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The Pre-tribulation Rapture is Jesuit authored FALSE DOCTRINE!

 
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what a stupid post.....typical of you Tropical. Of course babies and those not yet reached the age of accountability would be raptured as well... has nothing to do with accepting the gift for babies. nor for those born with mental defecits.

You've had your head up your buddah's butt for far too long.
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What about all the people who haven't read or had access to the Bible specifically the tribes that haven't had contact with the outside world? Is your "all loving" god going to throw them into a lake of fire to be tortured for eternity? All loving my ass...
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Youre right there with Tropical. ...total ignorance about basic spiritual principals. You agenda is showing...
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And what agenda would that be?
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Oh, please. Well, maybe its not so plain to the ignorant. Regardless, i dont tell all my secrets.

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Call me what you want. Tool. Idiot. Asshole. Dumbfuck. Moran.

The TRUTH does not require or care about you approval.
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If you would meditate, you would have all of your questions about God answered.
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bsflag

and no, God is not photon light.....read your bible.
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Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, it has always been & will always be. Everything that exist is made up of & is itself Energy. God is Energy & Energy is God... Look within instead of outside...
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oh you 2 must be Candace's people with the within crap.....have fun with that.
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Heed my words.



The pre-tribulation rapture is false doctrine, authored by Jesuits who's goal was to set people up for the false rapture deception described by Jesus himself in Luke 17, 20-37. The ones that are taken first are taken to die.



Do not believe the false doctrine in the "left behind" series. Its a lie and a massive deception. Just remember, if anything or anyone tries to "rapture" You and you have not seen the dead in Christ rise first and you are not in your spiritual form, it is false and a deception.
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bsmeter2


your words are false. the pre-trib rapture event is correct.
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You go ahead then... I willbe waiting for Jesus to establish his kingdom on Earth while you are in bed with the anti-christ. Have a nice trip.






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Sure been fun. I think my work here is done.

See you later sheep !
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Considering we are already through the tribulation, this entire thread is a mute point.
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538 ad - 1798 ad

1260 years (42 months, Time,Times,Dividing of Time, 1260days) that the 1st beast (RCC) destroyed any true "Christian" she could.

Indeed.
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Wether post trib, mid trib, pre trib, or no rapture, we are assured that we will be known by our love. The greatest fruit of the spirit, the one that will emanate from us above all others the closer we get to Christ and grow in him will be love, brothers and sisters.
God's word tests our hearts, including our love for one another.
God bless you all.
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I AGREE . . .the rapture is pre-wrath. There is NO pre tribulation rapture. This message was given to me on the 16th of November, and I submit it to you in Jesus Name.hf


****THE MESSAGE****

“Write, for the Gifts of the Holy Spirit are yea and amen. They have not been done away with. As you offer these gifts in Jesus Name and they are refused do not doubt in your heart. You have done what I have called you do. Time is so short for the rule of mankind that it would startle your mind if I were to tell you of the time of my intervention. As you know, the days to come will eventually be so horrific that I will have to intervene and put a stop to the coming tribulation and wrath or all of mankind would die.

It is according to my calling and election that you and your family, each and every member, is alive at this exact period of time. My daughter you had better believe the following. Fear has no part in this; as I will carry my Beloved Ones trough the fiery trials that are to come. I tell you to remind others when the trials ware them down, I will for a season carry them along. Do you recall the painting, “Footsteps In The Sand?” That painting was inspired by my Holy Spirit.

My daughter I desire you stress to all people what a glorious reality it is to be a son or daughter of the Most High God of the Universe and Endless Ages. I alone see into every heart and mind. I am ever knowing, and my judgment is just and true. I make no mistakes.

I am God Almighty and I change not. I am the same yesterday, today and always. My principles remain consistent. Rebellion, lawlessness, and a life style of sin bring eternal death in the lake of fire unless repented of.
Now, my beloved daughter you are one of the people I have chosen to be my scribe and my mouthpiece.

WARN AMERICANS . . . warn them now! You know time for mankind’s rule is fast slipping away.

