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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84063713 Australia 09/12/2022 02:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a fine line between love and hate when confused cross the line Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84063713 i get that. but how does one love then not? You switch from love to hate ,not in a violent way, but in a theres plenty more fish in the ocean way, mind you Ive never had a soul partner all ive ever dated is Linda Blair from the exorcist I gave up decades ago i guess my antiquated belief systems are the fairytale. unrealistic in these days. i got friends who've been married 30yrs ++ not many say like 5 from high school so it does exist. my kids went from relationship to relationship --like asn assembly line. my daughter got with her high school prim date guy. hes wonderful. ime n my son told her if she fucks it up we're keepn him. son broke uo with his baby mamma. told him hes gotta be real. hes like me tho --- they say it takes 2...but from what i see these ppl are not real. theyre in the moment. All the guys that married their high school sweathearts are still married 40 years later those that didnt well its cost them millions in assets and child support |
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User ID: 76016774 Australia 09/12/2022 02:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It sounds like you were in love with a narcissist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74195727 They love bomb, make you believe your love is so unique and then when you no longer serve them, they discard of you just as easily. You loved what you thought it was. Definitely disillusionment. Based on the actions...this. Narcissistic and other cluster B types can really fuck with your head until you learn what's going on. Add to that the general devaluation of humans across society as little more then 1s and 0s to generate money and what that kind of mentality does to empathy and the like... thats fucked up Do some google of cluster B, so of it matches. Oh, and for your question of "where do they come from" They're made. Typically a parent will have the same disorder going on - Sins of the father and all that - and a child will copy and take those behaviours as "normal". *Glitches May Occur. Consume(D) At Own Risk |
Phennommennonn
(OP) Forum Administrator 09/12/2022 02:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i wrote this on newsbreak. im the orig author no copyright infringement. i post without compensation or promotion. Quoting: Phennommennonn where does the love go when the relationship is over? The story herein is non-fiction; true events that occurred in my life. Where does the love go when a relationship is over? Is love just a temporary, quintessential emotion? The best of relationships create tons of passionate electricity, a bonding connection, with laughter and some tears. Then when it's over, often nothing remains but memories. Is love generated from oneself?. Do "we" create a state of mind and feeling from the interactions we have with another person?. Does love abide independent of our own feelings, bodies, chemical reactions, and the situation that creates it?. The loss of a love, it's one of the most profound types of pain we can feel. One grieves in the same manner as a physical death but it may manifest in other directions. Rejection is an acrimonious bitter pill. There is an anguishing distress in your heart every single time you think about them, or hear a song on the radio, or come across something of a reminder of them. You experienced pinnacles of happiness when you are with them, and now when they leave, you experience a nadir of torment in sadness. Some couples have demonstrated decades of longevity, i.e. golden anniversaries, and their love remains unyielding. Some have the life-long commitment, but are trapped in a loveless relationship. Many relationships that I have observed start off as that some kind of wonderful, however once the "honeymoon period" has worn off, the relationship wans and they break up. They tend to move on, and begin new relationships. Some I've seen equate to that of an assembly line, going from one relationship to another. Was it really love they were experiencing? The definition of love is in essence 'an intense feeling of deep affection or admiration'. It is unconditional, non-judgmental, and selfless. How can one feel so deeply for another, and then not? My story began 42 years ago. A man I fell in love with while I was still in high school, was the brother of a good friend. We were together a few years. 1980-83. My parents loved him, and he treated me well. He had bought me a promise ring, with the intent we would marry once he graduated from truck driving school, and me from dental school. One day, I had called him and he wasn't home. I called for a week, and the response was the same. I finally drove to his house, and received the news from his kid brother. The love of my life went to Florida, and nobody knew how to reach him. Needless to say, I was devastated. I had no clue he was going to leave me. The last night we were together was a normal evening for us both. For 36 years I carried this loss with me. My life post 1983 was a void. I lived, I existed but I emotionally was rendered an empty shell. Meanwhile, I had married twice to men I didn't love, and had 2 children. I have an antiquated belief system, where you only get one great love in a lifetime. There is no past tense in love. I could "love", but not be IN LOVE with someone. That was predominantly the reason why these marriages didn't work. These men knew how I felt pre-marriage. 