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Imminent Pandemic; 25 SARS like cases in Undisclosed New York Hospital-Now believed to be St Lukes.

 
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I never get sick but suddenly Ive got a wheezy cough. Went to my Dr. yesterday and Ive got bronchitis. No fever but lots of drainage and coughing spells. Bad sinus pressure. I got a steroid shot for the inflamation in my chest. Im on a zpack, and inhaler and cough syrup. Spring cold got me this year.....my first in about four years!
I moved in with my elderly parents after my dad had a stroke 2 years ago. Now we are like the three muscateers. I kept buying gallons of water and can goods each time I went for groceries and if on-sale stacks of bottled water...finally Mama politely asked whats up with all the water. I finally came out and told her. I think it went well, the other day she was talking to a real estate lady. I asked why? She said , I was reading and we need a bug-out place...hehe true story!
Well enough about me.
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Do Not take aspirin if you have the Flu!! Aspirin causes lungs to fill with blood.... that's what caused most of the deaths in the big flu pandemic!!! Tylenal only no aspirin!!
 Quoting: PHX57


Good to know!hf
You can't have everything... Where would you put it?
arkay  (OP)

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This guy just said it wasn't transferred from person to person.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25180363


Link please.

It is H2H transferrable with medical confirmation.

MERS-CoV and SARS-CoV Similarities Raise Concerns
Recombinomics Commentary 13:30
May 12, 2013

The second case is affected by the coronavirus man who shared the patient's room for four days at Valenciennes, while respiratory disease had not yet been detected. For this patient and new case, which is currently hospitalized and isolated Infectious Diseases Service at the University Hospital of Lille, "the positive results have just been confirmed."


Link here...

[link to www.recombinomics.com]
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"that's what caused most of the deaths in the big flu pandemic"

That post has been removed because it is totally missleading.

The link tells of the actions that lead to death.

Please read this...

[link to www.cytokinestorm.com]

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Quit drinking the fluoride. It depletes SELENIUM.

SELENIUM keeps the SARS from going lethal.




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Quit drinking the fluoride. It depletes SELENIUM.

SELENIUM keeps the SARS from going lethal.




yoda
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Link your assertions please or they have no relevance.
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Do Not take aspirin if you have the Flu!! Aspirin causes lungs to fill with blood.... that's what caused most of the deaths in the big flu pandemic!!! Tylenal only no aspirin!!
 Quoting: PHX57


Good to know!hf
 Quoting: BeezzzKneezzz


You should not take Aspirin at all. If you have a car accident, it raises your chances to bleed to death sharply! The effect of Aspirin goes on for one week.
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It has it's uses, they recomend taking a tab of asprin if you think you may be having a heart attack, I'm sure it's useful for other things as well.

[link to heartdisease.about.com]

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I've been sick with flu symptoms for three days and four hours.. Just keeps getting worse, and I NEVER get sick. Moves from head to chest back to head ect., but my daughter had it too, for four days.. Granted we are all fit and healthy people so maybe it was SARS and we just waited it out .. I say "we" because while I feel like dirt, I can tell ill get better.. Very strange indeed! My grandparents have had it for a week btw .. We're on the OH/WV border ..
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Coronavirus?
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I've been sick with flu symptoms for three days and four hours.. Just keeps getting worse, and I NEVER get sick. Moves from head to chest back to head ect., but my daughter had it too, for four days.. Granted we are all fit and healthy people so maybe it was SARS and we just waited it out .. I say "we" because while I feel like dirt, I can tell ill get better.. Very strange indeed! My grandparents have had it for a week btw .. We're on the OH/WV border ..
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My ex was really sick, flu-like symptoms, lots of cough out of nowhere just a couple days ago...
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My assertions have relevance. Do your own research.

google is your friend
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Thanks for the Bad Karma vote...

"Dude don't censor your threads needlessly"

I censor this thread because of the very dire need to try to protect human life.

Is that needlessly?

So let us all know who you are and maybe some other readers might return the Bad Karma favour to you.

There is no place here for junk and unqualified posts.