BY NEXT YEAR AT THIS TIME THE WORLD WILL BE TURNED UPSIDE DOWN.

Everything I have written in my Scripture by my Holy Spirit will either be fulfilled or be in the process of fulfillment. People speak foolishness when they say, “we don’t know the day or the hour,” and then ADD . . . “there is no reason to be concerned regarding the coming of Christ.” They reason His return may be hundreds of years away. NO, NO, NO, and again I say NO, thus says the Lord God Almighty. Soon and very soon shall be that Great and Notable Day of the Lord.

All human beings around the entire world will see the SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN as the sky rolls back as a scroll. The majority of mankind will scream in terror as they ask for the mountains and rocks to fall on them.

ONLY my beloved ones will be safe. [Read Revelation chapter 6:12-17]

My Saints will be CHANGED in the twinkling of an eye and given bodies like Jesus glorious body. [Read 1 Corinthians 15:51-55]

WHEN THE SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN APPEARS; I WILL GATHER MY ELECT, My Saints who are IN Jesus Christ from around the world, into My Holy Heaven.

In addition: on that day millions will go directly to hell with an eternity ahead of endless suffering. Tell everyone to read my Book, my Holy Bible. My purpose and plan has never been hidden from my people. It has been written and sealed with the BLOOD OF MESSIAH, the Lord Jesus Christ. As it is written so shall it come to pass.

My daughter, I ask that you send this message far and wide. Hold nothing back. I ask all of my beloved ones in Jesus Christ to love, honor and serve the Most High God of all love and power. Yea, I will be with you even to the end of this age, and on into an eternity of joy and glory without end.”

AMENbump
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Awesome message.... I know this is Father speaking...I know his words. We pray to be ready because it is now.

Sister in Christ
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Heed my words.


Yet more proof that the pre-tribulation rapture is false doctrine, as Hollywood is promoting it. Jesus returns at the last (7th) trumpet, not before. That's when the rapture takes place, and the dead in Christ arise and those few who remain alive are changed into their spiritual form. We never leave the earth.

Paul's words were in colloquial Greek and when he says "clouds" he is quoting the book of Enoch, as Jude did, and referencing Jesus returning with great "clouds" of angels,or a great multitude of angels.

The pre-tribulation rapture is false doctrine, authored by Jesuits who's goal was to set people up for the false rapture deception described by Jesus himself in Luke 17, 20-37. The ones that are taken first are taken to die.

In The Book of Matthew, the parable of the wheat and the tares, the tares are bundled up and then harvested first (the unbelievers), then the wheat (the believers) are gathered up.

Do not believe the false doctrine in the "left behind" series. Its a lie and a massive deception. Just remember, if anything or anyone tries to "rapture" You and you have not seen the dead in Christ rise first and you are not in your spiritual form, it is false and a deception.
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Fun to watch religionTards discuss at lenght something that does not exist.
Even a lot of religiontards don't believe in the "rapture",
I never did, and its like a laser light pointer driving a cat
crazy chasing it, "pre" trib or "post" trib?
How about in the middle trib?
If god does exist (an open question) the bible clearly states that he/she is no respecter of persons, the main argument of the "pre" trib bunch being that god would not put his people through that.
When he put Job through all kinds of trouble to win a bar bet with Satan.
And made Moses wander in the desert for 40 years, him dying right before he reached it.
And people wonder why I am Agnostic
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How sad to not believe in the raputure and be left behind
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If you would meditate, you would have all of your questions about God answered.
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bsflag

and no, God is not photon light.....read your bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28756018


Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, it has always been & will always be. Everything that exist is made up of & is itself Energy. God is Energy & Energy is God... Look within instead of outside...
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oh you 2 must be Candace's people with the within crap.....have fun with that.
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Idk who the fuck you're talking bout but k... Have fun telling people there going to hell to be tortured for eternity for not believing a 2,000 yo man made book...

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Do any of you Dicks actually believe the same thing ?

You are the same religion and each one of you believes something different .

This is why there is over 20 000 different Christian denominations.
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Call me what you want. Tool. Idiot. Asshole. Dumbfuck. Moran.

