Imminent Pandemic; 25 SARS like cases in Undisclosed New York Hospital-Now believed to be St Lukes.

Vietnam is more of an H5N1 avian influenza risk.

China remains an unknown with the H7N9 virus as its source, remains unknown and there are many unanswered medical concerns surrounding it, but to their credit the Chinese authorities have been acting more or less responsibly with their outbreak.

And as far as the MERS-cov goes, well it has its origins in the Arabian Peninsular and to date all cases can be directly traced to this region.

Any information on the new cluster that we have been discussing that are suspected in New York, have to date no place of origin allocated to this outbreak, but I will bet a penny to a dime that it has come from the Arabian Peninsular.

What is more I will go the extra distance and suggest that this has been returned to America with an unknowing person who has been observing their Umrra as is required by their religous faith.

Please note...I will not permit any discrimatory slurrs against any group of peoples based on race, religion etc, when associated with this situation.

We all make our own choices and we are all permitted to do just that freely.

There is not one person alive today that would deliberately set out to spread an illness such as this and if that situation becomes adentified rest assured it will have occured in the absence of any knowledge of the risks.

This is why I have been so outspoken in regards to the World Health Organization and the Saudi Arabian authorities handling of this matter as they have been completely aware of the risks and the potential for this to go pandemic but have refused to act in accordance with any cautious health conciderations, and continue to do s, hence leaving us with this possible senario ahead of us.

That is where blame justifiably rests and always will.

People should be told that there should be NO travel out of Saudi Arabia until this coronavirus can be traced and managed, until then religous pilgrimages must, absolutely must be delayed until we all know that it is genuinely safe to travel to and from SAaudi Arabia.

Anything else is a reckless act that threatens both the individual travellers personal health as well as the whole of humanity.

Please spread this message to everyone you know, it is of utmost importance.

Avoid Saudi Arabia at all costs.

Vietnam is more of an H5N1 avian influenza risk.

China remains an unknown with the H7N9 virus as its source, remains unknown and there are many unanswered medical concerns surrounding it, but to their credit the Chinese authorities have been acting more or less responsibly with their outbreak.

And as far as the MERS-cov goes, well it has its origins in the Arabian Peninsular and to date all cases can be directly traced to this region.

Any information on the new cluster that we have been discussing that are suspected in New York, have to date no place of origin allocated to this outbreak, but I will bet a penny to a dime that it has come from the Arabian Peninsular.

What is more I will go the extra distance and suggest that this has been returned to America with an unknowing person who has been observing their Umrra as is required by their religous faith.

Please note...I will not permit any discrimatory slurrs against any group of peoples based on race, religion etc, when associated with this situation.

We all make our own choices and we are all permitted to do just that freely.

There is not one person alive today that would deliberately set out to spread an illness such as this and if that situation becomes adentified rest assured it will have occured in the absence of any knowledge of the risks.

This is why I have been so outspoken in regards to the World Health Organization and the Saudi Arabian authorities handling of this matter as they have been completely aware of the risks and the potential for this to go pandemic but have refused to act in accordance with any cautious health conciderations, and continue to do s, hence leaving us with this possible senario ahead of us.

That is where blame justifiably rests and always will.

People should be told that there should be NO travel out of Saudi Arabia until this coronavirus can be traced and managed, until then religous pilgrimages must, absolutely must be delayed until we all know that it is genuinely safe to travel to and from SAaudi Arabia.

Anything else is a reckless act that threatens both the individual travellers personal health as well as the whole of humanity.

Please spread this message to everyone you know, it is of utmost importance.

Avoid Saudi Arabia at all costs.

Last Edited by arkay on 05/14/2013 06:26 AM

sorry for the double post.

arkay

I did not know this!

Ok, well 2 pins in one day, that has to be unique.

First thank you.

But forget my personal Qudos here, theyre irrelevant.

The message is what counts above all else.

This genuinely reflects the absolute enormity and potential threat this new news carries, if it is factual, which I believe with very good reason is factual, has for all the people of the world.

This has the clear and undisputed potential to kill more people than a full blown atomic war.

The only difference will be that there will be no property damage, just human beings.

Your family and friends, work colleagues, mine as well.

Everyones, everywhere.

This is a concept that few of us could even hope to comprehend.

We need answers.

What news does the CDC, who are on hand and managing this situation, have for us all.

We are entitled to know what we are facing, that is a simple matter of morality and humanity.

If it causes some panic, well so be it.