This really is a matter of life and death, it is not some juvenile game.

This is a very real and very deadly situation that is unfolding, if you cant appreciate that and dont value your life then at least leave those of us who do care, alone.

And I promise all those readers here that do appreciate this information that I will continue to censor junk posts for them.

arkay
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Quit drinking the fluoride. It depletes SELENIUM.

SELENIUM keeps the SARS from going lethal.




yoda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39812838


Link your assertions please or they have no relevance.
 Quoting: arkay


A little digging I found this:

acute poisoning depletes or causes relative deficiencies of calcium, magnesium, boron, iodine, selenium, zinc, C, E, D, K2
[link to health.groups.yahoo.com]

I know not really the end all of links hehe but its a dorr opener.

Also found links to alcohol also depletes selenium too.

and this part don't really link to SARS but I think it is relevent all the same.

Another dietary issue — specific nutritional deficiency — has also been tentatively linked to the emergence of new viral strains in rural China. For instance, in many parts of the country, the diet is lacking in the trace element selenium. A team led by Melinda Beck of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill found that when the coxsackievirus B3 infects mice deficient in selenium, it mutates at a much higher rate and can become more virulent
[link to www.nature.com]
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My assertions have relevance. Do your own research.

google is your friend
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No.

It is commonly accepted practice here that if you choose to make a statement of fact, that it is incumbant on you to post a link that will take readers directly to where you source your information.

Google...!!!

what?

where?

when?

why?

We dont know specifically what you are referring to.

You stop being lazy and follow the conventions on GLP or dont bother.

arkay
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bsflag

Around minute 4.

He starts talking about "what he's been told" - how we have an "antibiotic resistant flu virus."

He got that from a "very reliable source" - a "skilled, well-knowledgeable nurse".

I can't take shit like this seriously when it's so blatantly wrong about details that should be obvious.
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He comes across as very credible to me... very specific information.
 Quoting: TraderRob


I think what he was implying is that all flu viruses are antibiotic resistant. Antibiotics only work on bacterial infections.
 Quoting: GFX guy


Yes, but secondary, opportune infections are usually bacterial in nature taking advantage of immune attenuation caused by the virus.
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Thanks for the Bad Karma vote...

"Dude don't censor your threads needlessly"

I censor this thread because of the very dire need to try to protect human life.

Is that needlessly?

So let us all know who you are and maybe some other readers might return the Bad Karma favour to you.

There is no place here for junk and unqualified posts.

This really is a matter of life and death, it is not some juvenile game.

This is a very real and very deadly situation that is unfolding, if you cant appreciate that and dont value your life then at least leave those of us who do care, alone.

And I promise all those readers here that do appreciate this information that I will continue to censor junk posts for them.

arkay
 Quoting: arkay


Thread: HEADS UP TEXAS! ALABAMA TOO! Unidentified Illness 2 Teens 2 adults dead

Is this thread related arkay?

I will give you green Karma because this is an awesome thread very informative.

Thank you.
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Do Not take aspirin if you have the Flu!! Aspirin causes lungs to fill with blood.... that's what caused most of the deaths in the big flu pandemic!!! Tylenal only no aspirin!!
 Quoting: PHX57


Thank you. I never knew this.
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Thanks for the Bad Karma vote...

"Dude don't censor your threads needlessly"

I censor this thread because of the very dire need to try to protect human life.

Is that needlessly?

So let us all know who you are and maybe some other readers might return the Bad Karma favour to you.

There is no place here for junk and unqualified posts.

This really is a matter of life and death, it is not some juvenile game.

This is a very real and very deadly situation that is unfolding, if you cant appreciate that and dont value your life then at least leave those of us who do care, alone.

And I promise all those readers here that do appreciate this information that I will continue to censor junk posts for them.

arkay
 Quoting: arkay


I completely respect and understand your reasoning, but you cant honestly be surprised by red karma when your censoring, especially here :p ... I will give you green to counter, but maybe toughen your skin a bit tighter..

hf
arkay  (OP)

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bsflag

Around minute 4.