36 years later he and I met again. His sister needed legal & other assistance with her parents estate at a time when I was visiting my former hometown. He claimed he didn't "remember" why he left me years ago. My heart forgave him and we renewed our relationship. It was the fairy-tale come true. I was finally getting my happy ending. He promised me he would never hurt me again. He promised he would never leave me again. He said the reason he was still single and had never married, was because he was waiting for me all his life. I was 'the one' he said. The way he would look at me, was as if he was looking at me for the very first time. I saw the 'love' in his facial expressions. His eyes reflected the love. *I've since questioned myself; did I see what I wanted to see? On my birthday he gave me a card which was the most beautiful card I ever read. The love I feel for him consumed every fiber of my being. I need him to breathe. My life is defined by him. He returned the sentiment, or so I believed. I deduce, when you're IN LOVE, you can "feel" it. Or is that a blind attribute? Disillusionment? My definition of REAL love is being ridiculous, inconvenient, consuming, can't-live-without-each-other love. Two months after he gave me that card for my birthday, we were married. It was just us in a small ceremony. It was romantic. I was ecstatic. I was going to grow old with the love of my life. The "perfect" storybook romance. It didn't matter to me that he didn't have "money" (saved). I would have lived in a cardboard box with him. I was proud of him. He had many faults, however I loved him regardless. As long as we had each other, that was the greater rich for me. Love trumps money in my opinion. By July, a mere 3 months after we were married, it was over as he threw me away. He broke every promise he made to me - again. He was flippant & acted as if we weren't real. What happened? How do you go from professing eternal love and commitment to a "bye, see ya" disposition? I was left with a 3 month marriage & unrequited love. I begged him to provide me with an explanation, however he couldn't break from the constraints of his egocentric mentality. Has love become disposable? I was wrecked. He broke me a second time. I'm damaged goods. He emotionally paralyzed me. I should hate him but I an unable. I am a pragmatist, and I cannot come up with an explanation as to why he left me again. He had once questioned my integrity, as to why I married twice and where I admittedly didn't love these men. Here he did the same with me. Was this my karma? The last 4 years I have beaten myself up, trying to figure out how one could love another one minute, then not love the next. From June of 2016 to July of 2018 I showed him everyday how much I loved him. I did everything to please him. I ask myself everyday, 'what did I do in my life, that was so horrible, to deserve this?'. I'm a good person, generous/giving, smart, highly intelligent; for age 58 I'm considered good looking, with a head for business & as "bod" for sin. I'm highly respected and have a stellar reputation. If he called me tomorrow and apologized, in all probability the odds in me taking him back are 100%. I'd rather have 15 minutes of wonderful, than a lifetime of nothing special. The last 4 years I rose like the phoenix from the ashes, and rebuilt my life. I'm financially stable and spend my time helping people through activism & advocacy. I keep myself busy. I love him to this day. I remain IN LOVE with him. I cannot date anyone either. I'll never marry again. My heart will forever be restless, until I know, where does the love go? In 1993, the band Haddaway asked the world, “What is Love?” I’m not sure if he ever got his answer. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] You're way way way way attached to material life and processing everything on a material level. Your post proves it enough. I don't say this to be an ass or to tempt you to bane me. Your post shows that your understanding of love is rooted in the same way that you cognitively understand material existence. "When love is 'gone', where does 'it' 'go'?" Shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what love actually is. Love is not matter. It is not made of atoms, molecules, subatomic particles etc. You'll never ever ever ever find it with sensors that detect physical matter. Therefore, love cannot 'go' anywhere. Love is not 'anywhere' to begin with. That also means that love cannot be 'gone' in the first place. So: (logic time - use if:then statements to define reality based on your current knowledge/understanding. This will flush out contradicting ideas) If: love can never go anywhere else, never be gone, And: love is also not something material, And: assuming that love is a real phenomenon and not just imagined, Then: it is reasonable to conclude that love exists everywhere, all the time, without end. u lost me. ive read its chemical. a harvard paper. but yet where does it go?? Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 09/12/2022 07:23 AM political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84180363 Switzerland 09/12/2022 03:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It sounds like you were in love with a narcissist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74195727 They love bomb, make you believe your love is so unique and then when you no longer serve them, they discard of you just as easily. You loved what you thought it was. Definitely disillusionment. Based on the actions...this. Narcissistic and other cluster B types can really fuck with your head until you learn what's going on. Add to that the general devaluation of humans across society as little more then 1s and 0s to generate money and what that kind of mentality does to empathy and the like... do you go around slappin these labels on everyone who doesn't worship the ground you stand on? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44573498 United States 09/12/2022 03:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It sounds like you were in love with a narcissist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74195727 They love bomb, make you believe your love is so unique and then when you no longer serve them, they discard of you just as easily. You loved what you thought it was. Definitely disillusionment. I would say psychopath. rather than narcissist - primarily because of the "disappearing act" behavior. But I am not a psychiatrist, so... please, read this [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] Dr. Hare is the world's leading expert on psychopathy... If you have in fact been the victim of one, you MUST come to grips with the fact that they are NOT HUMAN. One psychiatrist accurately characterized them as "intra-species predators" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84028190 Australia 09/12/2022 03:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i wrote this on newsbreak. im the orig author no copyright infringement. i post without compensation or promotion. Quoting: Phennommennonn where does the love go when the relationship is over? The story herein is non-fiction; true events that occurred in my life. Where does the love go when a relationship is over? Is love just a temporary, quintessential emotion? The best of relationships create tons of passionate electricity, a bonding connection, with laughter and some tears. Then when it's over, often nothing remains but memories. Is love generated from oneself?. Do "we" create a state of mind and feeling from the interactions we have with another person?. Does love abide independent of our own feelings, bodies, chemical reactions, and the situation that creates it?. The loss of a love, it's one of the most profound types of pain we can feel. One grieves in the same manner as a physical death but it may manifest in other directions. Rejection is an acrimonious bitter pill. There is an anguishing distress in your heart every single time you think about them, or hear a song on the radio, or come across something of a reminder of them. You experienced pinnacles of happiness when you are with them, and now when they leave, you experience a nadir of torment in sadness. Some couples have demonstrated decades of longevity, i.e. golden anniversaries, and their love remains unyielding. Some have the life-long commitment, but are trapped in a loveless relationship. Many relationships that I have observed start off as that some kind of wonderful, however once the "honeymoon period" has worn off, the relationship wans and they break up. They tend to move on, and begin new relationships. Some I've seen equate to that of an assembly line, going from one relationship to another. Was it really love they were experiencing? The definition of love is in essence 'an intense feeling of deep affection or admiration'. It is unconditional, non-judgmental, and selfless. How can one feel so deeply for another, and then not? My story began 42 years ago. A man I fell in love with while I was still in high school, was the brother of a good friend. We were together a few years. 1980-83. My parents loved him, and he treated me well. He had bought me a promise ring, with the intent we would marry once he graduated from truck driving school, and me from dental school. One day, I had called him and he wasn't home. I called for a week, and the response was the same. I finally drove to his house, and received the news from his kid brother. The love of my life went to Florida, and nobody knew how to reach him. Needless to say, I was devastated. I had no clue he was going to leave me. The last night we were together was a normal evening for us both. For 36 years I carried this loss with me. My life post 1983 was a void. I lived, I existed but I emotionally was rendered an empty shell. Meanwhile, I had married twice to men I didn't love, and had 2 children. I have an antiquated belief system, where you only get one great love in a lifetime. There is no past tense in love. I could "love", but not be IN LOVE with someone. That was predominantly the reason why these marriages didn't work. These men knew how I felt pre-marriage. 36 years later he and I met again. His sister needed legal & other assistance with her parents estate at a time when I was visiting my former hometown. He claimed he didn't "remember" why he left me years ago. My heart forgave him and we renewed our relationship. It was the fairy-tale come true. I was finally getting my happy ending. He promised me he would never hurt me again. He promised he would never leave me again. He said the reason he was still single and had never married, was because he was waiting for me all his life. I was 'the one' he said. The way he would look at me, was as if he was looking at me for the very first time. I saw the 'love' in his facial expressions. His eyes reflected the love. *I've since questioned myself; did I see what I wanted to see? On my birthday he gave me a card which was the most beautiful card I ever read. The love I feel for him consumed every fiber of my being. I need him to breathe. My life is defined by him. He returned the sentiment, or so I believed. I deduce, when you're IN LOVE, you can "feel" it. Or is that a blind attribute? Disillusionment? My definition of REAL love is being ridiculous, inconvenient, consuming, can't-live-without-each-other love. Two months after he gave me that card for my birthday, we were married. It was just us in a small ceremony. It was romantic. I was ecstatic. I was going to grow old with the love of my life. The "perfect" storybook romance. It didn't matter to me that he didn't have "money" (saved). I would have lived in a cardboard box with him. I was proud of him. He had many faults, however I loved him regardless. As long as we had each other, that was the greater rich for me. Love trumps money in my opinion. By July, a mere 3 months after we were married, it was over as he threw me away. He broke every promise he made to me - again. He was flippant & acted as if we weren't real. What happened? How do you go from professing eternal love and commitment to a "bye, see ya" disposition? I was left with a 3 month marriage & unrequited love. I begged him to provide me with an explanation, however he couldn't break from the constraints of his egocentric mentality. Has love become disposable? I was wrecked. He broke me a second time. I'm damaged goods. He emotionally paralyzed me. I should hate him but I an unable. I am a pragmatist, and I cannot come up with an explanation as to why he left me again. He had once questioned my integrity, as to why I married twice and where I admittedly didn't love these men. Here he did the same with me. Was this my karma? The last 4 years I have beaten myself up, trying to figure out how one could love another one minute, then not love the next. From June of 2016 to July of 2018 I showed him everyday how much I loved him. I did everything to please him. I ask myself everyday, 'what did I do in my life, that was so horrible, to deserve this?'