We here in social media are capable of and willing to do our utmost to help educate and assist with information sharing in order to minimise both panic and more importantly risk, to our deerly loved human friends, family associates and everyone else that will listen to the message no matter who brings it, just as long as it is genuine and caring.

If anyone has any genuine information that they can add to inform us on the current situation, then we all beg that knowledge.

In the mean time I beg the CDC, who I know read this very closely, to please come forward and post information for us that is genuinely informative and meaningful on this developing situation.

Im begging you.

Please come forward, it is your duty and our rights to know.

Thank you

arkay...on behalf of all.

You might like to dissmis it, unfortunately it is totally incorrect, but now is not the time.

Please read this for the correct explaination.

[link to www.cytokinestorm.com]

It was the pigs that died in China. Shouldn't these medical authorities be saying "Beware the pork".... and be very careful where your meat is coming from.

We're near Scranton.

My husband went to a wake last night, for a 30 year old woman who had a respiratory infection that turned into pneumonia, then overnight it turned septic and killed her :(

No idea if its related, but when I heard about it, these posts came to mind.

Unfortunately, I have no further details. Her family and friends are devastated, my heart goes out to them and all those facing illness and loss.

BS, I suspect a large cover up for a bio agent in the Boston Bombs.

With acknowledgement to the emmenent Professor Niman and the excellent information that he constantly provides through his web site, I am lifting more information than is accepted protocol, in order to furnish a more complete post here on the newest information to come out of Saudi Arabia relating to MERS-cov.

I would however point all readers to bookmark his linked site below for regular information updates as this is where I gain so much highly credible medical information from.

You dont need me to tell you about it, rather go straight to the Professor's site and read it first for yourself.

On my other thread I and the Professor have made numerous asertions and requests for greater levels of information from both the World Health Organization and the Saudi Arabian authorities on this matter, but without response.

These new cases that the Saudis are only now admitting to are in all likelyhood cases that I suggested that we would slowly learn about over time and certainly after public attention is drawn away from Saudi Arabia as the originating region for this new coronavirus.

It is as though they have been waiting for a pandemic to begin, to shift attention away from them.

There is a pattern here where information has been slowly released, probably disguising the enormity of the local situation, and also probably designed to only come to light after a pandemic affecting many nations is underway, but also dusguising their greedy, abysmal and totally irresponsible missmanagement of this situation since its onset.

However, as this situation eventually becomes understood as to it ultimately evoles, there will never be any doubt that the Saudi Arabian authorities and the WHO's complicity in manipulating information will have been the primary reason for a pandemic.

That will never change the fact that their efforts, rather than focus on the real issues of identification and cautious travel recommendations that have never eventuated, will be the dominating factors that ultimately promoted the escalation of a minor and manageable matter into one of dire world wide consequences involving millions of deaths.

God I pray I am wrong.

If not the GOD help the WHO and the Saudi Arabian authorities, because they will have to answer to Him with all that blood on their collective hands.

arkay.

MERS-CoV Community Transmission In Al Hofuf?
Recombinomics Commentary 10:00
May 14, 2013

In its latest outbreak in its Eastern Province, it said it had had 15 confirmed cases, of whom nine had died.

Among those was a nine-year-old girl who died a few hours after arriving at hospital with a strong fever.

Another fatality was Haidar Ghanem, a disabled 21-year-old man who had a "strong fever" for a week, according to his father Mokhtar. He died last Thursday, four days after being admitted to hospital after falling unconscious.

The above translation describes the two most recent confirmed MERS-CoV fatalities in the eastern region of Saudi Arabia. The description of the younger case (9F) matches the detailed May 5 description of a student in Al Hofuf (see map). This fatality was followed by reports of 5 hospitalized cases at her school with SARS-like synptoms, as well as a non-disclosure requirement that prohibited release of the names, ages, and location of the school, although a tweet has cited cases at a school in Al Hofuf (Abu Abeida), which may be the school cited above or an additional school.

The cluster(s) at the school(s) support community transmission by casual conact, which is in contrast to recent WHO reports claiming that MERS-CoV transmission requires close contact such as family members caring for infected cases.

Link here...

[link to www.recombinomics.com]

Sorry folks you are way way off the mark with those comments.

But thank you for taking the time to think and post about this, that of itself is a good start.

If you would like all the history of this outbreak which goes all the way back to April 2012, then I would strongly recommend that you will find pretty well everything you might like to know about this on my other thread.

I have been reporting on this since it began.

Here is the link...

Thread: <<Advancing Bird Flu-H5N1...Now following MERS and Ebola approaching PANDEMICS>>> (Page 120)

I haven't seen any severe like cases on the road in the UK but will keep a look out.

