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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72134020 United States 04/08/2021 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | everyone seems to be missing this point but fentanyl is a sedative. Quoting: ID2268 if he was overdosing he would be falling asleep, not having a panic attack. He was on meth too along with 5 other drugs have you not looked at toxicology. small amounts of drugs. 11 ng/ml fentanyl 86 ng/ml morphine 19 ng/ml meth 42 ng/ ml d9c-thc I do not expect that amount of those drugs in that combination to cause respiratory failure. Especially since he was having problems breathing before being on the floor. He was having a panic attack. That alone is enough to kill. Do you need me to link the CDC study where 2 people died of 11 and 13 ng/ml again? Lol |
ID2268
User ID: 78933608 United Kingdom 04/08/2021 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://twitter.com/_/status/1380281123322925056 Keep in mind Courteney Ross testified they had been clean for a few months. still the amount in his blood is a recreational dose. it's even smaller than you would give an infant for sedation. [link to www.drugs.com (secure)] 90% arterial blockage. stressing the body, panic attack. stressful circumstances. jury verdict. death by misadventure. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73421769 United States 04/08/2021 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | everyone seems to be missing this point but fentanyl is a sedative. Quoting: ID2268 if he was overdosing he would be falling asleep, not having a panic attack. He was on meth too along with 5 other drugs have you not looked at toxicology. small amounts of drugs. 11 ng/ml fentanyl 86 ng/ml morphine 19 ng/ml meth 42 ng/ ml d9c-thc I do not expect that amount of those drugs in that combination to cause respiratory failure. Especially since he was having problems breathing before being on the floor. He was having a panic attack. That alone is enough to kill. Out of 150 people that overdosed on Fentanyl, they all had between 3 to 6 nb/ml in their system. |
ID2268
User ID: 78933608 United Kingdom 04/08/2021 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | everyone seems to be missing this point but fentanyl is a sedative. Quoting: ID2268 if he was overdosing he would be falling asleep, not having a panic attack. He was on meth too along with 5 other drugs have you not looked at toxicology. small amounts of drugs. 11 ng/ml fentanyl 86 ng/ml morphine 19 ng/ml meth 42 ng/ ml d9c-thc I do not expect that amount of those drugs in that combination to cause respiratory failure. Especially since he was having problems breathing before being on the floor. He was having a panic attack. That alone is enough to kill. Do you need me to link the CDC study where 2 people died of 11 and 13 ng/ml again? Lol that doesn't mean he died of it and by the looks of it. he didn't. |
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User ID: 73421769 United States 04/08/2021 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | everyone seems to be missing this point but fentanyl is a sedative. Quoting: ID2268 if he was overdosing he would be falling asleep, not having a panic attack. He was on meth too along with 5 other drugs have you not looked at toxicology. small amounts of drugs. 11 ng/ml fentanyl 86 ng/ml morphine 19 ng/ml meth 42 ng/ ml d9c-thc I do not expect that amount of those drugs in that combination to cause respiratory failure. Especially since he was having problems breathing before being on the floor. He was having a panic attack. That alone is enough to kill. Do you need me to link the CDC study where 2 people died of 11 and 13 ng/ml again? Lol Floyd's was high because he swallowed it when the first unit arrived. |
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(OP) User ID: 72493816 United States 04/08/2021 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://twitter.com/_/status/1380283341069557767 "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
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User ID: 24262777 United States 04/08/2021 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://twitter.com/_/status/1380281123322925056 Keep in mind Courteney Ross testified they had been clean for a few months. I’m unclear on the timeline of his overdose while being arrested in 2019 and mama taking him to the hospital for an overdose. When was the overdose where she took him to the hospital? |
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Forum Administrator 04/08/2021 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://twitter.com/_/status/1380281123322925056 Keep in mind Courteney Ross testified they had been clean for a few months. still the amount in his blood is a recreational dose. it's even smaller than you would give an infant for sedation. [link to www.drugs.com (secure)] 90% arterial blockage. stressing the body, panic attack. stressful circumstances. jury verdict. death by misadventure. You do not give a fentanyl dose for sedation WITHOUT VENTILATION. Without ventilation, you will croak. At 11 nl it is certainly possible. T For Texas, T For Tennessee! The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
ID2268
User ID: 78933608 United Kingdom 04/08/2021 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | everyone seems to be missing this point but fentanyl is a sedative. Quoting: ID2268 if he was overdosing he would be falling asleep, not having a panic attack. He was on meth too along with 5 other drugs have you not looked at toxicology. small amounts of drugs. 11 ng/ml fentanyl 86 ng/ml morphine 19 ng/ml meth 42 ng/ ml d9c-thc I do not expect that amount of those drugs in that combination to cause respiratory failure. Especially since he was having problems breathing before being on the floor. He was having a panic attack. That alone is enough to kill. Out of 150 people that overdosed on Fentanyl, they all had between 3 to 6 nb/ml in their system. assuming george flowyd has the regular 5 litres of blood observed in humans and 11 nano gram is 0.000011 micrograms. if you times that by 5000 ml then you get a dose of 0.055mcg this is the dose for sedation of infants. Younger infants: ---Sedation/analgesia: Slow IV push: 1 to 4 mcg/kg/dose; may repeat every 2 to 4 hours ---Continuous sedation/analgesia: Initial IV bolus: 1 to 2 mcg/kg |