. I'm a good person, generous/giving, smart, highly intelligent; for age 58 I'm considered good looking, with a head for business & as "bod" for sin. I'm highly respected and have a stellar reputation. If he called me tomorrow and apologized, in all probability the odds in me taking him back are 100%. I'd rather have 15 minutes of wonderful, than a lifetime of nothing special. The last 4 years I rose like the phoenix from the ashes, and rebuilt my life. I'm financially stable and spend my time helping people through activism & advocacy. I keep myself busy. I love him to this day. I remain IN LOVE with him. I cannot date anyone either. I'll never marry again. My heart will forever be restless, until I know, where does the love go? In 1993, the band Haddaway asked the world, “What is Love?” I’m not sure if he ever got his answer. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] You're way way way way attached to material life and processing everything on a material level. Your post proves it enough. I don't say this to be an ass or to tempt you to bane me. Your post shows that your understanding of love is rooted in the same way that you cognitively understand material existence. "When love is 'gone', where does 'it' 'go'?" Shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what love actually is. Love is not matter. It is not made of atoms, molecules, subatomic particles etc. You'll never ever ever ever find it with sensors that detect physical matter. Therefore, love cannot 'go' anywhere. Love is not 'anywhere' to begin with. That also means that love cannot be 'gone' in the first place. So: (logic time - use if:then statements to define reality based on your current knowledge/understanding. This will flush out contradicting ideas) If: love can never go anywhere else, never be gone, And: love is also not something material, And: assuming that love is a real phenomenon and not just imagined, Then: it is reasonable to conclude that love exists everywhere, all the time, without end. u lost me. ive read its chemical. a harvard paper. but yet where does it go?? It doesn't 'go' anywhere. It's not a physical object. When you turn off a radio, where does the music go? When you blow out a candle, where does the fire go? It ceases to be. Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 09/12/2022 07:24 AM |
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Housedad
GOD User ID: 80330863 United States 09/12/2022 03:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for sharing that, Phen. I offer my condolences of course, and sadness for the loss you feel. I can only liken it to the idea of me losing my wife of 37 years. I dread the thought as agony. I wish I could answer that question, 'Where does the love go.' In my own naivete, I just don't know yet. There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT! -Men in Black |
Sol-tari
User ID: 76016774 Australia 09/12/2022 03:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It sounds like you were in love with a narcissist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74195727 They love bomb, make you believe your love is so unique and then when you no longer serve them, they discard of you just as easily. You loved what you thought it was. Definitely disillusionment. Based on the actions...this. Narcissistic and other cluster B types can really fuck with your head until you learn what's going on. Add to that the general devaluation of humans across society as little more then 1s and 0s to generate money and what that kind of mentality does to empathy and the like... do you go around slappin these labels on everyone who doesn't worship the ground you stand on? Of course If people don't worship me and do exactly as I say, even if I don't tell them, then I'll discard them (Insight into a narc mind) But no. A parent who I cut contact with is the only one I'd slap the label on. We all have our narcissistic moments, but that's a far cry from being a full narc. Of course...a narc would never admit they have selfish moments... so maybe I'm just a clever narc.. *Glitches May Occur. Consume(D) At Own Risk |
Phennommennonn
(OP) Forum Administrator 09/12/2022 03:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It sounds like you were in love with a narcissist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74195727 They love bomb, make you believe your love is so unique and then when you no longer serve them, they discard of you just as easily. You loved what you thought it was. Definitely disillusionment. Based on the actions...this. Narcissistic and other cluster B types can really fuck with your head until you learn what's going on. Add to that the general devaluation of humans across society as little more then 1s and 0s to generate money and what that kind of mentality does to empathy and the like... thats fucked up Do some google of cluster B, so of it matches. Oh, and for your question of "where do they come from" They're made. Typically a parent will have the same disorder going on - Sins of the father and all that - and a child will copy and take those behaviours as "normal". his parents were fucked up. theyre j. really fucked up, all 4 kids hated them. i took care of his mother bc dad die. i was sick in NY gettn treatment. none of them would take care of mommy. she didnt like me 40yrs ago bc i was italian/catholic. she adored me back in 16 didnt remember how she didnt like me back then. kides said she was critical n mean. one kid woukdnt lket her see her grandkids. i got the emails. disheartening. allison was as prick to her mother. brian refused to help them. gart CHARGED his father to take him to dr appts. i could never do this to mny parents. they also STOLE from them. long story but the judge ripped into them leaving the parents destitute. **conservatorship bc of the theft. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84026375 Hong Kong 09/12/2022 03:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DO you ask: Where does the pain go once you leave the dentist? Where does the sadness go once you're done crying? Where does the happiness go once you go back to normal?? "Love" is simply an emotion. Nothing more. Emotions come and go, like stomach pain, like a rash etc. Where's the logic in your Q? There's none! Non sequitur |
Phennommennonn