The TRUTH does not require or care about you approval.
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If you would meditate, you would have all of your questions about God answered.
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bsflag

and no, God is not photon light.....read your bible. I have read it
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1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.


Still waiting for your reply Anon 6018.

Your Christ often meditated. Are you calling Jesus a liar?
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Do any of you Dicks actually believe the same thing ?

You are the same religion and each one of you believes something different .

This is why there is over 20 000 different Christian denominations.
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The World Counsel of Churches and affiliates has just about cinched the knot on the truth for the generations of the end. satan has been poisoning the well long before that though.



Mark 13:5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:
Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Mark 13:8 continued... and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows."

Amos 8

11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:

The famine of the end times is for hearing the Word of God with understanding and the Truth.

And there we have your observation in Gods own chosen words.
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so the baptists and other conservative
protestants
have just been punked by jesuits?
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say "pushers"...


What is the great evil fruit of this false doctrine?


Tell us why you say it is so wrong to believe

that it might be scripturally justified that Christ might rescue some that have not been appointed for wrath from the unleashing of the Wrath of God upon all the earth and hoping it is true and hoping to be among those so blessed?

All the while recognizing, of course... that if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen, and we live until we die, which still happens to be whenever He Says So...

So what exactly is your problem here?
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Because it leads the ignorant and unlearned into further complacence and ultimately directly into the arms of satan who will come before Christ posing as God..


Read below to the end of the chapter paying particularly close to how God feels about those that teach His children to fly to save their souls.


Ezekiel 13

9 And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord God.
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To the wondering Ac:
Take your time and listen to this ex-pretrib believer...he's really prepared on HSs and demolish this false doctrine so clearly even a "bip" can get it easily


Heed my words.


Yet more proof that the pre-tribulation rapture is false doctrine, as Hollywood is promoting it. Jesus returns at the last (7th) trumpet, not before. That's when the rapture takes place, and the dead in Christ arise and those few who remain alive are changed into their spiritual form. We never leave the earth.

Paul's words were in colloquial Greek and when he says "clouds" he is quoting the book of Enoch, as Jude did, and referencing Jesus returning with great "clouds" of angels,or a great multitude of angels.

The pre-tribulation rapture is false doctrine, authored by Jesuits who's goal was to set people up for the false rapture deception described by Jesus himself in Luke 17, 20-37. The ones that are taken first are taken to die.

In The Book of Matthew, the parable of the wheat and the tares, the tares are bundled up and then harvested first (the unbelievers), then the wheat (the believers) are gathered up.

Do not believe the false doctrine in the "left behind" series. Its a lie and a massive deception. Just remember, if anything or anyone tries to "rapture" You and you have not seen the dead in Christ rise first and you are not in your spiritual form, it is false and a deception.
 Quoting: NewtonsOwn


WTF is Rapture? is this some kind of American construct?

Lived in many places in Europe, among fellow Christians and none have got a fucking clue what this is all about.

Is it a cult or what??
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Centuries' passed since Gutenberg...but seems too many yankees still prefer to listen TV sermons than reading the Revelation by themselves
So sad

`sigh


Really guys and gals.

Not ONE Christian on this planet believed in a pre trib rapture before Cyrus Scofield added it to his study notes that were later included into his bible.

The rapture theory was literally "invented" by twisting timelines as so many have sadly parroted in this thread.

Jesuit Francisco Rivera hated the protestant church.

The protestant church correctly identified the popes of Rome as the "man of sin" and the RCC and the mother of harlots.

To "counter" this, Jesuit Francisco Rivera twisted Scripture and invented the "rapture" doctrine.

It is NOT biblical.

It is a JESUIT doctrine.

The same Jesuits who murdered 100+ million jews/Christians/muslims/atheists/buddhists.

It is a LIE to take the eyes off the mother of harlots and the man of sin.

The "antichrist" if you want to use that term is right in front of you...

:hiddenhand:


John 17 : 15

I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.


Christ himself prayed that you would NOT be taken away. But kept from the judgements.

