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I'm a microbiologist, (bacteriology) ask me whatever you want.

 
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OP, if a person is infected by MRSA, is he really infected by MRSA for life? In other words, a carrier of MRSA for life?
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some people are carriers of resistant staph, it just means the staph they have are strains that are resistant to penicillin class antibacterial drugs.

Its not good, but its becoming more and more of a problem, lots of clostridum species and ecoli species are becoming issues too.
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People keep stating that the fatality rate of this virus is for example 3.9% because 39/1000 cases have died,
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Should say /100
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Your math was right the first time. This ‘correction’ would indicate you’re not very intelligent, and definitely not a microbiologist.
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I'm terrible at math and i cant edit my posts as im an ac. im aware.
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People keep stating that the fatality rate of this virus is for example 3.9% because 39/1000 cases have died,
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Should say /100
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Your math was right the first time. This ‘correction’ would indicate you’re not very intelligent, and definitely not a microbiologist.
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hesright
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Im not freaking out yet...

If i see the stocks start to tank...this week i know its over..

And im going on a spending spree buying Guns,food,ammo,and hazmat suits...

Because if this thing is bad and starts killing people in a rapid pace...

God help us!
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prove you're not BS

who engineered Escherichia coli O104:H4 ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65038713


Without going off on a tangent, i never bought the idea that HIV wasnt introduced into humans by way of using simian kidneys as growth medium for polio vaccine culture in the 50s in africa.

It was said by reputable accademics that it was a conspiracy theory and disproven, but i 100% think big pharma fucked up and accidentally introduced simian immunodeficiency virus into humans, i cant prove that at all and it is speculation but i guess they'd be on the hook for billions in compensation, it would be worse than the tobacco companies liability.

For anybody not familiar with what im talking about, there were research papers (that were later disproven) that suggested that HIV started because a vaccination program in africa in the 50s used monkey kidneys to culture polio vaccine, it was speculatin these monkey kidneys contained SIV the monkey version of hiv, and thats how HIV started in people.
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Yes yes yes!!! Have you seen the documentary called The River? It’s a book too! It goes into detail about everything you are saying about SIV and the polio vaccine! It’s mind blowing !
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is three ANY possibility that this virus has already been lurking among us for at least a month, with us getting infected slowly enough over time to somehow act upon our immune systems in a mild, yet recurring, fashion?

 Quoting: esoteric Morgan


one would suspect any fomites wouldnt be harbouring any viable viruses weeks after shipping goods from china, temperature fluctionations exposure to sunlight and the atmosphere and other factors would have taken care of that, frozen goods or other types of goods, i dont know.

Jumping onboard to follow.

What's the chance this IS a virus that specifically targets immune systems, which then leaves it up to the body to figure out how to deal with it according to the health status of each individual as the vector seeks out places to hide or grow?

 Quoting: esoteric Morgan


people online have been suggesting it can cause a cytokine storm, which is a kind of feeback loop of the immune system of healty indivuals.

Not sure what you are asking in your language in the second part here, but viruses are essentially repicating molecules that attach to cells, infiltrate and then the genetic material hijacks cellular reproductive cyles to produce more of the virus, no real intent of intelligence to how they spread.
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People keep stating that the fatality rate of this virus is for example 3.9% because 39/1000 cases have died,
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Should say /100
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Your math was right the first time. This ‘correction’ would indicate you’re not very intelligent, and definitely not a microbiologist.
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maybe it just indicates im an overthinker who is bad a math and has blonde moments.
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Yes yes yes!!! Have you seen the documentary called The River? It’s a book too! It goes into detail about everything you are saying about SIV and the polio vaccine! It’s mind blowing !
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I have not but i will check that out, thanks.
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People keep stating that the fatality rate of this virus is for example 3.9% because 39/1000 cases have died,
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Should say /100
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Well for a start, you are not a microbiologist because that is wrong.

The basic reproduction number, R0, of an infection is the number of cases one case generates on average over the course of its infectious period, in an otherwise uninfected population. So if R0=3.8, then for each infected person, we can expect another 3.8 people to become infected.
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I never said that was the r0 what the hell are you talking about. Im clearing up the fatality rate which keeps getting stated as low because in 1000s of cases there have only been a few dozen deaths, what people are not taking into account is that those thousands of people still have to fully recover.
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OP
There are many of us here that appreciate your post. Just ignore the jealous one.

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With your knowledge, what would you recommend to prepare for this possible shit storm?
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i think in general prepers have the right idea, but if you want to avoid getting a virus, avoid human contact its thats simple.
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don't forget door knobs, shopping carts, restaurant menus.
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Oh keypads and touch screens at check outs, or wherever.
I've gotten a lot of red for telling the truth and being right. Just sayin'
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People also keep comparing this virus to the flu, which is influenza virus or a particular strain, this chinese virus is corona virus, of which generally speaking the common cold is a species of, there are exceptions to this as rhino viruses and adeno viruses are also implicated in being a causitive agent of the common cold.

