How many failed to read and understand the QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2 choices:

1. The bible was written by God - Therefore, the bible contains no errors

2. The bible was written by people - Therefore, the bible contains errors


All the back and forth in the world won't change those two options. So?


Our Creator sent a Final Testament, without error or contradiction, to clarify what is in the previous Books.

The Bible was written by man, but the Truth is still inside. It's harder to find with all the additions and esoteric teachings.

Peace.

Sir do you truly understand the meaning of Isaiah as in your sig?

Does God create evil? Certainly not. If He was the author of evil, then He certainly would not be a good God that is worthy of worship and praise, much less trusted to have our well-being in mind. The idea of a good God creating His own enemy and the object of His wrath seems inconceivable. It would be inconsistent for a good God to mastermind the idea of evil, will it into existence, and still be considered a good God.

Rather, God created man in His image with the freedom to choose. With this freedom came the opportunity to rebel against Him. Man did rebel ( Genesis 3 ), and the rest is history. The annals of human history chronicle how God uses everything -- even the chaos of this world -- to bring about His glory and purposes. Those purposes include our growth in becoming more Christlike.

What's the point of Isaiah 45:7? God reveals His almighty and awesome character to us so we can relax with the confidence that comes from knowing, even in the most dark, desperate, and discouraging times in our lives, God is up to something good for us all the time.


Your starting to get it, however still caught up with your delusional christian brainwashing.
I will refer you to my other thread about how God's Plan is Ridiculous and Impossible.


Are you saying I brainwashed myself? Because nobody ever told me about God/Christ. I searcehd for the truth myself after no one bothered to try to tell me about the truth.

Although my family was/is Catholic, nobody bothered to explain things to me even though I asked many questions.


The Wholly-Babble is a brainwashing piece of propagandic lying bullshit.

2 choices:

1. The bible was written by God - Therefore, the bible contains no errors

2. The bible was written by people - Therefore, the bible contains errors


All the back and forth in the world won't change those two options. So?


Our Creator sent a Final Testament, without error or contradiction, to clarify what is in the previous Books.

The Bible was written by man, but the Truth is still inside. It's harder to find with all the additions and esoteric teachings.

Peace.


Either God wrote mankind a message, or not.

If we go with your theory (additions) it leaves too much confusion on what is divinely penned, and what is man penned from strictly man's inspiration. Then you have people saying what parts are genuine......and they are all different opinions. Too much room for human interpretation errors.

It's either the whole truth, or one must dismiss the bible as being authored by a divine and supernatural source.

So what really happened to Paul on the road to Damascus? You'd never know from reading the Bible.

There are several problems with Paul’s various accounts of his journey to Damascus. The first problem involves an obvious self-contradiction regarding what those who were with Paul saw and heard. According to one account (Acts Chapter 9) those with Paul heard a voice but saw no man; while in another account (Acts Chapter 22) the men with Paul did not hear a voice, although they did see a light. Here is what YOUR Bible says:

“And he [Paul] fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do. And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man” (Acts 9:4-7).

“And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest. And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me” (Acts 22:7-9).

The second problem deals with when and where Paul got his instructions from Christ; was it on the road to Damascus, or was it later in Damascus? According to Acts, Chapters 9 and 22, Christ gives Paul no information during the epiphany on the road to Damascus; however, in Acts Chapter 26, Christ tells Paul what God’s plans are for him. So what did Christ really say to Paul on the road to Damascus? The varied accounts of the Bible give no clue Here are the appropriate verses:

“And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do” (Acts 9:6).

“And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.
“ (Acts 22:10).

“And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest. But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee; Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee, To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me” (Acts 26:15-18).

So, what did Christ tell Paul on the road to Damascus? Christians don't know because apparently Paul does not know. Paul, one of greatest figures in all of Christian history, just can't seem to get his story straight.

The third problem is whether the men who were with Paul were standing or “fallen to the ground when they heard the voice (although according to one of Paul’s version, none of those with him heard a voice). The Bible gives two accounts, one (Acts Chapter 9) in which the men with Paul were standing (although Paul had fallen to the ground), and another (Acts Chapter 26) in which all the men had fallen to the ground

“And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do. And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.” (Acts 9:3-7 showing that the men with Paul were standing).

COMPARED TO:

“At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me. And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest. But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee” (Acts 26:13-15 showing that the men with Paul had fallen to the ground).

The oft-quoted story about Paul’s conversion on the road to Damascus is filled with contradictions. Some may find these contradictions to be minor; however, we are talking about a book which is, according to fundamentalist Christians, the complete, inspired and inerrant word of God. Since God is perfect, the authorship of any book which is less than perfect, cannot be ascribed to God or anyone inspired by Him.

please clean up your filthy mouth in future. if only for your own sense of self respect if nothing else.
as someone once said
considerate thoughts and actions demand consideration. (or something like that)

please clean up your filthy mouth in future. if only for your own sense of self respect if nothing else.
as someone once said
considerate thoughts and actions demand consideration. (or something like that)

When was Eve created?

At the same time as Adam?

Genesis 1:27
God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.


OR After Adam and all the animals were created?

Genesis 2:20-22
And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

When was Eve created?

At the same time as Adam?

Genesis 1:27
God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.


OR After Adam and all the animals were created?

Genesis 2:20-22
And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

You are basing your belief in the Creator of all things on your lack of understanding of scripture. Until you have the Holy Spirit, these things will remain a mystery to you.

You are basing your belief in the Creator of all things on your lack of understanding of scripture. Until you have the Holy Spirit, these things will remain a mystery to you.

i sense an air of upsettedness here.

"THOU ART SO FUCKING DOOMED!!"


the painfull resonance of your thoughts. my pity

When was Eve created?

At the same time as Adam?

Genesis 1:27
God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.


OR After Adam and all the animals were created?

Genesis 2:20-22
And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

You are basing your belief in the Creator of all things on your lack of understanding of scripture. Until you have the Holy Spirit, these things will remain a mystery to you.


Oh that is lame!

Address the contradiction, don't sidestep it.

And for your information I've been baptized in the Holy Spirit and have evidence thereof too.

i sense an air of upsettedness here.


Aren't you upset? Don't you hate lies? Don't you hate it when dipshits defend the indefensible? And especailly when they act all self righteous about it???

Do you like to watch MSNBC??? Or do you get upset by it?

Christians are no better and no different than MSNBC hacks defending the indefensible.

in the case of Hard's truth
Genesis 1 is simply an overview of creation, Genesis 2 is simply a more detailed view.
there is no contradiction.