How many failed to read and understand the QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

simple!

God created evil so people would love!

without evil there would be no love!

without satan there would be no jesus!

it's his ying to his yang ya dig!?

Preacher Bob needs to pull out the Satan card again!

You know using Bible quotes to contradict each other is what Satan would do!

What is the human lifespan?

70 years.

Psalm 90:10
The days of our years are threescore years and ten.


120 years.

Genesis 6:3
Yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

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ouch

OK, I'm getting tired, so I'll give you just one more.

According to the Book of John, Jesus Himself uttered the following words: “If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven” (John 3:12-13).

But the Jesus made two fatal errors, proving to all, and for all times, that Jesus could not be the prophesied savior.

First, According to the cited scripture, Jesus had already ascended up to heaven, which could not be true!!!! John has Jesus saying things He could only have said after His death, resurrection and ascension. This passage clearly is nothing less than self evident fraud.

Second, according to the Old Testament, Jesus was not the first who ascended to heaven. Both Enoch and Elisha were taken into heaven long before Jesus. Here are the verses:

“And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him” (Genesis 5:22-24). The Old Testament account is confirmed by the author of Hebrews: “By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God” (Hebrews 11:5).

“And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces” (2 Kings 2:11-12).

Jesus, according to John, was apparently unfamiliar with the Old Testament. It is odd that John tells Christians that Jesus and God are equal (John 10:30; 1 John 5:7), yet the same John shows Jesus is totally ignorant of the Father’s writings! As they affectionately and eloquently say on GLP, WTF????

I have studied various versions of the Bible for over fifty years, and have found the book to be nothing mere than a badly written compilation of geographical and historical inaccuracies, scientific absurdities, incoherent dreams and visions, mystic symbolism, confusing theologies, filthy vulgarities, unimaginable brutalities, and hundreds of self contradictions (thousands if comparisons are made of purported direct quotations. I do not accept the Bible as the word of God, and this is not because I do not understand it, but rather because I do. The ultimate act of blasphemy is to ascribe such garbage to the Perfect Being.

Have you even read the bible?

Must everyone die?

Some people will never die.

Genesis 5:24
And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

John 8:51
Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.

John 11:26
And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die.

Hebrews 11:5
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him.


Everyone will die.

Romans 5:12
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men.

Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die.

There are different terms to describe people. Brother, neighbor, enemies.

Where is the contradiction?




But we are not to live by bread alone?
Where is the contradiction? If you are born that way? you adapt from the start?

Your line of thinking means that God doesn't love you if you are a Male, Female?






lets see what it says



yet another who MISQUOTES, DOES NOT SAY ALL.










sounds bad lets see.



Looks like YOU have to do your part, Kind of like Confess with Thy Mouth. If you don't do it and God made the promise and you have YOUR part to do and YOU Fail, IT IS ON YOU.

No contradiction.

2 versus 2 meanings

Pro 26:4 KJV - Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

"folly" dictionary meaning
1.) lack of understanding or sense,



Pro 26:5 KJV - Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

"lest" dictionary meaning
'1.) or fear that

"conceit"
1.) an excessively favorable opinion of one's own ability


Basically Ignore the Unlearned fool,
Answer the Learned Fool.

No doom

From what were the animals created?

Water

Genesis 1:20
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.


Ground

Genesis 2:19
And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air

yikes!

Is it OK to call someone a fool?

It's OK to call someone a fool.

Psalm 14:1, 53:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.

Matthew 23:17, 19
Ye fools and blind.

Luke 11:40
Ye fools.

Luke 24:25
O fools, and slow of heart to believe.

Romans :21-22
Their foolish heart was darkened.

1 Corinthians 15:36
Thou fool.

Galatians 3:1
O foolish Galatians.


It's not OK to call someone a fool.

Matthew 5:22
Whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

OUCHIES!

stop the bleeding

this is like when Pacquiao KO'd Hatton in the 2nd round!

