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I'm a microbiologist, (bacteriology) ask me whatever you want.

 
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Long ago, when my vets first urged me to start vaccinating my dogs for corona virus, I asked if it was absolutely necessary, due my concerns about adjuvants causing cancer. They stressed that corona in dogs was highly contagious and serious in that it could kill the dog. Did you ever come across a dog who had it?
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thats a good question, i like the thinking here, i think corona viruses are dangerous to cats also.
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I wonder where dogs picked it up.
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Cats, Civits, Pneumonic Plague. Fish Market. Fleas. so fleas.
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Plague/s are bacterial. Corona is a virus. I was talking about corona virus and how it came to be that dogs got it. Could be something that goes back thousands of years for all I know. Maybe not, though.
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Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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thats a good question, i like the thinking here, i think corona viruses are dangerous to cats also.
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I wonder where dogs picked it up.
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Cats, Civits, Pneumonic Plague. Fish Market. Fleas. so fleas.
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Plague/s are bacterial. Corona is a virus. I was talking about corona virus and how it came to be that dogs got it. Could be something that goes back thousands of years for all I know. Maybe not, though.
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Since the first identification of the virus in 1971, the disease caused by canine coronavirus (CCoV) has not been adequately investigated, and the role that the virus plays in canine enteric illness has not been well established. Only after the emergence in 2002 of SARS in human has new attention been focused on coronaviruses. As a consequence of the relatively high mutation frequency of RNA-positive stranded viruses, CCoV has evolved and, with the biomolecular techniques developed over the last two decades, new virus strains, serotypes, and subtypes have been identified in infected dogs. Considering the widespread nature of CCoV infections among dog populations, several studies have been carried out, focusing upon the epidemiological relevance of these viruses and underlining the need for further investigation into the biology of CCoVs and into the pathogenetic role of the infections. This paper reports the evolutionary processes of CCoVs with a note onto recent diagnostic methods.


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OP, Designer Biological Weapons. If you were a terrorists would you release in rounds of different agents?

How can someone delivering a biological make it happen?
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Are you still thinking this is pneumonic plague?

He did answer this earlier, looking at the genome sequencing, which I believe is up to 27 done now,

"So hypothetically speaking, if this is a bioweapon (i dont think it is ) its been designed from the ground up, to look like a brand new virus and doesnt show gene activity relating to anything known to be human, it appears to be a bat corona virus thats made a jump to humans."


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I agree on the Pneumonic Plague.
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The problem, of course, is that we have to trust government-linked "healthcare"-- which would have launched the designer disease in the first place--not to be lying about the genomics.
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Probably a larp because non of the information we have seen suggests otherwise, we are not seeing anything related to people hemmoraging in the lungs or anything, but what i gleamed from what tangy posted is that the virus is a novel corona virus thats come from bats. Tangy posted the genome in the thread.

We also dont have any good info yet on how deadly it is, and the r0 numbers are implied to be around 3.5 which is significantly infectious even if it isnt anymore deadly than bad seasonal flu.
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There was a twitter video linked in a diff thread that showed a dude face down on the ground with blood actually in front of his head - so the mechanics looked like he coughed up blood and then fell over dead. I'll see if its still live.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Still going. As for good info... thats never a good sign right? While I'm unfamiliar with pandemic protocols, usually a mums the word can be considered normal.. but this leaves the door open for no ones actually at the door.

Its also too bad the recombinomics.com site seems to be down. Niman was a great source. I was looking for numbers on the last mers outbreak.
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Probably a larp because non of the information we have seen suggests otherwise, we are not seeing anything related to people hemmoraging in the lungs or anything, but what i gleamed from what tangy posted is that the virus is a novel corona virus thats come from bats. Tangy posted the genome in the thread.

We also dont have any good info yet on how deadly it is, and the r0 numbers are implied to be around 3.5 which is significantly infectious even if it isnt anymore deadly than bad seasonal flu.
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There was a twitter video linked in a diff thread that showed a dude face down on the ground with blood actually in front of his head - so the mechanics looked like he coughed up blood and then fell over dead. I'll see if its still live.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Still going. As for good info... thats never a good sign right? While I'm unfamiliar with pandemic protocols, usually a mums the word can be considered normal.. but this leaves the door open for no ones actually at the door.

