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Babylon The Great America

 
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Statue Of Liberty

this is something

Zechariah 5:6-11
6 And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah that goeth forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth.

Ephah in Hebrew means Basket............she was brought in a Crate from France

7 And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah.

8 And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof.

9 Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.

10 Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah?
11 And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base.
KJV

Put on her own Base

Shinar is a another name for Babylon

Now 1st five verses

Zechariah 5:1-5

Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll.

2 And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits.

It was a curse sent here

3 Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it.

read this

4 I will bring it forth, saith the Lord of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name: and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof.

5 Then the angel that talked with me went forth, and said unto me, Lift up now thine eyes, and see what is this that goeth forth.
KJV

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Vladimir Putin is God's New Cyrus. :)



Important

Go back and read what I posted about white horses.

A warrior on a white horse is now on Russian flags,
military uniforms, standards, equipment, etc.




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Even Hitler called Russia, Persia.

Think on these things and I will return tomorrow.


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Russia is a little north of Persia but they do intercept.

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In Mein Kampf, Hitler called Russia the
"Persian empire in the east..."

Those who have read and understood my posts
related to God's Anointed, the Persian King,
Cyrus, and how he was raised up by God to
conquer Babylon and liberate God's People,
will understand the symbolism .




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Statue Of Liberty

this is something

Zechariah 5:6-11

6 And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah that goeth forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth.

Ephah in Hebrew means Basket............she was brought in a Crate from France

7 And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah.

8 And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof.

9 Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.

10 Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah?
11 And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base.
KJV

Put on her own Base

Shinar is a another name for Babylon


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Very interesting.


She does have sisters.

See photos

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Here is the NIV version of Zechariah 5:5-11


Then the angel who was speaking to me came forward and said to me, "Look up and see what this is that is appearing."

I asked, "What is it?"

He replied, "It is a measuring basket. " And he added, "This is the iniquity of the people throughout the land."

Then the cover of lead was raised, and there in the basket sat a woman!

He said, "This is wickedness," and he pushed her back into the basket and pushed the lead cover down over its mouth.

Then I looked up—and there before me were two women, with the wind in their wings! They had wings like those of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between heaven and earth.

"Where are they taking the basket?" I asked the angel who was speaking to me.

He replied, "To the country of Babylonia to build a house for it. When it is ready, the basket will be set there in its place."





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That there in Zechariah 5:1-11 is absolute proof who Babylon is..,...........your gonna have to go along way to discredit that or tear that page out of your Bible...........or get that Bible Magic marker out, better get the Black one.,

This is a problem for all you folks who do not know who she is

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Zechariah Isaiah Jeremiah

then read Revelations and you will see what John was seeing.....

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I got a lot more too.....
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I wrote a book on this, we are still in the process of Publishing it............
Pray that we raise all the Money soon........
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Now 1st five verses

Zechariah 5:1-5

Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll.

2 And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits.

It was a curse sent here

3 Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it.

read this

4 I will bring it forth, saith the Lord of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name: and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof.

5 Then the angel that talked with me went forth, and said unto me, Lift up now thine eyes, and see what is this that goeth forth.

KJV

 Quoting: WSOPNE777





The Jeremiah 50 & 51 prophecies of the destruction of Babylon
were written down [as on a scroll], bound and cast into
the Euphrates river [Jeremiah 51:63-64.]

The ancient city of Babylon sat upon the Euphrates River.

God's Anointed King of Persia, Cyrus, could not conquer
Babylon via a frontal assault; so his army spent a year
digging canals. When the time was right, Cyrus' army
diverted the water of the Euphrates River and entered
Babylon secretly along the dried up river bed. Babylon
fell instantly to Cyrus' ingenious surprise attack.

When the water of the Euphrates river was dried up, this
symbolically released the bound prophecies of Babylon's
demise... this is the analogy of Rev 16:12 and Rev 9:14.



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I got a lot more too.....

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I'm interested.



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Goddrunk and Anonymous need to read that.......
If there pride don't get the way, They should see this.
God gave this message to me a little over a year ago......
It changed my life and my call.

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I'm interested.



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I have to run for a little while........
I send more later
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Babylon is not America. Only part of America.

Babylon is a group of several thousand people in multiple cartels all working together.
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Babylon is not America. Only part of America.