One more, and then I really am done for the day. This is one about Paul's ignorance of the word "seed" as used in the Bible.

Paul tries to show that God's promise to Abraham was not passed to his children, but only to Christ because the Old Testament says the promise was made to Abraham's seed (singular) and not to his seeds (plural). This is exactly what Paul said:

“That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto. Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ” (Galatians 3:14-16).

Of all the comments made within the scriptures, this is one of the most absurd. Anyone who has ever read the Old Testament knows that the word “seed” is always used when referring to multiple descendants, and the word “seeds” is never – repeat never – used for this purpose. Anyone with a Strong's Concordance will quickly discover that the word “seed” appears hundreds of times in the OT; however “seeds” appears only once (Deuteronomy 22:9) and is used to describe plant life.

Even in the New Testament the word “seed” is always used when referring to multiple descendents. Outside of Paul's ridicules comment, the word “seeds” appears only three times in the NT (Matthew 13:4, 22; and Mark 4:31) and in each case describes plant life. Those who read Paul's erroneous definition in the KJV reference Bible are referred to Genesis 12:7 and 13:15. I will present those verses and a few others, and let the reader see how foolish Paul was.

“And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him” (Genesis 12:7).

“And the LORD said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward: For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever. And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered” (Genesis 14-16)

“And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be. And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness” (Genesis 15:5).

Gerald Sigal described Paul's comments in plain and simple terms: “Paul's claim that that a single individual is meant by the term 'seed' in Gen. 13:15 and 17:18 is fallacious. Nowhere in the Hebrew Bible do we find the plural of 'seed' used used with reference to human descendants. In all instances, the singular term seed is used in the plural sense” (The Jew and the Christian Missionary, p. 8).

Bible critic C. Dennis McKinsey probably said it best: “If 'seed' is referring to Jesus alone, then Gen 12:7 would mean that God gave Jesus, the creator of heaven and earth, the land of Canaan as an inheritance; Gen. 13:16 and 22:17 would mean Jesus was as numberless as the dust of the earth; Gen 15:13 would mean Jesus and a nation of Christs would serve Egypt four hundred years, and Gen 17:9-10 would mean that the covenant of circumcision was established with Jesus. Al these readings are, of course, absurd” (The Encyclopedia of Biblical Errancy, p. 404).

Paul was, without doubt, totally ignorant of the Old Testament in general and the Hebrew language in particular. It should be clear to anyone with no more than a few dozen fully functioning brain cells that the promise to Abraham was to be passed to his children and their descendants, not to Christ as Paul foolishly suggested. You don't have to be a genius, just read the Bible and you will understand.

I have made my case, but I have one parting shot to take at Paul. It is known that there are 60-80 million sperm cells per milliliter,and the average ejaculate is approximately 2 milliliters. If, as the Old Testament says, Onan spilled his seed to the ground rather than impregnate his deceased brother's widow (for which the Lord killed him), and if, as Paul says,the word seed is singular, how in the hell was Onan able to separate one single sperm cell from over one million others swimming in his seminal fluid?

Should you answer a fool according to his folly?

Yes.

Proverbs 26:5
Answer a fool according to his folly.


No.

Proverbs 26:4
Answer not a fool according to his folly.


These two consecutive verses directly contradict one another.

Verse 4 says not to answer a fool and verse 5 says to answer him.

Proverbs
26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit

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Has there ever been a just person?

No.

Ecclesiastes 7:20
For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.


Yes, there have been many.

Genesis 6:9
Noah was a just man and perfect....

Psalm 37:12
The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth.

Proverbs 3:33
The curse of the LORD is in the house of the wicked: but he blesseth the habitation of the just.

Proverbs 4:18
But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.

Proverbs 9:9
Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.

Proverbs 10:6
Blessings are upon the head of the just: but violence covereth the mouth of the wicked.

Proverbs 10:7
The memory of the just is blessed: but the name of the wicked shall rot.

Proverbs 10:20
The tongue of the just is as choice silver.

