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If the earth is a globe, how is it possible that a photograph of the Alps in its splendor can be taken from the Pyrenees?

 
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WTF? Coward, You are not seriously suggesting haze does not exist are you?
Haze is the result of visual compression of the atmosphere we live and breathe. The air we breathe is like soup, It is dense, that is how things fly, by compressing it to make it even denser. It is choc full of crud and crap, the further the optical target the more of the crud and crap you are looking through . . . Haze.
What a troll, hahaha!
Next time you are up in your airplane try looking through an infra red system, you can see for 800 miles, then optical resolution of the eyeball becomes significant and things are just too small to see at such distances.That is why you cannot see "forever".
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Haze exists, but its not some mythical force that prevents you from seeing the rest of the planet. If you can see stars on the horizon then that means you can see as far as they are. So there's no "haze" stopping you from seeing them.

Which means YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE ANYTHING CLOSER TO YOU THAN A STAR. So, if the earth were flat, then ALL MOUNTAIN RANGES closer than the stars on the horizon should be visible from elevation. This is NOT the case, so the earth can't be flat.
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>"So there's no 'haze' stopping your from seeing them."

Actually, there is.

Which makes your NEXT paragraph incoherent babbling.

;)
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WTF? Coward, You are not seriously suggesting haze does not exist are you?
Haze is the result of visual compression of the atmosphere we live and breathe. The air we breathe is like soup, It is dense, that is how things fly, by compressing it to make it even denser. It is choc full of crud and crap, the further the optical target the more of the crud and crap you are looking through . . . Haze.
What a troll, hahaha!
Next time you are up in your airplane try looking through an infra red system, you can see for 800 miles, then optical resolution of the eyeball becomes significant and things are just too small to see at such distances.That is why you cannot see "forever".
 Quoting: Morrissons are cunts


Haze exists, but its not some mythical force that prevents you from seeing the rest of the planet. If you can see stars on the horizon then that means you can see as far as they are. So there's no "haze" stopping you from seeing them.

Which means YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE ANYTHING CLOSER TO YOU THAN A STAR. So, if the earth were flat, then ALL MOUNTAIN RANGES closer than the stars on the horizon should be visible from elevation. This is NOT the case, so the earth can't be flat.
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>"So there's no 'haze' stopping your from seeing them."

Actually, there is.

Which makes your NEXT paragraph incoherent babbling.

;)
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So you've never seen the sun, moon or stars before. Gotcha. That ladies and gentlemen is how you checkmate a flat earther. Good night!
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Why can't we see the sun all the time if we should be able to see all of flat earth from an elevation? Flat lives matter huh op?
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Another two things, if the sun were circling above us, it would change size as it got closer and farther away throughout the day. We don't observe this.

Also, any point of light elevated above a plane will be observable on a flat plane from ALL UNOBSCURED POINTS on the plane, so neither the sun nor the moon could ever set on a flat earth. We do not observe this either.

That and the fact that you can't see the rest of the world from an airplane means the earth cannot be flat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79030242


You have an ASTOUNDING non-comprehension of...

PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING.

Your eyes are limited perception sensory organs.

Even with AUGMENTED vision, such a provided by optical devices, you run into the limits of the physical reality.

You can NOT see INFINITE distances.

Have you EVER even been on a commercial flight.

You can see MUCH farther than is typically recognized, but THERE ARE LIMITS.

Both the Sun and the Moon ALSO have PHYSICAL limits to their LUMINOSITY.

You can NOT see light from the Sun, the Moon, the 'stars' an INFINITE distance.

For example, your headlights are NOT visible but AT MOST a few hundred yards...

NOT an INFINITE distance.

Ipso facto, you can NOT see the ENTIRE Earth if you had a tall enough step ladder.

