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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 83156220 Canada 10/04/2022 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Revelation 12 talks about overcoming by the testimony of the blood and not loving their lives to death Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84277387 17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring—those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Yahusha. I doubt commandment keepers would be left to go through tribulation if there was a rapture. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84315088 10/04/2022 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then one of the elders addressed me, saying, “Who are these, clothed in white robes, and from where have they come?” I said to him, “Sir, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones coming out of the great tribulation. They have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Revelation 7:13-14 |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 83156220 Canada 10/04/2022 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you talking about the 144,000 Israelites, the Two witnesses, or something else? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84315457 No, I understand that. It’s the pre-trib rapture doctrine, it teaches about tribulation Saints, people that didn’t make the rapture and converted during tribulation. There’s nothing found in scripture that says this. I can’t find anything. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 83156220 Canada 10/04/2022 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then one of the elders addressed me, saying, “Who are these, clothed in white robes, and from where have they come?” I said to him, “Sir, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones coming out of the great tribulation. They have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84315088 Revelation 7:13-14 So they went through tribulation, yes! They weren’t raptured beforehand. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84277387 United States 10/04/2022 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then one of the elders addressed me, saying, “Who are these, clothed in white robes, and from where have they come?” I said to him, “Sir, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones coming out of the great tribulation. They have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84315088 Revelation 7:13-14 So they went through tribulation, yes! They weren’t raptured beforehand. I think it’s cus they weren’t believers before the rapture |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 83156220 Canada 10/04/2022 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then one of the elders addressed me, saying, “Who are these, clothed in white robes, and from where have they come?” I said to him, “Sir, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones coming out of the great tribulation. They have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84315088 Revelation 7:13-14 So they went through tribulation, yes! They weren’t raptured beforehand. I think it’s cus they weren’t believers before the rapture We can think what we want, but it doesn’t say anything like that in scripture. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 83156220 Canada 10/04/2022 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to this, wheat and tares are here till the Harvest, that happens on Yahusha’s return. Revelation 14:12-20 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. 13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them. 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. 16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped. 17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. 18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. 19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. 20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82744033 United States 10/04/2022 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you talking about the 144,000 Israelites, the Two witnesses, or something else? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84315457 No, I understand that. It’s the pre-trib rapture doctrine, it teaches about tribulation Saints, people that didn’t make the rapture and converted during tribulation. There’s nothing found in scripture that says this. I can’t find anything. The translation takes place at the last trump in the twinkling of an eye... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84315399 United States 10/04/2022 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Church, the Bride of Christ, true believers in Jesus Christ will be Raptured. Those that respond by believing like they have never believed before will refuse to take the mark and will give their lives in testimony of their faith in Christ - those that come out of the Tribulation and gain their white robes. The refined Remnant 1/3rd of Israel that confesses their sin against Christ, begs Him to forgive them and save them and rescue them and THEN HE RETURNS TO THEM. All true. Almost no one understands. . |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 83156220 Canada 10/04/2022 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you talking about the 144,000 Israelites, the Two witnesses, or something else? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84315457 No, I understand that. It’s the pre-trib rapture doctrine, it teaches about tribulation Saints, people that didn’t make the rapture and converted during tribulation. There’s nothing found in scripture that says this. I can’t find anything. The translation takes place at the last trump in the twinkling of an eye... On Yahusha’s return, yes! That’s there. Last trump - shofar blow. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 83156220 Canada 10/04/2022 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Church, the Bride of Christ, true believers in Jesus Christ will be Raptured. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84315399 Those that respond by believing like they have never believed before will refuse to take the mark and will give their lives in testimony of their faith in Christ - those that come out of the Tribulation and gain their white robes. The refined Remnant 1/3rd of Israel that confesses their sin against Christ, begs Him to forgive them and save them and rescue them and THEN HE RETURNS TO THEM. All true. Almost no one understands. . The rapture doctrine. It’s not in scripture. What’s the Harvest about then? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84247271 United States 10/04/2022 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I give up searching, I can’t find it anywhere. Quoting: -Kate- Need help please, people keep throwing that at me during rapture debates. They probably don't know who they really are according to the Bible, just according to their Churches Doctrine.. There is a lot of bad Doctrine out there. Biblically they would be the 144,000 Hebrews sealed in Rev Ch 7. 12.000 from each tribe. (notice nothing is directly said about Christians, in Revelation) Various Protestant groups and Pre Tribber's have tried to redefine the great multitude in Rev 7:9 as new Christians that are "saved" during the Tribulation. However they neglect to ask where all the Pre Tribbers are. Since they are not listed as being there and as worshipping God in heaven. OOPS! However the Tribulation is about Israel. AKA, the time of Jacobs trouble, not the world's trouble or the Christian's trouble. But Redefining the Tribulation(and the Rapture) is an Evangelical Christian's game. Mathew Chapter 24 sets us straight. The disciples ask: “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” Jesus then goes on to describe the highlights of the Tribulation period up to about the mid point, as found in Revelation. Then states in verse 30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. And after describing it in more detail he says in verse 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. Which no one will deny applies to the Rapture. But the events listed that are signs leading up to it :Places it as being Mid Trib. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82744033 United States 10/04/2022 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you talking about the 144,000 Israelites, the Two witnesses, or something else? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84315457 No, I understand that. It’s the pre-trib rapture doctrine, it teaches about tribulation Saints, people that didn’t make the rapture and converted during tribulation. There’s nothing found in scripture that says this. I can’t find anything. The translation takes place at the last trump in the twinkling of an eye... On Yahusha’s return, yes! That’s there. Last trump - shofar blow. This is the season... we dont know the time except things will come to pass as they are written... 1 Cor 15+ Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 57But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84315399 United States 10/04/2022 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ 1Thessalonians 5:9 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. Revelation 3:10 In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also. John 14:2,3 Come, my people, enter your chambers, And shut your doors behind you; Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment, Until the indignation is past. For behold, the LORD comes out of His place To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity; The earth will also disclose her blood, And will no more cover her slain. Isaiah 26:20:21 Seek the LORD, all you meek of the earth, Who have upheld His justice. Seek righteousness, seek humility. It may be that you will be hidden In the day of the LORD's anger. Zephaniah 2:3 For in the time of trouble He shall hide me in His pavilion; In the secret place of His tabernacle He shall hide me; He shall set me high upon a rock. Psalms 27:5 |