Babylon is a group of several thousand people in multiple cartels all working together.
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last night it was just rome.......make up my mind

You need to wake up and quit foolin around with God

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Right here In Black And White......What Land was it Brought to

Zechariah 5
5 Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll.

2 And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits.

3 Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it.

4 I will bring it forth, saith the Lord of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name: and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof.

5 Then the angel that talked with me went forth, and said unto me, Lift up now thine eyes, and see what is this that goeth forth.

6 And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah that goeth forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth.

7 And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah.
8 And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof.

9 Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.
10 Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah?

11 And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base.
KJV
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I know just enough, to know how much I don't know.
But what i do know, I know.
I have done my homework here.
you better come with your guns loaded on this subject, or stay home

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I have shared some of my Biblical and historical knowledge
of ancient archetypes, Babylon and Persia.

I hope you found it interesting and educational.



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I have shared some of my Biblical and historical knowledge
of ancient archetypes, Babylon and Persia.

I hope you found it interesting and educational.



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Iran, Persia/Medes is also found in (Jeremiah 51)(v.11 & 28)

Jeremiah 51
1Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will raise up against Babylon, and against them that dwell in the midst of them that rise up against me, a destroying wind;

2And will send unto Babylon fanners, that shall fan her, and shall empty her land: for in the day of trouble they shall be against her round about.

3Against him that bendeth let the archer bend his bow, and against him that lifteth himself up in his brigandine: and spare ye not her young men; destroy ye utterly all her host.

4Thus the slain shall fall in the land of the Chaldeans, and they that are thrust through in her streets.

5For Israel hath not been forsaken, nor Judah of his God, of the LORD of hosts; though their land was filled with sin against the Holy One of Israel.

6Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this is the time of the LORD's vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence.

7Babylon hath been a golden cup in the LORD's hand, that made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad.

8Babylon is suddenly fallen and destroyed: howl for her; take balm for her pain, if so be she may be healed.

9We would have healed Babylon, but she is not healed: forsake her, and let us go every one into his own country: for her judgment reacheth unto heaven, and is lifted up even to the skies.

10The LORD hath brought forth our righteousness: come, and let us declare in Zion the work of the LORD our God.

11Make bright the arrows; gather the shields: the LORD hath raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes: for his device is against Babylon, to destroy it; because it is the vengeance of the LORD, the vengeance of his temple.

12Set up the standard upon the walls of Babylon, make the watch strong, set up the watchmen, prepare the ambushes: for the LORD hath both devised and done that which he spake against the inhabitants of Babylon.

13O thou that dwellest upon many waters, abundant in treasures, thine end is come, and the measure of thy covetousness.

14The LORD of hosts hath sworn by himself, saying, Surely I will fill thee with men, as with caterpillers; and they shall lift up a shout against thee.

15He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heaven by his understanding.

16When he uttereth his voice, there is a multitude of waters in the heavens; and he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth: he maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of his treasures.

17Every man is brutish by his knowledge; every founder is confounded by the graven image: for his molten image is falsehood, and there is no breath in them.

18They are vanity, the work of errors: in the time of their visitation they shall perish.

19The portion of Jacob is not like them; for he is the former of all things: and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: the LORD of hosts is his name.

20Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms;

21And with thee will I break in pieces the horse and his rider; and with thee will I break in pieces the chariot and his rider;

22With thee also will I break in pieces man and woman; and with thee will I break in pieces old and young; and with thee will I break in pieces the young man and the maid;

23I will also break in pieces with thee the shepherd and his flock; and with thee will I break in pieces the husbandman and his yoke of oxen; and with thee will I break in pieces captains and rulers.

24And I will render unto Babylon and to all the inhabitants of Chaldea all their evil that they have done in Zion in your sight, saith the LORD.

25Behold, I am against thee, O destroying mountain, saith the LORD, which destroyest all the earth: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee down from the rocks, and will make thee a burnt mountain.

26And they shall not take of thee a stone for a corner, nor a stone for foundations; but thou shalt be desolate for ever, saith the LORD.

27Set ye up a standard in the land, blow the trumpet among the nations, prepare the nations against her, call together against her the kingdoms of Ararat, Minni, and Ashchenaz; appoint a captain against her; cause the horses to come up as the rough caterpillers.

