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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70412288 United States 05/09/2016 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: On The Day that the Rapture happens Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70412288 Thread: Hatred of The Rapture is not From True Christians but Toward True Christians Thread: The Rapture - Christianity's Most Preposterous Belief - The Blessed Hope Thread: The Rapture and the Timing of the Two Witnesses Thread: Why does the Rapture bother you so much? Thread: Would Jesus Rapture Rapture-haters? Thread: If You Do Not Believe In The Rapture... Thread: What is The Purpose of the Bible's End Times Tribulation? Rapture believers are in danger of worshiping the spurious messiah when he arrives. That is the danger. The enemy is very cunning and slick....he's got the rapture believers wrapped around his finger. False. Why do you say that I will believe something that is totally contrary to what I believe? Why do you say that I will believe the spurious messiah when he arrives when I know he is coming and I know he is false? Why do you say I will suddenly believe something that I have never believed? Explain your self-serving nonsense. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70412288 United States 05/09/2016 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. False analysis and false conclusion. 35 years. When Satan arrives pretending to be Jesus; he completely replicates the end the best he knows how. He deceives the world into believing he is Jesus. Quoting: Chip For that exact reason Jesus doesn't arrive until AFTER satan devours (nearly) the entire world. The satanic deception you have bought into makes you ripe for the picking. Quoting: Chip Satan will bring fire down from heaven and show all of the signs and wonders that Jesus did for the opposite purpose...TO DECEIVE!!!!!! Quoting: Chip You don't think satan has heard about your little messy interpretation? You don't think he's going to use that to his advantage? Quoting: Chip You are a nasty snarling soul. Jesus Christ will judge you Righteously. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70412288 United States 05/09/2016 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why can you not understand that I understand perfectly that if I am not spared the Wrath of God by My Lord Jesus Christ then I fully expect to most likely die for My Faith unless He delivers me through to the End and I have no problem with that? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72178926 Australia 05/09/2016 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: On The Day that the Rapture happens Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70412288 Thread: Hatred of The Rapture is not From True Christians but Toward True Christians Thread: The Rapture - Christianity's Most Preposterous Belief - The Blessed Hope Thread: The Rapture and the Timing of the Two Witnesses Thread: Why does the Rapture bother you so much? Thread: Would Jesus Rapture Rapture-haters? Thread: If You Do Not Believe In The Rapture... Thread: What is The Purpose of the Bible's End Times Tribulation? Rapture believers are in danger of worshiping the spurious messiah when he arrives. That is the danger. The enemy is very cunning and slick....he's got the rapture believers wrapped around his finger. False. Why do you say that I will believe something that is totally contrary to what I believe? Why do you say that I will believe the spurious messiah when he arrives when I know he is coming and I know he is false? Why do you say I will suddenly believe something that I have never believed? Explain your self-serving nonsense. Self serving? Apparently you have done ABSOLUTELY NO end times research. When Satan arrives pretending to be Jesus; he completely replicates the end the best he knows how. He deceives the world into believing he is Jesus. For that exact reason Jesus doesn't arrive until AFTER satan devours (nearly) the entire world. The satanic deception you have bought into makes you ripe for the picking. Satan will bring fire down from heaven and show all of the signs and wonders that Jesus did for the opposite purpose...TO DECEIVE!!!!!! You don't think satan has heard about your little messy interpretation? You don't think he's going to use that to his advantage? Lol...you're a daft yet funny little GLP character. You might even have a little sense when I'm done with you. :jay: Why would Satan let people know he was coming to impersonate Jesus? Its a bit of a spoiler. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70412288 United States 05/09/2016 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70412288 False analysis and false conclusion. 