He starts talking about "what he's been told" - how we have an "antibiotic resistant flu virus."

He got that from a "very reliable source" - a "skilled, well-knowledgeable nurse".

I can't take shit like this seriously when it's so blatantly wrong about details that should be obvious.
 Quoting: ssle


He comes across as very credible to me... very specific information.
 Quoting: TraderRob


I think what he was implying is that all flu viruses are antibiotic resistant. Antibiotics only work on bacterial infections.
 Quoting: GFX guy


Yes, but secondary, opportune infections are usually bacterial in nature taking advantage of immune attenuation caused by the virus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31036731


What you say about viruses being untreatable by "antibiotics" as their name suggests is correct, they are not anti-virals.

And your comments about secondary infections is also correct, they will easily affect/ infect a compromised and weakened immune system.

As a matter of interest.

One thing that we do know about MERS-cov is that in alsmost all cases that we have managed to learn some information about.

Most cases have had pre-disposing conditions.

In other words they have been easy targets for this novel coronavirus because the health of its victims has been compromised before infection with MERS-cov.
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Do Not take aspirin if you have the Flu!! Aspirin causes lungs to fill with blood.... that's what caused most of the deaths in the big flu pandemic!!! Tylenal only no aspirin!!
 Quoting: PHX57


I <3 you for this! I have always been careful with asprin and the flu but I never knew why.. I had just been told, my mom had been told, ect., but this makes complete sense.
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My mom is really, really sick with a respiratory illness that her dr. can't pinpoint. Damn.
 Quoting: TOTRhombus


fungus is amongus

nasty stuff

bet heis treating it with antibiotics, thus making it worse
arkay  (OP)

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Thanks for the Bad Karma vote...

"Dude don't censor your threads needlessly"

I censor this thread because of the very dire need to try to protect human life.

Is that needlessly?

So let us all know who you are and maybe some other readers might return the Bad Karma favour to you.

There is no place here for junk and unqualified posts.

This really is a matter of life and death, it is not some juvenile game.

This is a very real and very deadly situation that is unfolding, if you cant appreciate that and dont value your life then at least leave those of us who do care, alone.

And I promise all those readers here that do appreciate this information that I will continue to censor junk posts for them.

arkay
 Quoting: arkay


Thread: HEADS UP TEXAS! ALABAMA TOO! Unidentified Illness 2 Teens 2 adults dead

Is this thread related arkay?

I will give you green Karma because this is an awesome thread very informative.

Thank you.
 Quoting: LIL' ANGEL


Thank you very much for your vey kind offer.

At this point in time Im not aware of any connections.

That is not to say that these arent connected and with the information blackout from the CDC amongst others it may never be known.

I did see that thread and I also wondered, but we simply have no way of knowing with any real level of certainty.

I guess the real message here for all of us is just caution, caution, and more caution.

Pay very careful attention to any related information that might surface.

Other than that, perhaps source your supplies of the basics before they become hard to obtain.

Tissues, face masks in particular, and alcohol hand lotions, is all most really need, at least for now.

Hope this helps
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Thanks for the Bad Karma vote...

"Dude don't censor your threads needlessly"

I censor this thread because of the very dire need to try to protect human life.

Is that needlessly?

So let us all know who you are and maybe some other readers might return the Bad Karma favour to you.

There is no place here for junk and unqualified posts.

This really is a matter of life and death, it is not some juvenile game.

This is a very real and very deadly situation that is unfolding, if you cant appreciate that and dont value your life then at least leave those of us who do care, alone.

And I promise all those readers here that do appreciate this information that I will continue to censor junk posts for them.

arkay
 Quoting: arkay


I completely respect and understand your reasoning, but you cant honestly be surprised by red karma when your censoring, especially here :p ... I will give you green to counter, but maybe toughen your skin a bit tighter..

hf
 Quoting: MrsCrickets


Thank you too MrsCrickets.

Ive got a pretty tough hide and having been a nurse I admit to having a very soft heart with an immense love and respect for human life.

I wasnt surprised re the Red Karma, its happened previously but it saddens me innensly that some people have such a shallow appreciation for the good that others offer that reflects their higher values.

