Where is Tribulation Saints mentioned in the Bible?

Correct, scripture is clear that during the 7-year tribulation there will be millions of souls saved to Christ through the work of the two witnesses and the 144,000. These saints are the ones in white robes mentioned in the scripture above. However, there is also strong support for a pre-tribulation rapture of all those saints throughout history, dead or alive, who belong to Jesus at the time the tribulation begins. So two groups of saints - the biggest group redeemed by faith before the tribulation begins, and the millions of "tribulation saints" who come to Jesus as a result of the tribulation. This is just how I see it.

It really doesn’t matter how we see things, it’s what all scripture says in context.

2 Esdras 7:52-62

52 “If you have just a few precious stones, will you add to them lead and clay?”
53 I said, “Lord, how could that be?”
54 And he said to me, “Not only that, but ask the earth and she will tell you; defer to her, and she will declare it to you.

55 Say to her, ‘You produce gold and silver and bronze, and also iron and lead and clay;
56 but silver is more abundant than gold, and bronze than silver, and iron than bronze, and lead than iron, and clay than lead.’
57 Judge therefore which things are precious and desirable, those that are abundant or those that are rare?”

58 I said, “O sovereign Lord, what is plentiful is of less worth, for what is more rare is more precious.”
59 He answered me and said, “Consider within yourself what you have thought, for the person who has what is hard to get rejoices more than the person who has what is plentiful.
60 So also will be the judgment that I have promised; for I will rejoice over the few who shall be saved, because it is they who have made my glory to prevail now, and through them my name has now been honored.

61 I will not grieve over the great number of those who perish; for it is they who are now like a mist, and are similar to a flame and smoke—they are set on fire and burn hotly, and are extinguished.”

62 I replied and said, “O earth, what have you brought forth, if the mind is made out of the dust like the other created things?

It’s a Narrow Path.

If Jesus never manifest the 144k is a pipe dream.

And why would you if you were Jesus and were the living word of god and could change it all to fit your own will.

Why would a God allow anyone in with all the wickness ? Why would he follow your script?

It is already true because it is written ,seen,and known.

Who Killed him the first time? Its true the world doesn't need a king or a savior . The world needs a destroyer.

Hello Op.

Please kindly describe your understanding of the phrase “end-times tribulation” and how it is different than regular life-ending tribulation currently being experienced by countless Christians in places like The Middle East, China, Pakistan, and say Hollywood.

Also, where do the “raptured” people actually go after being “caught up”?
Do they go straight to the New Heaven & Earth or a transitional place?

Personally, I broadly view the tumultuous period of time leading up to and including the exodus as a foreshadowing of “the end times” and tribulation.

The exodus itself being a type of rapture of deliverance from the oppressive situation and chaotic disintegration of what was left behind in Egyptian society. Most of the people who were raptured out of Egypt did not subsequently walk into “The Promised Land”.

For what it’s worth, I find it fascinating that God’s people were able to sustain their faith over hundreds of years without the benefit of the codified written word. (The Torah hadn’t been given until after the exodus started).

What scripture says they 'go' somewhere?

The Rapture is the First Resurrection.

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I would like you to support that belief with some scripture.

Paul speaks of the last trumpet in Corinthians and to when the rapture takes place.

1 Corinthians 15:51-52 King James Version
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
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Matthew 24:29-30 King James Version
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all nopes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
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1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 King James Version
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
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Jesus returns at the last trumpet and gathers his elect from the 4 corners and one end of heaven to the other. Unless one makes the case there are TWO raptures

In researching this, I have come full square, NOT knowing the timing of the rapture. At his 2nd coming seems most likely.
Since I don't attend church, can't find one that isn't "woke", I'm not listening to anyone else's interpretation of the Bible, only what I am reading.

Amen! We as Believers must be prepared for both possibilities. If one holds fast to a Pre-Trib thought and it doesn't happen, too many might lose their faith and all hope crying why wasn't I worthy.

The Bible does speak of a great falling away, is the lack of a pre-trib happening what causes this?

Prepare for a post-trib but HOPE for a pre-trib is how I look at it. I also lean more towards a post-trib

I believe this also ... but ... and it is a big but. What about those who are suppose to be persecuted for their faith? What about all the Christians throughout the world who are currently dying for their faith? Yes it states that a portion will be protected but others would be killed.

We all must have the faith to survive what will come one day.
I am not brave to pain but brave in faith, if that makes sense.

Maybe they lose faith because they think it is all a lie, that the Bible isn't real. One can't question another's faith, that is for God to do. Maybe the will come back to their faith in time but hopefully they will know time at that point is very short.

Wrong!! So very wrong. Jesus is not here on earth governing the whole world and there sure isn't any peace going on