You WILL be here until the end. You will make the choice to follow Gods Law (Exodus 20) or the beasts (rcc).

Only one "type" of Christian will NOT receive the mark of rome.

Immediately after the verse speaking of the mark, the description of those who do NOT take the mark is given...

Revelation 14 : 12

Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.


Keep the law of God (Exodus 20) you will not receive the mark. You WILL be here to make the choice.
 Quoting: sundayisNOTthesabbath


True!
Let me say... that gesuit is the false prophet pavin the way for someone else...

Btw if u read the Revelation its quite easy to understand what u need to do and what not

Dont take the mark
dont bow to the antichrist and its idols
Stay strong to The Word, Untouchable, Immutable

Instead of waitin for the rapture... prepare the soul to accept Martyrdom, by guillotine or else, as a blessin


I dare you guys to take a look at this:

The Warning - The Second Coming

many, many Holy Servants are being convinced about the Holyness of this Prophet and its mission
conversions abound
As soon as next synod will change the Word, a schism will happen...right after persecution will start

We have all been warned
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Do any of you ***** actually believe the same thing ?

You are the same religion and each one of you believes something different .

This is why there is over 20 000 different Christian denominations.
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One more reason the beast (RCC) and the false prophet (her harlot protestant daughters) are thrown into the lake of fire "together".


They have together so polluted the Word of God to make it confusion and lead millions into destruction.

Revelation 19 : 20

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.


That is why there are "20,000 different Christian denominations"
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May I ask a question for those who are well-versed in the Bible.

How do you find/remember/come up with Bible verses so quickly to help you prove doctrine?

No matter how many times I read key verses, I only vaguely remember some words in order to use Biblegateway or a concordance to find the verses ... and it still takes me a long while. Yet, many of you find verses within minutes in order to post a response.

What is the key that I am missing?

I want to be able to evangelize more, but refrain from doing so since I can not come up with verses for a timely response.
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Smoke a big fat one dude. You will see the light and much more.
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FYI, I'm a woman, not a dude. And I do not smoke drugs. Your response is immature. geesh!
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Call me what you want. Tool. Idiot. Asshole. Dumbfuck. Moran.

The TRUTH does not require or care about you approval.
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If you would meditate, you would have all of your questions about God answered.
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bsflag

and no, God is not photon light.....read your bible. I have read it
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1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.


Still waiting for your reply Anon 6018.

Your Christ often meditated. Are you calling Jesus a liar?
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it doesn't say PHOTON light, now does it?

Hebrews 12:29 for our God is a consuming fire.

is God light, or fire? or spirit?

Mark 1:35: Very early in the morning, while it was still dark, Jesus got up, left the house and went off to a solitary place, where he prayed.

Jesus prayed....and gave instruction on how to pray.

sorry, but you fail again Tropical.
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The father will keep his promise of a Rapture (Taking away) event) that is what we should be concern about is to be ready at all times.

Israel is the key - the push for 2-state country is at the door. That is why "O" said to Abbas wait to January. Prime Minster of Israel is up for election. That should be interesting.

God will be on time - Peace & Safety is what they will say then ....Bammmmmmmmmmmm

Be ready
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RELIGIOUS BULLSHIT is allways a FAILURE!
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Do any of you Dicks actually believe the same thing ?

You are the same religion and each one of you believes something different .

This is why there is over 20 000 different Christian denominations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65568267


The World Counsel of Churches and affiliates has just about cinched the knot on the truth for the generations of the end. satan has been poisoning the well long before that though.



Mark 13:5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:
Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Mark 13:8 continued... and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows."

Amos 8

11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:

The famine of the end times is for hearing the Word of God with understanding and the Truth.

And there we have your observation in Gods own chosen words.
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When all you proof and replies lies in Bible quotes it is tantamount to gibberish.
The reason there are so many denominations is because of the way each person interprets a book written in gibberish.
If this was the book of a omnipotent God i think everyone would get the EXACT same interpretation.
The Bible is a book written by man.
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Do any of you Dicks actually believe the same thing ?

