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(OP) User ID: 830562 United States 12/04/2009 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let’s establish Time Line terms from the Bible first. The seven year tribulation is the first seven years of the Millennium (a one thousand year period) in which The Messiah Reigns. The Millennium does not start after the Tribulation Period….It is a seven year period during the Millennium, the one thousand year period. Let’s go to 2 Peter. 2 Peter 3:8 8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. KJV Misconceptions About Babylon The Great One of the most common misconceptions about Babylon The Great is it was never called Mystery Babylon. I will prove this. Rev 17:5 5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. (KJV) Notice after Mystery there is a comma. Mystery, Babylon The Great, meaning this is a Mystery about “Babylon The Great”, always misunderstood as being called Mystery Babylon. This misinterpretation will lead people to believe that we are not supposed to know who she is, this is not the case. It is a Mystery about Babylon The Great which is being unveiled now in the Last Days, or as referred to in the Bible as the latter days, the day of the Lord, time of His wrath, time of troubles, His indignation, birth pangs (the tribulation period), and some other names that show they were NOT talking about the first Babylon which was a city. This is talking Babylon The Great, the hammer of the earth, the greatest military and economic power at the time of it’s destruction, is not a religion, not a false prophet, or as many Christians believe, and not the Radical Islamic movement, but it is a land, a place and/or country. But most important we will show that Babylon The Great is not Iraq. Note: Many of the scriptures in the prophecy’s do have a double meaning, but do not let this confuse you. Leading Up To The Day Of The Lord Babylon the Great is a Key country. Knowing who she is and the specific events that will happen, will open our eyes to the Day Of The Lord. This is one of the most controversial messages in the Bible. I feel the Lord is having me teach on this not to offend you, but to show with out a doubt, the day and the hour in which we live. If you will open your heart here, the Lord heeds you a Great Warning, as he always does, just as in the day of Sodom and Gomorrah where he delivered Lot and his family out of his wrath, and as in the days of Noah, where he delivered Noah and his family, and the animals from the Great Flood. Here is The Lesson Gen 19:26 26 But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt. KJV Note: What really happened here with Lot’s wife? Was it that she looked back? I don’t believe so, it was where Her heart was. She did not want it to happen. She was addicted to the immoral ways that they lived, and whose fault was that? It was her husband Lot’s fault, history repeats itself. Like Adam, Lot did not tend to his Garden. History always repeats itself, lets look in Ecclesiastes Eccl 1:9 9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. KJV As in the Day of Noah Instead of scoffing at Noah, and where did that get the people who were outside of the Ark, or the people who stayed in Sodom? The door to the Ark is still open for now, so don’t let history repeat itself at the price that it cost…Follow G-d this time, He’s got a plan. The Feast Day Rosh Hashanah is the Opening of the Gates, let’s get in the Ark this time. I will cover The Opening Of the Gates later in this Lesson, I will let you think on this a while. Amen [link to wsopne.org] Last Edited by WSOPNE777 on 12/04/2009 05:14 PM |
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User ID: 833561 United Kingdom 12/04/2009 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God. Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman]. STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
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(OP) User ID: 830562 United States 12/04/2009 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jer 49:39 39 But it shall come to pass in the latter days, that I will bring again the captivity of Elam, saith the LORD. KJV Here in Jeremiah he refers to the Latter Days…Now what does that mean? Let’s go to the Hebrew in which the word was written originally. The word Latter comes from a Hebrew word: Strong’s # 319 OT:319 ‘achariyth (akh-ar-eeth’); from OT:310; the last or end, hence, the future; also posterity: KJV-(last, latter) end (time), hinder (utter) -most, length, posterity, remnant, residue, reward. Most Messianic Rabbi’s will tell you that the word “achariyth”in Hebrew means the time when Messiah Reigns. So when is the time that our Messiah Reigns? It cannot be the time of the first Babylon, right? So in Jeremiah 49:39 he mentions this time being the Latter Days talking about the time Messiah reigns. Right? Let’s