So... you are TOTALLY out of the running on UNDERSTANDING ANYTHING about the PLANE(t) you call home.
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Re: If the earth is a globe, how is it possible that a photograph of the Alps in its splendor can be taken from the Pyrenees?
WTF? Coward, You are not seriously suggesting haze does not exist are you?
Haze is the result of visual compression of the atmosphere we live and breathe. The air we breathe is like soup, It is dense, that is how things fly, by compressing it to make it even denser. It is choc full of crud and crap, the further the optical target the more of the crud and crap you are looking through . . . Haze.
What a troll, hahaha!
Next time you are up in your airplane try looking through an infra red system, you can see for 800 miles, then optical resolution of the eyeball becomes significant and things are just too small to see at such distances.That is why you cannot see "forever".
 Quoting: Morrissons are cunts


Haze exists, but its not some mythical force that prevents you from seeing the rest of the planet. If you can see stars on the horizon then that means you can see as far as they are. So there's no "haze" stopping you from seeing them.

Which means YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE ANYTHING CLOSER TO YOU THAN A STAR. So, if the earth were flat, then ALL MOUNTAIN RANGES closer than the stars on the horizon should be visible from elevation. This is NOT the case, so the earth can't be flat.
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>"So there's no 'haze' stopping your from seeing them."

Actually, there is.

Which makes your NEXT paragraph incoherent babbling.

;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75203286


So you've never seen the sun, moon or stars before. Gotcha. That ladies and gentlemen is how you checkmate a flat earther. Good night!
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Your mother didn't DROP you on your head as a child...

She seems to have SPIKED YOU!

It seems we have found a new school of learning sometimes referred to as post industrial MORANITY.

Me, truth.

You, jerking off.

Later SphereOID.

Have a nice FLAT EARTH day.
:)
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Re: If the earth is a globe, how is it possible that a photograph of the Alps in its splendor can be taken from the Pyrenees?
Why can't we see the sun all the time if we should be able to see all of flat earth from an elevation? Flat lives matter huh op?
 Quoting: Apollonius 78234183


Another two things, if the sun were circling above us, it would change size as it got closer and farther away throughout the day. We don't observe this.

Also, any point of light elevated above a plane will be observable on a flat plane from ALL UNOBSCURED POINTS on the plane, so neither the sun nor the moon could ever set on a flat earth. We do not observe this either.

That and the fact that you can't see the rest of the world from an airplane means the earth cannot be flat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79030242


You have an ASTOUNDING non-comprehension of...

PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING.

Your eyes are limited perception sensory organs.

Even with AUGMENTED vision, such a provided by optical devices, you run into the limits of the physical reality.

You can NOT see INFINITE distances.

Have you EVER even been on a commercial flight.

You can see MUCH farther than is typically recognized, but THERE ARE LIMITS.

Both the Sun and the Moon ALSO have PHYSICAL limits to their LUMINOSITY.

You can NOT see light from the Sun, the Moon, the 'stars' an INFINITE distance.

For example, your headlights are NOT visible but AT MOST a few hundred yards...

NOT an INFINITE distance.

Ipso facto, you can NOT see the ENTIRE Earth if you had a tall enough step ladder.

So... you are TOTALLY out of the running on UNDERSTANDING ANYTHING about the PLANE(t) you call home.
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That's not correct. As far as we can tell there is NO LIMIT to human vision so long as the point source is bright enough. Your headlights are only visible short distances because they're not very bright, but even then, you can see very far so long as the emitter has certain properties.

[link to www.livescience.com (secure)]

Remember, to debunk this info, its not enough to claim its "fake". You have to provide same or better sources that explain how "our vision is limited". You are deliberately responding to good arguments with NONSENSE which is again proof you know you're lying.

You can see an infinite distance as long as the light source is bright enough.
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Haze exists, but its not some mythical force that prevents you from seeing the rest of the planet. If you can see stars on the horizon then that means you can see as far as they are. So there's no "haze" stopping you from seeing them.

Which means YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE ANYTHING CLOSER TO YOU THAN A STAR. So, if the earth were flat, then ALL MOUNTAIN RANGES closer than the stars on the horizon should be visible from elevation. This is NOT the case, so the earth can't be flat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79030242


>"So there's no 'haze' stopping your from seeing them."

Actually, there is.

Which makes your NEXT paragraph incoherent babbling.