28Prepare against her the nations with the kings of the Medes, the captains thereof, and all the rulers thereof, and all the land of his dominion.

29And the land shall tremble and sorrow: for every purpose of the LORD shall be performed against Babylon, to make the land of Babylon a desolation without an inhabitant.

30The mighty men of Babylon have forborn to fight, they have remained in their holds: their might hath failed; they became as women: they have burned her dwellingplaces; her bars are broken.

31One post shall run to meet another, and one messenger to meet another, to shew the king of Babylon that his city is taken at one end,

32And that the passages are stopped, and the reeds they have burned with fire, and the men of war are affrighted.

33For thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; The daughter of Babylon is like a threshingfloor, it is time to thresh her: yet a little while, and the time of her harvest shall come.

34Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon hath devoured me, he hath crushed me, he hath made me an empty vessel, he hath swallowed me up like a dragon, he hath filled his belly with my delicates, he hath cast me out.

35The violence done to me and to my flesh be upon Babylon, shall the inhabitant of Zion say; and my blood upon the inhabitants of Chaldea, shall Jerusalem say.

36Therefore thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will plead thy cause, and take vengeance for thee; and I will dry up her sea, and make her springs dry.

37And Babylon shall become heaps, a dwellingplace for dragons, an astonishment, and an hissing, without an inhabitant.

38They shall roar together like lions: they shall yell as lions' whelps.

39In their heat I will make their feasts, and I will make them drunken, that they may rejoice, and sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the LORD.

40I will bring them down like lambs to the slaughter, like rams with he goats.

41How is Sheshach taken! and how is the praise of the whole earth surprised! how is Babylon become an astonishment among the nations!

42The sea is come up upon Babylon: she is covered with the multitude of the waves thereof.

43Her cities are a desolation, a dry land, and a wilderness, a land wherein no man dwelleth, neither doth any son of man pass thereby.

44And I will punish Bel in Babylon, and I will bring forth out of his mouth that which he hath swallowed up: and the nations shall not flow together any more unto him: yea, the wall of Babylon shall fall.

45My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the LORD.

46And lest your heart faint, and ye fear for the rumour that shall be heard in the land; a rumour shall both come one year, and after that in another year shall come a rumour, and violence in the land, ruler against ruler.

47Therefore, behold, the days come, that I will do judgment upon the graven images of Babylon: and her whole land shall be confounded, and all her slain shall fall in the midst of her.

48Then the heaven and the earth, and all that is therein, shall sing for Babylon: for the spoilers shall come unto her from the north, saith the LORD.

49As Babylon hath caused the slain of Israel to fall, so at Babylon shall fall the slain of all the earth.

50Ye that have escaped the sword, go away, stand not still: remember the LORD afar off, and let Jerusalem come into your mind.

51We are confounded, because we have heard reproach: shame hath covered our faces: for strangers are come into the sanctuaries of the LORD's house.

52Wherefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will do judgment upon her graven images: and through all her land the wounded shall groan.

53Though Babylon should mount up to heaven, and though she should fortify the height of her strength, yet from me shall spoilers come unto her, saith the LORD.

54A sound of a cry cometh from Babylon, and great destruction from the land of the Chaldeans:

55Because the LORD hath spoiled Babylon, and destroyed out of her the great voice; when her waves do roar like great waters, a noise of their voice is uttered:

56Because the spoiler is come upon her, even upon Babylon, and her mighty men are taken, every one of their bows is broken: for the LORD God of recompences shall surely requite.

57And I will make drunk her princes, and her wise men, her captains, and her rulers, and her mighty men: and they shall sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the King, whose name is the LORD of hosts.

58Thus saith the LORD of hosts; The broad walls of Babylon shall be utterly broken, and her high gates shall be burned with fire; and the people shall labour in vain, and the folk in the fire, and they shall be weary.

59The word which Jeremiah the prophet commanded Seraiah the son of Neriah, the son of Maaseiah, when he went with Zedekiah the king of Judah into Babylon in the fourth year of his reign. And this Seraiah was a quiet prince.

60So Jeremiah wrote in a book all the evil that should come upon Babylon, even all these words that are written against Babylon.