move on. Description Of The People Jer 50:1 50:1 The word that the LORD spake against Babylon and against the land of the Chaldeans by Jeremiah the prophet. KJV Now how were the Chaldean’s described in the Book of Isaiah? Remember we are talking about the Babylon in the Latter days and that some of these verses have two meanings. Don’t let this confuse you. Isa 18:2 2 That sendeth ambassadors by the sea, even in vessels of bulrushes upon the waters, saying, Go, ye swift messengers, to a nation scattered and peeled, to a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden down, whose land the rivers have spoiled! KJV Isaiah says “to a nation scattered and peeled:” this means a nation of tall people and smooth of skin. This really is not describing the Iraqi people. This may have described the Chadians of then, but again, what days are we talking about in this prophecy? This is in the Latter Days. Another description of Babylon The Great here in Jeremiah 50:11-12 Jer 50:11-12 11 Because ye were glad, because ye rejoiced, O ye destroyers of mine heritage, because ye are grown fat as the heifer at grass, and bellow as bulls; Let’s stop here. Babylon the Great is described here as a country who has become fat, prospering from third world rogue nations. And also, “O ye destroyers of mine heritage” This is the Babylon of the Latter days. They have made Israel , by applying political pressure to their government to give their land away in the name of a false Peace Treaty. This cannot be Iraq, because Iraq is not making Israel give her land away. Let’s go to the next verse. 12 Your mother shall be sore confounded; she that bare you shall be ashamed: behold, the hindermost of the nations shall be a wilderness, a dry land, and a desert. KJV Here in verse 12, This Babylon has a mother country, (and she is ashamed of her). Iraq does not have a mother country. And there is another description here, (the Hindermost of all Nations), means the Last of the most powerful Nations. Again, this never was and will never be Iraq. Now here, Babylon The Great is called the Hammer of the whole earth, Jeremiah 50:23 Jer 50:23 23 How is the hammer of the whole earth cut asunder and broken! how is Babylon become a desolation among the nations! KJV Now here Hammer means (Police), so in Jeremiah 50:23 it says she is the police of the whole earth. This is not Iraq. Now let’s go to Jeremiah 51:7 Jer 51:7 7 Babylon hath been a golden cup in the LORD’s hand, that made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad. KJV This scripture is talking about Babylon The Great being a nation that stood behind His people (Israel) and G-d had blessed this nation. She made the whole earth drunk with her money. This nation is a great purchaser of goods all over the world. The third world has suffered greatly from Babylon The Great prospering in the world. Now Babylon The Great has done this at the cost of many nations…and they Hate her for it! This is not Iraq. People, stay with me! [link to wsopne.org] Last Edited by WSOPNE777 on 12/04/2009 05:14 PM |
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(OP) User ID: 830562 United States 12/04/2009 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Babylon the Great or Mystery Babylon is Rome. I thought it could have been America at first but the city with 7 hills, has to be Rome. Looks like Rome, Italy will be destroyed during the end of days somehow Quoting: Anonymous Coward 833688but they don't fit any other description....Babylon, will be destroyed early on............ Rome plays a part Cant be Rome [link to wsopne.org] Last Edited by WSOPNE777 on 12/04/2009 11:14 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 833688 United States 12/04/2009 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Babylon the Great or Mystery Babylon is Rome. I thought it could have been America at first but the city with 7 hills, has to be Rome. Looks like Rome, Italy will be destroyed during the end of days somehow Quoting: WSOPNE777but they don't fit any other description....Babylon, will be destroyed early on............ Rome plays a part Cant be Rome What do you mean it doesn't fit any other descriptions? As you can also see in Nostradamus Quatrains Rome/Italy gets it bad! It all fits. Babylon is Rome, the city with seven hills. And the Romans killed Jesus. |
homemommy
User ID: 809529 United States 12/04/2009 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is none other than Jerusalem, the only city that could ever be a Harlot to God. The one He calls a whore. Read Ezekiel 16 and my post Thread: Who is Mystery Babylon? |
