, brothers, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, being patient about it, until it receives the early and late rains. You also, be patient. Establish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord is at hand. Do not grumble against one another, brothers, so that you may not be judged; behold, the Judge is standing at the door.” James 5:7-9 “The end of all things is at hand.” 1 Peter 4:7 “But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and all the works done on it will be exposed.” 2 Peter 3:10 “Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear, and who keep what is written in it, for the time is near.” Revelation 1:3 “And behold, I am coming soon.” Revelation 22:7 “Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay each one for what he has done.” Revelation 22:12 “He who testifies to these things says, ‘Surely I am coming soon.’ Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!” Revelation 22:20 Yes...those are all warnings to prepare! Prepare for satan to destroy the world and deceive as many as he can. Prior to most of those warnings Jesus and the apostles speak of a falling away and mass deception. Preparations for the tribulation is essential to not becoming a direct pawn in this huge spiritual conflict. Considering the state of technology, the masses addiction to techno-baubles, and the pervasive follow the herd mentality, the Cast Out One should have little to no problem pulling off mass deception. It is already scary and will get far more frightening I fear. He who feels the respect which is due to others cannot fail to inspire in them regard for himself, while he who feels, and hence manifests, disrespect towards others, especially his inferiors, cannot fail to inspire hatred against himself. When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier. Rudyard Kipling Herr Bartlett, your German is good and I hear also your French. Your arms - UP! |
SerenaSeesAll
User ID: 71536680 United States 05/02/2016 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ezekiel 13:20 King James Bible Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly. ============================================================= Noticing Miracles Is My Hobby The Bible - When you carry the Bible, Satan has a headache, when you open it, he collapses, when he sees you reading it, he loses his strength, AND when you stand on the Word of God, Satan can't hurt you! |
SerenaSeesAll
User ID: 71536680 United States 05/02/2016 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Rapture believers are satan's portion. He will take them as the flood took people during Noah's time and slaughtered them. The old and new testaments lay all that out as plain as day. The spirit of slumber is a real curse that God has obviously released. The Rapture believers have either attained God's attention and tbis curse by acts or by misinterpretations...but somehow it sure seems they are sleeping...heavily. Quoting: Chip Where's is that in the Bible? Matthew 24. Read the entire chapter and don't let your child molesting preacher's brain washing interfere in your interpretation. Matthew 24 is for Israel. Who do you think the lost ten tribes of Israel are? ============================================================= Noticing Miracles Is My Hobby The Bible - When you carry the Bible, Satan has a headache, when you open it, he collapses, when he sees you reading it, he loses his strength, AND when you stand on the Word of God, Satan can't hurt you! |
Okaywah
User ID: 63628716 United States 05/02/2016 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes...those are all warnings to prepare! Prepare for satan to destroy the world and deceive as many as he can. Prior to most of those warnings Jesus and the apostles speak of a falling away and mass deception. Preparations for the tribulation is essential to not becoming a direct pawn in this huge spiritual conflict. Quoting: Chip Chip, Jesus is coming to take His bride to His Father's house: “If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.” John 14:3 Have you not read that Heaven inhabits the Earth where Jesus resides with his portion? only 144000 are to be with God...the rest of us are Earth bound. This is our home...forever. "For we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands. Meanwhile we groan, longing to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, because when we are clothed, we will not be found naked. For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. Now the one who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God, who has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come." 2 Corinthians 5:1-5 |
SerenaSeesAll
User ID: 71536680 United States 05/02/2016 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm as sure as I can be. You are going to go wherever the first "Christ" arrives with supernatural powers. The first "Christ" that arrives is satan playing the part of Jesus. So...that on fact makes you a satan worshiper whether inadvertent or not. Sorry...it just does. Then that should be documented in Scripture. Show me where it teaches this. Show me... Show me... Show me Go get a real KJV bible, throw away the remake copy that the false doctrine preachers told you to use. Then look it up for yourself. We are not to throw the pearls of God's wisdom before swine... so keep oinking away. If you want to know then spend the countless hours we have spent studying and praying for understanding. We didn't learn nor do we continue learning in order to debate the lazy swine with our knowledge. We are well aware you will debate even what you DON'T believe just to argue. We don't have time. There are plenty of students who DO need our help, and wait eagerly for you to get out of their way so they can learn. ============================================================= Noticing Miracles Is My Hobby The Bible - When you carry the Bible, Satan has a headache, when you open it, he collapses, when he sees you reading it, he loses his strength, AND when you stand on the Word of God, Satan can't hurt you! |
Okaywah
User ID: 63628716 United States 05/02/2016 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 21 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,”[a] for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” Quoting: Revelation 21 1 thru 55 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.” Yes, this is after the Judgement. The Bride will never be separated from Jesus - "God's dwelling place" will be "among the people". |
