I'm a microbiologist, (bacteriology) ask me whatever you want.

Long ago, when my vets first urged me to start vaccinating my dogs for corona virus, I asked if it was absolutely necessary, due my concerns about adjuvants causing cancer. They stressed that corona in dogs was highly contagious and serious in that it could kill the dog. Did you ever come across a dog who had it?

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Thats an interesting question which might relate to what i just posted about surface antigens/enzymes on influenza strains.

If one of the mechanisms by which this corona viruses spreads is related to blood typing then sure, different blood grouping might play a factor in immune responce to this virus, that would be entirely hypothetical though.

Personally i would speculate that since this virus appears to be a bat respiratory virus, something novel about this virus is related to respiratory tissue receptors.

Not sure exactly how this virus is spreading though, im making an asumption a primary route is via droplet inhalation and via the respiratory system, it might be biologically active in other ways, some people have suggsted it has a route in via your eyes too, which would make sense also as the skin is very thin also around the eyelids (look at your capiliaries in the mirror under your eyelid)

It could just be that the virus attachment is preferable just like any route that generally is facilitated by a thin dermis, ie the respiratory system, your eyelids both being factors factors here.

fascinating..

related I think

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YES.. I have seen many, mostly puppies.. it's really sad.. And has a smell all it's own.. It's survivable, but yes HIGHLY contagious, and good to protect against. I am not a fan of vaccines.

Thought that was an interesting question, for sure.

It would appear that there IS some protection from some
of these manufactured viruses due to the fact that if
you are going to TARGET WORLD POPULATIONS the majority
of people have Rh+ blood types. It would be logical that
they wouldn't put the effort into manufacturing TWO
VIRUSES just because they couldn't really pinpoint where
in the world (except Spain for example) the Rh- blood types
lived.

I believe that Rh- blood types also have a LOWER CANCER RATE
just due to the fact that there was an actual study into
the people who contracted cancer from the POLIO VACCINES
back in the 1950's and 60's...with the Rh- blood types
having a lower infection rate. Here is a thread that
gives the report about the Cancer gene embedded in the
POLIO VACCINE. (Dr. Mary's Monkey--the recent book--will
knock your socks off in showing a connect-the-dot-link
between the exposure of this "black-ops project" to use
"weaponized cancer" to kill Castro and the assassination
of J.F.K. (who most likely was trying to stop the project.)
Wild shit.
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We'll see in this case since "all bets are OFF" with
how this was manufactured (if indeed it WAS "created"
and didn't "Mutate.")


O'sCookie



(from "Alien Covenant" the movie.)

Never even heard of it

Zovirax is aclovir right, might be something specific about its activity against herpes viruses.

Why is no one talking about this ;

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analysis by the Wuhan Institute team found that it enters human cells using the same doorway that SARS did. Called angiotensin converting enzyme 2 (ACE2), the door is a receptor to which a “spike protein” on the virus’s surface first attaches and then enables the virus to fuse with the host cell.

If ACE2 is “druggable,” blocking it could conceivably treat 2019-nCoV. “It should be expected and worth to test if ACE2 targeting … drugs can be used for nCoV-2019 patients,” the scientists wrote.

The genome sequences have more to give. They “will be crucially important for development of diagnostics [and] vaccines,” said biologist Richard Ebright of Rutgers University.

same link I've posted before.

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He knew too much bro.

You are obviously legit. I believe you. I have a degree in biochemistry and would also have one in cellular biology if I had taken just one additional credit of field biology lab. Started my career 30 years ago in public health, including having our own micro' lab and doing epidemiology. I also believe Dr. Fiegl-Ding's warnings. This one is different and has great potential for pandemic. Many more are going to become ill and at least 3% are going die. I left my office within 30 minutes of the confirmed case in Seattle to buy surgical masks at Walgreens in case me or my employees need them. They had about 100 in stock. I bought 75.

hong kong phooey, number 1 super guy, quicker than the human eye? not seen that show since i was a kid, i recall him being inept, wasnt the cat the real hero of the show?

Thanks for offering your expertise.