;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75203286


So you've never seen the sun, moon or stars before. Gotcha. That ladies and gentlemen is how you checkmate a flat earther. Good night!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79030242


Your mother didn't DROP you on your head as a child...

She seems to have SPIKED YOU!

It seems we have found a new school of learning sometimes referred to as post industrial MORANITY.

Me, truth.

You, jerking off.

Later SphereOID.

Have a nice FLAT EARTH day.
:)
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I will take this non response as your admission that you were defeated. Thanks.
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Re: If the earth is a globe, how is it possible that a photograph of the Alps in its splendor can be taken from the Pyrenees?
I just posted a thread about this this morning that was deleted. I wonder why? Maybe it’s because the moderators here are helping to cover up one of the greatest deceptions in modern history: ball earth.

Anyway, the Alps are over 275 miles from the Pyrenees. Based on the curvature calculation for Earth, the Alps should be completely obscured by the curvature, yet they are visible.

Here is a curvature calculator:
[link to dizzib.github.io (secure)]
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The Globetard answer is always "Grabbity" and "Refraction!"

5a
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Yup. Notice the lack of globe earth shills on this thread. They are backed into a corner and have no escape...
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What altitude above sea level was the photographer standing at (in the alps)??

'nuff said. I'l waste no more time ina flerfer thread. Morans.
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and to what purpose would"THEY" have to conceal or promote that the earth is round or flat?cool2
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...
'

OMG...

It CAN get better!!!

The VOLCANO is dormant.

THAT's French for wearing split crotch panties.

So I am STANDING on the TOP of a mountain...

EVERY. DAY.

And you can NOT see dick.

It's called a TERRITORIAL view dummy.

What PLANE are you living on?

Here on the FLAT EARTH... there is a thing called REALITY.

You are OBVIOUSLY not living in ANY KIND of reality.

You SERIOUSLY think that those lights in the SKY are STARS (distant SUNS) and the light travels LIGHT YEARS!?

You have lived SO LONG in a CARTOON WORLD you have ZERO understanding of ANYTHING material.

I have SOME unfortunate news for you BOY...

NOTHING you believe is REAL.
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You obviously want to just continue arguing by spewing bullshit. The only reason you can't see anything on top of a mountain is if there is OTHER THINGS IN THE WAY. Where is your picture showing "atmospheric disturbances" from a mountain that prevent you from seeing far?? So you mean the sun must be closer on the horizon than these "atmospheric disturbances" right? You're being so obtuse that it must be deliberate..
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No not AT ALL Mabel.

I am NOT afraid.

I am NOT afraid to actually LOOK at those PRIMA FACIA photographs that DESTROY those little FAIRY TALES...

Playing in your head.

There are PLENTY of things that OBSCURE vision in the PHOTOGRAPH you are AFRAID to look at it.

It is mostly referred to as a HAZE.

With this little thing some people call TECHNOLOGY...

Which in this case comes in the form of infraRed filters you can attach to your favorite camera.

And if you get shots from favorably placed mountains...

You CAN SEE 200 miles.

If you are in a typical commercial flight 28k-32k you can see up 1200+ miles given that you can RECOGNIZE the distant landmarks.

There is a spot in Washington State, on I-90, I can SEE the COASTAL mountains from 200 miles away...

I would explain it to you...

But I promised my grandmother I wouldn't TORMENT the special needs kids...

When you are GIFTED...

Pretty much everyone is a special needs kid.

:)
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You're a fucking idiot.

You think "haze" is going to stop you from seeing the rest of the planet, but we can see the SUN AND MOON AND STARS. You're OBVIOUSLY trolling, proving that flat earth is just about making serious thinkers look dumb. Thanks for giving us your perspective as a special needs kid.
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LOL.

Look deep into my 275 mile photo.

Just keep watching the photo just sitting there.

It is 275 miles.

It has UTTERLY destroyed the SphereOID DELUSION.

And anyone too Dwm6 to understand THAT deserves the REALITY they are living in.

How is the Covid Plandemic going?

It's NOT real either.