Proverbs 11:9
Through knowledge shall the just be delivered.

Proverbs 12:13
The wicked is snared by the transgression of his lips: but the just shall come out of trouble.

Proverbs 12:21
There shall no evil happen to the just.

Proverbs 17:15
He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.

Proverbs 17:26
Also to punish the just is not good, nor to strike princes for equity.

Proverbs 20:7
The just man walketh in his integrity: his children are blessed after him.

Proverbs 21:15
It is joy to the just to do judgment: but destruction shall be to the workers of iniquity.

Proverbs 24:16
For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.

Proverbs 29:10
The bloodthirsty hate the upright: but the just seek his soul.

Proverbs 29:27
An unjust man is an abomination to the just: and he that is upright in the way is abomination to the wicked.

Ecclesiastes 7:15
There is a just man that perisheth in his righteousness, and there is a wicked man that prolongeth his life in his wickedness.

Ecclesiastes 8:14
There is a vanity which is done upon the earth; that there be just men, unto whom it happeneth according to the work of the wicked.

Isaiah 26:7
The way of the just is uprightness: thou, most upright, dost weigh the path of the just.

Lamentations 4:13
For the sins of her prophets, and the iniquities of her priests, that have shed the blood of the just in the midst of her.

Ezekiel 18:5-6
But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right, and ... neither hath come near to a menstruous woman....

Ezekiel 18:9
Hath walked in my statutes, and hath kept my judgments, to deal truly; he is just, he shall surely live, saith the Lord GOD.

Hosea 14:9
The ways of the LORD are right, and the just shall walk in them.

Amos 5:12
For I know your manifold transgressions and your mighty sins: they afflict the just.

Habakkuk 2:4
But the just shall live by his faith.

Matthew 1:19
Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily.

Matthew 5:45
For he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Matthew 13:49
So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just.

Mark 6:20
For Herod feared John, knowing that he was a just man and an holy.

Luke 1:17
And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just.

Luke 2:25
Simeon ... was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel.

Luke 14:14
And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just.

Luke 15:7
I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

Luke 23:50
And, behold, there was a man named Joseph, a counsellor; and he was a good man, and a just.

Acts 10:22
And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God....

Acts 24:15
And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.

Romans 1:17, Galatians 3:11, Hebrews 10:38
The just shall live by faith.

Titus 1:7-8
For a bishop must be blameless ... just, holy, temperate.

Hebrews 12:23
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect.

James 5:6
Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you.

2 Peter 2:7
And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked.

How should the Edomites be treated?

Be nice to them.

Deuteronomy 23:7
Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother.


Kill them.


2 Kings 14:3, 7
And he [Amaziah] did that which was right in the sight of the LORD.... He slew of Edom in the valley of salt ten thousand.

Ezekiel 25:13
I will also stretch out mine hand upon Edom, and will cut off man and beast from it.

Obadiah 1
Thus saith the Lord GOD concerning Edom.... Arise ye, and let us rise up against her in battle.

Obadiah 8-9
Shall I not in that day, saith the LORD, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau? And thy mighty men, O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one of the mount of Esau may be cut off by slaughter.

no wonder there a black people thinking they are the true israelites

the bible isn't very clear at all anybody could be anybody!

By the way, you ask non-believers to let you know of biblical contradictions. Why don't you also ask Bible believing Christians to do the same since they cannot agree on what the Bible says.

There are many different Christian sects, each with its own particular beliefs. Some of the theological differences are insignificant, however some are critical. For instance, some Christians believe that salvation comes through faith alone and good works are meaningless; however, other Christians believe the opposite is true, that we are judged solely by our works, and that faith without works is dead.

Some Christians believe the doctrine of “once saved always saved” whereby those who accept Christ can thereafter continuously sin without jeopardizing their salvation; while other Christians believe the opposite, that those who sin after accepting Christ are worse than those who never learned the truth of Christ‘s salvation.