Its also too bad the recombinomics.com site seems to be down. Niman was a great source. I was looking for numbers on the last mers outbreak.
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[link to twitter.com (secure)]

[link to recombinomics.co]

[link to www.google.com (secure)]

if those help..
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Probably a larp because non of the information we have seen suggests otherwise, we are not seeing anything related to people hemmoraging in the lungs or anything, but what i gleamed from what tangy posted is that the virus is a novel corona virus thats come from bats. Tangy posted the genome in the thread.

We also dont have any good info yet on how deadly it is, and the r0 numbers are implied to be around 3.5 which is significantly infectious even if it isnt anymore deadly than bad seasonal flu.
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There was a twitter video linked in a diff thread that showed a dude face down on the ground with blood actually in front of his head - so the mechanics looked like he coughed up blood and then fell over dead. I'll see if its still live.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Still going. As for good info... thats never a good sign right? While I'm unfamiliar with pandemic protocols, usually a mums the word can be considered normal.. but this leaves the door open for no ones actually at the door.

Its also too bad the recombinomics.com site seems to be down. Niman was a great source. I was looking for numbers on the last mers outbreak.
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[link to twitter.com (secure)]

[link to recombinomics.co]

[link to www.google.com (secure)]

if those help..
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Thank you for those aaand not throwing attitude in lol. I suppose I could've googled him myself..
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Probably a larp because non of the information we have seen suggests otherwise, we are not seeing anything related to people hemmoraging in the lungs or anything, but what i gleamed from what tangy posted is that the virus is a novel corona virus thats come from bats. Tangy posted the genome in the thread.

We also dont have any good info yet on how deadly it is, and the r0 numbers are implied to be around 3.5 which is significantly infectious even if it isnt anymore deadly than bad seasonal flu.
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There was a twitter video linked in a diff thread that showed a dude face down on the ground with blood actually in front of his head - so the mechanics looked like he coughed up blood and then fell over dead. I'll see if its still live.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Still going. As for good info... thats never a good sign right? While I'm unfamiliar with pandemic protocols, usually a mums the word can be considered normal.. but this leaves the door open for no ones actually at the door.

Its also too bad the recombinomics.com site seems to be down. Niman was a great source. I was looking for numbers on the last mers outbreak.
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[link to twitter.com (secure)]

[link to recombinomics.co]

[link to www.google.com (secure)]

if those help..
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Thank you for those aaand not throwing attitude in lol. I suppose I could've googled him myself..
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chuckle
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I'm out for todays guys, its getting late. Ill check back in tomorrow and see what has changed, hopefully we will get some trustworthy info on suspected spread/cases.

I'm hearing confirmed cases is 1975 right now as of 1am, GMT.
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In the thriller staring Matt Damon and Gwyneth Paltrow, a fast-moving mystery virus kills tens of millions worldwide as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention tries in vain to stop the outbreak.

A flashback in the movie shows just how the fictional virus emerged - with a bat in China infecting a pig that was later handled by a chef who came in contact with Paltrow's character, who became Patient Zero.

With a bat now suspected as the origin of the coronavirus outbreak that began in China's Wuhan, fans of the film are now suggesting it may have been darkly prophetic.
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That seems pretty damn fishy if you ask me.
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If we're to look at that movie and characters, we as good GLP'ers should be looking at Jude Law's character who was a championing a particular herb. It had a movie name of Forsythia if I can remember right. Now, what that might be in real life is anyones guess.
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In the thriller staring Matt Damon and Gwyneth Paltrow, a fast-moving mystery virus kills tens of millions worldwide as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention tries in vain to stop the outbreak.

A flashback in the movie shows just how the fictional virus emerged - with a bat in China infecting a pig that was later handled by a chef who came in contact with Paltrow's character, who became Patient Zero.

With a bat now suspected as the origin of the coronavirus outbreak that began in China's Wuhan, fans of the film are now suggesting it may have been darkly prophetic.
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That seems pretty damn fishy if you ask me.
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If we're to look at that movie and characters, we as good GLP'ers should be looking at Jude Law's character who was a championing a particular herb. It had a movie name of Forsythia if I can remember right. Now, what that might be in real life is anyones guess.
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It's a Chinese herb used to treat colds. If that was the cure, I would thing somebody in China would have picked up on that. :)
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I'm a biochemist.

This is overblown bullshit.

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We'll see in a few weeks.


If you really are a microbiologist, you don't know jack shit about viruses.

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Never claimed to be a virologist or mycologist, viruses and funghi were not my scope my field was bacteriology, and i was a lab tech not a researcher i said as such.