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User ID: 779169 United States 12/04/2009 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it takes alot of honesty and humility to accept that we may be fhe great whore of babylon . Then again we may not be Mystery babylon but we are most certainly Antichrist imho. Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty. -Thomas Jefferson Down these mean streets a man must go who is not himself mean, who is neither tarnished nor afraid. —Raymond Chandler, 1944 Is man an ape or an angel? Now I am on the side of the angels. —Benjamin Disraeli, 1864 I love America more than any other country in this world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually. James A. Baldwin |
WSOPNE777
(OP) User ID: 830562 United States 12/04/2009 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cant be Jersusalem God say come out of her my people and go to Israel..makes no sense.......... Cant be Rome......How Hammer means police....... how is Rome the Hammer of the Earth.......thay cant rule themselves [link to wsopne.org] Last Edited by WSOPNE777 on 12/04/2009 11:15 PM |
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(OP) User ID: 830562 United States 12/04/2009 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You cannot get the description from Rev alone......you'll never see it Jeremiah, Isaiah and more Ps I do not get my info from Nostradamus Last Edited by WSOPNE777 on 12/04/2009 05:55 PM |
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User ID: 773169 United States 12/04/2009 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Babylon was the seat of Idol worship, sex, worship,sun worship, astrology, fortune telling and other things condemned in the Bible. Thus it represents religious beliefs in opposition to God. Babylon the GREAT would be any and all religions today that hold on to religious customs/teachings such as those that originated in old Babylon of the Bible's time. Kind of like the Pope's fish hat, the Tau (Cross) Belief in the afterlife and Hell, belief in 3 in 1 God's (Trinity) Sex Worship (Easter) Even Christmas, based on the Saturnalia is based on Babylonian tradition. Last Edited by Dr. Gringo-Cracker on 12/04/2009 06:40 PM "Life is tough, it's tougher if you are stupid." - John Wayne Settle down Francis! |
Goddrunk
User ID: 833677 United States 12/04/2009 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Revelation 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. If the woman is indeed Jerusalem, then this in light of other scripture would seem to contradict that belief. Last Edited by Aenon on 12/04/2009 06:28 PM "He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." - Matthew 11:15 |
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User ID: 833677 United States 12/04/2009 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cant be Jersusalem Quoting: WSOPNE777God say come out of her my people and go to Israel..makes no sense.......... Cant be Rome......How Hammer means police....... how is Rome the Hammer of the Earth.......thay cant rule themselves A Woman Rides The Beast Roman Empire Rules Today P1 Roman Empire Rules Today P2 Last Edited by Aenon on 12/04/2009 07:28 PM "He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." - Matthew 11:15 |
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User ID: 773169 United States 12/04/2009 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It isn't a PLACE, it is a thing (Re 17:18-18:5) 18 And the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.” 18 After these things I saw another angel descending from heaven, with great authority; and the earth was lighted up from his glory. 2 And he cried out with a strong voice, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, and she has become a dwelling place of demons and a lurking place of every unclean exhalation and a lurking place of every unclean and hated bird! 3 For because of the wine of the anger of her fornication all the nations have fallen [victim], and the kings of the earth committed fornication with her, and the traveling merchants of the earth became rich due to the power of her shameless luxury.” 4 And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. "Life is tough, it's tougher if you are stupid." - John Wayne Settle down Francis! |
Goddrunk
User ID: 833677 United States 12/04/2009 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It isn't a PLACE, it is a thing Quoting: ^º^MoonBat(Re 17:18-18:5) 18 And the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.” 18 After these things I saw another angel descending from heaven, with great authority; and the earth was lighted up from his glory. 2 And he cried out with a strong voice, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, and she has become a dwelling place of demons and a lurking place of every unclean exhalation and a lurking place of every unclean and hated bird! 3 For because of the wine of the anger of her fornication all the nations have fallen [victim], and the kings of the earth committed fornication with her, and the traveling merchants of the earth became rich due to the power of her shameless luxury.” 