35 years. When Satan arrives pretending to be Jesus; he completely replicates the end the best he knows how. He deceives the world into believing he is Jesus. Quoting: Chip For that exact reason Jesus doesn't arrive until AFTER satan devours (nearly) the entire world. The satanic deception you have bought into makes you ripe for the picking. Quoting: Chip Satan will bring fire down from heaven and show all of the signs and wonders that Jesus did for the opposite purpose...TO DECEIVE!!!!!! Quoting: Chip You don't think satan has heard about your little messy interpretation? You don't think he's going to use that to his advantage? Quoting: Chip Lol...you're a daft yet funny little GLP character. You might even have a little sense when I'm done with you. Quoting: Chip :jay: Lol...you're so confused. Good luck weak mind! You're gonna need it after you worship the false messiah. Thano fully Jesus knows you're "limited". Appreciate your always kind words and loving spirit bearing witness to your deep and abiding faith, sweetheart. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72178926 Australia 05/09/2016 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70412288 False. Why do you say that I will believe something that is totally contrary to what I believe? Why do you say that I will believe the spurious messiah when he arrives when I know he is coming and I know he is false? Why do you say I will suddenly believe something that I have never believed? Explain your self-serving nonsense. Self serving? Apparently you have done ABSOLUTELY NO end times research. When Satan arrives pretending to be Jesus; he completely replicates the end the best he knows how. He deceives the world into believing he is Jesus. For that exact reason Jesus doesn't arrive until AFTER satan devours (nearly) the entire world. The satanic deception you have bought into makes you ripe for the picking. Satan will bring fire down from heaven and show all of the signs and wonders that Jesus did for the opposite purpose...TO DECEIVE!!!!!! You don't think satan has heard about your little messy interpretation? You don't think he's going to use that to his advantage? Lol...you're a daft yet funny little GLP character. You might even have a little sense when I'm done with you. :jay: Why would Satan let people know he was coming to impersonate Jesus? Its a bit of a spoiler. Lol...it's what the scriptures say. I'm just relaying. If i was Satan i wouldn't do it. It sounds like a setup. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70412288 United States 05/09/2016 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At that point in time it's all he will have left to break the heart of God and capture as many as he can. Quoting: Chip At that point in time, it's wholesale slaughter on any even suspected as Christian or Jew, because he will own a world of unrestrained evil literally worshiping Incarnate Evil that will not tolerate anything of God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70412288 United States 05/09/2016 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Pre-Tribulation View Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72172264 The Rapture is characterized in the New Testament as a "translation coming" (1 Corinthians 15:51- 52; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17) in which the Lord comes for His church, taking her to His Father's House (John 14:3). However, at Christ's Second Coming with His saints, He descends from heaven to set up His Messianic Kingdom on earth (Zechariah 14:4-5; Matthew 24:27-31). The differences between the two events are harmonized naturally by the "pre-trib" position, while other views are not able to ac count comfortably for such differences. A New Testament Mystery Paul speaks of the Rapture as a "mystery" (1 Corinthians 15:51-54), that is, a truth not revealed until its disclosure by the apostles (Colossians 1:26). The Second Coming, on the other hand, was predicted in the Old Testament (Daniel 12:1-3; Zechariah 12:10; 14:4). In fact, the oldest prophecy uttered by a prophet was given before the flood of Noah and was of the Second Coming! It was given by Enoch, quoted in Jude 14-15. The movement of the believer at the Rapture is from earth to heaven; at the Second Coming it is from heaven to earth. At the Rapture, the Lord comes for His saints (1 Thessalonians 4:16), while at the Second Coming the Lord comes with His saints (1 Thessalonians 3:13). [link to www.khouse.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70412288 United States 05/09/2016 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "This clip is from our series "35 most asked questions concerning Bible Prophecy". This clip answers the question: Why is Jesus' teaching in John 14:1-3 an analogy of a Jewish wedding which also infers a Pre-Tribulation rapture of the church?" "Chuck Missler - The Jewish Wedding - Does It Prove The Rapture?" |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72105668 United States 05/10/2016 05:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Galatians Chapter 1 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. 