(OP) Forum Administrator 09/12/2022 03:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It sounds like you were in love with a narcissist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74195727 They love bomb, make you believe your love is so unique and then when you no longer serve them, they discard of you just as easily. You loved what you thought it was. Definitely disillusionment. I would say psychopath. rather than narcissist - primarily because of the "disappearing act" behavior. But I am not a psychiatrist, so... please, read this [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] Dr. Hare is the world's leading expert on psychopathy... If you have in fact been the victim of one, you MUST come to grips with the fact that they are NOT HUMAN. One psychiatrist accurately characterized them as "intra-species predators" holy shit political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84180363 Switzerland 09/12/2022 03:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It sounds like you were in love with a narcissist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74195727 They love bomb, make you believe your love is so unique and then when you no longer serve them, they discard of you just as easily. You loved what you thought it was. Definitely disillusionment. Based on the actions...this. Narcissistic and other cluster B types can really fuck with your head until you learn what's going on. Add to that the general devaluation of humans across society as little more then 1s and 0s to generate money and what that kind of mentality does to empathy and the like... do you go around slappin these labels on everyone who doesn't worship the ground you stand on? Of course If people don't worship me and do exactly as I say, even if I don't tell them, then I'll discard them (Insight into a narc mind) But no. A parent who I cut contact with is the only one I'd slap the label on. We all have our narcissistic moments, but that's a far cry from being a full narc. Of course...a narc would never admit they have selfish moments... so maybe I'm just a clever narc.. :jackfingers: lol, the narc trap.. Ive perused the latest DSM-V 5 and come to the conclusion that everyone is sick on one level or another.. I have diagnosed my self as ODD (oppositional Defiance Disorder) and SAD (Social Anxiety Disorder). maybe I need to add NARC to my list and wear it as a badge.. Hi, Im.. Im ODD, SAD and a Narc... Nice to meet you... |
Phennommennonn
(OP) Forum Administrator 09/12/2022 03:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for sharing that, Phen. Quoting: Housedad I offer my condolences of course, and sadness for the loss you feel. I can only liken it to the idea of me losing my wife of 37 years. I dread the thought as agony. I wish I could answer that question, 'Where does the love go.' In my own naivete, I just don't know yet. nobody can answer this political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82526991 Australia 09/12/2022 03:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i wrote this on newsbreak. im the orig author no copyright infringement. i post without compensation or promotion. Quoting: Phennommennonn where does the love go when the relationship is over? The story herein is non-fiction; true events that occurred in my life. Where does the love go when a relationship is over? Is love just a temporary, quintessential emotion? The best of relationships create tons of passionate electricity, a bonding connection, with laughter and some tears. Then when it's over, often nothing remains but memories. Is love generated from oneself?. Do "we" create a state of mind and feeling from the interactions we have with another person?. Does love abide independent of our own feelings, bodies, chemical reactions, and the situation that creates it?. The loss of a love, it's one of the most profound types of pain we can feel. One grieves in the same manner as a physical death but it may manifest in other directions. Rejection is an acrimonious bitter pill. There is an anguishing distress in your heart every single time you think about them, or hear a song on the radio, or come across something of a reminder of them. You experienced pinnacles of happiness when you are with them, and now when they leave, you experience a nadir of torment in sadness. Some couples have demonstrated decades of longevity, i.e. golden anniversaries, and their love remains unyielding. Some have the life-long commitment, but are trapped in a loveless relationship. Many relationships that I have observed start off as that some kind of wonderful, however once the "honeymoon period" has worn off, the relationship wans and they break up. They tend to move on, and begin new relationships. Some I've seen equate to that of an assembly line, going from one relationship to another. Was it really love they were experiencing? The definition of love is in essence 'an intense feeling of deep affection or admiration'. It is unconditional, non-judgmental, and selfless. How can one feel so deeply for another, and then not? My story began 42 years ago. A man I fell in love with while I was still in high school, was the brother of a good friend. We were together a few years. 1980-83. My parents loved him, and he treated me well. He had bought me a promise ring, with the intent we would marry once he graduated from truck driving school, and me from dental school. One day, I had called him and he wasn't home. I called for a week, and the response was the same. I finally drove to his house, and received the news from his kid brother. The love of my life went to Florida, and nobody knew how to reach him. Needless to say, I was devastated. I had no clue he was going to leave me. The last night we were together was a normal evening for us both. For 36 years I carried this loss with me. My life post 1983 was a void. I lived, I existed but I emotionally was rendered an empty shell. Meanwhile, I had married twice to men I didn't love, and had 2 children. I have an antiquated belief system, where you only get one great love in a lifetime. There is no past tense in love. I could "love", but not be IN LOVE with someone. That was predominantly the reason why these marriages didn't work. These men knew how I felt pre-marriage. 