Derek Chauvin Trial - Day 9 - Livestream | |
The Daddylorian
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snark
Forum Administrator 04/08/2021 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was saying "I can't breathe" from the moment the cops tried to put him in the car. Didn't start when they got him on the ground! T For Texas, T For Tennessee! The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
muckuh
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Corporal Punishment
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Sardonic Dadaist
User ID: 79047769 United States 04/08/2021 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I doubt that is even a diagnosis. Also isn’t he in toxicology and unqualified to make anatomy based diagnosis if there even are any.... Have you been listening to this case at all. Almost every Medical person has talked about it. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] I would ask are they trained to make diagnosis based on incomplete video footage with no monitoring of a patient? We’re you trained to only diagnosis based on signs and symptoms... from the footage what signs or symptoms do you see, and of those what can be solely contributed to positional asphyxiation. Do any of those (signs and symptoms) have cross over with drug related conditions. Seeker 2 |
snark
Forum Administrator 04/08/2021 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Smock seems like another over eager prosecution witness. He doesn’t seem balanced. He seems to only pay attention to evidence that fits his opinion. He seems to ignore other evidence. He can’t explain all the facts. Quoting: Corporal Punishment T For Texas, T For Tennessee! The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
muckuh
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ID2268
User ID: 78933608 United Kingdom 04/08/2021 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ID2268 the point is, until it gets into the blood it's not ingested yet. your stomach contents are outside of the body. if it isn't absorbed into the blood, it's not doing anything yet. The point is it was slowly being absorbed raising over the 30 minutes he was interacting with police. Raising beyond his tolerance level. you think his tolerance level as in his required dose to overdose and die was half that of the average found with those stopped for a DUI and still driving? that's a really really long stretch you're going for there. You don’t understand what a ratio is, I’m sorry. Someone taking one pill converting half has the same ratio as someone taking 100 and converting 50 before they die. it's still 11 ng/ml whatever the ratio and the metabolite is less still. i don't think 11 ng/ml of fentanyl in his blood killed him. you do? |
snark
Forum Administrator 04/08/2021 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was saying "I can't breathe" from the moment the cops tried to put him in the car. Didn't start when they got him on the ground! Quoting: snark Yep. And he was asleep in the car before the cops got there. He got an adrenaline rush when the cops showed up. This witness is crap. yes they better show ALL of that video T For Texas, T For Tennessee! The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
ID2268
User ID: 78933608 United Kingdom 04/08/2021 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was saying "I can't breathe" from the moment the cops tried to put him in the car. Didn't start when they got him on the ground! Quoting: snark exactly. something else killed him, it wasn't the weight of derek chauvin on his back and it wasn't the mere 11ng/ml of fentanyl. he was however covid positive.. |
snark
Forum Administrator 04/08/2021 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, if he had been clean for a period of time before this incident, a much lower level of opiates could kill him. The reverse of tolerance, and this is why many OD as they use the same amount as they used to use and it kills them. Last Edited by snark on 04/08/2021 05:31 PM T For Texas, T For Tennessee! The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
ID2268
User ID: 78933608 United Kingdom 04/08/2021 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I doubt that is even a diagnosis. Also isn’t he in toxicology and unqualified to make anatomy based diagnosis if there even are any.... Have you been listening to this case at all. Almost every Medical person has talked about it. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Are they trained to diagnose patient conditions they only have incomplete video from with no inspection or vital signs? i think you're confusing perfection with reality. they only have to convince a dumb jury after all. |
Rick Deez Nuts
User ID: 80225419 United States 04/08/2021 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obviously there are too many boot lickers on GLP, since 90% of the folks want the cHop to be acquitted...the policemen, saying in plurality, because all three of them participated in the murder, held their knees on the dude 3 minutes long after he stopped breathing, instead of easing the situation minutes after he was on the ground in handcuffs Quoting: money$$$ fentanyl or not, their immature, racist obviously actions, have enhanced whatever Floyd was on and that contributed to his death...they're guilty as littler children poking their fingers in a jar full of candies i'm White btw, Conservative, Christian, so GTFO with your TDS bandwagon idiocracies I think most people here want justice to be served. Your opinion on what that constitutes is different than most here. The restraint had nothing to do with his death, and while I think you know that, you choose to ignore it. What no one has explained (who thinks like you) is if the cop choked him out and killed him, why was he saying I can’t breathe 10 minutes before they ever even tried to put him in the back of the squad car. It’s weird right? It also tells me you haven’t watched the body cam footage. Once you do, you’ll come back and delete your reply |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79324350 United States 04/08/2021 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | fentanyl or not, their immature, racist obviously actions, have enhanced whatever Floyd was on and that contributed to his death...they're guilty as littler children poking their fingers in a jar full of candies Quoting: money$$$ Please explain to me your evidence that their actions were racist. Keep in mind that one of the officers was black, another Asian, and the man who's currently on trial is married to the sister of the Asian. Also the clerk who called the cops in the first place was Asian. :truestory: |