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User ID: 72134020 United States 04/08/2021 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Sardonic Dadaist He was on meth too along with 5 other drugs have you not looked at toxicology. small amounts of drugs. 11 ng/ml fentanyl 86 ng/ml morphine 19 ng/ml meth 42 ng/ ml d9c-thc I do not expect that amount of those drugs in that combination to cause respiratory failure. Especially since he was having problems breathing before being on the floor. He was having a panic attack. That alone is enough to kill. Do you need me to link the CDC study where 2 people died of 11 and 13 ng/ml again? Lol that doesn't mean he died of it and by the looks of it. he didn't. It means he could have... let’s remember that the cop is INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty... All we have to do is prove reasonable doubt... I would say that’s enough reasonable doubt... Plus, he OD’d in March... I’m sure Nelson is just waiting on that evidence... It will be interesting to see what his levels were then... if they are less than 11 ng/ml this case falls apart. |
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User ID: 72134020 United States 04/08/2021 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://twitter.com/_/status/1380281123322925056 Keep in mind Courteney Ross testified they had been clean for a few months. I’m unclear on the timeline of his overdose while being arrested in 2019 and mama taking him to the hospital for an overdose. When was the overdose where she took him to the hospital? March 2020 I believe |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 72493816 United States 04/08/2021 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://twitter.com/_/status/1380281123322925056 Keep in mind Courteney Ross testified they had been clean for a few months. I’m unclear on the timeline of his overdose while being arrested in 2019 and mama taking him to the hospital for an overdose. When was the overdose where she took him to the hospital? March of 2020 was when he Overdosed. [link to www.usatoday.com (secure)] Last Edited by BBQ BOY™ on 04/08/2021 06:23 PM "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
Simple27
User ID: 78918190 United States 04/08/2021 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://twitter.com/_/status/1380281123322925056 Keep in mind Courteney Ross testified they had been clean for a few months. Ahhh, I thought so. I thought I remembered her saying a couple of weeks. She said a couple of months which would drop that tolerance even more. ~*Ride the Wave*~ |
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User ID: 24262777 United States 04/08/2021 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://twitter.com/_/status/1380281123322925056 Keep in mind Courteney Ross testified they had been clean for a few months. I’m unclear on the timeline of his overdose while being arrested in 2019 and mama taking him to the hospital for an overdose. When was the overdose where she took him to the hospital? March 2020 I believe https://twitter.com/_/status/1380281123322925056 Keep in mind Courteney Ross testified they had been clean for a few months. I’m unclear on the timeline of his overdose while being arrested in 2019 and mama taking him to the hospital for an overdose. When was the overdose where she took him to the hospital? March of 2020 was when he Overdosed. [link to www.usatoday.com (secure)] Interesting. Does a recent overdose make you more susceptible to a fatal overdose? Does it further weaken the body? It seems to me it does. Also, what exactly is an “overdose”? If you don’t die did you overdose? Stop the people who say the police killed Floyd, was he or was he not overdosing while being arrested? |
ID2268
User ID: 78933608 United Kingdom 04/08/2021 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://twitter.com/_/status/1380281123322925056 Keep in mind Courteney Ross testified they had been clean for a few months. I’m unclear on the timeline of his overdose while being arrested in 2019 and mama taking him to the hospital for an overdose. When was the overdose where she took him to the hospital? March 2020 I believe https://twitter.com/_/status/1380281123322925056 Keep in mind Courteney Ross testified they had been clean for a few months. I’m unclear on the timeline of his overdose while being arrested in 2019 and mama taking him to the hospital for an overdose. When was the overdose where she took him to the hospital? March of 2020 was when he Overdosed. [link to www.usatoday.com (secure)] Interesting. Does a recent overdose make you more susceptible to a fatal overdose? Does it further weaken the body? It seems to me it does. Also, what exactly is an “overdose”? If you don’t die did you overdose? Stop the people who say the police killed Floyd, was he or was he not overdosing while being arrested? overdose, is a fatal dose. |
ID2268
User ID: 78933608 United Kingdom 04/08/2021 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wouldn't it be ironic if he just had a spliff of nice cannabis just before the cops turned up and it was a "whitey" that killed him. - whitey - thc induced hypoglycemia resulting in arterial shrinkage. Last Edited by ID2268 on 04/08/2021 06:31 PM |