36 years later he and I met again. His sister needed legal & other assistance with her parents estate at a time when I was visiting my former hometown. He claimed he didn't "remember" why he left me years ago. My heart forgave him and we renewed our relationship. It was the fairy-tale come true. I was finally getting my happy ending. He promised me he would never hurt me again. He promised he would never leave me again. He said the reason he was still single and had never married, was because he was waiting for me all his life. I was 'the one' he said. The way he would look at me, was as if he was looking at me for the very first time. I saw the 'love' in his facial expressions. His eyes reflected the love. *I've since questioned myself; did I see what I wanted to see? On my birthday he gave me a card which was the most beautiful card I ever read. The love I feel for him consumed every fiber of my being. I need him to breathe. My life is defined by him. He returned the sentiment, or so I believed. I deduce, when you're IN LOVE, you can "feel" it. Or is that a blind attribute? Disillusionment? My definition of REAL love is being ridiculous, inconvenient, consuming, can't-live-without-each-other love. Two months after he gave me that card for my birthday, we were married. It was just us in a small ceremony. It was romantic. I was ecstatic. I was going to grow old with the love of my life. The "perfect" storybook romance. It didn't matter to me that he didn't have "money" (saved). I would have lived in a cardboard box with him. I was proud of him. He had many faults, however I loved him regardless. As long as we had each other, that was the greater rich for me. Love trumps money in my opinion. By July, a mere 3 months after we were married, it was over as he threw me away. He broke every promise he made to me - again. He was flippant & acted as if we weren't real. What happened? How do you go from professing eternal love and commitment to a "bye, see ya" disposition? I was left with a 3 month marriage & unrequited love. I begged him to provide me with an explanation, however he couldn't break from the constraints of his egocentric mentality. Has love become disposable? I was wrecked. He broke me a second time. I'm damaged goods. He emotionally paralyzed me. I should hate him but I an unable. I am a pragmatist, and I cannot come up with an explanation as to why he left me again. He had once questioned my integrity, as to why I married twice and where I admittedly didn't love these men. Here he did the same with me. Was this my karma? The last 4 years I have beaten myself up, trying to figure out how one could love another one minute, then not love the next. From June of 2016 to July of 2018 I showed him everyday how much I loved him. I did everything to please him. I ask myself everyday, 'what did I do in my life, that was so horrible, to deserve this?'. I'm a good person, generous/giving, smart, highly intelligent; for age 58 I'm considered good looking, with a head for business & as "bod" for sin. I'm highly respected and have a stellar reputation. If he called me tomorrow and apologized, in all probability the odds in me taking him back are 100%. I'd rather have 15 minutes of wonderful, than a lifetime of nothing special. The last 4 years I rose like the phoenix from the ashes, and rebuilt my life. I'm financially stable and spend my time helping people through activism & advocacy. I keep myself busy. I love him to this day. I remain IN LOVE with him. I cannot date anyone either. I'll never marry again. My heart will forever be restless, until I know, where does the love go? In 1993, the band Haddaway asked the world, “What is Love?” I’m not sure if he ever got his answer. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Why don't you ask your 2 ex husbands and the kids ? Real love never dies, Anything else was lies. Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 09/12/2022 07:24 AM |
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(OP) Forum Administrator 09/12/2022 03:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No offense, I don't get this as a question. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84026375 DO you ask: Where does the pain go once you leave the dentist? Where does the sadness go once you're done crying? Where does the happiness go once you go back to normal?? "Love" is simply an emotion. Nothing more. Emotions come and go, like stomach pain, like a rash etc. Where's the logic in your Q? There's none! Non sequitur the logic is crystal. love maybe an emotion -but theres a huge gap here. love back in the day was eternal. now it isnt. why? Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 09/12/2022 03:16 AM political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84026375 Hong Kong 09/12/2022 03:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course If people don't worship me and do exactly as I say, even if I don't tell them, then I'll discard them (Insight into a narc mind) But no. A parent who I cut contact with is the only one I'd slap the label on. We all have our narcissistic moments, but that's a far cry from being a full narc. Of course...a narc would never admit they have selfish moments... so maybe I'm just a clever narc.. :jackfingers: Using words out of context much?? Making your own meaning for words, I see! Maybe... ^cued up! |