Sardonic Dadaist
User ID: 79047769 United States 04/08/2021 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Sardonic Dadaist The point is it was slowly being absorbed raising over the 30 minutes he was interacting with police. Raising beyond his tolerance level. you think his tolerance level as in his required dose to overdose and die was half that of the average found with those stopped for a DUI and still driving? that's a really really long stretch you're going for there. You don’t understand what a ratio is, I’m sorry. Someone taking one pill converting half has the same ratio as someone taking 100 and converting 50 before they die. it's still 11 ng/ml whatever the ratio and the metabolite is less still. i don't think 11 ng/ml of fentanyl in his blood killed him. you do? Considering the cocktail including meth and an active Covid case yes. Seeker 2 |
ID2268
User ID: 78933608 United Kingdom 04/08/2021 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, if he had been clean for a period of time before this incident, a much lower level of opiates could kill him. The reverse of tolerance, and this is why many OD as they use the same amount as they used to use and it kills them. Quoting: snark this shows a nice indicator of dosage for recreational use [link to www.drugs.com (secure)] 11ng/ml blood puts him well into the safe range. |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 72493816 United States 04/08/2021 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://twitter.com/_/status/1380272069405999111 "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 72493816 United States 04/08/2021 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://twitter.com/_/status/1380272264160153603 "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 72493816 United States 04/08/2021 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://twitter.com/_/status/1380272741954228225 "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
Sardonic Dadaist
User ID: 79047769 United States 04/08/2021 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Sardonic Dadaist I doubt that is even a diagnosis. Also isn’t he in toxicology and unqualified to make anatomy based diagnosis if there even are any.... Have you been listening to this case at all. Almost every Medical person has talked about it. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Are they trained to diagnose patient conditions they only have incomplete video from with no inspection or vital signs? i think you're confusing perfection with reality. they only have to convince a dumb jury after all. He needs to be asked this in cross or called back. There is NO way anyone can claim a cause of death from video without something obvious like a decapitation. He needs to be called out on it. Seeker 2 |
ID2268
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Sardonic Dadaist
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Simple27
User ID: 78918190 United States 04/08/2021 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, if he had been clean for a period of time before this incident, a much lower level of opiates could kill him. The reverse of tolerance, and this is why many OD as they use the same amount as they used to use and it kills them. Quoting: snark Yes, true. BBQ, do you remember off hand if Floyd's girlfriend mentioned something about him being clean for a couple of weeks prior to his death? Maybe the beginning of May? I feel like she said something like that but I can't remember for sure and I could be wrong. ~*Ride the Wave*~ |
ID2268
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BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 72493816 United States 04/08/2021 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | everyone seems to be missing this point but fentanyl is a sedative. Quoting: ID2268 if he was overdosing he would be falling asleep, not having a panic attack. He was falling asleep. He sat in the car for almost a half hour in front of cup foods after passing the fake $20 The passengers Hill and Hall couldnt keep him awake to leave the scene before the Police arrived. "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
18328
User ID: 80165748 United States 04/08/2021 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Smock seems like another over eager prosecution witness. He doesn’t seem balanced. He seems to only pay attention to evidence that fits his opinion. He seems to ignore other evidence. He can’t explain all the facts. Quoting: Corporal Punishment Over opinionated too. Watch his tone change during cross examination. Really sick of paid witnesses. I basically have tuned out. |
Corporal Punishment
User ID: 24262777 United States 04/08/2021 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | everyone seems to be missing this point but fentanyl is a sedative. Quoting: ID2268 if he was overdosing he would be falling asleep, not having a panic attack. He was falling asleep. He sat in the car for almost a half hour in front of cup foods after passing the fake $20 The passengers Hill and Hall couldnt keep him awake to leave the scene before the Police arrived. Exactly. We must consider all of the evidence. It seems he got a sudden burst of energy. So we have him passing out, regaining energy, and then losing energy. Maybe he got a burst of adrenaline and then the larger, fatal dose of fentanyl he took killed him. |