4 And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. Technically, it's both. She's a whore because she's unfaithful. You can only be unfaithful if you were once faithful and committed. Rome (Vatican) is an apostate Christian system. Revelation 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. Revelation 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. Rome is also known as A City on Seven Hills [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to ezinearticles.com] Last Edited by Aenon on 12/04/2009 07:13 PM "He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." - Matthew 11:15 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 757968 United States 12/04/2009 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had a dream when I was young. About the Anti-Christ nuking the Unite States. In the dream, a law was made that everyone have to have a mark on either on their forehead or right hand and without the mark. No one could buy or sell. All the nation on Earth enforce the law, except one, United States. The United States didn't keep any of it people from getting the mark if they wanted it. They just didn't enforce it. When the Anti-Christ heard that the United States wasn't enforcing the law to take the mark. The Anti-Christ had the United States Nuke. Then I had a same type a dream, when I was 23 years old. In the dream, I can up to a building that had green color windows. I enter the building and approach a desk. Behind the desk stood a security officer with Roman type number written on his forehead. At first he stare at me. Then he said, Oh it's you. They're waiting for you. I enter a room that had a table with chairs around it. I set down in one of the chairs. In front of me, was a plaque that United States and Israel written on it. Across from me was another plaque, that had United Roman States written on it; And the person behind that plaque said to me. We had already put a blockade embargo against you. If you don't enforce your people to take the mark. We will go to war with you. Then I said, go ahead and tried. |
WSOPNE777
(OP) User ID: 830562 United States 12/04/2009 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its time to go home and get your family ready to go...... Things are about to happen...... I promise if you will read all that send you (scripture)and I have a lot of it......You will know who Babylon The Great is, Its not a religion, Its not a man, its not a church, Its not Iraq, Its not in Israel.............and its sure Not the Roman Empire Don't send me videos, "Show me in the Scripture" [link to wsopne.org] Last Edited by WSOPNE777 on 12/04/2009 11:15 PM |
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User ID: 774992 Canada 12/04/2009 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cant be Jersusalem Quoting: GoddrunkGod say come out of her my people and go to Israel..makes no sense.......... Cant be Rome......How Hammer means police....... how is Rome the Hammer of the Earth.......thay cant rule themselves A Woman Rides The Beast Roman Empire Rules Today P1 Roman Empire Rules Today P2 Subscribe to my blog: Exposing The Darkness End times headline news. Research and analysis of world events in light of Bible prophecy. [link to lionessofjudah.substack.com (secure)] |
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(OP) User ID: 830562 United States 12/04/2009 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know when God called me to preach........I didn't want to do it. So I told God, if I do this Lord, don't let me teach it wrong, God don't let me mislead anybody, this Babylon message, I have been accused of being unpatriotic, communist, subordinate and had people in my face ready to fight................. Most of them didn't get to serious after all. what I am trying to say here is, I love my country, but My government has been so good to many around the world. There has been a lot starvation over our greed, we only strive at expense of others.. Now you can learn here, teach something here...........or just confuse it so nobody gets anything from it, which will not happen very long....I'll be a man and walk away This I will leave all up to you.........I asked that you send no videos, this is a Bible Study / conversation Amen Last Edited by WSOPNE777 on 12/04/2009 11:49 PM |