You are the same religion and each one of you believes something different .

This is why there is over 20 000 different Christian denominations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65568267


The World Counsel of Churches and affiliates has just about cinched the knot on the truth for the generations of the end. satan has been poisoning the well long before that though.



Mark 13:5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:
Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Mark 13:8 continued... and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows."

Amos 8

11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:

The famine of the end times is for hearing the Word of God with understanding and the Truth.

And there we have your observation in Gods own chosen words.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24908410





When all you proof and replies lies in Bible quotes it is tantamount to gibberish.
The reason there are so many denominations is because of the way each person interprets a book written in gibberish.
If this was the book of a omnipotent God i think everyone would get the EXACT same interpretation.
The Bible is a book written by man.
slaphim
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I rather be hopeful of a Rapture then dead in spirit with no hope of an eternal promise from God
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Something weird is definitely going on. I have been trying to post a response and it's simply not letting me, over and over again.
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Either too long or the link is unapproved.


Thanks for the exposing of the Jesuit lie.

Jesuit Francisco Rivera invented this lie and the entire Christian world knew it as a lie.

It was not until Cyrus Scofield in error added it to his study notes did the lie spread though the protestant world.

Before than, every Commandment keeping Christian knew it to be a lie of Rome to take eyes off her.

Sadly , it has worked.
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sadly that is what happened.. thankyou for that truth... and its just like the Yahweh lie too... did you Yahweh believers know that the name is not in the OT at all.
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Something weird is definitely going on. I have been trying to post a response and it's simply not letting me, over and over again.
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Either too long or the link is unapproved.


Thanks for the exposing of the Jesuit lie.

Jesuit Francisco Rivera invented this lie and the entire Christian world knew it as a lie.

It was not until Cyrus Scofield in error added it to his study notes did the lie spread though the protestant world.

Before than, every Commandment keeping Christian knew it to be a lie of Rome to take eyes off her.

Sadly , it has worked.
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sadly that is what happened.. thankyou for that truth... and its just like the Yahweh lie too... did you Yahweh believers know that the name is not in the OT at all.
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The father will keep his promise of a Rapture (Taking away) event) that is what we should be concern about is to be ready at all times.

Israel is the key - the push for 2-state country is at the door. That is why "O" said to Abbas wait to January. Prime Minster of Israel is up for election. That should be interesting.

God will be on time - Peace & Safety is what they will say then ....Bammmmmmmmmmmm

Be ready
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What you fail to see is that this rapture doctrine being paraded around the churches is just another call to peace and saftey being a fly out manuever in and of itself..

The words below are both hostorical and prophetic. I dont normally paste so many passages but these are critical to the truth of the matter.

Ezekiel 13

4 O Israel, thy prophets are like the foxes in the deserts.

5 Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the Lord.

6 They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, The Lord saith: and the Lord hath not sent them: and they have made others to hope that they would confirm the word.

7 Have ye not seen a vain vision, and have ye not spoken a lying divination, whereas ye say, The Lord saith it; albeit I have not spoken?

8 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Because ye have spoken vanity, and seen lies, therefore, behold, I am against you, saith the Lord God.

9 And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord God.

10 Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it with untempered morter:

11 Say unto them which daub it with untempered morter, that it shall fall: there shall be an overflowing shower; and ye, O great hailstones, shall fall; and a stormy wind shall rend it.

12 Lo, when the wall is fallen, shall it not be said unto you, Where is the daubing wherewith ye have daubed it?

13 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; I will even rend it with a stormy wind in my fury; and there shall be an overflowing shower in mine anger, and great hailstones in my fury to consume it.

14 So will I break down the wall that ye have daubed with untempered morter, and bring it down to the ground, so that the foundation thereof shall be discovered, and it shall fall, and ye shall be consumed in the midst thereof: and ye shall know that I am the Lord.
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Do not believe the false doctrine in the "left behind" series. Its a lie and a massive deception. Just remember, if anything or anyone tries to "rapture" You and you have not seen the dead in Christ rise first and you are not in your spiritual form, it is false and a deception.



