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Tangy
User ID: 69917668 United States 01/25/2020 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have you been following the genome sequencing? [link to www.statnews.com (secure)] a pre print by the wuhan institute of virology. [link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)] the first complete genome released. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] I'm reading there has already been 24 others done as well. Nothing pointing to mutations yet. Personally I think nature can do things on it's own, and the genome points to a single animal to human transmission. What are your thoughts on this being purposely released? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78388908 United States 01/25/2020 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure you are. No one has EVER lied about who they are on glp. By the way I'm Superman, a Jedi Grandmaster and a Star admiral. Anyone what to ask me a question??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78382913 Shit bro you found me out, im really just a fat 21 year old neet posting from my mommas basement I know. That's for confirming. Now excuse me I'm back to the planet Krypton. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78344784 United Kingdom 01/25/2020 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have you been following the genome sequencing? Quoting: Tangy I'm reading there has already been 24 others done as well. Nothing pointing to mutations yet. Personally I think nature can do things on it's own, and the genome points to a single animal to human transmission. What are your thoughts on this being purposely released? Wasnt aware of this, fucking cool, didnt even know the entire genome was in the public domain. I speculated, i dunno if it was in this thread or another that the way they were confirming infections was via PCR and DNA Fingerprinting. Sequencing is so advanaced these days that i bet it can be done in mere hours. im wondering what online gene analysis tools are around to see what this fucking things genes are doing. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77887629 Canada 01/25/2020 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Question #1 What do you know about the well known and respected chineese research scientist and her partner that were involved in a federal investigation along with her team of chineese students. Why did they take her computer, why was she and her team removed from the lab, what was she charged with, and what was the breach of sensitive information? Was she involved in the exportation of microbes to China and they simply caught her, or was she providing information to them? Or is a she a good guy who somehow got tied up in a conflict of interest to do with the vaccines and they had to silence her because they know she knows her stuff better than anyone. I'm not posting her name because this situation could be unrelated, and/or she could be the good guy trying to save the world as china and/or usa practises big Pharma antics and world depopulation. if you don't know the story, go read it and get back to me. This happened in Canada about 6 months ago. She is very well known internationally. I find it hard to believe she would sell out and I'm inclined to think something else went on, but I haven't a clue what it could be. Question #2 Do you believe that this virus escaped from the biohazard lab in wuhan and that it is actually a genetically engineered product of a combination of genes from various coronaviruses which they were using I'n an attempt to create a targeted vaccine. Disclaimer to you and others - This is all speculation.I'm asking questions not stating facts. |
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2012Portal - Mayan Beyond 2012 User ID: 15022013 Netherlands 01/25/2020 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont know thats why im paying serious attention to whats going on, some epidemiologists are suggesting this has an r0 ( reproduction rate ) above 3.5 which is significant as thats above the common cold, how many people do you know who have had the common cold around you in the past few months? I has me concerned and worried, but im not freaking out too much right now, the next week weeks are interesting. 1.2 to 2.5 is what I read From the love of power to the power of Love - My camera and video gear: [link to graphicstart.com] --- --- --- "Jesus Christ, the Son of God our Savior" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78310900 United States 01/25/2020 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this new flu doesn't kill people but accompanying pneumonia does, why don't we all just get the pneumonia vaccination? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78310900 pneumonia is basically a symptom not a disease, like how meningitis is inflamation of the meninges, there are bacterial and viral caustive agents of pneumonia, but any respiratory infection that affects lung function could lead to pneumonia, if its a secondary infection cause by a bacterial infection for example then yes antibiotics could help. would a viral pneumonia vaccine help against corona virus caused pneumonia, no i dont think so. i could be wrong though im not a doctor, an immunologist or a virologist. There are two shots - normally taken a year apart and they protect against different bacteria which commonly cause pneumonia infections. PCV13 helps protect people from 13 of the most severe types of bacteria that cause pneumonia. PPSV23 protects against an additional 23 types of pneumonia bacteria. Neither can prevent every type of pneumonia, but they work against more than 30 common, severe types. One can only assume that the infections spawned off the corona virus likely would be included in these shots. But I haven't been able to find anything about it when I Google. I mean, you would still get the virus, but it is the pneumonia which is actually killing people. Get rid of the pneumonia and definitely up your chance of survival. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78344784 United Kingdom 01/25/2020 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Question #1 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77887629 What do you know about the well known and respected chineese research scientist and her partner that were involved in a federal investigation along with her team of chineese students. Why did they take her computer, why was she and her team removed from the lab, what was she charged with, and what was the breach of sensitive information? Was she involved in the exportation of microbes to China and they simply caught her, or was she providing information to them? Or is a she a good guy who somehow got tied up in a conflict of interest to do with the vaccines and they had to silence her because they know she knows her stuff better than anyone. I'm not posting her name because this situation could be unrelated, and/or she could be the good guy trying to save the world as china and/or usa practises big Pharma antics and world depopulation. if you don't know the story, go read it and get back to me. This happened in Canada about 6 months ago. She is very well known internationally. I find it hard to believe she would sell out and I'm inclined to think something else went on, but I haven't a clue what it could be. I'm not aware of any of this tbh, im loosly aware of the worrying number of microbiology experts dying in strange ways, but thats been going on with journalists too and other fields for years, the cynic in me suspects its just because we have better access to information these days. Who knows chinas motivation as a government, they do seem pretty shitty with the theft of IP going on in the tech industries, if its motivated by malice is a complex question, it could be a greed thing and its monetary in nature, it could be a power thing which is worrying. Question #1 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77887629 Do you believe that this virus escaped from the biohazard lab in wuhan and that it is actually a genetically engineered product of a combination of genes from various coronaviruses which they were using I'n an attempt to create a targeted vaccine. The genome is in the public domain now as i just found out, so im sure some slueths will figure out what this thing is doing at the gene level now, it would be hard to explain if weird genes turned up in this thing and it looks hybridized from unrelated virus species. I doubt its a bioweapon, natures bioweapon perhaps. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78344784 United Kingdom 01/25/2020 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure you are. No one has EVER lied about who they are on glp. By the way I'm Superman, a Jedi Grandmaster and a Star admiral. Anyone what to ask me a question??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78382913 I hen more trust in you then lying OP. of all the things to lie about, why would i lie about being a microbiology tech, its basically a 20k a year job for graduates from bioscience fields. you could earn more money being a new york cab driver. |
Tangy
User ID: 69917668 United States 01/25/2020 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have you been following the genome sequencing? Quoting: Tangy I'm reading there has already been 24 others done as well. Nothing pointing to mutations yet. Personally I think nature can do things on it's own, and the genome points to a single animal to human transmission. What are your thoughts on this being purposely released? Wasnt aware of this, fucking cool, didnt even know the entire genome was in the public domain. I speculated, i dunno if it was in this thread or another that the way they were confirming infections was via PCR and DNA Fingerprinting. Sequencing is so advanaced these days that i bet it can be done in mere hours. im wondering what online gene analysis tools are around to see what this fucking things genes are doing. Right now I think everything has to be shipped to cdc.. [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] clinical features. [link to www.thelancet.com (secure)] Diagnostic detection of 2019-nCoV by real-time RT-PCR [link to www.who.int (secure)] Detection of 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) by real-time RT-PCR [link to www.eurosurveillance.org (secure)] As for tools, I am not sure. There is another forum I found back during swine flu and many who work on the genomes post there, Fascinating stuff. Many are posted publicly though. And some are not. It is not an obligation to publish the sequence before patenting in the biology community. This news site has had some interesting articles. [link to www.statnews.com (secure)] |
Tangy
User ID: 69917668 United States 01/25/2020 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Question #1 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77887629 What do you know about the well known and respected chineese research scientist and her partner that were involved in a federal investigation along with her team of chineese students. Why did they take her computer, why was she and her team removed from the lab, what was she charged with, and what was the breach of sensitive information? Was she involved in the exportation of microbes to China and they simply caught her, or was she providing information to them? Or is a she a good guy who somehow got tied up in a conflict of interest to do with the vaccines and they had to silence her because they know she knows her stuff better than anyone. I'm not posting her name because this situation could be unrelated, and/or she could be the good guy trying to save the world as china and/or usa practises big Pharma antics and world depopulation. if you don't know the story, go read it and get back to me. This happened in Canada about 6 months ago. She is very well known internationally. I find it hard to believe she would sell out and I'm inclined to think something else went on, but I haven't a clue what it could be. I'm not aware of any of this tbh, im loosly aware of the worrying number of microbiology experts dying in strange ways, but thats been going on with journalists too and other fields for years, the cynic in me suspects its just because we have better access to information these days. Who knows chinas motivation as a government, they do seem pretty shitty with the theft of IP going on in the tech industries, if its motivated by malice is a complex question, it could be a greed thing and its monetary in nature, it could be a power thing which is worrying. Question #1 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77887629 Do you believe that this virus escaped from the biohazard lab in wuhan and that it is actually a genetically engineered product of a combination of genes from various coronaviruses which they were using I'n an attempt to create a targeted vaccine. The genome is in the public domain now as i just found out, so im sure some slueths will figure out what this thing is doing at the gene level now, it would be hard to explain if weird genes turned up in this thing and it looks hybridized from unrelated virus species. I doubt its a bioweapon, natures bioweapon perhaps. It is around a 90% match to bat corona virus, and genome sequencing points to a single animal to human , not multiple animals. Then human to human from there. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78344784 United Kingdom 01/25/2020 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We'll see in a few weeks. If you really are a microbiologist, you don't know jack shit about viruses. Never claimed to be a virologist or mycologist, viruses and funghi were not my scope my field was bacteriology, and i was a lab tech not a researcher i said as such. I gave my input because i know more than the layman and i was seeing a hell of a lot of crap on the forum here, id suspect if you are a practing biochemist you know a hell of a lot more than i do about viruses. I did study, haematology, biochemistry, immunology etc as part of my microbiology degree. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78388936 New Zealand 01/25/2020 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Same for me in Melbourne,Oz. Cleared up on Christmas day thankfully. Could have been from mingling with other shoppers at the busiest time of my year. Jumping onboard to follow. Quoting: esoteric Morgan Just before and after Christmas, here in central Alabama, people in my family were experiencing what seems to have been the flu. While at a family gathering at my niece's on the 23rd, without any warning such as abdominal pain, I suddenly found myself with 'the runs', hardly making it to the restroom a number of times that afternoon. I didn't eat anything while there, so never attributed this problem with the gathering itself. Meanwhile, an elderly Aunt and Uncle living about 40 miles away cancelled Christmas with us DUE to a gastric illness similar to what I experienced. It took a few days to clear, though still not completely, which, until now, just seemed unusual to me. I have developed mild to moderately severe feelings of nausea at times, a bit of cramping in various places in my torso (currently near my kidneys, while last week in front near my spleen) along with very mild cold symptoms on and off ever since. I'm pretty much never ill, eat an almost 100% organic diet, live alone, and rarely go out...so whatever my immune system continues to battle has been a curious mystery. About a week after Christmas, my niece developed high fever and a massive kidney infection, while her two young children, whose cold symptoms have seemed to continue in an on and off fashion ever since the holidays ended, have both needed Urgent Care at separate points by mid January. One child was diagnosed within the past week with croup...of all things. One month has passed since the gathering, also attended by her brother and his family, who drove up from Naples, Florida. The three of them are currently sick with massive flu-like symptoms, his wife bed-ridden the last two days with high-fever, with my nephew having sought ER care yesterday for high fever and flu-like symptoms. ______ I'm only adding all of this because all these events within one family seems a bit more than odd. Most of us have shopped at big box stores during and after the holiday season. There's an increasing amount of foodstuffs from China on the shelves, while Orientals with masks on their faces roam the same aisles we have. All this said... is three ANY possibility that this virus has already been lurking among us for at least a month, with us getting infected slowly enough over time to somehow act upon our immune systems in a mild, yet recurring, fashion? I know I'm grasping at straws here, but it seems to me that there may be patterns at work here which might easily be overlooked, yet, significant. Just thought I'd add the strangeness my family continues to be experiencing, though miles apart, What's the chance this IS a virus that specifically targets immune systems, which then leaves it up to the body to figure out how to deal with it according to the health status of each individual as the vector seeks out places to hide or grow? Apologies for my babbling on so. |
Tangy
User ID: 69917668 United States 01/25/2020 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Question #1 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77887629 What do you know about the well known and respected chineese research scientist and her partner that were involved in a federal investigation along with her team of chineese students. Why did they take her computer, why was she and her team removed from the lab, what was she charged with, and what was the breach of sensitive information? Was she involved in the exportation of microbes to China and they simply caught her, or was she providing information to them? Or is a she a good guy who somehow got tied up in a conflict of interest to do with the vaccines and they had to silence her because they know she knows her stuff better than anyone. I'm not posting her name because this situation could be unrelated, and/or she could be the good guy trying to save the world as china and/or usa practises big Pharma antics and world depopulation. if you don't know the story, go read it and get back to me. This happened in Canada about 6 months ago. She is very well known internationally. I find it hard to believe she would sell out and I'm inclined to think something else went on, but I haven't a clue what it could be. I'm not aware of any of this tbh, im loosly aware of the worrying number of microbiology experts dying in strange ways, but thats been going on with journalists too and other fields for years, the cynic in me suspects its just because we have better access to information these days. Who knows chinas motivation as a government, they do seem pretty shitty with the theft of IP going on in the tech industries, if its motivated by malice is a complex question, it could be a greed thing and its monetary in nature, it could be a power thing which is worrying. Question #1 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77887629 Do you believe that this virus escaped from the biohazard lab in wuhan and that it is actually a genetically engineered product of a combination of genes from various coronaviruses which they were using I'n an attempt to create a targeted vaccine. The genome is in the public domain now as i just found out, so im sure some slueths will figure out what this thing is doing at the gene level now, it would be