"antibiotic resistant flu virus"

The stupid burns

[link to www.fluadvisor.co.uk]

HPA voices concerns over drug-resistant super swine flu virus (H1N1pdm09)

Bit like ALL viruses then !

Awesome point!!!

The World Health Organization has (finally) released a very general "press Release" over the MERS-cov and its Saudi Arabian connection.

It might sound a little synical, but the first paragraph of the "Press Release" sounds, if you will excuse my loose application of the English language, like the biggest piece of ARSE KISSING I have ever had the complete disspleasure of being expected to believe.

Perhaps it should read...

"WHO is pleased to be here to be dictated to by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and jointly subject the worlds general wellbeing to unimaginable dangers and risk because we are scared of you"...


Here is that disgusting document.

WHO Press Statement Related to the Novel Coronavirus Situation
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The emergence of this new coronavirus is globally recognized as an important and major challenge for all of the countries which have been affected as well as the rest of the world. The Ministry of Health of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has recognized this and invited the World Health Organization (WHO) to help them assess the situation and to provide guidance and recommendations. WHO is pleased to be here to work together with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

At this time there are some things about this new disease we understand. However I would like to remind everyone that this is a new infection and there are also many gaps in our knowledge that will inevitably take time to fill in.

We know that the disease is caused by a virus from a group called coronaviruses. One member of the coronavirus family is the SARs virus. This new virus is NOT the SARS virus. They are distinct from each other. However, the fact that they are related has added to the world's concern. We know this virus has infected people since 2012, but we don't know where this virus lives. We know that when people get infected, many of them develop severe pneumonia. What we don't know is how often people might develop mild disease. We also know that most of the persons who have been infected so far have been older men, often with other medical conditions. We are not sure why we are seeing this pattern and if it will change over time. See link

Last Edited by Desert Fox on 05/14/2013 12:39 PM

Best to take this.

Codeine phosphate is a type of medicine called an opioid. Codeine is a mild painkiller, but also has cough suppressant and anti-diarrhoeal actions.

It actually started three months ago. The discovery it's the strains that were 'dangerous' eight years ago.

Except this time they are completely drug resistant and antiseptic resistant. This is what happens when people 'help' mother nature.

She returns to sender.

Everyone needs to start taking 20000 ie of git d3 every day. Cuz its coming

I cannot believe that some people come here and read just one or two posts before they insist on making complete fools of themselves.

Please, have a look above at one of my not-so-long-ago posts regarding how this information is completely wrong and missleading.

There is even a link to an article that will explain the action that kills where unknown influenzas first appear.

If this keeps up I will remove stupid posts.

Im sorry but poor information can be deadly in these type of situations and we do not need to be getting cluttered chatter that has no relevance or credibility.

Focus on fact is important.

Please read my last post.

This did NOT start 3 months ago, it began in April of 2012.

Specifically in Jordan on the Arabian peninsular.

Where are your links?

Thats it, all junk posts will be removed without warning or comment before or after removal.

Check your facts and post credible links.

Either that or just stay away and amuse yourself with something less dangerous to us all here.

arkay

Last Edited by arkay on 05/14/2013 08:11 AM

On cbs 2 they are doing a spot on it now.

LOL, doesn't it though?

Imminent doom!!!!! For the 43rd time this month!!!!!!!!!!

This guy just said it wasn't transferred from person to person.

I take about 10 drops of Oil of Oregano, under the tongue, 2x per day, when I feel congested.

This should be common knowledge...

In professional sports the check of tooth is standard if a player gets injured easily.
Frank Ribery, for example, was injured (problems with his muscles) all the time at the beginning of his time at Bavaria Munich. After a following longer dental treatment this problems were completly gone.

With apolagies to our more credible posters and readers here.

I have regrettably removed a couple of junk posts in the interests of keeping this thread as appropriate and focused on this terrible situation as it unfolds before us, as can be done.

It is extremely important.

Hopefully we wont have to put up with that type of rubbish for too long.

Its been my previous experience that there are a number of dills who lurk around relatively new threads posting just about anwthing in a juvenile attempt to get some recognition and attention.

They propably need medical attention themselves, but it cant be provided here, so their presence is innapropriate here also.

Ill do my best to manage the situation for you all.

In the mean time might I ask if there is anyone who might be in a position to provide some knowledge of the situation at St Lukes hospital in New York.

Are they in fact treating these 25 cases that we have some news of, and can anyone ascertain if these cases have been positively confirmed with MERS-cov.

By now I would have thought that someone might have been able to gleen that information for us.

arkay.