61And Jeremiah said to Seraiah, When thou comest to Babylon, and shalt see, and shalt read all these words;

62Then shalt thou say, O LORD, thou hast spoken against this place, to cut it off, that none shall remain in it, neither man nor beast, but that it shall be desolate for ever.

63And it shall be, when thou hast made an end of reading this book, that thou shalt bind a stone to it, and cast it into the midst of Euphrates:

64And thou shalt say, Thus shall Babylon sink, and shall not rise from the evil that I will bring upon her: and they shall be weary. Thus far are the words of Jeremiah.

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I have shared some of my Biblical and historical knowledge
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I hope you found it interesting and educational.



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Absolutely and Thank you
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Iran, Persia/Medes is also found in (Jeremiah 51)(v.11 & 28)

Explain a little further..........
Yes there is Dual Prophecy in Jeremiah

Is that what your saying

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"America The Babylon"
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Isaiah 18:2-7
2 That sendeth ambassadors by the sea, even in vessels of bulrushes upon the waters, saying, Go, ye swift messengers, to a nation scattered and peeled, to a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden down, whose land the rivers have spoiled!

Now Peeled and Scattered.........Means in the Hebrew
tall and Smooth of Skin......

well that is not Italians.Im Italian, Not Iraqis,

3 All ye inhabitants of the world, and dwellers on the earth, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign on the mountains; and when he bloweth a trumpet, hear ye.

Ensign means Banner

After what Trumpet...The Last Trumpet...the opening of the Gates


4 For so the Lord said unto me, I will take my rest, and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs, and like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest.
5 For afore the harvest, when the bud is perfect, and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall both cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks, and take away and cut down the branches.
6 They shall be left together unto the fowls of the mountains, and to the beasts of the earth: and the fowls shall summer upon them, and all the beasts of the earth shall winter upon them.

the only that will dwell inher after her destruction will be Demons

7 In that time shall the present be brought unto the Lord of hosts of a people scattered and peeled, and from a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden under foot, whose land the rivers have spoiled, to the place of the name of the Lord of hosts, the mount Zion.
KJV
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"America The Babylon"
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I dont care what he said........what does the Word say?
this book is true cover to cover........
and I am proving that
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I have shared some of my Biblical and historical knowledge
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I hope you found it interesting and educational.



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Iran, Persia/Medes is also found in (Jeremiah 51)(v.11 & 28)

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Also Isaiah 13


The Medes and Persians were Aryan cousins.

God's Anointed King, Cyrus, was half Mede and half Persian.


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I am not saying there is no symbolism, but sometimes we need to just read it......It tell you the truth,

when you study

There are 4 steps to Revelation Knowledge

1. Simulation (reading)

2. Meditation (think about it)

3. Incubation (Relax, let it go, forget about it)

4. Then comes Revelation (the Holy Ghost brings it back to you in REVELATION)

It would be very helpful to keep a globe handy


Now the only country that fits all these descriptions is still in between the Tigris and The Euphrates

Just above the 30 o/o line

Take a Globe form the Tigris and Go west.....who do you hit?

do the same east from the Euphrates

It says Beyond the two rivers

Isaiah 18:1
18 Woe to the land shadowing with wings, which is beyond the rivers of Ethiopia:
KJV

ethiopia should and is in most of the Bible interepted as CUSH

I have an acient map that shows two CUSH s

one in Mesopotamia and one in Ethiopia..........
it was not ethiopia...this is a translation error
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How in the world could the Whore/Harlot be any other than Jerusalem? That Jesus said' Woe to Jerusalem that kills the prophets and saints of God...The Harlot is drunk with the blood of the saints. Woe to Jerusalem, how often I wanted to gather your children together, Behold your house is left desolate!

Jerusalem all through the Bible is God's wife, she went whoring after other gods. Ezekiel 16 describes her as the prostitute.

Why do you ignore basic scripture?

The two witnesses lie in the street of the great city, also where Jesus was crucified...where was He killed?

Jerusalem.

The great city is called the woman.

Jerusalem said "May His blood be on us and on our children.

They killed Jesus, say what you want about the Romans, they wouldn't have done it if it hadn't been what the Jews wanted.