hard to explain if weird genes turned up in this thing and it looks hybridized from unrelated virus species. I doubt its a bioweapon, natures bioweapon perhaps. It is around a 90% match to bat corona virus, and genome sequencing points to a single animal to human , not multiple animals. Then human to human from there. sorry.. make that 96% Unfortunately, genetic analysis can’t identify what animal species the coronavirus jumped from into humans. But an analysis by a team from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, posted to the preprint server bioRxiv, determined that the genome of this coronavirus (the seventh known to infect humans) is 96% identical to that of a bat coronavirus, suggesting that species is the original source. (Writing in the New England Journal of Medicine on Friday, another team of scientists in China reported that the new coronavirus is 86.9% identical to the bat SARS-like coronavirus.) [link to www.statnews.com (secure)] The genome sequences suggest that was a one-time-only jump. “The genomes [from the 24 samples] are very uniform,” Andersen said. “If there had been multiple introductions,” including from many different animals, “there would be more genomic diversity. This was a single introduction.” That means that what’s sustaining the spread is human-to-human transmission (suggesting that closing Wuhan’s animal market is very much an after-the-horse-has-fled-the-barn reaction). Last Edited by Tangy on 01/25/2020 04:50 PM |
Theobromine The Deplorable
User ID: 1783400 United States 01/25/2020 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With your knowledge, what would you recommend to prepare for this possible shit storm? Quoting: Olelady i think in general prepers have the right idea, but if you want to avoid getting a virus, avoid human contact its thats simple. don't forget door knobs, shopping carts, restaurant menus. Restaurant menus!!! I read they tested dirtier than a toilet seat! They recommended you order - then GO WASH YOUR HANDS!!! Then eat! "What are you helping with all this helping?" Buddhist saying |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78344784 United Kingdom 01/25/2020 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is around a 90% match to bat corona virus, and genome sequencing points to a single animal to human , not multiple animals. Then human to human from there. Quoting: Tangy Yeah just read that in some of the links, Bat SARS, just skimming through now looking for the snake stuff, has anything more been said about the snake link? i read about it but nothing journal published just spurious news stuff. |
ParamedicUK
User ID: 78376274 United Kingdom 01/25/2020 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This Is How China Is Hiding The True Number Of Coronavirus Deaths [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] But hiding doesn't help Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
Tangy
User ID: 69917668 United States 01/25/2020 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is around a 90% match to bat corona virus, and genome sequencing points to a single animal to human , not multiple animals. Then human to human from there. Quoting: Tangy Yeah just read that in some of the links, Bat SARS, just skimming through now looking for the snake stuff, has anything more been said about the snake link? i read about it but nothing journal published just spurious news stuff. Nothing that I have seen, no. same article [link to www.statnews.com (secure)] Unfortunately, genetic analysis can’t identify what animal species the coronavirus jumped from into humans. But an analysis by a team from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, posted to the preprint server bioRxiv, determined that the genome of this coronavirus (the seventh known to infect humans) is 96% identical to that of a bat coronavirus, suggesting that species is the original source. (Writing in the New England Journal of Medicine on Friday, another team of scientists in China reported that the new coronavirus is 86.9% identical to the bat SARS-like coronavirus.) Last Edited by Tangy on 01/25/2020 04:54 PM |
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Tangy
User ID: 69917668 United States 01/25/2020 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bacteria. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] read more though, it was just a google answer from me. It appears, then, that in addition to pharyngeal carriage, other, still-unidentified cofactors, perhaps seasonal viral respiratory infections, are important in the pathogenesis of invasive disease. Last Edited by Tangy on 01/25/2020 04:56 PM |
Trained Noticer
Forum Moderator User ID: 76014573 United States 01/25/2020 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this new flu doesn't kill people but accompanying pneumonia does, why don't we all just get the pneumonia vaccination? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78310900 pneumonia is basically a symptom not a disease, like how meningitis is inflamation of the meninges, there are bacterial and viral caustive agents of pneumonia, but any respiratory infection that affects lung function could lead to pneumonia, if its a secondary infection cause by a bacterial infection for example then yes antibiotics could help. would a viral pneumonia vaccine help against corona virus caused pneumonia, no i dont think so. i could be wrong though im not a doctor, an immunologist or a virologist. There are two shots - normally taken a year apart and they protect against different bacteria which commonly cause pneumonia infections. PCV13 helps protect people from 13 of the most severe types of bacteria that cause pneumonia. PPSV23 protects against an additional 23 types of pneumonia bacteria. Neither can prevent every type of pneumonia, but they work against more than 30 common, severe types. One can only assume that the infections spawned off the corona virus likely would be included in these shots. But I haven't been able to find anything about it when I Google. I mean, you would still get the virus, but it is the pneumonia which is actually killing people. Get rid of the pneumonia and definitely up your chance of survival. Or maybe be lucky. (Bad Luck) Never have pneumonia- ever- Get the Pneumonia vaccine shot. Be dead 3 weeks later from Pneumonia. Ask beeches. It happened to her mother. She's mentioned it several times on GLP. For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase) It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. (Mark Twain) |