10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72185112 Spain 05/10/2016 05:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: On The Day that the Rapture happens Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70412288 Thread: Hatred of The Rapture is not From True Christians but Toward True Christians Thread: The Rapture - Christianity's Most Preposterous Belief - The Blessed Hope Thread: The Rapture and the Timing of the Two Witnesses Thread: Why does the Rapture bother you so much? Thread: Would Jesus Rapture Rapture-haters? Thread: If You Do Not Believe In The Rapture... Thread: What is The Purpose of the Bible's End Times Tribulation? Rapture believers are in danger of worshiping the spurious messiah when he arrives. That is the danger. The enemy is very cunning and slick....he's got the rapture believers wrapped around his finger. Exactly. There Is No Rapture. Rule Of Thumb: If You Pinch Yourself AND It Hurts The True Yeshua Jesus Messiah IS NOT Standing Before You. When Our True Yeshua Jesus Shows Up We Are ALL Translated Into Our New Father God's Intended Glorified Bodies. Some will still have corruptible hearts AND Receive Teaching, Discipline for a 1000 years. Some of us already have incorruptible hearts...And will be Teachin'! Let Yeshua's 1000 Year Kingdom Reign!!! AMEN!!! the rule of thumb is correct, yet you do not get it. why? it is not for you to decide if yours is an incorruptible one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72185112 Spain 05/10/2016 05:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A WARNING AGAINST FALSE DOCTRINE. A WARNING AGAINST THE FALSE RAPTURE THEORY. Quoting: Osmium76 Galatians Chapter 1 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. 10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. this is not appropriate within the scope of the context at hand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72185112 Spain 05/10/2016 05:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: On The Day that the Rapture happens Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70412288 Thread: Hatred of The Rapture is not From True Christians but Toward True Christians Thread: The Rapture - Christianity's Most Preposterous Belief - The Blessed Hope Thread: The Rapture and the Timing of the Two Witnesses Thread: Why does the Rapture bother you so much? Thread: Would Jesus Rapture Rapture-haters? Thread: If You Do Not Believe In The Rapture... Thread: What is The Purpose of the Bible's End Times Tribulation? Rapture believers are in danger of worshiping the spurious messiah when he arrives. That is the danger. The enemy is very cunning and slick....he's got the rapture believers wrapped around his finger. False. Why do you say that I will believe something that is totally contrary to what I believe? Why do you say that I will believe the spurious messiah when he arrives when I know he is coming and I know he is false? Why do you say I will suddenly believe something that I have never believed? Explain your self-serving nonsense. Self serving? Apparently you have done ABSOLUTELY NO end times research. When Satan arrives pretending to be Jesus; he completely replicates the end the best he knows how. He deceives the world into believing he is Jesus. For that exact reason Jesus doesn't arrive until AFTER satan devours (nearly) the entire world. The satanic deception you have bought into makes you ripe for the picking. Satan will bring fire down from heaven and show all of the signs and wonders that Jesus did for the opposite purpose...TO DECEIVE!!!!!! You don't think satan has heard about your little messy interpretation? You don't think he's going to use that to his advantage? Lol...you're a daft yet funny little GLP character. You might even have a little sense when I'm done with you. :jay: I am not expecting to meet Jesus Christ as he appeared to his own in transfiguration, and not as he appeared after the resurrection, but I will see Him as He is in God's Heaven. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72105668 United States 05/10/2016 05:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Proponents of the Rapture have repeatedly said that the Day Of The Lord WHICH IS JESUS CHRISTS SECOND COMING, is NOT the same as the Rapture. They claim that Jesus draws them up into heaven, without coming to earth. Supposedly, this happens prior to His return. The following scripture pointedly shows that Jesus will appoint righteousness when He APPEARS ON THAT DAY, THE DAY OF THE LORD. Jesus Himself states this in Matthew 24 : 27. WHEN HE APPEARS!! WHAT DOES HE SAY? EVERY EYE WILL BEHOLD HIM!! 2 Timothy 4:8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. 1 Peter 5:4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72105668 United States 05/10/2016 06:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: On The Day that the Rapture happens Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70412288 Thread: Hatred of The Rapture is not From True Christians but Toward True Christians Thread: The Rapture - Christianity's Most Preposterous Belief - The Blessed Hope Thread: The Rapture and the Timing of the Two Witnesses Thread: Why does the Rapture bother you so much? Thread: Would Jesus Rapture Rapture-haters? Thread: If You Do Not Believe In The Rapture... Thread: What is The Purpose of the Bible's End Times Tribulation? Rapture believers are in danger of worshiping the spurious messiah when he arrives. That is the danger. The enemy is very cunning and slick....he's got the rapture believers wrapped around his finger. Exactly. There Is No Rapture. Rule Of Thumb: If You Pinch Yourself AND It Hurts The True Yeshua Jesus Messiah IS NOT Standing Before You. When Our True Yeshua Jesus Shows Up We Are ALL