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Two seconds in and I'm thinking, 'I'm supposed to listen to some dissheveled guy with a sloppy ole playpen in the background?'
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Its hard to take him serious.Eyebrows pointing in a dozen directions and looking like he needs to wash his face.Grooming isnt one of his qualities for sure.I am just not buying the video yet.
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To make it worse, his name on YouTb is "JesusTruther" .... 'nuff said... a Bible Thumper with medical info = "Make Peace With Jesus Now" .... wait for it... it will come in one of his updates, guaranteed.
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Please, I think some more logical and in other posts respectful considerations might be appropriate.

The saying...

"Dont shoot the messenger"...

seems appropriate.

All who say this is unconfirmed are correct, I posted just as much, right from the outset.

But, it is the nature of the beast that someone HAS to be the first to break a new story, and when I did post this originally, I did so because I was given that link, but also far more importantly, my source also additionally had a close relative working in a medical field who was also endorsing exactly the same information.

So I do have 2 reasonably reliable independant sources.

One of whom I have had contact with for wel over a year and whose reputation I have absolutely no hesitation in vouching 100% for.

That source has simpley wanteed a higher level of anonimity because authorities are attempting to conceal this information.

However, now the cat is out of the bag, it shouldnt be long before we do get LOTS of official information.

All for the reasons that I have previously ststed.

Witholding information now will cause those who do much grief as it should.

arkay
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this is very possible

unfortunately..



prayers are to those who are struggling now
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Again I would direct those curious to know more on the real medical information that we do know on this MERS-cov along with its history and recent growth and spread, to follow this link to my other thread as I have been tracking this coronavirus since its first emergence in April last year in the Arabian Peninsulkar.

If you take the time to sift through the information there you will have an extensive understanding that most lay people might expect to find all in one place.

cheers

arkay

heres the link...

Thread: <<Advancing Bird Flu-H5N1...Now following MERS and Ebola approaching PANDEMICS>>> (Page 121)
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Two seconds in and I'm thinking, 'I'm supposed to listen to some dissheveled guy with a sloppy ole playpen in the background?'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39746414


Its hard to take him serious.Eyebrows pointing in a dozen directions and looking like he needs to wash his face.Grooming isnt one of his qualities for sure.I am just not buying the video yet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39763480


To make it worse, his name on YouTb is "JesusTruther" .... 'nuff said... a Bible Thumper with medical info = "Make Peace With Jesus Now" .... wait for it... it will come in one of his updates, guaranteed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1609255


Please, I think some more logical and in other posts respectful considerations might be appropriate.

The saying...

"Dont shoot the messenger"...

seems appropriate.

All who say this is unconfirmed are correct, I posted just as much, right from the outset.

But, it is the nature of the beast that someone HAS to be the first to break a new story, and when I did post this originally, I did so because I was given that link, but also far more importantly, my source also additionally had a close relative working in a medical field who was also endorsing exactly the same information.

So I do have 2 reasonably reliable independant sources.

One of whom I have had contact with for wel over a year and whose reputation I have absolutely no hesitation in vouching 100% for.

That source has simpley wanteed a higher level of anonimity because authorities are attempting to conceal this information.

However, now the cat is out of the bag, it shouldnt be long before we do get LOTS of official information.

All for the reasons that I have previously ststed.

Witholding information now will cause those who do much grief as it should.

arkay
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I give you more credit saying you have a source about what is going on over that dude on the youtube video.
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Its hard to take him serious.Eyebrows pointing in a dozen directions and looking like he needs to wash his face.Grooming isnt one of his qualities for sure.I am just not buying the video yet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39763480


To make it worse, his name on YouTb is "JesusTruther" .... 'nuff said... a Bible Thumper with medical info = "Make Peace With Jesus Now" .... wait for it... it will come in one of his updates, guaranteed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1609255


Please, I think some more logical and in other posts respectful considerations might be appropriate.

The saying...

"Dont shoot the messenger"...

seems appropriate.

All who say this is unconfirmed are correct, I posted just as much, right from the outset.

But, it is the nature of the beast that someone HAS to be the first to break a new story, and when I did post this originally, I did so because I was given that link, but also far more importantly, my source also additionally had a close relative working in a medical field who was also endorsing exactly the same information.