I gave my input because i know more than the layman and i was seeing a hell of a lot of crap on the forum here, id suspect if you are a practing biochemist you know a hell of a lot more than i do about viruses.

I did study, haematology, biochemistry, immunology etc as part of my microbiology degree.
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True, we will see in a few weeks.

We've been down this road before. It makes for great headlines and clicks and then is a nothing burger. SARS, et al...

Virology is one of the most interesting things I studied.

Viruses aren't "alive" per se. It's a protein encapsulated RNA/DNA replication machine. It has no purpose other than replication. Even as it reproduces itself, it has no purpose for existence. It makes no logical sense for it to exist.

There aren't,to my knowledge, any antibiotics that are effective against viruses. They aren't "alive" as are bacteria. They are as I described above.

We can wet our pants and get scared shitless or just realize that these exist and boost our immune system to fight them.

Personally, based on my knowledge of viruses....these nasty ones are engineered and then released. Nature has no reason to make them. Deranged men/governments most certainly do.
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China has no regard for human life. They don’t care. You need a heart transplant? Why wait with baited breath for a year to get to the top of the list and be matched when you can make an appointment in China and have your surgery the next day? That’s just one example of how vile the CPC are. Another is the fucking fentanyl and other derivative molecules that they allow to be shipped to Mexico or the US without even a license. I could go on and on.

So given that, and give the monumentally extraordinary measures the chicoms have taken to contain this? Think of the resources required to quarantine 56 million people?

Given the absence of any reliable news and statistics, I’m going to gauge this by watching what the chicoms do, and from what I see they are extremely worried.

That should be the sign for you to at least take this seriously. This ain’t SARS.
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Granted im not a virologist and my virology is very very rusty. I need to clear some stuff up thats been bugging, me though.

People keep stating that the fatality rate of this virus is for example 3.9% because 39/1000 cases have died, thats not how it works at all. 950+ of those cases still have to recover.

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Here is a question for you, genius:

Are you aware that this "Bacillus bacterium" is nothing more than what causes spilt milk which is all over your face, did you know that Bacillus is the latin for rod? which you've been sucking on?
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Here’s one for you, Einstein?

He or she has already established that he/she knows more than 99% of the people on this thread, so let’s not make this into an MCAT study session ok?

Why do you have to quiz him on bacteria when his opinion on viruses and in particular this one is why literally everyone is reading this?
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How true is this statement:

"The CDC’s guidance indicates that people who have casual contact with a case (in the same grocery store or movie theater) are at minimal risk of developing infection."
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I have a dear school friend who's a fed ex air bus pilot who is stuck in Wuhan. How best should we try to get him out of there?
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Tell him to hunker down and when the time comes, try to escape the Chinese army who will eventually go in and shoot all of the survivors so they can’t tell the truth about how bad it really was.

Hope that helps.
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[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
In the thriller staring Matt Damon and Gwyneth Paltrow, a fast-moving mystery virus kills tens of millions worldwide as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention tries in vain to stop the outbreak.

A flashback in the movie shows just how the fictional virus emerged - with a bat in China infecting a pig that was later handled by a chef who came in contact with Paltrow's character, who became Patient Zero.

With a bat now suspected as the origin of the coronavirus outbreak that began in China's Wuhan, fans of the film are now suggesting it may have been darkly prophetic.
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That seems pretty damn fishy if you ask me.
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If we're to look at that movie and characters, we as good GLP'ers should be looking at Jude Law's character who was a championing a particular herb. It had a movie name of Forsythia if I can remember right. Now, what that might be in real life is anyones guess.
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It's a Chinese herb used to treat colds. If that was the cure, I would thing somebody in China would have picked up on that. :)
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Not even joking - I had no idea it was real.
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How true is this statement:

"The CDC’s guidance indicates that people who have casual contact with a case (in the same grocery store or movie theater) are at minimal risk of developing infection."
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I would read this as: run in the other fucking direction. Leave all non-essentials behind, people included.
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How true is this statement:

"The CDC’s guidance indicates that people who have casual contact with a case (in the same grocery store or movie theater) are at minimal risk of developing infection."
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The CDC is just finding out about this virus, they don't know what happening with this virus because it is new. The others who speaking about this said it lives on the solid and porous surface of three days, so if you touch it with your hand you can get it in your mouth or eyes. They didn't know this until it happened, it a virus that can be passed easily because that is what is happening. That is why if it spreads any farther here you wear glove a mask and eye cover, best to not get it on your clothes I would believe. This is from the studies from other countries. The CDC is trying to protect things right now and it not the way to go about it, full-on truth is the only way. CDC has lies many, many times, they also told the congress not to write something up about an epidemic because they didn't want the people to know there is no treatment, they do not have one. I have written about this before on here, since it been a month or more ago, did they already know about this and was already happening in China and it was kept out of the news? Why else would the CDC ask this of Congress?