This is the reason there are flu shots, as influenza is generally easier to vaccinate for, coronona viruses involved in the common cold such as alphacorona virus 299 mutate pretty rapidly. so its difficult to vaccinate against.
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Thread: The SPANISH FLU INFECTED ABOUT ONE THIRD OF THE EARTHS POPULATION
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There are many of us here that appreciate your post. Just ignore the jealous one.

Take Care and God bless and keep you
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No worries, there are people here who are way more qualified and who i would certainly defer too, i just have a good half a decade experience in a lab dealing with bacteria and prep on a day to day basis.

I'm just a humble former microbiology tech who wanted to give my 2 cents, i am by no means an expert on viruses, and my bacteriology is rusty and so is my mycology is even worse.

I was just getting frustrated with all the posts on the internet i keep reading about how the fatality rate is nothing and how its all hype and doom, because only 30 people have died out of 1500 people etc, or the posts about how, lol only 3% fatal, ebola is 99%, with people not grasping the concept that an infection can burn out by either being too deadly or not being infectious enough.

Those people are not wrong, but misguided in the sense that they are making the assumption that this virus is not dangerous because its only mildly more dangerous than a bad flu for what we know so far.

I know enough to know thats not the case, but im not expert but i figured i know a little more than some people sticking their oar in here, id love it if some actual people with science backgrounds could make a thread here and talk about this is a logical sense.
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I have a specific question on testing for the virus.
I assume they isolated protein signatures for assay. Is that correct?
How long does it take perform the test?
How do they already have test kits since this is a new virus?
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What was the earths population circa 1900? 1.5 - 2 billion?

its probably 4x that now, so if this is as bad as spannish flu, we are looking at 200 million deaths, if its worse? who knows.
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Granted im not a virologist and my virology is very very rusty. I need to clear some stuff up thats been bugging, me though.

People keep stating that the fatality rate of this virus is for example 3.9% because 39/1000 cases have died, thats not how it works at all. 950+ of those cases still have to recover.

If a virus infects 10 people and within a week 1 person dies, it doesnt mean the virus has a fatality rate of 10%, it just means currently 10% have died, the other 9 still have to fully recover.
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You could also say that for every 1 reported case there are 5 that aren't reported and that they all recovered so your math is very screwy.
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I have a specific question on testing for the virus.
I assume they isolated protein signatures for assay. Is that correct?
How long does it take perform the test?
How do they already have test kits since this is a new virus?
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Not sure, id figure the chinese PCR'd it and genomed it early on and have some kind of dna fingerprinting test that can be done in as little as 12-24 hours.

The problem is if it is mutating and if the cleaving remains the same, i guess they can track changes to the genetics with this, my molecular genetics is real rusty. The only test kits i have experience with is bacterial api kits
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Granted im not a virologist and my virology is very very rusty. I need to clear some stuff up thats been bugging, me though.

People keep stating that the fatality rate of this virus is for example 3.9% because 39/1000 cases have died, thats not how it works at all. 950+ of those cases still have to recover.

If a virus infects 10 people and within a week 1 person dies, it doesnt mean the virus has a fatality rate of 10%, it just means currently 10% have died, the other 9 still have to fully recover.
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You could also say that for every 1 reported case there are 5 that aren't reported and that they all recovered so your math is very screwy.
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I agree 100%, i bet its highly under reported, that was just a crude example. The point i was making there though is that there are lots of factors and its not as simple as cases/deaths. They would need a randomized control group and to track the status of those patients to figure it out, and i doubt the chinese will publish that any time soon.

Somebody smarter than me might be able to infer that from information though, we should all keeping reading up on this as i suspect eventually somebody will figure it out. I can only speculate that its probably similar to the spannish flu tbf.
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Granted im not a virologist and my virology is very very rusty. I need to clear some stuff up thats been bugging, me though.

People keep stating that the fatality rate of this virus is for example 3.9% because 39/1000 cases have died, thats not how it works at all. 950+ of those cases still have to recover.

If a virus infects 10 people and within a week 1 person dies, it doesnt mean the virus has a fatality rate of 10%, it just means currently 10% have died, the other 9 still have to fully recover.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78344784


You could also say that for every 1 reported case there are 5 that aren't reported and that they all recovered so your math is very screwy.
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I agree 100%, i bet its highly under reported, that was just a crude example. The point i was making there though is that there are lots of factors and its not as simple as cases/deaths. They would need a randomized control group and to track the status of those patients to figure it out, and i doubt the chinese will publish that any time soon.