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User ID: 833677 United States 12/04/2009 11:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Show Me Quoting: WSOPNE777Below is a copy-paste. Adding it because I really do not wish to type it all out myself. I apologize if that offends you. Please note that I do not necessarily agree with everything presented below. Mystery Babylon is a CHURCH: Quoting: [link to www.mystery-babylon.net] In the Bible a WOMAN symbolizes a CHURCH. This is an extremely important point that must absolutely not be overlooked as it proves beyond all shadow of a doubt that this “WOMAN” with mystery Babylon written upon Her head and riding a Beast (Kingdom) has to be a “Church.” Below are several scriptures that prove this is undeniable fact. The only question that then remains is which Church? Note that an unfaithful Church commits spiritual adultery. God also refers to Israel as a “Woman” (HER) as it represents the Old Testament Church that brought forth the Man child (Jesus Christ) in Revelation 12. Do not miss this really important point which is that God called Israel a “Harlot” and a “Whore” when she worshipped other gods and committed spiritual adultery. Which Church deleted the Commandment on idolatry and worshipped the SUN and has many pagan traditions? Which Church changed the Sabbath to SUNday in favour of SUN worship? Which Church has the statue of St Peter in St Peters Cathedral which was originally the statue of the pagan god Jupiter? This statue has had its foot kissed away and replaced several times because of the multitude that have bowed down to this statue and kissed its foot. This is unmistakable idolatry and especially when this was originally a pagan god. When the Church apostatized it was compared with a corrupt Woman * Jeremiah 3:1-25 “…If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? ...but you have played the HARLOT with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the LORD. 2 …you have polluted the land with your WHOREDOMS and with your wickedness. 3 …you hadst a WHORE'S FOREHEAD, you refusedst to be ashamed… 6 The LORD said also unto me… Have you seen that which backsliding Israel has done? she is gone up upon every high mountain and under every green tree, and there has played the HARLOT… 8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed ADULTERY I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the HARLOT also… 20 Surely as a wife treacherously departeth from her husband, so have you dealt treacherously with me, O house of Israel, saith the LORD.” * Ezekiel 16:26-32 “You have also committed FORNICATION with the Egyptians your neighbours, great of flesh; and have increased your WHOREDOMS, to provoke me to anger… 28 You have played the WHORE also with the Assyrians, because you were unsatiable; yes, you have played the HARLOT with them, and yet couldest not be satisfied. 30 How weak is thine heart, saith the Lord God, seeing you doest all these things, the work of an imperious WHORISH WOMAN; 31 In that you buildest thine eminent place in the head of every way, and makest thine high place in every street; and have not been as an HARLOT, in that you scornest hire; 32 But as a wife that committeth ADULTERY, which taketh strangers instead of her husband!” * Revelation 17:1-3 “…Come hither; I will show unto you the judgment of the great WHORE that sitteth upon many waters: 2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed FORNICATION, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her FORNICATION. 3 …I saw a WOMAN sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy… 5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON the great, the MOTHER OF HARLOTS and abominations of the earth.” God’s true Church is frequently represented as a Woman * Isaiah 54:5-6 “For your Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and your Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. 6 For the LORD has called you as a WOMAN forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when you were refused, saith your God.” * 2 Corinthians 11:2 “For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.” * Ephesians 5:31-32 “For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning CHRIST AND THE CHURCH.” Christ is represented as the Bridegroom and the Church is the bride which of course is a “Woman.” * Matthew 9:14-15 “Then came to him the disciples of John, saying, Why do we and the Pharisees fast oft, but your disciples fast not? 15 And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast.” * Revelation 19:7-8 “Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his WIFE has made HERSELF ready. 8 And to HER was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.” * Revelation 12:1 “And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a WOMAN clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:” Mystery Babylon is a CORRUPT Church: Just as a pure woman represents a pure Church, a corrupt woman represents a corrupt Church. The woman in white is Christ’s bride, the true Church. But Revelation 17:1, 15-16 and 19:2 call this second woman a “WHORE” or “HARLOT”, a fallen Church teaching false doctrines. Mystery Babylon is a RICH Church: This symbolic wicked woman, this corrupt Church is a rich one with gorgeous display. Revelation 17:4 says she’s “decked with GOLD and PRECIOUS STONES and PEARLS, having a GOLDEN cup in her hand.” Which Church would you say is the richest in the