As far as we know, no other epidemic was going on at the time. The point they don't have treatment for this coronavirus and that kind of the epidemic and we don't have a treatment, so did they have a case or more of this virus before now, I am inclined to think this may be the case. If the had been able to contain it, there would be no problem, only more people got it.

So, downplaying this when people in China are coming down with it outside the city area, I checked this too. China downplayed it, too.

I do not understand why CDC is talking as this unless they fear panic, I don't think that is a good idea.

It seems to be spreading like wildfire, and that a pandemic or epidemic, China is disinfecting all surfaces and the time the disinfecting agent is to be left on the surface to do the job, from one minute up for each type of surface. This last should explain three days it lives on those surfaces.
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monkeys used in the 50's didn't have HIV
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thats not what i said.
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I've been sick with bad colds 3 times since september, im sick right now with a cold, which is mild but ive had extreme fatigue, i normally get a cold perhaps once every 18 months - 2 years, and flu maybe once a decade.

I've pondered if this is already doing the rounds since late last year. Not sure why it would seem so severve in china though, overworked malnourished population? a local mutation?
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One thing about chinese that makes it possibly different than here, They SHARE meals from a single plate in many instances.. They will make beautiful plates of different types, typically have a soup bowl of their own, but will pick up items off a single plate with chopsticks, and even place items into someone else's soup bowl, like for the elderly.
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The chinese have a fucking disgusting diet too.

No matter how beautiful you make the plate of dog look, it's still an obscenity, a gross abomination.

Then all those live sea things...snakes...birds nests...bird spit...and of course bats, just about the most disease ridden mammal ever...

The chinese need to get their act together in oh so many ways.
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I think its a three way tie between the Chinese, Hindus, and the Pakis as the grand masters of dirty, filthy, disease ridden scum.
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I did two masters degrees with all of those types of people and frankly I think the Hindus are the nastiest because they don’t bathe.

In college and universities in the US, these people (Chinese, pakis and Hindus) rent apartment units together. There might end up being 50 of them living in a 2 bedroom apartment. They put mattresses without sheets all over every square foot if floor space, and there are hot pots everywhere. They are like hives. The Chinese I knew weren’t as bad as the other two. Sure they stank of garlic and didn’t brush their teeth, but they didn’t have curry oozing out of their poors like the Hindus. The pakis were just nasty. No hygiene. I was worried they weren’t using toilet paper and instead using their left hands. Stuff like that.

Granted most of the Chinese I knew were ethnic Chinese from Singapore and KL, so they weren’t as bad.

I would say the Hindus smelled the worst and the pakis just overall had the worst hygiene.

The Chinese weren’t as bad unless you considered the hives they lived in like the others....then it’s hard to quantify a winner.
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we really need a immunologist or at the very least a virologist.
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yes we do, but since half the threads on this forum were people talking absolute crap i figured id step up and try to answer any basic questions about whats going on and why there is so much concern.
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One thing about chinese that makes it possibly different than here, They SHARE meals from a single plate in many instances.. They will make beautiful plates of different types, typically have a soup bowl of their own, but will pick up items off a single plate with chopsticks, and even place items into someone else's soup bowl, like for the elderly.
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The chinese have a fucking disgusting diet too.

No matter how beautiful you make the plate of dog look, it's still an obscenity, a gross abomination.

Then all those live sea things...snakes...birds nests...bird spit...and of course bats, just about the most disease ridden mammal ever...

The chinese need to get their act together in oh so many ways.
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I think its a three way tie between the Chinese, Hindus, and the Pakis as the grand masters of dirty, filthy, disease ridden scum.
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Oh, I almost forgot.

American Blacks

They're dirty filthy scum in their own right...
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Please don’t get me started.

Public service announcement:

If you’re watching pornhub and see a white girl you know taking a bbc, it’s your duty to write the name of the girl down and to warn as many other white men as possible so they don’t follow in his tracks.