So I do have 2 reasonably reliable independant sources.

One of whom I have had contact with for wel over a year and whose reputation I have absolutely no hesitation in vouching 100% for.

That source has simpley wanteed a higher level of anonimity because authorities are attempting to conceal this information.

However, now the cat is out of the bag, it shouldnt be long before we do get LOTS of official information.

All for the reasons that I have previously ststed.

Witholding information now will cause those who do much grief as it should.

arkay
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I give you more credit saying you have a source about what is going on over that dude on the youtube video.
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Thank you, the person you refer to is 100% reliable, but the two afirm the same assertions also.

Otherwise I would never have posted.

I believe that the world is no the brink.

I and other highly qualified people have been expecting this for some time now, and our questions have never even been acknowledged, especially from the WHO.

Read my other thread and you will see why.

Thread: <<Advancing Bird Flu-H5N1...Now following MERS and Ebola approaching PANDEMICS>>> (Page 121)
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Hey Guys:

Some of you know I'm a retired MD myself. That having been said - where you are in the US has a direct correlation to your survival if/when you turn up with something "outside" the normal disease physicians see.

If her doc can't figure it out, then the first step is to call in a Pulmonologist and an Infectious Disease Specialist. If you can find men/women in these specialities who are professors at a medical school - so much the better. Medical Schools tend to take a lot of funds from the US Government and are easily and quickly plugged into The CDC and the NIH. A phone call is all it takes to get a team dispatched if they're got a suspected case of SARS or Bird Flu, etc. Those teams will also advise what antibiotics and combos of drugs to begin IMMEDIATELY (before they arrive) to give your mother the best chance of survival and control over either one of those illnesses if that should be what she's suffering with.

Do NOT let some GP or Country Doc twiddle his thumbs trying to figure it out himself. If he won't get consultations from Pulmonology and ID, then you can make a few phone calls and arrange them yourself. You won't get anywhere sitting by and being patient and polite, however. If she's sick and they do not know what's wrong, then insist that the escalate the problem up to first the local specialists and then to the national guys at NIH and/or CDC.

There are lots of dedicated scientists and docs at the NIH and CDC who are funded to be on a plane with a team in minutes if there's a case they cannot identify. The problem is that too often the local docs wait too long before calling them and the disease is totally out of control.

Raise hell, and if she's in a small regional hospital - you may even have to get her transferred to the nearest medical school, teaching facility to get state-of-the-art care. Do not hesitate to do so. Her life may well depend on how hard and now well you and your family push these docs!

God Bless you and your mother. Let me know where you are in the US and I can guide you to the top teaching hospitals in the area if that would be of help or interest.

My mom is really, really sick with a respiratory illness that her dr. can't pinpoint. Damn.
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I wish her all the best! hf
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A thought also.

If this event does turn out to be MERS-cov the the numbers of cases will virtually double alll the admitted to cases to date, well atleast amount to about two thirds of that.

That is a seriously significant increase in just one single place and all at the same time.

Hence my fears of the leading edge of a pandemic.

arkay
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Do Not take aspirin if you have the Flu!! Aspirin causes lungs to fill with blood.... that's what caused most of the deaths in the big flu pandemic!!! Tylenal only no aspirin!!
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And Tylenol can cause liver failure. How about continuous rehydration rather than a pill?
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Hey Guys:

Some of you know I'm a retired MD myself. That having been said - where you are in the US has a direct correlation to your survival if/when you turn up with something "outside" the normal disease physicians see.

If her doc can't figure it out, then the first step is to call in a Pulmonologist and an Infectious Disease Specialist. If you can find men/women in these specialities who are professors at a medical school - so much the better. Medical Schools tend to take a lot of funds from the US Government and are easily and quickly plugged into The CDC and the NIH. A phone call is all it takes to get a team dispatched if they're got a suspected case of SARS or Bird Flu, etc. Those teams will also advise what antibiotics and combos of drugs to begin IMMEDIATELY (before they arrive) to give your mother the best chance of survival and control over either one of those illnesses if that should be what she's suffering with.

Do NOT let some GP or Country Doc twiddle his thumbs trying to figure it out himself. If he won't get consultations from Pulmonology and ID, then you can make a few phone calls and arrange them yourself. You won't get anywhere sitting by and being patient and polite, however. If she's sick and they do not know what's wrong, then insist that the escalate the problem up to first the local specialists and then to the national guys at NIH and/or CDC.

There are lots of dedicated scientists and docs at the NIH and CDC who are funded to be on a plane with a team in minutes if there's a case they cannot identify. The problem is that too often the local docs wait too long before calling them and the disease is totally out of control.

Raise hell, and if she's in a small regional hospital - you may even have to get her transferred to the nearest medical school, teaching facility to get state-of-the-art care. Do not hesitate to do so. Her life may well depend on how hard and now well you and your family push these docs!

God Bless you and your mother. Let me know where you are in the US and I can guide you to the top teaching hospitals in the area if that would be of help or interest.

My mom is really, really sick with a respiratory illness that her dr. can't pinpoint. Damn.
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I wish her all the best! hf
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Doctor, Please allow me to humbly thank you for your most helpful contribution here.

I have been at this for over a year now, almost daily.

I have to make the observation that your post is probably one of the most helpful and powerful posts that I have ever been priveledged to have appear anywhere near my works.

I thank you.

I also wish to extend the most sincere invitation to you to continue to contribute whenever you can to keep us on the right track.

Your presence and pure credibilty here cannot be overstated and I am sure that if this bug does what we all hope it wont do, then your presence I am certain will save lives.

I humbly implore you remain present here, and again thank you for your information.

cheers

arkay

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I went down with the flu on Saturday, between then and now I've cut up about 15 cloves of garlic over the three days and eaten them raw swallowing cut up pieces whole.


Not a pleasant experience but this flu I've had has now reduced and I am now able to go back into work. Im still taking the normal pharam remedies as well but I suspect the garlic has helped to kill off the virus somehow.

I've done this before and it worked then too. Not saying its a miracle cure but thought I would give it a try as I'm one of those people who rarely gets a cold or flu but when I do it's normally pretty bad and lays me up for min of a week.
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Sorry, don't buy this at all. If there really was a highly infectious flu-like super bug spreading then it would already be everywhere and quite obvious. We know there have already been isolated cases all over the world so it is obviously already out there all over the place - but it isn't causing mass infections. Not saying it won't at some point, just that I don't think this is it.

Hasn't there been unseasonally cold weather on the east coast of the US recently? If so wouldn't that have extended the normal flue season? So wouldn't you expect more flu cases than normal?
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fuck and i was thinking of going to nyc for monsanto protest, i think thats out the window now
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It's entirely possible they are now unleashing the plague to preemptively stop the protests!
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The Hospital concerned is St Lukes. This was revealed by the nurse at the centre of this story on a thread from another website.

Both she and the man in the video have posted in this thread and both are very believable.

The original thread that broke this story is here....


[link to www.avianflutalk.com]
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Thanks for the Pin and votes.

This might be the most important news in the world today.

I hope I am completely wrong.

arkay
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This is the most important news even if main stream choose to keep this from us,but for how much longer can they keep the lid on this.
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monster

I say bring it on!

This poor planet earth is vastly overpopulated by this destructive species known as mankind.

It's time mother nature fought back with a plague to cleanse the planet and restore the balance.

When an elephant pushes over a few trees to modify it's environment it's called destructive.

When man destroys natural areas to modify his environment it's called progress.

Our time on this planet should come to an end unless the few that are left can live in a sustainable environment in perfect balance with nature as we were designed to do.

It's time for our souls to move on...the soulless too.
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big sickeness be4 15 may

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"I know I didn’t say I was comin down,

I know you didn’t know I was here in town,

But bay-yay-yaby you can tell me if anyone can,

Baby, can you dig your man?

He’s a righteous man,

Tell me baby, can you dig your man?"
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Button the hospital down. No one in, no one out.
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monster

I say bring it on!

This poor planet earth is vastly overpopulated by this destructive species known as mankind.

It's time mother nature fought back with a plague to cleanse the planet and restore the balance.

When an elephant pushes over a few trees to modify it's environment it's called destructive.

When man destroys natural areas to modify his environment it's called progress.