Not to mind, the world is made of a complete tapestry of people giving us all the riches it does, one way or another.

again thank you for your generosity and care.

It is appreciated in its fullest extent.

arkay
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Morning arkay!
Thank you so much for bringing this forward. We knew it was coming, only a matter of time. Forewarned is forearmed, as they say.
I know this thread will be a wealth of good, solid information going forward.
Thanks again.
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Thanks for the Bad Karma vote...

"Dude don't censor your threads needlessly"

I censor this thread because of the very dire need to try to protect human life.

Is that needlessly?

So let us all know who you are and maybe some other readers might return the Bad Karma favour to you.

There is no place here for junk and unqualified posts.

This really is a matter of life and death, it is not some juvenile game.

This is a very real and very deadly situation that is unfolding, if you cant appreciate that and dont value your life then at least leave those of us who do care, alone.

And I promise all those readers here that do appreciate this information that I will continue to censor junk posts for them.

arkay
 Quoting: arkay


I completely respect and understand your reasoning, but you cant honestly be surprised by red karma when your censoring, especially here :p ... I will give you green to counter, but maybe toughen your skin a bit tighter..

hf
 Quoting: MrsCrickets


Thank you too MrsCrickets.

Ive got a pretty tough hide and having been a nurse I admit to having a very soft heart with an immense love and respect for human life.

I wasnt surprised re the Red Karma, its happened previously but it saddens me innensly that some people have such a shallow appreciation for the good that others offer that reflects their higher values.

Not to mind, the world is made of a complete tapestry of people giving us all the riches it does, one way or another.

again thank you for your generosity and care.

It is appreciated in its fullest extent.

arkay
 Quoting: arkay


Awe :) Well thanks for being one of the good ones, this information is at least making me keep a closer eye on the rest of our family.
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Bring out your dead!
Bring out your dead!

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Glycyrrhizin, an active component of liquorice roots, and replication of SARS-associated coronavirus.
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Morning arkay!
Thank you so much for bringing this forward. We knew it was coming, only a matter of time. Forewarned is forearmed, as they say.
I know this thread will be a wealth of good, solid information going forward.
Thanks again.
 Quoting: Vic-chick13


Hi Vic-chick13,

its always a real pleasure to have you around and I humbly offer my thanks for your kind words.

Naturally we would love to hear of anything you might turn up also.

You already know my feelings on this so please participate.

I do look forward to hearing anwthing you might wish to post here.

Stay well

arkay
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Thanks for the Bad Karma vote...

"Dude don't censor your threads needlessly"

I censor this thread because of the very dire need to try to protect human life.

Is that needlessly?

So let us all know who you are and maybe some other readers might return the Bad Karma favour to you.

There is no place here for junk and unqualified posts.

This really is a matter of life and death, it is not some juvenile game.

This is a very real and very deadly situation that is unfolding, if you cant appreciate that and dont value your life then at least leave those of us who do care, alone.

And I promise all those readers here that do appreciate this information that I will continue to censor junk posts for them.

arkay
 Quoting: arkay


I completely respect and understand your reasoning, but you cant honestly be surprised by red karma when your censoring, especially here :p ... I will give you green to counter, but maybe toughen your skin a bit tighter..

hf
 Quoting: MrsCrickets


Thank you too MrsCrickets.

Ive got a pretty tough hide and having been a nurse I admit to having a very soft heart with an immense love and respect for human life.

I wasnt surprised re the Red Karma, its happened previously but it saddens me innensly that some people have such a shallow appreciation for the good that others offer that reflects their higher values.

Not to mind, the world is made of a complete tapestry of people giving us all the riches it does, one way or another.

again thank you for your generosity and care.

It is appreciated in its fullest extent.

arkay
 Quoting: arkay


Awe :) Well thanks for being one of the good ones, this information is at least making me keep a closer eye on the rest of our family.
 Quoting: MrsCrickets


Thank you.

We have already become worthwhile.

I am humbled and I sincerely wish you and your family constant health and happiness.

cheers

arkay





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