world? Mystery Babylon is a Church built on SEVEN HILLS or MOUNTAINS: This identification given in Revelation 17:9, is impressive and clear, for ROME is proverbial as “the city built on seven hills.” Webster’s large unabridged dictionary says this under the entry “seven-hilled”: “as, the SEVEN-HILLED CITY, that is, ROME, Italy.” Furthermore, Revelation 17:18 tells John, “The woman whom you saw is that GREAT CITY which reigns over the kings of the earth.” John wrote this using the present tense for the word “reigns” and he knew as well as anyone else that “that great city” was ROME. Mystery Babylon is a LARGE, WORLDWIDE Church: She sits on “many WATERS,” explained as being many “peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.” Revelation 17:1 and 15. The very word catholic means “universal,” and the Papal Church has the largest, most widespread membership in Christendom. Mystery Babylon is a Church that revives BABYLON’S pagan teachings: “On her forehead a name was written: MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT...” Revelation 17:5. Long before John wrote the Book of Revelation, the ancient city of Babylon had been completely destroyed and never rebuilt. For centuries it lay in ruins and had faded into insignificance. The apostle Peter could not have been referring to literal Babylon when he wrote in 1 Peter 5:13 that: “She who is in Babylon ... greets you.” For there was no Church or any other human institution in the desolate ruins of ancient Babylon. He was referring to ROME as all authorities agree. It is easy to see why early Christians used “Babylon” as a code word or nickname for Rome, for there are many striking parallels between the twin cities of literal Babylon of ancient times and figurative “Babylon” or Rome. Consider just a few: Babylon was the dominant warring power of its day and Rome was the dominant warring power of its own era. Babylon conquered Israel and centuries later, Rome also conquered Israel. Babylon destroyed the first Jerusalem Temple and Rome destroyed the second. Each carried sacred vessels from the Jewish Temple back to Babylon in the east and Rome in the west; each completely destroyed and devastated the city of Jerusalem; each carried away surviving Jews into captivity. Rome was Babylon all over again. As Babylon’s “carbon copy,” Rome provides a perfect example of history repeating itself! But more to the point, this woman who sits on seven hills which is this Church located in Rome, has revived the same pagan teachings that ancient Babylon taught ages ago. She baptizes them, sanctifies them, and brings them into the Christian Church. Ages ago, when presumptuous men tried to build the Tower of Babel at Babylon, God confused their language. Genesis 11:1-9. So here in the last book of the Bible, “Babylon” is a spiritual term referring to confusion, not the confusion of languages in the Old Testament but religious confusion as the Church drifted away from God’s Word. Mystery Babylon is a RELIGIOUS power dominating the CIVIL powers: Revelation 17:3 and 7 tell us the harlot, or fallen Church, is RIDING the beast. Daniel 7:17 and 23 tell us a beast represent a king or kingdom. When we ride a horse, we direct it and control it, so the picture God gives here is of a Church dominating the civil power. For centuries, the Papacy dictated to kings. When she wanted to punish or execute any who dared to question her teaching, she would often call on the police power of the state. Revelation 17:2 describes this harlot: “with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication.” She has influence over the kings of the earth, great influence over heads of state. Today, unlike other Churches, the Vatican exchanges ambassadors with every major nation on earth. They come to her city on seven mountains, and they bow before her, having “lived luxuriously with her.” Revelation 18:9 The Harlot and IMAGE Worship: Many false doctrines entered the Church, but let’s focus on just three: IMAGE worship, IMMORTALITY of the soul, and SUN worship. First of all, Babylon was the center of idol worship. Everywhere you turned there were images, idols representing the pagan gods, not just statues of Bel-Marduk, their chief god. King Nebuchadnezzar set up a huge golden idol and commanded all to bow down before it. But God’s Second Commandment in Exodus 20:4-5 FORBIDS using images in religious worship, FORBIDS bowing down before them. Today the Papal Church not only fosters those very things but also has DELETED the Second Commandment from its catechisms (official training manuals). The Harlot and SUN Worship: The main deity of Babylon and Egypt was the Sun god. Astrology and worship of the heavens originated in Babylon. But God calls it one of the greatest of “abominations” in Ezekiel 8:15-16. Roman Emperor Constantine was a sun worshiper who never gave it up. The Roman Church disregards not only