And yes HAZE has SERIOUS effects on your range of visibility.

Apparently GLP is a SAFE PLACE for ABSURDISTS...

THAT would be you.

:)
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and to what purpose would"THEY" have to conceal or promote that the earth is round or flat?cool2
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NOT even understanding where you live NEUTERS you intellectually.

And makes it possible for you to live inside the CARTOON world the public thinks is REALITY.

Instead of UNDERSTANDING what an INSANELY MAGNIFICENT place we live in... with few limitations.

Look at your DAY to DAY existence.

Typically, a SLAVE on a PERPETUAL treadmill.

THERE is YOUR answer?
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Re: If the earth is a globe, how is it possible that a photograph of the Alps in its splendor can be taken from the Pyrenees?
I just posted a thread about this this morning that was deleted. I wonder why? Maybe it’s because the moderators here are helping to cover up one of the greatest deceptions in modern history: ball earth.

Anyway, the Alps are over 275 miles from the Pyrenees. Based on the curvature calculation for Earth, the Alps should be completely obscured by the curvature, yet they are visible.

Here is a curvature calculator:
[link to dizzib.github.io (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77922972


The Globetard answer is always "Grabbity" and "Refraction!"

5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78984045


Yup. Notice the lack of globe earth shills on this thread. They are backed into a corner and have no escape...
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What altitude above sea level was the photographer standing at (in the alps)??

'nuff said. I'l waste no more time ina flerfer thread. Morans.
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An ABSURD non sequitur.

The photo is.

It is 275 miles.

SphereOID Earth has died for the Nth time on GLP.

FLAT EARTH is.

To THINKING people.

The rest of you go back to your CARTOONS and your PLANDEMIC.
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bsflagbsflagbsflagbsflag

Why are there so many low information folks on GLP....they would be laughed off of any REAL FORUM !!!
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Re: If the earth is a globe, how is it possible that a photograph of the Alps in its splendor can be taken from the Pyrenees?
Look

Clearly the GOVERNMENT(S) ARE LIARS

PULL UP THE WW 2 FLAT FLIGHT MAP - ITS ALL DISTORTED AND ESSENTIALLY 'MAKES' THE EARTH ROUND BY DESIGN

The truth is that the EARTH IS A SPHERE!

But the distances are the key to understanding

THEY don't want YOU knowing locations and distances

it's quite simple

Look at the size of the globe NASA provides in images

Now a flight around the world is only 2 days maximum by AIRPLANE

BULLSHIT

The powers that be distort all relationships via distance and time using maps and doctored 'geolocation'

They want to keep you blind

But like all other planets the EARTH is a SPHERE
or do you not see Mars, Jupiter etc.. with telescopes b/c I DO!
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Re: If the earth is a globe, how is it possible that a photograph of the Alps in its splendor can be taken from the Pyrenees?
Why can't we see the sun all the time if we should be able to see all of flat earth from an elevation? Flat lives matter huh op?
 Quoting: Apollonius 78234183


Another two things, if the sun were circling above us, it would change size as it got closer and farther away throughout the day. We don't observe this.

Also, any point of light elevated above a plane will be observable on a flat plane from ALL UNOBSCURED POINTS on the plane, so neither the sun nor the moon could ever set on a flat earth. We do not observe this either.

That and the fact that you can't see the rest of the world from an airplane means the earth cannot be flat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79030242


You have an ASTOUNDING non-comprehension of...

PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING.

Your eyes are limited perception sensory organs.

Even with AUGMENTED vision, such a provided by optical devices, you run into the limits of the physical reality.

You can NOT see INFINITE distances.

Have you EVER even been on a commercial flight.

You can see MUCH farther than is typically recognized, but THERE ARE LIMITS.

Both the Sun and the Moon ALSO have PHYSICAL limits to their LUMINOSITY.

You can NOT see light from the Sun, the Moon, the 'stars' an INFINITE distance.

For example, your headlights are NOT visible but AT MOST a few hundred yards...

NOT an INFINITE distance.

Ipso facto, you can NOT see the ENTIRE Earth if you had a tall enough step ladder.

So... you are TOTALLY out of the running on UNDERSTANDING ANYTHING about the PLANE(t) you call home.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75203286


That's not correct. As far as we can tell there is NO LIMIT to human vision so long as the point source is bright enough. Your headlights are only visible short distances because they're not very bright, but even then, you can see very far so long as the emitter has certain properties.

[link to www.livescience.com (secure)]

Remember, to debunk this info, its not enough to claim its "fake". You have to provide same or better sources that explain how "our vision is limited". You are deliberately responding to good arguments with NONSENSE which is again proof you know you're lying.

You can see an infinite distance as long as the light source is bright enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79030242


Nope. NOT true.

You DO understand that a link is just an internet addressing scheme to what is ultimately a text file parked on a server somewhere.

This one is pure bullshill.

The only thing that is INFINITE...

It's human STUPIDITY.

Which you have SO kindly just demonstrated and proven.

There are DE FACTO limits to luminosity.

There are DE FACTO limits to vision.

This is an INTELLIGENCE test.

If you THINK you can see ANYTHING... an INFINITE distance... because it's INFINITELY bright...

You NEED to stay at the shallow end of the pool.

Anybody that is Dwm6 enough to believe that a Sun-like celestial object can emit enough light to travel SEVERAL LIGHT YEARS...

How many miles is a light year?

OMG, you people are SO PROGRAMMED.
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Rockets don’t work in space threads are also deleted.


Just like planes, rockets need atmosphere to work
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Yup.
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Because that Astroshill liar deletes them..

I'm Kozmo_n_Murphs_the_flearfs on IG if you wanna brain full ✌🏻️
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Re: If the earth is a globe, how is it possible that a photograph of the Alps in its splendor can be taken from the Pyrenees?
Look

Clearly the GOVERNMENT(S) ARE LIARS

PULL UP THE WW 2 FLAT FLIGHT MAP - ITS ALL DISTORTED AND ESSENTIALLY 'MAKES' THE EARTH ROUND BY DESIGN

The truth is that the EARTH IS A SPHERE!

But the distances are the key to understanding

THEY don't want YOU knowing locations and distances

it's quite simple

Look at the size of the globe NASA provides in images

Now a flight around the world is only 2 days maximum by AIRPLANE

BULLSHIT

The powers that be distort all relationships via distance and time using maps and doctored 'geolocation'

They want to keep you blind

But like all other planets the EARTH is a SPHERE
or do you not see Mars, Jupiter etc.. with telescopes b/c I DO!
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No you DO NOT.

All you are seeing is CGI images that come from NASA.

Those and everything that comes from NASA are 100% FAKE.

The PHOTO of the Alps shot from a viewpoint in the Pyrennes...

ENDS the SphereOID nonsense ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!

The PROJECTED DECLINATION at 275 miles is in EXCESS of 50,000 feet.

You would NOT see the ALPS. <--- And THAT is a period.

It is OVER.

GAME. SET. MATCH.
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Another two things, if the sun were circling above us, it would change size as it got closer and farther away throughout the day. We don't observe this.

Also, any point of light elevated above a plane will be observable on a flat plane from ALL UNOBSCURED POINTS on the plane, so neither the sun nor the moon could ever set on a flat earth. We do not observe this either.

That and the fact that you can't see the rest of the world from an airplane means the earth cannot be flat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79030242


You have an ASTOUNDING non-comprehension of...

PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING.

Your eyes are limited perception sensory organs.

Even with AUGMENTED vision, such a provided by optical devices, you run into the limits of the physical reality.

You can NOT see INFINITE distances.

Have you EVER even been on a commercial flight.

You can see MUCH farther than is typically recognized, but THERE ARE LIMITS.

Both the Sun and the Moon ALSO have PHYSICAL limits to their LUMINOSITY.

You can NOT see light from the Sun, the Moon, the 'stars' an INFINITE distance.

For example, your headlights are NOT visible but AT MOST a few hundred yards...

NOT an INFINITE distance.

Ipso facto, you can NOT see the ENTIRE Earth if you had a tall enough step ladder.

So... you are TOTALLY out of the running on UNDERSTANDING ANYTHING about the PLANE(t) you call home.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75203286


That's not correct. As far as we can tell there is NO LIMIT to human vision so long as the point source is bright enough. Your headlights are only visible short distances because they're not very bright, but even then, you can see very far so long as the emitter has certain properties.

[link to www.livescience.com (secure)]

Remember, to debunk this info, its not enough to claim its "fake". You have to provide same or better sources that explain how "our vision is limited". You are deliberately responding to good arguments with NONSENSE which is again proof you know you're lying.

You can see an infinite distance as long as the light source is bright enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79030242


Nope. NOT true.

You DO understand that a link is just an internet addressing scheme to what is ultimately a text file parked on a server somewhere.

This one is pure bullshill.

The only thing that is INFINITE...

It's human STUPIDITY.

Which you have SO kindly just demonstrated and proven.

There are DE FACTO limits to luminosity.

There are DE FACTO limits to vision.

This is an INTELLIGENCE test.

If you THINK you can see ANYTHING... an INFINITE distance... because it's INFINITELY bright...

You NEED to stay at the shallow end of the pool.

Anybody that is Dwm6 enough to believe that a Sun-like celestial object can emit enough light to travel SEVERAL LIGHT YEARS...

How many miles is a light year?

OMG, you people are SO PROGRAMMED.
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One more time, you're not actually arguing. You're just trying to keep it going without admitting defeat. Only losers and wrong people do that though, so you've basically outted yourself.
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Considering the absolute threshold, the brightness of a candle flame, and the way a glowing object dims according to the square of the distance away from it, vision scientists conclude that one could make out the faint glimmer of a candle flame up to 30 miles away.
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One more time, its not enough to say "that's wrong!" you have to have similar or better evidence to disprove it. Otherwise you're just trying to win an argument by cheating.
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You have an ASTOUNDING non-comprehension of...

PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING.

Your eyes are limited perception sensory organs.

Even with AUGMENTED vision, such a provided by optical devices, you run into the limits of the physical reality.

You can NOT see INFINITE distances.

Have you EVER even been on a commercial flight.

You can see MUCH farther than is typically recognized, but THERE ARE LIMITS.

Both the Sun and the Moon ALSO have PHYSICAL limits to their LUMINOSITY.

You can NOT see light from the Sun, the Moon, the 'stars' an INFINITE distance.

For example, your headlights are NOT visible but AT MOST a few hundred yards...

NOT an INFINITE distance.

Ipso facto, you can NOT see the ENTIRE Earth if you had a tall enough step ladder.

So... you are TOTALLY out of the running on UNDERSTANDING ANYTHING about the PLANE(t) you call home.
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That's not correct. As far as we can tell there is NO LIMIT to human vision so long as the point source is bright enough. Your headlights are only visible short distances because they're not very bright, but even then, you can see very far so long as the emitter has certain properties.

[link to www.livescience.com (secure)]

Remember, to debunk this info, its not enough to claim its "fake". You have to provide same or better sources that explain how "our vision is limited". You are deliberately responding to good arguments with NONSENSE which is again proof you know you're lying.

You can see an infinite distance as long as the light source is bright enough.
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Nope. NOT true.

You DO understand that a link is just an internet addressing scheme to what is ultimately a text file parked on a server somewhere.

This one is pure bullshill.

The only thing that is INFINITE...

It's human STUPIDITY.

Which you have SO kindly just demonstrated and proven.

There are DE FACTO limits to luminosity.

There are DE FACTO limits to vision.

This is an INTELLIGENCE test.

If you THINK you can see ANYTHING... an INFINITE distance... because it's INFINITELY bright...

You NEED to stay at the shallow end of the pool.

Anybody that is Dwm6 enough to believe that a Sun-like celestial object can emit enough light to travel SEVERAL LIGHT YEARS...

How many miles is a light year?

OMG, you people are SO PROGRAMMED.
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One more time, you're not actually arguing. You're just trying to keep it going without admitting defeat. Only losers and wrong people do that though, so you've basically outted yourself.
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Dude... I'm wearing your azzh0l3 for a garter belt.

LOL!
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Considering the absolute threshold, the brightness of a candle flame, and the way a glowing object dims according to the square of the distance away from it, vision scientists conclude that one could make out the faint glimmer of a candle flame up to 30 miles away.
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One more time, its not enough to say "that's wrong!" you have to have similar or better evidence to disprove it. Otherwise you're just trying to win an argument by cheating.
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aeiou.

You obviously NEED the help.

The Guinness Book of World Records has many many categories.

Maybe YOU should look it up...

Instead of PONTIFICATING and embarrassing yourself, friend.

We are FRIENDS now right?
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The earth is a real globe. Not an imaginary circle. We have ways to measure the globe without using some curvature model
That is an ideal.
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The earth is a real globe. Not an imaginary circle. We have ways to measure the globe without using some curvature model
That is an ideal.
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Well, share them with us.
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I just posted a thread about this this morning that was deleted. I wonder why? Maybe it’s because the moderators here are helping to cover up one of the greatest deceptions in modern history: ball earth.

Anyway, the Alps are over 275 miles from the Pyrenees. Based on the curvature calculation for Earth, the Alps should be completely obscured by the curvature, yet they are visible.

Here is a curvature calculator:
[link to dizzib.github.io (secure)]
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Under the proper condition with a strong zoom, high atmospheric refraction index, taken from the top of the Pyrenees (3400 meters) ...


Here is the simulation:

[link to walter.bislins.ch]

Totally possible.

Your thread fails. Sorry.

Last Edited by JADR+ on 01/03/2021 11:11 AM
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FE Challenge: Provide a formula which calculates the exact distance between 2 GPS coordinates that does not use the Earth's radius of 6,371 km in it's assumptions

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This is how you defeat flat tards. Beat them down the logic and facts until you force them to break their narrative. They won't admit it, but reasonable people can see thru the lies at this point.
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This is how you defeat flat tards. Beat them down the logic and facts until you force them to break their narrative. They won't admit it, but reasonable people can see thru the lies at this point.
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Where in YOUR imaginary little world has ANY of your bravado ACTUALLY become true?

By REASONABLE... I presume you mean TOTALLY and UTTERLY MORANIC people SO PROGRAMMED they can't see that a PHOTO showing the ALPS from the PYRENNES...

ONCE and FOR ALL...

ENDS the SphereOID DELUSION?

What post do you 'THINK' you actually included LOGIC and FACTS?

LOL

You are coming off like the ARMLESS and LEGLESS BLACK KNIGHT...

Screaming for ME to 'COME BACK' so you can ATTEMPT to bite me!

LOL...
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I just posted a thread about this this morning that was deleted. I wonder why? Maybe it’s because the moderators here are helping to cover up one of the greatest deceptions in modern history: ball earth.

Anyway, the Alps are over 275 miles from the Pyrenees. Based on the curvature calculation for Earth, the Alps should be completely obscured by the curvature, yet they are visible.

Here is a curvature calculator:
[link to dizzib.github.io (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77922972


Under the proper condition with a strong zoom, high atmospheric refraction index, taken from the top of the Pyrenees (3400 meters) ...


Here is the simulation:

[link to walter.bislins.ch]

Totally possible.

Your thread fails. Sorry.
 Quoting: JADR+


JaiDire... and here I thought YOU were MORE than just a pretty face!

Suddenly with your PLUS sign you sound a LOT like ANOTHER POMPOUS windbag that I USED to Voltaire the living crap out of...

Fravia+


Couldn't keep him from EXTINGUISHING himself!

He CERTAINLY showed me.

So... To follow your 'argument' you have a CARTOON...

Versus the OPs PHOTOGRAPH.

I fail your 'THREAD FAIL'.

French comedy is DEAD since the MASTERS are NO LONGER in favor.

Bring back the FRENCH farce...

You CERTAINLY have.

;)
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I just posted a thread about this this morning that was deleted. I wonder why? Maybe it’s because the moderators here are helping to cover up one of the greatest deceptions in modern history: ball earth.

Anyway, the Alps are over 275 miles from the Pyrenees. Based on the curvature calculation for Earth, the Alps should be completely obscured by the curvature, yet they are visible.

Here is a curvature calculator:
[link to dizzib.github.io (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77922972


This is not hard to figure out.

From [link to omnicalculator.com]

Alps Height - 15,781 Feet

Distance to Object: 275 Miles
Eyesight Level: 15,781 <- Feet From Top of Alps.
Distance to Horizon: 154 Miles
Obscured Object Part: 9,784 Feet.


So we can only see an object that is 154 miles away from the Alps to the Ground and 9,784 feet would be obscured.

But now the ah ha moment.

The Pyrenees are 11,168 feet in height and would not be obscured by this calculation.

The omnicalculator is from one Height to the ground and we already see 154 miles without taking the height of the Pyrenees into effect.

If you used a better formula that takes the initial height and the height of the object you are viewing you would see it is possible in a round earth. Instead of using a formula that only calculates from the ground to the height of an object.

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I just posted a thread about this this morning that was deleted. I wonder why? Maybe it’s because the moderators here are helping to cover up one of the greatest deceptions in modern history: ball earth.

Anyway, the Alps are over 275 miles from the Pyrenees. Based on the curvature calculation for Earth, the Alps should be completely obscured by the curvature, yet they are visible.

Here is a curvature calculator:
[link to dizzib.github.io (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77922972


This is not hard to figure out.

From [link to omnicalculator.com]

Alps Height - 15,781 Feet

Distance to Object: 275 Miles
Eyesight Level: 15,781 <- Feet From Top of Alps.
Distance to Horizon: 154 Miles
Obscured Object Part: 9,784 Feet.


So we can only see an object that is 154 miles away from the Alps to the Ground and 9,784 feet would be obscured.

But now the ah ha moment.

The Pyrenees are 11,168 feet in height and would not be obscured by this calculation.

The omnicalculator is from one Height to the ground and we already see 154 miles without taking the height of the Pyrenees into effect.

If you used a better formula that takes the initial height and the height of the object you are viewing you would see it is possible in a round earth. Instead of using a formula that only calculates from the ground to the height of an object.
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I just posted a thread about this this morning that was deleted. I wonder why? Maybe it’s because the moderators here are helping to cover up one of the greatest deceptions in modern history: ball earth.

Anyway, the Alps are over 275 miles from the Pyrenees. Based on the curvature calculation for Earth, the Alps should be completely obscured by the curvature, yet they are visible.

Here is a curvature calculator:
[link to dizzib.github.io (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77922972


This is not hard to figure out.

From [link to omnicalculator.com]

Alps Height - 15,781 Feet

Distance to Object: 275 Miles
Eyesight Level: 15,781 <- Feet From Top of Alps.
Distance to Horizon: 154 Miles
Obscured Object Part: 9,784 Feet.


So we can only see an object that is 154 miles away from the Alps to the Ground and 9,784 feet would be obscured.

But now the ah ha moment.

The Pyrenees are 11,168 feet in height and would not be obscured by this calculation.

The omnicalculator is from one Height to the ground and we already see 154 miles without taking the height of the Pyrenees into effect.

If you used a better formula that takes the initial height and the height of the object you are viewing you would see it is possible in a round earth. Instead of using a formula that only calculates from the ground to the height of an object.
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I DON'T THINK so!

The PROJECTED DECLINATION at 275 miles is in EXCESS of 50,000 feet.

Bring us YOUR source code and I WILL FIX IT.

And if you want to ACTUALLY approximate something like CORRECT thinking...

YOUR starting point should be the EXACT altitude of the location from WHICH the actual picture was taken.

DUH!!!

Robotically using the MAXIMUM peak of the PYRENNES exposing your AGENDA?

IF you POSEURS are going to have even the PRETENSE of impartiality...

Or even THINKING you can HANG in the SAME conversation as ME...

You might want to bring your A GAME.

LOL





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