The Pre-tribulation Rapture is Jesuit authored FALSE DOCTRINE!

What do you expect men not to get wrong?

Wait... what?!

Because I believe in Jesus Christ and the possibility of the Rapture- Him taking me faster than the blink of an eye- I hope...

How does that to you mean you think I am going to follow some man proclaiming himself?

I am wrong about what?

Matthew 5:37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

There are some on which the following will fully apply..

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.


There.

Now I've used those verses against you

so now I must be right and so now:

"Unfortunately, you're wrong."

I look to Christ alone. I hope in Christ alone.

Of course, I hope to rescued and spared from the Wrath of God.

If not, I will die if I do not survive until His Coming.

What is wrong with this?

Because YOU say so?!

False.

How is looking to Christ alone always and hoping for Him Imminently...

how exactly does that "lead to complacency" and "directly into the arms of Satan"?!

You are telling me not to look to and expect Christ now and live until I die

because that leads to Satan!

And you think you are the holy just and true one in your understandings?!

What?

Why are you personally insulting me in your attack against me?

Can we not discuss?

Am I evil to you?



And you immediately oppose me too?

Ok, we can discuss.. after your presumptions and assumptions...

But neither of you got my point

because you were both too immediate to oppose me

instead of considering a word...

Whatever this is

Whenever this is

how much do you or I have to do with this

or is this done to you or I?


That's the point.

So all those people who say anything about Rapture believers following somebody false for some false reason

HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING!

No, it is not people walking up to UFOs and joining their space brothers rapture...

Don't worry about me, as if you are... I will not be doing that.

Thanks, though. Thanks a lot for your concern.

Pre tribulation rapture is a Dirty Lie of the Devil promoted by Zionist Hollywood, Zionist loving Tele Evangelists like the 700 Club and Pentecostal churches that use perverted modern HIV Bibles.

Remember these same Zionist Christians support the demonic nation of Israel that sacrificed 500+ children to the Devil in a Satanic ritual last summer.

The Rapture doctrine is no more credible than the tooth fairy and belongs to fantasy land. Why weren't tens of thousands of Christians in Syria and Iraq ruptured before they had their throats slut open by US backed moderate and ISIS terrorists?

The "Mark of the Beast" computer chip is at our doorstep and this will prove this theory as a one of these fables as spoken of in 2 Timothy 4:4

3rd Seal: a day's wages for a loaf of bread

4th Seal: worldwide famine, plague, etc.

5th Seal: abomination of desolation is placed/set up/seen standing in the holy place. This is described in Revolution just before the passages about the mark. The abomination is a statue made in the likeness of the anti-Christ......that is able to talk.....and put people to death.

Persecution by anti-Christ of first the Jews. God preserves a remnant in the wilderness. The man of evil then goes after the "offspring".....the gentile Christians grafted into the natural branch.

5th Seal Persecution and the mark of the beast goes on for several years until God cuts it short (ends it).....otherwise no flesh would be saved.


6th Seal: worldwide darkness for an unspecified period of time. The Elites hide in the mountains and caves......and declare that God's wrath is about to begin.


The 144,000 of Israel are sealed from harm. They will remain on earth.

Then a great multitude from all nations is seen in heaven. They can wear robes and have palm branches in their hands. These are the Christians who have been caught up by the angels. See parallel verse in Mt Chp 24.


Then the 7th Seal.......God's wrath.....the trumpet and bowel judgments. This will comprise the final one to two years of Daniel's 70th week. One of the trumpet judgments alone is described as lasting for five months.....where men are stung and in severe torment and pain for five months.

The billionaire global elites are probably right now in the process of engineering the 3rd and 4th Seals......and you will more than likely see evidence of this by the time of the 3rd blood moon in April.......and the final blood moon in October.

The great multitude of Christians in heaven that you speak of are not "raptured" they are martyred. There is no "rapture" before the abomination of desolation as Paul makes very clear when he states what has to happen in 2nd Thessalonians. Why is this so hard to understand? Its foolish beyond belief.

The great multitude of Christians in heaven that you speak of are not "raptured" they are martyred. There is no "rapture" before the abomination of desolation as Paul makes very clear when he states what has to happen in 2nd Thessalonians. Why is this so hard to understand? Its foolish beyond belief


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Abomination takes place at the beginning of the 5th Seal.


What I am referring to is the time just prior to the 7th Seal.

Matthew Chp 24

Abomination set up.............Rev: beginning of 5th Seal.
Persecution.....................5th Seal.
After a time.....God ends it.
Worldwide Darkness.................6th Seal.
The elect are caught up by angels....just prior to 7th Seal.


7th Seal.....God's wrath.

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THIS

Oh ok, I must have misread what you posted. Still don't agree, though. I believe we will be here during the wrath. We will just be protected from it. I believe we will be here through it all. A fixed point.

When everything and everyone who refused to believe is being destroyed all around us, not that I'm particularly happy about that, we will still be here. Death will even flee from the unsaved so that they may have longer to repent and come into salvation and we will be here to witness to them through all of it.

That's my firm belief.

If you see the abomination set up......flee to the wilderness. God will provide supernatural protection and a hiding place. This can be found in the psalms (20 and 30 area......I don't have my bible right now; Psalm 91).

This will require a huge first step of faith.......to leave everything behind......and just trust in God to do the rest. But He promises to do so for those with this faith.

This would be similar to Abraham obeying God......leaving his home......to go off to a strange land.

Or to David going out to face the giant with a sling and a stone. He knew that God would fight the battle for him.

God protects.

Exactly right.

Acknowledging it is your belief is progress from where this thread started.

Consider:


And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

That instruction is specifically to Jews in Israel after the Antichrist assumes total evil control.

Then let them which be in Judaea flee

That instruction is telling those Jews to flee immediately from there.

It is not telling Joe Blow from Idaho to run into the forest if he sees the Antichrist in the Temple in Jerusalem on tv...

"For in the time of trouble He shall hide me in His pavillion; In the secret place of Hs tabernacle He shall hide me; He shall hide me high upon a rock." (Ps 27: 5)

"You shall hide them in secrfet place of Your presence from the plots of man; You shall keep them secretly in a pavillion." (Ps 31: 20)

"The Angel of the Lord encamps all around those who fear Him, and delivers them." (Ps 34: 7)


"He also brought me out into a broad place; He delivered me because He delighted in me." (Ps 18: 19)



God:

"Because he has set his love upon Me, therefore I will deliver him; I will set him on high, because he has known My name. He shall call upon Me and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble; I will deliever him and honor him." (Ps 91: 14-15)

So then, NO, how do you reconcile the fact that you firmly believe that God protects believers through the Wrath of God while Scripture clearly states the beheading of those who stand for Christ and the Word of God by refusing the beast?

What do you say is The Purpose of The Great Tribulation?

What is it all about?

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First Gospel Message.... from the Book of Isaiah.......written approx. 700 years before Christ came.

So then, NO, how do you reconcile the fact that you firmly believe that God protects believers through the Wrath of God while Scripture clearly states the beheading of those who stand for Christ and the Word of God by refusing the beast?

What do you say is The Purpose of The Great Tribulation?

What is it all about?









He will just act like you never asked that question.

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Last Edited by Doometropolis on 11/30/2014 04:15 PM

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