Translated Into Our New Father God's Intended Glorified Bodies. Some will still have corruptible hearts AND Receive Teaching, Discipline for a 1000 years. Some of us already have incorruptible hearts...And will be Teachin'! Let Yeshua's 1000 Year Kingdom Reign!!! AMEN!!! the rule of thumb is correct, yet you do not get it. why? it is not for you to decide if yours is an incorruptible one. That is the whole point of this thread. People who endorse a Rapture, by the very definition of the Rapture Theory, believe that they have earned salvation. That is the basic Rapture principle. They believe that they get to catch an express to heaven, because they are approved and worthy. In their mind, they envision a means for the just and faithful to skip all of the testing and trying to come. They are above that because they are already righteous. This means that they can relax. They have made it. They did what they had to do. They are going to Jesus, they don't need to wait for Him to come to them. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72105668 United States 05/10/2016 06:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Chip Rapture believers are in danger of worshiping the spurious messiah when he arrives. That is the danger. The enemy is very cunning and slick....he's got the rapture believers wrapped around his finger. False. Why do you say that I will believe something that is totally contrary to what I believe? Why do you say that I will believe the spurious messiah when he arrives when I know he is coming and I know he is false? Why do you say I will suddenly believe something that I have never believed? Explain your self-serving nonsense. Self serving? Apparently you have done ABSOLUTELY NO end times research. When Satan arrives pretending to be Jesus; he completely replicates the end the best he knows how. He deceives the world into believing he is Jesus. For that exact reason Jesus doesn't arrive until AFTER satan devours (nearly) the entire world. The satanic deception you have bought into makes you ripe for the picking. Satan will bring fire down from heaven and show all of the signs and wonders that Jesus did for the opposite purpose...TO DECEIVE!!!!!! You don't think satan has heard about your little messy interpretation? You don't think he's going to use that to his advantage? Lol...you're a daft yet funny little GLP character. You might even have a little sense when I'm done with you. :jay: I am not expecting to meet Jesus Christ as he appeared to his own in transfiguration, and not as he appeared after the resurrection, but I will see Him as He is in God's Heaven. Apparently, your righteousness is so great that you are going to go see Jesus instead of waiting for Him to come to us as He said He will. Good luck with that, because that is NOT what He says. He says He is coming HERE. |
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User ID: 69883546 United Kingdom 05/10/2016 06:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing" (Matthew 24:42-46) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63628716 Jesus didn't use the word "Rapture" but He did say that He can come any moment - and He's talking to believers. Everything else about this discussion is false doctrine.' Believers, be ready. That was well said. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72105668 United States 05/10/2016 06:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing" (Matthew 24:42-46) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63628716 Jesus didn't use the word "Rapture" but He did say that He can come any moment - and He's talking to believers. Everything else about this discussion is false doctrine.' Believers, be ready. :9teen: That was well said. Again. The flaw of the Rapture is that Jesus says He is coming HERE!!! The Rapture Theory is based upon people who believe their righteousness is so great that they get to go to Him. It is contrary to scripture. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72185112 Spain 05/10/2016 06:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SCRIPTURE DOES NOT SAY THAT BELIEVERS GO TO JESUS. Quoting: Osmium76 IT SAYS HE COMES TO US. BY THIS YOU KNOW THE RAPTURE THEORY IS FALSE. THE RAPTURE IS ABOUT SAVING YOURSELF INSTEAD OF HAVING JESUS COME TO SAVE YOU. now I clearly see where is the stumbling block. I was writing a different post, but alas it is now irrelevant. It is about those two sisters who are both in love with the guy next door. Which one out of two will he take as his bride? The one on whom he set his eye from the beginning. Which one is that? The one who dear to him for loving him as he is and follows him wherever he goes, -- camping? fine! fishing? fine! Shopping? fine! hardships? fine! -- never complaining. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72105668 United States 05/10/2016 07:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You see? The whole problem with the Rapture, is that people are trying to save themselves. Let's reason about what it means to be saved shall we? Someone or something that needs saving, has to have someone do the saving. In almost every instance, the person doing the saving must act on behalf of the thing or individual being saved. To save something generally implies that the thing or individual that needs saved is not able to make that possible of their own accord. Jesus is our Savior. To save something or someone, in most instances, requires the one doing the saving going to the one needing saved. That is exactly What Jesus Christ says He is going to do. He is our proverbial ambulance. He is the one who jumps in the water and rescues us from drowning. He is the one who charges into the burning building and drags us out. He is the one who steps in front of the bullet and takes it for us. HE COMES TO US. To be saved, means that He must intervene. Where is the intervention, if we have the ability to go to Him? If we are able to go to Him, then we don't need saved, because we carry ourselves. Are we greater than He is? NO! The Rapture denies Jesus Christ. The principle of the Rapture is that we can save ourselves. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72185112 Spain 05/10/2016 07:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Chip Rapture believers are in danger of worshiping the spurious messiah when he arrives. That is the danger. The enemy is very cunning and slick....he's got the rapture believers wrapped around his finger. Exactly. There Is No Rapture. Rule Of Thumb: If You Pinch Yourself AND It Hurts The True Yeshua Jesus Messiah IS NOT Standing Before You. When Our True Yeshua Jesus Shows Up We Are ALL Translated Into Our New Father God's Intended Glorified Bodies. Some will still have corruptible hearts AND Receive Teaching, Discipline for a 1000 years. Some of us already have incorruptible hearts...And will be Teachin'! Let Yeshua's 1000 Year Kingdom Reign!!! AMEN!!! the rule of thumb is correct, yet you do not get it. why? it is not for you to decide if yours is an incorruptible one. That is the whole point of this thread. People who endorse a Rapture, by the very definition of the Rapture Theory, believe that they have earned salvation. That is the basic Rapture principle. They believe that they get to catch an express to heaven, because they are approved and worthy. In their mind, they envision a means for the just and faithful to skip all of the testing and trying to come. They are above that because they are already righteous. This means that they can relax. They have made it. They did what they had to do. They are going to Jesus, they don't need to wait for Him to come to them. you are still wtwisting. Why would you be ruptured then? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72105668 United States 05/10/2016 07:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SCRIPTURE DOES NOT SAY THAT BELIEVERS GO TO JESUS. Quoting: Osmium76 IT SAYS HE COMES TO US. BY THIS YOU KNOW THE RAPTURE THEORY IS FALSE. THE RAPTURE IS ABOUT SAVING YOURSELF INSTEAD OF HAVING JESUS COME TO SAVE YOU. now I clearly see where is the stumbling block. I was writing a different post, but alas it is now irrelevant. It is about those two sisters who are both in love with the guy next door. Which one out of two will he take as his bride? The one on whom he set his eye from the beginning. Which one is that? The one who dear to him for loving him as he is and follows him wherever he goes, -- camping? fine! fishing? fine! Shopping? fine! hardships? fine! -- never complaining. YES!! THANK YOU MERCIFUL GOD! I really do NOT hate people who believe in the Rapture. It is the false belief that I despise. It is out of LOVE that I attempt to show them the flaw in this false doctrine. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72105668 United States 05/10/2016 07:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65029710 Exactly. There Is No Rapture. Rule Of Thumb: If You Pinch Yourself AND It Hurts The True Yeshua Jesus Messiah IS NOT Standing Before You. When Our True Yeshua Jesus Shows Up We Are ALL Translated Into Our New Father God's Intended Glorified Bodies. Some will still have corruptible hearts AND Receive Teaching, Discipline for a 1000 years. Some of us already have incorruptible hearts...And will be Teachin'! Let Yeshua's 1000 Year Kingdom Reign!!! AMEN!!! the rule of thumb is correct, yet you do not get it. why? it is not for you to decide if yours is an incorruptible one. That is the whole point of this thread. People who endorse a Rapture, by the very definition of the Rapture Theory, believe that they have earned salvation. That is the basic Rapture principle. They believe that they get to catch an express to heaven, because they are approved and worthy. In their mind, they envision a means for the just and faithful to skip all of the testing and trying to come. They are above that because they are already righteous. This means that they can relax. They have made it. They did what they had to do. They are going to Jesus, they don't need to wait for Him to come to them. you are still wtwisting. Why would you be ruptured then? This is what they believe. That they are going to HIM and don't need to wait for HIM to save them. That is what Rapture believers believe. That is the context in which I said that. I BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST COMES TO US, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT HE TELLS US. |