My questions:

1) Some have speculated that this virus accidentally escaped from the Wuhan level 4 Bio-lab. If true, and this is a bio-weapon, would it be reasonable to assume the Chinese also developed an antidote or vaccine?
If not, how long to develop a vaccine (or treatment), would you estimate?

2) Spanish has only 1 "n". sorry, that wasn't a question.

3) Seems to me that there is no chance to stop this disease if it spreads like a common cold. Is there a scenario where this can be stopped at this point? Supposedly these viruses mutate a lot. But would those mutations simply dead-end and the initial dangerous strain prevail since it is the more successful variant?

4) I have heard that the serious cases include a polio like paralysis. (perhaps explaining the video of a man doing a face plant on the sidewalk. Does it have a polio like paralysis effect? or is this simply a function of each individual's immune system as to whether it conducts an autoimmune attack on one's oown nerves?

5) This is supposedly adept at jumping species. Is there a list of other species that can carry and transmit the virus? And another list of species that can't?

6) If China has a cure or a vaccine, do you think they would withhold it to save face? Or maybe with hold it for a credible amout of time, then announce their "breakthrough". :)

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IIRC (and I may not!), the bacterial cause of stomach ulcers was suspected by a british/aus(?) common or garden GP.

To prove his theory, he infected himself with the bacteria and soon developed stomach ulcers. He promptly treated himself with antibiotics and cured it.

Brave guy. Deserves a medical oscar!

cant believe that guy used to play heavy gauge strings like 11's and 12's, shame he died.

Not sure, but it sounds like he was more working on global medical care for all, rather than testing or discovering disease. I may be wrong.. For many years there have been mysterious deaths. My brain is 9823734 different directions right now. What was the cause of death?

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Best home remedies for neutralizing cytokine storm...?

Theive's oil (mixture)? Other oils? Heavy dosage of Vitamin C serum?

Something else...?

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Sigh

This is incorrect

Thank you

no im afraid.

So how often do you do partisan research and partisan facts?

ie. this lovely new virus. Anyone questioned you about it and the hype around it?


Do you find it odd that its emerged for the senate trial? Is scientific funding often a political motivated arena?

Do you think mutation is something that enhances a virus or does it, just water it down like it did with the Swine flu?

Many of us aren't buying the hype, it looks like a mortality rate similar to the flu.

How do you think it will compare to the common cold/flu pneumonia rates?

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Way to early to speculate whats going on here, i dont know if the blood was from a head injury here or what is going on, we dont have any info on if these people were immune compromised or had issues like asthma, copd etc.

thats a good question, i like the thinking here, i think corona viruses are dangerous to cats also.

I am a lab tech. I work in a microbiology lab.
That doesn’t make me a fucking microbiologist
You are probably just a bench tech that plates throat swabs and shit

That makes total sense, im loosely aware of angiotensin, my immunology is real rusty too these days.

But something targeting its attachment would be a good cure/prevention as i alluded. Ill have to read up on that mechanism and its simularity to the SARs mechanism.

What's your endgame OP. We we are Fragged why not just come out and say it.

The best way to "beat" any bacteria or virus is to simply have a healthy immune system. All this talk of special nutrition and or exotic cures is just bull crap.

The human body is amazing, and can defeat anything thrown at it...if you are healthy and get plenty of sleep.

This includes everything from cancer to the common cold.

But, there is another crucial step to make this work. You need to catch a very low 'dose' of the intruder and then get plenty of sleep and water. Rest will cure a tremendous amount of ailments of this type. While sleeping, the body can battle the intruders, and with unknown invaders, it will take a little time to figure out how to kill this unique infiltrator.

The problem is, in modern society, people don't have enough time to sleep through an invasion. Jobs, family, and other needs force us to get up and therefore not be in bed. And when I suggest being in bed and/or asleep...I mean for a week; possibly more. Do that, and your immune system will figure out how to kill the intruder and from then on it will be easy to defeat that particular attack.

Rest, sleep, and water + a catching a low dose of the invasion works, but a sudden heavy dose of infection will overwhelm the immune system.

I guess on this thread we all have our ideas on how to deal with the common cold, because that is what this is, a super-charged common cold. The very young and elderly will have trouble. Everyone who is working too hard will have trouble. But just watch, some people will have no problem. Why?