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User ID: 63628716 United States 05/02/2016 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Show me... Show me... Show me Quoting: SerenaSeesAll Go get a real KJV bible, throw away the remake copy that the false doctrine preachers told you to use. Then look it up for yourself. We are not to throw the pearls of God's wisdom before swine... so keep oinking away. If you want to know then spend the countless hours we have spent studying and praying for understanding. We didn't learn nor do we continue learning in order to debate the lazy swine with our knowledge. We are well aware you will debate even what you DON'T believe just to argue. We don't have time. There are plenty of students who DO need our help, and wait eagerly for you to get out of their way so they can learn. "Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God." Colossians 3:16 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54472179 United States 05/02/2016 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... the Father who indwells and lights all human beings. and never started or taught about a church. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72135172 you are not saved just because your joined a club. Not how it works. His Father is YOUR FATHER and that is what taught... and that the Father indwells all humans. In fact this is truth in some 5.6 TRILLION evolutionary planets that have intelligent beings on them. We all have the light of God within but many people are distracted and cant hear God because of the noise of the world but we will all know the truth soon enough |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72105668 United States 05/02/2016 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is how I understand it. Quoting: SerenaSeesAll Well when rapture believers go with the anti-christ at the 6th trump, I will be here still teaching until the 7th trump when the REAL Jesus comes. And just as the UNCHANGED word says, we are to teach through the tribulation. Not being taught to "fly to save our souls"! THAT is the deception of the end times, and is how the NEW bibles will cost you your soul. IF you follow the Rapture deception. The word Rapture, and the word Apple are not in the word of God for a reason... NOT TRUE! The "Falling Away" is scripture. The rapture is not. To clarify as simply as possible, the falling away is the 1/3 that Satan gets because they were deceived by the false doctrine of the end times. Rapture is nowhere in God's word except when described as false doctrine and "God hates those that would teach his children to fly to save their souls". We are not going to fly away from the tribulation, we are to testify and teach during that time. The one who stays in the field doing God's work means the one who does not run to worship the false christ.---- The unforgivable sin is to NOT let the Spirit speak through us during the trials and tribulation. ----God's Kingdom will be established here on Earth after the cleansing. Why would you want to go anywhere else. Where would you be going if Christ is here? Being "Caught up with Christ" in the air means to be ascended to our spirit form, not flying away from the battle between good and evil. ----The man of sin will be revealed to be the false christ after that 1/3 has been claimed by Satan. If he was revealed before that, then no-one would fall for his lies would they. We must remember that antichrist comes at the 6th trump and will be revealed BEFORE Christ establishes his Kingdom on Earth. Christ doesn't return until the 7th trump. Read and learn God's word for yourself and listen to him, not man.---- Beware of modern translations of the bible, they have clearly been written to fool Christians into falling for the rapture theory. Compare those scriptures that you believe prove rapture to the old bibles and you will clearly see the deception. God will bless those who are patient like he told us to be. May your studies be blessed with understanding of God's truths and warnings. Thank YOU! You condensed much of what I was trying to say in my original post nicely. I think a lot of people begin to read but then they stop because it OFFENDS them, so they never learn the truth. Which ironically is in line with scripture too. May God bless you. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72105668 United States 05/02/2016 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those of you who want to endorse Rapture, here is a website of someone who uses scripture to refute it quite nicely and probably does a much better job than I could. Here is what he a portion of what he has to say and I agree with him. "One camp teaches that the rapture will occur before the Great Tribulation and; therefore, are known as pre-tribulationists. A second camp teaches that the rapture occurs in the middle of the seven-year week of Daniel are known as mid-tribulationists. And a third camp teaches that the rapture occurs at the end of the Great Tribulation. They are known as post-tribulationists. Sometimes we hear just the term "rapture," and other times we hear of the "secret rapture." The word "rapture" is not found in the Bible. Rapture is said to be taken from the Latin word rapio which means, to seize, to take by force, and is supposedly the root of the English word, "rape." The Greek word, harpazo, is translated "caught up" in the Authorized Version and "snatched away" in the Concordant Version. As "rapture" is in popular usage with reference to "caught up" and "snatched away" in I Thes. 4, we will continue to use the word in this paper. We will consider the main arguments used in favor of the rapture theory by those who use accurate translations and have a good understanding of other Scriptural truths, such as the sovereignty of God and the salvation of all. I will avoid answering all of the Christian Fundamentalist views of the rapture as their arguments in favor of a rapture add very little. ARGUMENTS FOR THE RAPTURE FOLLOWED BY SCRIPTURAL REBUTTALS" Read more here at the supplied link and open your hearts minds and eyes to the truth! I presented a clear argument, this fellow adds to that. [link to bible-truths.com] |