Our time on this planet should come to an end unless the few that are left can live in a sustainable environment in perfect balance with nature as we were designed to do.

It's time for our souls to move on...the soulless too.
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You first
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Well time to make more colloidal silver
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The New York Police Department, in concert with the Department of Energy's Brookhaven National Lab, will release colorless, odorless, benign gas throughout the New York City subway system this July to test how a chemical or biological weapons attack would spread, according to a release.

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this is scary , i just got out of hos due to pnuemonia , my health isnt the best
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The Hospital concerned is St Lukes. This was revealed by the nurse at the centre of this story on a thread from another website.

Both she and the man in the video have posted in this thread and both are very believable.

The original thread that broke this story is here....


[link to www.avianflutalk.com]
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Thanks Richster, your information is highly valued and very appreciated as well as your links highly credible links.

I suggest that readers follow your reliable links.

cheers

arkay
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monster

I say bring it on!

This poor planet earth is vastly overpopulated by this destructive species known as mankind.

It's time mother nature fought back with a plague to cleanse the planet and restore the balance.

When an elephant pushes over a few trees to modify it's environment it's called destructive.

When man destroys natural areas to modify his environment it's called progress.

Our time on this planet should come to an end unless the few that are left can live in a sustainable environment in perfect balance with nature as we were designed to do.

It's time for our souls to move on...the soulless too.
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You first
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Yep,I am more than happy to go to the front of the line for this scenario to play out.

Bring it on SARS!!! 5a
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Here is some posted commentary regarding this situation.

The description describes medical barrier nursing practices and as such gains considerable credibility.

If you are not medically trained you could not describe these protocols, leading to and lending much greater credibility to the credentials of the poster.

The hospital that has now been identified as St. Lukes hospital in New York, so if anyone else could add confirmation we might be able to move forward with the issues that are core to this development.

I want to say a few things to get more information out. My Brother in Law John made the first video while I was still typing to him more information. I work at St Lukes . We were told to keep Hush Hush and not tell anyone what is going on at our hospital.


The CDC Has been contacted not be me but by other nurses. I was off the day they arrived but know not much was done by them. We have contacted local news papers but they want more proof and since we do have the privacy acts in place we can't just hand over medical files.


Since I have spoke up to hospital staff and asked questions I was given as they said "Time off"


The flu that I am talking about The symptoms are as follows:

Fever over 103
Severe body aches and pains
Raspy Cough
Chills
Either a Fast or slow heart rate.
Lethargic

We administer antibiotics when we first thought it was a virus and then Tamiflu and it has not responded
When we treat the patients we are to wear gloves up to the elbows we were a yellow or blue gown and a full face mask. No one is allowed in or out of the room with out wearing the protective gear.


Link here...

[link to www.avianflutalk.com]
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New Mexico - McKinley County confirmed case
Houston Texas, two dead one critical 'unknown disease'
Mexico - three areas, each of five reported cases

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monster

I say bring it on!

This poor planet earth is vastly overpopulated by this destructive species known as mankind.

It's time mother nature fought back with a plague to cleanse the planet and restore the balance.

When an elephant pushes over a few trees to modify it's environment it's called destructive.

When man destroys natural areas to modify his environment it's called progress.

Our time on this planet should come to an end unless the few that are left can live in a sustainable environment in perfect balance with nature as we were designed to do.

It's time for our souls to move on...the soulless too.
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You first
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Yep,I am more than happy to go to the front of the line for this scenario to play out.

Bring it on SARS!!! 5a
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stupid cunt
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Comets.

Comets are full of parasites. Ever since Shoemaker-Levy arrived, we started having unknown diseases. Well, we got THREE - at least - this year coming our way.
As for Comet ISON, NASA indicated we will get a 'double dusting' - of parasites, bacteria??

PEOPLE HAVEN'T GOT THIS!!!! Forget impacts, meteor strikes, near flybys.....
Halley's comet gave us the Black Death in 1341.

There's nothing one can do, really.
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There's nothing one can do, really.
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Can still keep away from trouble.
I would not travel to Vietnam or anywhere around there.

The only trouble is... their communities and other travellers will bring the viruses to us, most times unknowingly.
I came. I saw. I Concorde.

For once you have tasted Concorde you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return.

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