the Second Commandment about image worship but also the Fourth Commandment about the Creator’s Seventh-day Sabbath, substituting the unscriptural SUNDAY. Mystery Babylon is the Mother of Harlots: This is because SHE has continued to have a massive impact on what truly does matter to God, i.e., His Church. She is the root of many false doctrines, has changed God’s law and shed the blood of millions of Christians etc. When Israel committed spiritual adultery, God called His Old Testament Church a “WHORE”, a “HARLOT” and a “WHORISH WOMAN” and accused her of “FORNICATION” and “ADULTERY.” The Catholic Church is guilty of much worse than Israel. In a recent address to the nations, Pope Benedict caused a major uproar among many Churches as he referred to the Catholic Church as being the “MOTHER” Church and called for all the daughter Churches to come back to HER. They are referred to as daughter Churches because they originally came from the Catholic Church, eg: Martin Luther, who had been a Catholic priest established the Lutheran Church. Sadly, many of the daughter Churches have also ignorantly inherited various false doctrines and this is why SHE is called the “MOTHER OF HARLOTS” as is Mystery Babylon. See mark of the beast and paganism for many images that reveal more on why God also calls her Babylon. "He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." - Matthew 11:15 |
Goddrunk
User ID: 833677 United States 12/04/2009 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know when God called me to preach........I didn't want to do it. So I told God, if I do this Lord, don't let me teach it wrong, God don't let me mislead anybody, this Babylon message, I have been accused of being unpatriotic, communist, subordinate and had people in my face ready to fight................. Quoting: WSOPNE777Most of them didn't get to serious after all. what I am trying to say here is, I love my country, but My government has been so good to many around the world. There has been a lot starvation over our greed, we only strive at expense of others.. Now you can learn here, teach something here...........or just confuse it so nobody gets anything from it, which will not happen very long....I'll be a man and walk away This I will leave all up to you.........I asked that you send no videos, this is a Bible Study / conversation Amen I think our United States government is apart of that Babylon system. I really believe it is and has been for many years now. Last Edited by Aenon on 12/04/2009 11:52 PM "He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." - Matthew 11:15 |
WSOPNE777
(OP) User ID: 830562 United States 12/04/2009 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Alright this is Good lets Just go through these scriptures that Goddrunk sent, and lets look at some parallel scriptures on the way this is a good start Last Edited by WSOPNE777 on 12/05/2009 01:38 AM |
WSOPNE777
(OP) User ID: 830562 United States 12/04/2009 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Goddrunk sent: part 1 Mystery Babylon is a CHURCH: In the Bible a WOMAN symbolizes a CHURCH. This is an extremely important point that must absolutely not be overlooked as it proves beyond all shadow of a doubt that this “WOMAN” with mystery Babylon written upon Her head and riding a Beast (Kingdom) has to be a “Church.” Below are several scriptures that prove this is undeniable fact. The only question that then remains is which Church? Note that an unfaithful Church commits spiritual adultery. God also refers to Israel as a “Woman” (HER) as it represents the Old Testament Church that brought forth the Man child (Jesus Christ) in Revelation 12. Do not miss this really important point which is that God called Israel a “Harlot” and a “Whore” when she worshipped other gods and committed spiritual adultery. Which Church deleted the Commandment on idolatry and worshipped the SUN and has many pagan traditions? Which Church changed the Sabbath to SUNday in favour of SUN worship? Which Church has the statue of St Peter in St Peters Cathedral which was originally the statue of the pagan god Jupiter? This statue has had its foot kissed away and replaced several times because of the multitude that have bowed down to this statue and kissed its foot. This is unmistakable idolatry and especially when this was originally a pagan god. Dom Wrote Im reading it now brb |
WSOPNE777
(OP) User ID: 830562 United States 12/05/2009 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who is the Federal Reserve....most us know that it is not part of the United Sates right The Federal Reserve is the World Bank (the Bank of England) made up of the Rothschild s, Rockefeller and a few others. That is where all the machines are...........right? do we agree so far Lets suppose for just for a moment that this is what the Bible refers to as the The Beast............k just for a minute |