I’m convinced this is why Lindsay Vonn is with the dude from the NHL. No respectable white guy would touch her after Tiger went there.
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Long ago, when my vets first urged me to start vaccinating my dogs for corona virus, I asked if it was absolutely necessary, due my concerns about adjuvants causing cancer. They stressed that corona in dogs was highly contagious and serious in that it could kill the dog. Did you ever come across a dog who had it?
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thats a good question, i like the thinking here, i think corona viruses are dangerous to cats also.
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I wonder where dogs picked it up.
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its not one virus but a morphology, coronaviridae, they look like little spikey balls.
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I'm sticking with Pneumonic Plague. Dammit. LOL

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From the information thats been officially released there is nothing to suggest anything like this.

But I also suspect this is biological weaponry based on other covert moves and world events at the time 2nd week in December. Even the Pope was aware of the threat, Chinese woman hand grab.

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I was a micro (bacteriology) lab tech, i basically worked with bacteria in prep fashion for research once id completed university, that kind of speculation would be way out of my scope and education level, looking at the sequencing information thats been published it just looks to my underqualified ass ( i did some genetic engineering ) that its a bat corona virus thats jumped to humans, its new, which isnt good, it doesnt have to be a man made biological weapon, its already natures biological weapon.

Corona is safe for MSM. Plague is a dangerous word.

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Corona is basically just the virus shape, there are countless corona viruses, a few of which in humans at least cause the common cold, this chinese corona virus seems to be thus far a bat respiratory virus thats jumped to humans and because its new our immune system isnt particulary familiar with anything like it.
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I'm out for todays guys, its getting late. Ill check back in tomorrow and see what has changed, hopefully we will get some trustworthy info on suspected spread/cases.

I'm hearing confirmed cases is 1975 right now as of 1am, GMT.
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Thanks for the thread and answering so many questions!

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No worries, ill repeat again, im not any kind of expert on viruses, but i at least have a background for years in handling and working with micro organisms, i was getting frustrated with posts on the internet and here with people talking absolute crap, so i figured, hell, i can at least try and clear up some confusion about some of this till somebody better comes along.

Was kind of hoping somebody with post grad education in immunology or virology would come along, id love to chat with a virology phd now, i knew a girl who was an expert in pox viruses, ive not spoken to her for years and i dont do the facebook thing.
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How can someone delivering a biological make it happen?
 Quoting: MissCleo


Probably hundreds of creative ways.

Fleas/ticks or waterbourne or vapour imo, could leave a suitcase full of infected fleas/ticks in a crowded public place only need a few dozen people to get bitten.
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Peritonitis?! So corona or, at least, the feline variety, is intestinal and/or abdominal, whereas in people it's respiratory? Is it respiratory in dogs?
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corona is just a morphology of viruses, they are known in different animal species including humans to causes anything from respiratory issues, to abdominal issues etc.
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Can you make a vaccine for shills and tards we have a pandemic on glp and really need your help
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Its amazing how many people either dont read, or indeed do read or get fixated on one phrase taken out of context or a typo or misconstrued or critiqe what they thought they read, not what they actually read.

I should have asked the admin to change the thread title to microbiology tech tbh, because not actually being involved in research means i wasnt actually a microbiologist even though i probably spend thousands of hours in a lab with microbes, not sure the semantics are super important though considing in other threads people have been arguing that 'lol its just the flu, why yall panicing'

Cant please everybody, i figured id stand in till somebody way more qualified comes along because i was getting frustrated with the bad information.
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What is the rate of both infection and mortality with ordinary flu? Remember that Spanish flue came on the heels of WWI and many soldiers got sick in the trenches (horrendous conditions) and spread it when they were sent home. I doubt even China is an incubator of that magnitude.
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It appears at the moment that this is at least comparable to spanish flu in its mortality and infeciousness, but the difference now to 100 years ago is we are globally connected and this virus has 4x as many people to infect as the global population is much higher.
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Just having a look at these, i figured macrophage responce in lung tissue will be an important factor in respiratory corona virus interaction, as this appears a novel virus as its jumped from bats and is new to our immune system, i presume the immune system panics with this particular corona virus, i hope the rumours of cytokine storms in healthy people is not true.
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There are actually 7 corona viruses linked to humans. Previously just 6.
 Quoting: Tangy


Probably more than that, those are just the ones we know about.





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