Google: Jerusalem, city on seven hills.
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Iran, Persia/Medes is also found in (Jeremiah 51)(v.11 & 28)

Explain a little further..........
Yes there is Dual Prophecy in Jeremiah

Is that what your saying
 Quoting: WSOPNE777

Yes.
Some will see few will listen, Bible prophecy is being fulfilled.
What is Iran up to? Seeking nuclear weapons and the destruction of Israel. Ahmadinejad believes he will help usher in Islam's mahdi/12th imam.
Now Israel wants to start the construction of the Third Jewish Temple in March 2010.
The antichrist will confirm a covenant with many but will break it at 42 months. He will then claim in Jerusalem (most likely the Jewish Temple will already be rebuilt) to be God and to be worshiped causing the abomination of desolation.


(Daniel 9)v.24-27
24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


In the book of Daniel, Persia/Medes is mentioned, also in Ezekiel 38 and 39.

(Daniel 8)v.20-27
Daniel 9-12
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ethiopia should and is in most of the Bible interepted as CUSH

I have an acient map that shows two CUSH s

one in Mesopotamia and one in Ethiopia..........
it was not ethiopia...this is a translation error

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There were two Ethiopias...
One was in Mesopotamia... this was the
Ethiopia of the classical story of how
Perseus rescued the Ethiopian princess
from the sea monster. Their son, Perses
was said to have founded Persia.

The origin of St George on a white horse
slaying a dragon originated with Perseus
and Pegasus... but the symbol goes back
much further than that. The symbol of a
warrior on a horse spearing the enemy being
trampled underfoot is Cyrus' family seal.

White horses were sacred to the ancient
Aryan Persians.


Today Russia has the symbol of St George
on a white horse slaying a dragon as their
government and military insignia.





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This was given to us approx.February 25 2009. Long before we had any idea who Barrack Hussien Obama was or would do to our country!
The answer to the mystery is obtained only when you see as a little child, and are willing to become aware that the persons, and locations listed in the KJV bible are right under your nose!
It strikes me as odd, with all our country has become that anyone would argue the following points, other than the desire to hold on to doctrine they have been taught by men who did not see these undeniable facts!

• AMERICA IS MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT WHORE WHO PERVERTED THE EARTH…THE CHURCH OF LAODICIEA WAKE UP ALL YOU LUKE WARMERS, WE NEED REINFORCEMENTS ON THE FRONT LINES!!!
12 th IMAM OF ISLAM
• BARRACK HUSSIEN OBAMA IS THE BEAST OF REVELATION
• ANTI CHRIST OF CHRISTIANS


Revelation 17:9 “ Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. (See the attached map)
America is the only country on earth with 7 mountain ranges:
1. Appalachian mountains
2. Rocky mountains
3. Sierra Nevada mountains
4. Cascades
5. Costal Range
6. Brooks Range
7. Alaska Range


[link to www.worldatlas.com]


SCRATCH MEXICO/ IT IS NOT OF AMERICA






(Note all these are within U.S borders)

Revelation 17:10 There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and another has not yet come, he must continue a short time.




Fallen means they are no longer in power! They are no longer presidents!


!!!!!!

THE BEAST


Revelation 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.

These kings (are presidents of the United States of America)
During the presidency of Bill Clinton the way was made for Islam to freely enter Europe. (At the time of his presidency there were 5 living presidents)
1.Gerald Ford
2.Richard Nixon
3.George H.W. Bush
4.Ronald Reagan
5.Jimmy Carter

[link to quotationsbook.com]




[link to media.nowpublic.net]


(Bill Clinton is the one that is) (Depends on what the meaning of is is )
Bill Clinton is and it is fascinating that God has given us such wonderful clues, pertaining to this wonderful moment we find ourselves living in!
(George W. Bush is the one who has not yet come)
: Note about George W. Bush
1. George W. Bush is the seventh of these presidents
2. The 2000 election was recounted seven times
3. George W. Bush kept us safe for seven years. (Not on my watch)
George Bush was only excepted as our leader for a short time, right after 9/11…..then the evil people in our country convinced the good people to turn on him, thus nullifying his authority and respect, and fulfilling the prophesy about him in the book of Revelation. Also know this, G.W.B. college nickname was TEMPORARY!
Do you understand the number 7 ?
George W. Bush is the Restrainer mentioned in 2 Thessalonians 2:7

2 Thessalonians 2
1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Clinton let them in, Bush held them back for seven years, Obama is their leader from this moment, till Jesus takes us home.