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(OP) Forum Administrator 09/12/2022 03:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i wrote this on newsbreak. im the orig author no copyright infringement. i post without compensation or promotion. Quoting: Phennommennonn where does the love go when the relationship is over? The story herein is non-fiction; true events that occurred in my life. Where does the love go when a relationship is over? Is love just a temporary, quintessential emotion? The best of relationships create tons of passionate electricity, a bonding connection, with laughter and some tears. Then when it's over, often nothing remains but memories. Is love generated from oneself?. Do "we" create a state of mind and feeling from the interactions we have with another person?. Does love abide independent of our own feelings, bodies, chemical reactions, and the situation that creates it?. The loss of a love, it's one of the most profound types of pain we can feel. One grieves in the same manner as a physical death but it may manifest in other directions. Rejection is an acrimonious bitter pill. There is an anguishing distress in your heart every single time you think about them, or hear a song on the radio, or come across something of a reminder of them. You experienced pinnacles of happiness when you are with them, and now when they leave, you experience a nadir of torment in sadness. Some couples have demonstrated decades of longevity, i.e. golden anniversaries, and their love remains unyielding. Some have the life-long commitment, but are trapped in a loveless relationship. Many relationships that I have observed start off as that some kind of wonderful, however once the "honeymoon period" has worn off, the relationship wans and they break up. They tend to move on, and begin new relationships. Some I've seen equate to that of an assembly line, going from one relationship to another. Was it really love they were experiencing? The definition of love is in essence 'an intense feeling of deep affection or admiration'. It is unconditional, non-judgmental, and selfless. How can one feel so deeply for another, and then not? My story began 42 years ago. A man I fell in love with while I was still in high school, was the brother of a good friend. We were together a few years. 1980-83. My parents loved him, and he treated me well. He had bought me a promise ring, with the intent we would marry once he graduated from truck driving school, and me from dental school. One day, I had called him and he wasn't home. I called for a week, and the response was the same. I finally drove to his house, and received the news from his kid brother. The love of my life went to Florida, and nobody knew how to reach him. Needless to say, I was devastated. I had no clue he was going to leave me. The last night we were together was a normal evening for us both. For 36 years I carried this loss with me. My life post 1983 was a void. I lived, I existed but I emotionally was rendered an empty shell. Meanwhile, I had married twice to men I didn't love, and had 2 children. I have an antiquated belief system, where you only get one great love in a lifetime. There is no past tense in love. I could "love", but not be IN LOVE with someone. That was predominantly the reason why these marriages didn't work. These men knew how I felt pre-marriage. 36 years later he and I met again. His sister needed legal & other assistance with her parents estate at a time when I was visiting my former hometown. He claimed he didn't "remember" why he left me years ago. My heart forgave him and we renewed our relationship. It was the fairy-tale come true. I was finally getting my happy ending. He promised me he would never hurt me again. He promised he would never leave me again. He said the reason he was still single and had never married, was because he was waiting for me all his life. I was 'the one' he said. The way he would look at me, was as if he was looking at me for the very first time. I saw the 'love' in his facial expressions. His eyes reflected the love. *I've since questioned myself; did I see what I wanted to see? On my birthday he gave me a card which was the most beautiful card I ever read. The love I feel for him consumed every fiber of my being. I need him to breathe. My life is defined by him. He returned the sentiment, or so I believed. I deduce, when you're IN LOVE, you can "feel" it. Or is that a blind attribute? Disillusionment? My definition of REAL love is being ridiculous, inconvenient, consuming, can't-live-without-each-other love. Two months after he gave me that card for my birthday, we were married. It was just us in a small ceremony. It was romantic. I was ecstatic. I was going to grow old with the love of my life. The "perfect" storybook romance. It didn't matter to me that he didn't have "money" (saved). I would have lived in a cardboard box with him. I was proud of him. He had many faults, however I loved him regardless. As long as we had each other, that was the greater rich for me. Love trumps money in my opinion. By July, a mere 3 months after we were married, it was over as he threw me away. He broke every promise he made to me - again. He was flippant & acted as if we weren't real. What happened? How do you go from professing eternal love and commitment to a "bye, see ya" disposition? I was left with a 3 month marriage & unrequited love. I begged him to provide me with an explanation, however he couldn't break from the constraints of his egocentric mentality. Has love become disposable? I was wrecked. He broke me a second time. I'm damaged goods. He emotionally paralyzed me. I should hate him but I an unable. I am a pragmatist, and I cannot come up with an explanation as to why he left me again. He had once questioned my integrity, as to why I married twice and where I admittedly didn't love these men. Here he did the same with me. Was this my karma? The last 4 years I have beaten myself up, trying to figure out how one could love another one minute, then not love the next. From June of 2016 to July of 2018 I showed him everyday how much I loved him. I did everything to please him. I ask myself everyday, 'what did I do in my life, that was so horrible, to deserve this?'. I'm a good person, generous/giving, smart, highly intelligent; for age 58 I'm considered good looking, with a head for business & as "bod" for sin. I'm highly respected and have a stellar reputation. If he called me tomorrow and apologized, in all probability the odds in me taking him back are 100%. I'd rather have 15 minutes of wonderful, than a lifetime of nothing special. The last 4 years I rose like the phoenix from the ashes, and rebuilt my life. I'm financially stable and spend my time helping people through activism & advocacy. I keep myself busy. I love him to this day. I remain IN LOVE with him. I cannot date anyone either. I'll never marry again. My heart will forever be restless, until I know, where does the love go? In 1993, the band Haddaway asked the world, “What is Love?” I’m not sure if he ever got his answer. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Why don't you ask your 2 ex husbands and the kids ? Real love never dies, Anything else was lies. they knew. i didnt want to get married. they said it was ok with them. i shouldn't have, it lasted 7-8 yrs. Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 09/12/2022 07:25 AM political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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(OP) Forum Administrator 09/12/2022 03:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Sol-tari Based on the actions...this. Narcissistic and other cluster B types can really fuck with your head until you learn what's going on. Add to that the general devaluation of humans across society as little more then 1s and 0s to generate money and what that kind of mentality does to empathy and the like... do you go around slappin these labels on everyone who doesn't worship the ground you stand on? Of course If people don't worship me and do exactly as I say, even if I don't tell them, then I'll discard them (Insight into a narc mind) But no. A parent who I cut contact with is the only one I'd slap the label on. We all have our narcissistic moments, but that's a far cry from being a full narc. Of course...a narc would never admit they have selfish moments... so maybe I'm just a clever narc.. lol, the narc trap.. Ive perused the latest DSM-V 5 and come to the conclusion that everyone is sick on one level or another.. I have diagnosed my self as ODD (oppositional Defiance Disorder) and SAD (Social Anxiety Disorder). maybe I need to add NARC to my list and wear it as a badge.. Hi, Im.. Im ODD, SAD and a Narc... Nice to meet you... my BFF is a psychiatrist. harvey diag'd me as OCD & explosive personality disorder bc i go off on ppl political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84026375 Hong Kong 09/12/2022 03:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No offense, I don't get this as a question. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84026375 DO you ask: Where does the pain go once you leave the dentist? Where does the sadness go once you're done crying? Where does the happiness go once you go back to normal?? "Love" is simply an emotion. Nothing more. Emotions come and go, like stomach pain, like a rash etc. Where's the logic in your Q? There's none! Non sequitur the logic is crystal. love maybe an emotion -but theres a huge gap here. love back in the day was eternal. now it isnt. why? So there wasn't divorce "back in the day"? Back in what day? Back in whose day? Watch old movies, things are as they've always been. Personally, I don't do "love". That toxic emotion is foreign to me. Make up your mind to stop feeling that and it will dissolve away. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84026375 Hong Kong 09/12/2022 03:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't mean any offense, but did you ever have a substance abuse (of ANY toxic kind) that you quit? You don't even need to answer: if it's a yes, then ask yourself if anyone ever put you on a liver detox protocol. If not and you want to change your behavior, start with the liver. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84180363 Switzerland 09/12/2022 03:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They knew!! sorry but its a bit hard to fathom.. Twice, you told men that you didn't love them, but married them anyways?? Was this for a visa or something? I don't think I could ever marry someone who told me that.. I mean why.. Looking at them everyday and feeling like that must have been horrible.. Why waste your life like that? Some feelings of obligation? im very curious... |
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(OP) Forum Administrator 09/12/2022 03:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No offense, I don't get this as a question. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84026375 DO you ask: Where does the pain go once you leave the dentist? Where does the sadness go once you're done crying? Where does the happiness go once you go back to normal?? "Love" is simply an emotion. Nothing more. Emotions come and go, like stomach pain, like a rash etc. Where's the logic in your Q? There's none! Non sequitur the logic is crystal. love maybe an emotion -but theres a huge gap here. love back in the day was eternal. now it isnt. why? So there wasn't divorce "back in the day"? Back in what day? Back in whose day? Watch old movies, things are as they've always been. Personally, I don't do "love". That toxic emotion is foreign to me. Make up your mind to stop feeling that and it will dissolve away. back before the 60s. remember women were "scorned" for being as divorcee back then. gloria steinem asnd her burn ur bra shit post 60s the conspiracy was to break up the families. divorces were risding then. women went to work. the shit started post 60s. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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(OP) Forum Administrator 09/12/2022 03:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They knew!! sorry but its a bit hard to fathom.. Twice, you told men that you didn't love them, but married them anyways?? Was this for a visa or something? I don't think I could ever marry someone who told me that.. I mean why.. Looking at them everyday and feeling like that must have been horrible.. Why waste your life like that? Some feelings of obligation? im very curious... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84180363 no visas dude. they knew my story. i loved them as friends. they prolly thought that was enough. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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(OP) Forum Administrator 09/12/2022 03:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Phennn: going off on people is often a symptom of a toxic liver. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84026375 I don't mean any offense, but did you ever have a substance abuse (of ANY toxic kind) that you quit? You don't even need to answer: if it's a yes, then ask yourself if anyone ever put you on a liver detox protocol. If not and you want to change your behavior, start with the liver. ha!! thats my MO dude. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |