The Pre-tribulation Rapture is Jesuit authored FALSE DOCTRINE!

What is the great evil fruit of this false doctrine?


Tell us why you say it is so wrong to believe

that it might be scripturally justified that Christ might rescue some that have not been appointed for wrath from the unleashing of the Wrath of God upon all the earth and hoping it is true and hoping to be among those so blessed?

All the while recognizing, of course... that if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen, and we live until we die, which still happens to be whenever He Says So...

So what exactly is your problem here?

to that end and your point we don't know everything.. but certainly we will know those critical things needed to serve God and overcome the fiery darts of satan having put on the full armor of God.

Because it leads the ignorant and unlearned into further complacence and ultimately directly into the arms of satan who will come before Christ posing as God..


Read below to the end of the chapter paying particularly close to how God feels about those that teach His children to fly to save their souls.


Ezekiel 13

9 And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord God.

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Thanks AC

Chronologically, it is against scripture and what it says for the FLESH rapture to be at the 7th trumpet. It is prior. The problem with a lot of the people who deny the rapture which occurs after the 6th seal is opened is they are ignorant of Jewish tradition and its fulfillment by Jesus Christ.

A lot of the ignorance is first not to understand what scripture actually says and then attribute the limited false (non rapture) belief to a Darby or Scofield interpretation which basically doesn't having any bearing on the truth.

The separation of weeds from wheat have a specific meaning and is tied into the ancient Jewish grain harvest. Two days before Passover, the barley harvest began and a grain offering was made. After Passover, the counting of the Omer started. It is a 49 day period. It is a time of mourning. [link to en.wikipedia.org]

HERE IT IS!!!! Christ speaks the words and even tells the workings of the opening of the 6th seal. From biblehub.com The Return of the Son of Man
…29"But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30"And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. 31"And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

At the end of the counting of the Omer is "Shavuot" which is when Moses went up the mountain to receive the Law. Two days later the wheat harvest ended. The whole process was 53 days. The worthy Lamb, Jesus Christ, is the only one who could end sacrifice and fulfill the Law. He died and was resurrected on the 3rd day. He spent 40 days on earth and ascended into Heaven. 10 Days later the Holy Spirit came upon the apostles in the upper room and the church was started in seed. LOOK at when it was done. The same day the traditional Jewish wheat harvest ended. AGAIN 53 DAYS!!!! The harvest is THE CHURCH, THE BRIDE in flesh after the 6th seal is opened just like he says in the above passage. Go read Revelation 6 at the 6th seal being opened to confirm these are , IN FACT, the same events.

The naysayers and doubters in what the scripture actually says need to quit peddling their scriptural and spiritual ignorance.

Do you think you are smarter and more informed than absolutely everybody who disagrees with you

or do you think it might be possible that you are not perfect

and that you do not know everything

and something the other person thinks that disagrees with you

might be right

or the truth might be something that no one is precisely understanding

because no one has perfect understanding

of things GOD OBVIOUSLY DID NOT MAKE PERFECTLY CLEAR FOR US ??

Yet every man is certain that he himself is true and the other is false.

Pride consumes every man among you.

THE RAPTURE COULD BE TODAY - Get right with the Lord while you are still blessed with a little time.

But don't take all day about it, you could get hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be.

Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Basically I think that there is only one correct answer to as to when it will happen and that is... today. Please Note that there are two classes of the blessed. Class I Those who are dead in Christ. Class II Those who are alive in Christ.

Now someone who is in Class I was obviously at some time in the past a member of Class II. Non of us can guarantee that we will still be drawing breath at this time tomorrow. So this is not a matter that you can comfortably "put off". As is the common human tendency when faced with a decision. In fact putting it off is a decision in and of it's self. You might be blessed with a little more time, but don't count on it. The risks and consequences of dying in your sins are just to great. All of us are skating on thin ice.



1Th 4:13 ¶ But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Here is an interesting Chick illustrated tract on this very important subject.WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com]

^jew. no doubt about it.

There are key words in the above passage "remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." Who are they in the clouds? The elect gathered from the four winds after the opening of the 6th seal? Yes.

Honey satan sets up in Jerusalem elevating himself above God at the 6th seal, 6th trump, and 6th vial. If youre going to look for a snatching away at the 6th trump well the destroyer sure will have one ready for you.



Revelation 6:12 "And I behold when He had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood."
Revelation 6:13 "And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as the fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind."

666.. so simple a child can understand it;


Revelation 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
Revelation 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

Did you happen to know right about now a third part if the world calls themselves Christian.. and most of those believe in some sort of pre or mid tribulation rapture?


Revelation 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
Revelation 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
Revelation 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

wrong again...as usual Tropical

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THIS

harpazo

– properly, seize by force; snatch up, suddenly and decisively – like someone seizing bounty (spoil, a prize); to take by an open display of force (i.e. not covertly or secretly).

[link to biblehub.com]

Yeah after this tard.

2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?


1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Sorry Jesus never told you that. You must have been watching TBN at the time he wanted to.

Thread: FALSE DOCTRINE ALERT!! Left Behind the movie with Nicholas Cage!

Same greek word below in bold. Don't trust your inheritance at the hands of another man.


Matthew 13:19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

With some meat like that it makes me wonder why your A/C?

Revelation 6 I addressed in a previous reply.

Genesis 7:16 And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the LORD shut him in.

Revelation 3
7 “And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write,

‘These things says He who is holy, He who is true, “He who has the key of David, He who opens and no one shuts, and shuts and no one opens”:
8 “I know your works. See, I have set before you an open door, and no one can shut it; for you have a little strength, have kept My word, and have not denied My name. 9 Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.
10 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.

Why did John see a door in heaven opened right before he was in spirit?
Revelation 4:1 After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking with me, saying, “Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this.”

Get it A/C

Before the tribulation there will be 2300 days of temple sacrifices.
Thread: Passover 2015 and the 2028 Jubilee year


It is during these 2300 days that apostle John will prophesy again:


Only after the 2300 days of temple sacrifices will the antichrist and the 2 witnesses appear.

EXACTLY!!

1Th 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.

Just so the tards dont think your trying to pull a fast one on their simple minds.

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1Th 4:17 ThenG1899 weG2249 which are aliveG2198 and remainG4035 shall be caught upG726 togetherG260 withG4862 themG846 inG1722 the clouds,G3507 to meetG1519 G529 theG3588 LordG2962 inG1519 the air:G109 andG2532 soG3779 shall we everG3842 beG2071 withG4862 the Lord.G2962


G726
ἁρπάζω
harpazō
har-pad'-zo
From a derivative of G138; to seize (in various applications): - catch (away, up), pluck, pull, take (by force).

Last Edited by Doometropolis on 11/28/2014 06:39 PM

I have been studying about the rapture for 40 years now. And I am sure that there is a mid-tribulation rapture coming soon!!

WTF is Rapture? is this some kind of American construct?

Lived in many places in Europe, among fellow Christians and none have got a fucking clue what this is all about.

Is it a cult or what??

Every generation (around 80 or so) since the fictitious Jesus was fictitiously crucified has spoken these same words. What has happened...NOTHING. Every generations swears up and down, that THEIR generation is the one and that THEY have the scriptural proof to back it up. My grandmother, bless her heart, thought we would be raptured back in the 60's and she thought she had scriptural proof. So I ask you, who is right then, if everyone says their generation is the one to be raptured?
I'll tell you who is right...No Christian is.

Christians believe that the rapture is something that originated with their religion. That's not true. It is Buddhist. Look it up before you blurt out incorrect garbage. What it means in reality is totally different then as interpreted by Christians. So, don't say I'm wrong just because you rely on the preacher. Please watch this video and learn something.

So at what trumpet is this so called mythical "mid Trib" rapture event going to take place?