Revelation 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.

( Barrack Hussien Obama is the eighth of these presidents. )

Revelation 13:5
5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

THE BEAST.The bible says he only rules for 3 1/2 years which is 42 months
We are according to scripture, living in the last moments of time !
READ REVELATION, THIS IS HAPPENING NOW!!

He has used his authority as president to seal all his past i.e. birth records / college records, ect. Why was his first T.V interview to Islamic nations?
Why is he destroying America? Why is every decision he makes contrary to God’s word?

Revelation 17:1 Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and talked with me, saying * to me, come, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters.

1.Atlantic ocean
2.Pacific ocean (America is surrounded by many waters)
3.Gulf of Mexico
4.Gulf of Alaska
5.Bering sea (You can find these on the attached map)
6.Labrador sea
7.Artic ocean
8.Beaufort sea
9.Hudson bay
10.Caribbean

Barrack ; translated from Hebrew …… (Baraq) ….. LIGHTENING FROM THE SKY

Obama ; translated from Hebrew……. ( Bama ) ….. HEIGHTS OF HEAVEN

Luke 10:18 And He said to them, I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.

The world is in a mess, Satan has been cast to earth and has given all his authority and powers to Barrack Hussien Obama !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Revelation 17:15 And he said to me, the waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. (tongues meaning languages ) the U.S.A. has approximately 334 languages represented.
America was once spiritually radiant in Gods heart, but our modern world has either rejected or twisted Gods word to its own liking. We are all going to bow to God very soon and most don’t know what is about to happen. My Christian friend, we must wake up….the world is dying and in great need of a Savior. Revelation 21:17 The Spirit and the Bride say come, and let him that hearth say come; and whosoever will let him come and drink of the water of life freely.

Revelation 13:16-17 And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

WAKE UP FROM YOUR SLUMBER! YOU WILL SOON STAND BEFORE GOD ALMIGHTY!
(Obama is going to sign a 7 year peace treaty with Israel and islam !
Read Daniel 9:25-27) This treaty will be broken in the midst of it.

U.N. has already voted to begin a new monetary system called Artificial currency. Artificial is not a chip, it is artificial…take them at their word!
I believe the NEW monetary system will be BIO METRICS/ THE NUMBER OF MAN! Bio being human flesh and metric being the Number.
DO NOT RECEIVE THIS NEW MONETARY SYSTEM OR YOU WILL PERISH IN HELL FOR ETERNITY!

Barrack Hussien Obama is the son of the father of liars,…….Islam is his global army
Wake up from your slumber, we will all stand before Almighty God to be judged. Jesus Christ is the only way to spend eternity in Gods presence.
The path is narrow, and the gate is narrow that leads to heaven,
The path is wide and the gate is wide that leads to hell.
Which path are you traveling?

Where will spend eternity?
Repent from sin and surrender to Jesus Christ…..while you still have breath in your body
(Except a man is born again he cannot enter the kingdom of heaven)
If you know a real Christian ask them for spiritual help! If not, or better yet.. be bold and talk directly to Jesus Christ! The time is very short, DON’T MISS HEAVEN.

BIG BIG BIG P.S. ……..PREPARE FOR A DEVISTING FAMINE..COMING TO AMERICA VERY SOON!!!!!!!!
[link to www.thehorizonproject.com]

Sincerely in Jesus name, a Christian
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"America The Babylon"
Richard Coomes [link to www.americathebabylon.com]



I dont care what he said........what does the Word say?
this book is true cover to cover........
and I am proving that
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A bump for timely information bump

Thank you.


Actually, Mr. Coombes has done a good job proving the U.S. as being the Babylon of end times. It was by his works I first came to this realization.
Kletos, Eklektos & Pistos
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Be warned.

God's penalty for blasphemy is death.



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And that comes from an all loving god?hmmmmm?





"Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated."

Romans 9:13


Doesn't sound "all loving" to me.

Maybe you have another god in mind ?

So your god loves and hates just like a human?hmmmm






One has to remember the ancient texts were translated into Greek and the word hate in Greek means 'Less love" not hate as man knows the word today.

Lotus

 Quoting: Lotus Feet




God "less loves" Esau's descendants to death.

Read Obadiah 18


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