Somebody smarter than me might be able to infer that from information though, we should all keeping reading up on this as i suspect eventually somebody will figure it out. I can only speculate that its probably similar to the spannish flu tbf.
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Yes. If this is in fact real, the Chinese will keep the real numbers secret. They have markets and investors too. If in fact this is a real epidemic and not some concocted scare tactic by tptb, this could potentially nuke the Chinese economy.
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I'm not worried about the mexican beer virus. Bill Gates can go suck a mosquito.
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Yes. If this is in fact real, the Chinese will keep the real numbers secret. They have markets and investors too. If in fact this is a real epidemic and not some concocted scare tactic by tptb, this could potentially nuke the Chinese economy.
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I'd go one step further and suggest the entire world economy, i think thats why the WHO and the Chinese and everybody else has been a little sheepish about it, i think the chinese have realized and have now clamped down hard attempted to lock the stable door after the horse has bolted so to speak.

I suspect its already way too late and we are looking at a repeat of the spannish flu but in a world with global air travel and 4x more population to infect. People dont grasp that even if this virus only kills 2.5% of those it infects, if it infects 4 billion people its going to kill 100 million people by virtue of statistics.

I think this very well may be in god/fate/mother natures hands now. I guess the next few weeks will inform us all.
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Did you brushed your teeth with bacteriological toothpaste.
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bought these last year
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and i have a forsheda a4 gas mask that uses 40mm standard nato thread mount filters
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Did you brushed your teeth with bacteriological toothpaste.
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I use baking soda toothpaste.
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People keep stating that the fatality rate of this virus is for example 3.9% because 39/1000 cases have died,
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Should say /100
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Nope. 39/100 would be 39%.
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People keep stating that the fatality rate of this virus is for example 3.9% because 39/1000 cases have died,
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Should say /100
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Nope. 39/100 would be 39%.
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Looks like you graduated in microbiology without being familiar with basic arithmetic...
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Jumping onboard to follow.



Just before and after Christmas, here in central Alabama, people in my family were experiencing what seems to have been the flu. While at a family gathering at my niece's on the 23rd, without any warning such as abdominal pain, I suddenly found myself with 'the runs', hardly making it to the restroom a number of times that afternoon. I didn't eat anything while there, so never attributed this problem with the gathering itself. Meanwhile, an elderly Aunt and Uncle living about 40 miles away cancelled Christmas with us DUE to a gastric illness similar to what I experienced.

It took a few days to clear, though still not completely, which, until now, just seemed unusual to me. I have developed mild to moderately severe feelings of nausea at times, a bit of cramping in various places in my torso (currently near my kidneys, while last week in front near my spleen) along with very mild cold symptoms on and off ever since. I'm pretty much never ill, eat an almost 100% organic diet, live alone, and rarely go out...so whatever my immune system continues to battle has been a curious mystery.

About a week after Christmas, my niece developed high fever and a massive kidney infection, while her two young children, whose cold symptoms have seemed to continue in an on and off fashion ever since the holidays ended, have both needed Urgent Care at separate points by mid January. One child was diagnosed within the past week with croup...of all things.

One month has passed since the gathering, also attended by her brother and his family, who drove up from Naples, Florida. The three of them are currently sick with massive flu-like symptoms, his wife bed-ridden the last two days with high-fever, with my nephew having sought ER care yesterday for high fever and flu-like symptoms.

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I'm only adding all of this because all these events within one family seems a bit more than odd.

Most of us have shopped at big box stores during and after the holiday season. There's an increasing amount of foodstuffs from China on the shelves, while Orientals with masks on their faces roam the same aisles we have.

All this said...

is three ANY possibility that this virus has already been lurking among us for at least a month, with us getting infected slowly enough over time to somehow act upon our immune systems in a mild, yet recurring, fashion?

I know I'm grasping at straws here, but it seems to me that there may be patterns at work here which might easily be overlooked, yet, significant. Just thought I'd add the strangeness my family continues to be experiencing, though miles apart,

What's the chance this IS a virus that specifically targets immune systems, which then leaves it up to the body to figure out how to deal with it according to the health status of each individual as the vector seeks out places to hide or grow?

Apologies for my babbling on so. 1dunno1
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That is very interesting. I am experiencing something similar to your story. Minus the family cases. I am not 100% yet but very similar.
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If this becomes anything, u may as well go first....
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Did you brushed your teeth with bacteriological toothpaste.
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I use baking soda toothpaste.
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Excellent.

And did you not know that there was an experiments on Wounded Knee in Northwest America next to Russia border with bacteriological warfare responsible for Spanish influenza conducted by Zionists before WW1.

And this is where measles and meningitis derives from.
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Looks like you graduated in microbiology without being familiar with basic arithmetic...
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congratulations, you are only about the 10th person to make that point im a fucking retard, but im sure your indices are perfect after not messing with them for probably 10 years then posting on the internet with an anonymous account that that cant edit after the fact.





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