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The father will keep his promise of a Rapture (Taking away) event) that is what we should be concern about is to be ready at all times.

Israel is the key - the push for 2-state country is at the door. That is why "O" said to Abbas wait to January. Prime Minster of Israel is up for election. That should be interesting.

God will be on time - Peace & Safety is what they will say then ....Bammmmmmmmmmmm

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What you fail to see is that this rapture doctrine being paraded around the churches is just another call to peace and saftey being a fly out manuever in and of itself..

The words below are both hostorical and prophetic. I dont normally paste so many passages but these are critical to the truth of the matter.

Ezekiel 13

4 O Israel, thy prophets are like the foxes in the deserts.

5 Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the Lord.

6 They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, The Lord saith: and the Lord hath not sent them: and they have made others to hope that they would confirm the word.

7 Have ye not seen a vain vision, and have ye not spoken a lying divination, whereas ye say, The Lord saith it; albeit I have not spoken?

8 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Because ye have spoken vanity, and seen lies, therefore, behold, I am against you, saith the Lord God.

9 And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord God.

10 Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it with untempered morter:

11 Say unto them which daub it with untempered morter, that it shall fall: there shall be an overflowing shower; and ye, O great hailstones, shall fall; and a stormy wind shall rend it.

12 Lo, when the wall is fallen, shall it not be said unto you, Where is the daubing wherewith ye have daubed it?

13 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; I will even rend it with a stormy wind in my fury; and there shall be an overflowing shower in mine anger, and great hailstones in my fury to consume it.

14 So will I break down the wall that ye have daubed with untempered morter, and bring it down to the ground, so that the foundation thereof shall be discovered, and it shall fall, and ye shall be consumed in the midst thereof: and ye shall know that I am the Lord.
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No peace for those who are not watching and believing his promise.
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just don't quit or get the mark which is a shot and it won't matter...
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You are all trying to use your own understanding and knowledge to "figure out" if there is a rapture.
But I believe you have a veil over your eyes and heart. You do not seek GOD out, your hearts are hardened and GOD will nor reveal anything to you unless you truly seek him.

Can an earthworm understand the human anatomy?

GOD speaks to his children and his children listen.
He sent his son Jesus for you all. And you have rejected him. I'm doing my best to lead you to the right path , but you do not want to hear it.

If your heart is seeking for truth, GOD gives all divine knowledge.

And for all those who are truly seeking ... understand the feast days. Love ya all.

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Heed my words.


Yet more proof that the pre-tribulation rapture is false doctrine, as Hollywood is promoting it. Jesus returns at the last (7th) trumpet, not before. That's when the rapture takes place, and the dead in Christ arise and those few who remain alive are changed into their spiritual form. We never leave the earth.

Paul's words were in colloquial Greek and when he says "clouds" he is quoting the book of Enoch, as Jude did, and referencing Jesus returning with great "clouds" of angels,or a great multitude of angels.

The pre-tribulation rapture is false doctrine, authored by Jesuits who's goal was to set people up for the false rapture deception described by Jesus himself in Luke 17, 20-37. The ones that are taken first are taken to die.

In The Book of Matthew, the parable of the wheat and the tares, the tares are bundled up and then harvested first (the unbelievers), then the wheat (the believers) are gathered up.

Do not believe the false doctrine in the "left behind" series. Its a lie and a massive deception. Just remember, if anything or anyone tries to "rapture" You and you have not seen the dead in Christ rise first and you are not in your spiritual form, it is false and a deception.
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Yeah!!!!!! Thread is 100% right
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just don't quit or get the mark which is a shot and it won't matter...
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Oh God, not the mark!! I remember when I was a kid. Christians said the Birth certificate was the mark, then the SSN, then the drivers lic, then the bar code. Now this generation seems to think it is the RFID implants. What will you use when this one fails LOL! I told the Christians back when they first started panicking about RFID implants that it was nothing to worry about. Hell, they all started end of the world garbage when 911 happened. They were running around like chickens with their heads cut off and I was laughing my ass off.

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