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ID2268
User ID: 78933608 United Kingdom 04/08/2021 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what was he trying to buy from the shop? - was it something containing sugar? Last Edited by ID2268 on 04/08/2021 06:34 PM |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 72493816 United States 04/08/2021 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He bought cigarettes. L&M menthols I would think. Because there were some empty packs of those in the Mercedes when they processed it. "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
ID2268
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User ID: 24262777 United States 04/08/2021 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So anyone alive has never overdosed? You can’t have multiple overdoses? you can avoid the overdose you would have had with some reversal drugs. So then overdose is just a potentially lethal dose? And, we can’t be sure everyone who received a counteracting drug would have died, can we? My point isn’t to be obtuse but just to get more of a focused idea of what overdose really means. Because the concept ties into Floyd’s death even if someone thinks the police killed him. |
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User ID: 72134020 United States 04/08/2021 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://twitter.com/_/status/1380281123322925056 Keep in mind Courteney Ross testified they had been clean for a few months. Ahhh, I thought so. I thought I remembered her saying a couple of weeks. She said a couple of months which would drop that tolerance even more. Wow... that prosecutor said he would have built up tolerance yet another witness, his GF, says he was clean for months... So much biased... so much manipulation |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 72493816 United States 04/08/2021 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He bought cigarettes. L&M menthols I would think. Because there were some empty packs of those in the Mercedes when they processed it. How if they refused his fake money? They refused Hall when he tried to pass the Bill. Hall gave it to Floyd and he passed it. Had they refused it, none of this would have happened. "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
ID2268
User ID: 78933608 United Kingdom 04/08/2021 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So anyone alive has never overdosed? You can’t have multiple overdoses? you can avoid the overdose you would have had with some reversal drugs. So then overdose is just a potentially lethal dose? And, we can’t be sure everyone who received a counteracting drug would have died, can we? My point isn’t to be obtuse but just to get more of a focused idea of what overdose really means. Because the concept ties into Floyd’s death even if someone thinks the police killed him. well, it's not just potentially lethal it is definitely lethal without antidote. or else, it's not an over dose. |
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User ID: 72134020 United States 04/08/2021 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So anyone alive has never overdosed? You can’t have multiple overdoses? you can avoid the overdose you would have had with some reversal drugs. So then overdose is just a potentially lethal dose? And, we can’t be sure everyone who received a counteracting drug would have died, can we? My point isn’t to be obtuse but just to get more of a focused idea of what overdose really means. Because the concept ties into Floyd’s death even if someone thinks the police killed him. He’s an idiot, not every overdose results in death... lol |
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User ID: 24262777 United States 04/08/2021 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He bought cigarettes. L&M menthols I would think. Because there were some empty packs of those in the Mercedes when they processed it. He was a smoker! Oh man. Well that clearly is what killed him. Every cigarette pack has a government warning about death on them. And according to the government menthol is the most dangerous kind of cigarette. |
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User ID: 72134020 United States 04/08/2021 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Corporal Punishment So anyone alive has never overdosed? You can’t have multiple overdoses? you can avoid the overdose you would have had with some reversal drugs. So then overdose is just a potentially lethal dose? And, we can’t be sure everyone who received a counteracting drug would have died, can we? My point isn’t to be obtuse but just to get more of a focused idea of what overdose really means. Because the concept ties into Floyd’s death even if someone thinks the police killed him. well, it's not just potentially lethal it is definitely lethal without antidote. or else, it's not an over dose. That is a complete lie... I have many friends who have overdosed and didn’t receive any treatments... stop taking out your ass |
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User ID: 24262777 United States 04/08/2021 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://twitter.com/_/status/1380281123322925056 Keep in mind Courteney Ross testified they had been clean for a few months. Ahhh, I thought so. I thought I remembered her saying a couple of weeks. She said a couple of months which would drop that tolerance even more. Wow... that prosecutor said he would have built up tolerance yet another witness, his GF, says he was clean for months... So much biased... so much manipulation If he was clean then isn’t that the most dangerous time to use? Clean people think they can handle more than a novice. I’ve heard from people that with heroin using after being clean is very dangerous. That would apply to fentanyl too I’d think. |