Some Christians believe that Jesus is merely the son of God, while others believe He is part of a co-equal Trinity, and still others believe He IS God. There are dozens of other doctrinal disputes among Christians, and in every case, these Christians with diametrically opposing theologies point to the same Bible to prove their conflicting positions. And in every case, there are indeed Biblical versus which, on their face, support each of the opposing positions.

The ultimate proof that there are contradictions in the Bible is that Christians unwittingly keep pointing them out to the rest of the world.

Good night.

Who tempted David to number Israel?

God

2 Samuel 24:1
And the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go number Israel and Judah.

Satan

1 Chronicles 21:1
And Satan stood up against Israel and provoked David to number Israel.

Has God ever tempted anyone?

God has never tempted anyone.

James 1:13
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man.


Many people have been tempted by God.

Genesis 22:1
God did tempt Abraham.

2 Samuel 24:1
And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go number Israel and Judah.

Matthew 6:13
And lead us not into temptation.

Is it OK to take a census??

Yes. Solomon had a census (like his father David's) and God didn't mind at all.

2 Chronicles 2:17
And Solomon numbered all the strangers that were in the land of Israel, after the numbering wherewith David his father had numbered them....


No. God killed 70,000 men because of David's census.

2 Samuel 24:1
And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah. ... And David's heart smote him after that he had numbered the people. And David said unto the LORD, I have sinned greatly in that I have done. ... So the LORD sent a pestilence upon Israel ... and there died of the people .. seventy thousand men.

1 Chronicles 21:2
And David said to Joab and to the rulers of the people, Go, number Israel from Beersheba even to Dan; and bring the number of them to me, that I may know it. ... And God was displeased with this thing; therefore he smote Israel. ... So the LORD sent pestilence upon Israel: and there fell of Israel seventy thousand men.

it's enough already

it's like michael jordan in his prime going up against john stockton

not fair

God offers David a choice of punishments for having conducted the census:

1) seven years of famine (1 Chr.21:11 says three years),
2) three months fleeing from enemies, or
3) three days of pestilence.

David can't decide, so God chooses for him and sends a pestilence, killing 70,000 men (and probably around 200,000 women and children).


How many years of famine?

Seven years of famine

2 Samuel 24:13
So Gad came to David and told him, Shall seven years of famine come unto thee in thy land?


Three years of famine

1 Chronicles 21:11-12
So Gad came to David and said unto him, Thus saith the Lord, choose thee either three years of famine.

After God threatens to kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people for a census that he inspired, David says, "let us fall now into the hand of the LORD; for his mercies are great."
Is God Merciful? See Previous Post)

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different versions of the Bible can contradict each other cant they preacher bob.
one man's Bible is another man's heresy.
not so?

Sorry Preacher but your ambilitions and your abilities are a country mile apart on this one.Your owned pal.

Lets see what the bible says




Where does it say "All are unclean and may not be eaten."


maybe you should re-watch your OWN VIDEO about being in a bubble?




YOU are the one in the bubble? MAKING UP IMAGINARY FACTS.

Now why would I want to do that?

It's right there in your own posting (now quoted and highlighted)


Deuteronomy 14:19
And every creeping thing that flieth is unclean unto you: they shall not be eaten.

Anyone can write a bible Satan has one,


These people think they can win on Legal Points.


Yet I am not a Judge, I just would like to know


How people add 2 + 2 + 2 = 5


Maybe some pattern.


All I can see so far is Misquotes, taken out of context, adding too. taking away.

Generally what they do their whole life, and thinking it will float.

Thank you,


Now that you see ONE line,

how do you equate "creeping thing that flieth"


to "All are unclean and may not be eaten. "



All does NOT equal creeping thing


And you even have

But of all clean fowls ye may eat

and

Of all clean birds ye shall eat.


So once again How do you make it equal?


I would like to understand.

Maybe some pattern.
maybe some scripture is deliberately altered in some versions, and contradictory to other versions perhaps.
yes i'd agreee with you on that point