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 User ID: 2483248  United States11/28/2014 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every generation (around 80 or so) since the fictitious Jesus was fictitiously crucified has spoken these same words. What has happened...NOTHING. Every generations swears up and down, that THEIR generation is the one and that THEY have the scriptural proof to back it up. My grandmother, bless her heart, thought we would be raptured back in the 60's and she thought she had scriptural proof. So I ask you, who is right then, if everyone says their generation is the one to be raptured? I'll tell you who is right...No Christian is. Christians believe that the rapture is something that originated with their religion. That's not true. It is Buddhist. Look it up before you blurt out incorrect garbage. What it means in reality is totally different then as interpreted by Christians. So, don't say I'm wrong just because you rely on the preacher. Please watch this video and learn something. OH NO! a Donatard |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24908410 United States11/28/2014 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24908410 Any understanding one has of what is written belongs to God, so to say one mans is rudimentary while elevating ones own is just down right silliness. The trump of God is the last which is also the 7th. And satan will elevate himself as God, not announce that he is satan. If you're looking for an evil satan well you might just get one in all the mind games that will be played and then bow your knee to satan when he steps in to save the day. The only time when satan will be fully revealed in the eyes of all mankind is when Christ comes like a thierf in the the night and rips the blinders off everyones eyes like a bandaid stuck to a scab. Why does Christ come like a thief, and why is it in the night? Because satan is of the darkness and the world will think Christ has already returned. Talk about having the rug pulled out from under someone by a thief in the night.. Chronologically, it is against scripture and what it says for the FLESH rapture to be at the 7th trumpet. It is prior. The problem with a lot of the people who deny the rapture which occurs after the 6th seal is opened is they are ignorant of Jewish tradition and its fulfillment by Jesus Christ. A lot of the ignorance is first not to understand what scripture actually says and then attribute the limited false (non rapture) belief to a Darby or Scofield interpretation which basically doesn't having any bearing on the truth. The separation of weeds from wheat have a specific meaning and is tied into the ancient Jewish grain harvest. Two days before Passover, the barley harvest began and a grain offering was made. After Passover, the counting of the Omer started. It is a 49 day period. It is a time of mourning. [link to en.wikipedia.org] HERE IT IS!!!! Christ speaks the words and even tells the workings of the opening of the 6th seal. From biblehub.com The Return of the Son of Man …29"But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30"And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. 31"And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other. At the end of the counting of the Omer is "Shavuot" which is when Moses went up the mountain to receive the Law. Two days later the wheat harvest ended. The whole process was 53 days. The worthy Lamb, Jesus Christ, is the only one who could end sacrifice and fulfill the Law. He died and was resurrected on the 3rd day. He spent 40 days on earth and ascended into Heaven. 10 Days later the Holy Spirit came upon the apostles in the upper room and the church was started in seed. LOOK at when it was done. The same day the traditional Jewish wheat harvest ended. The harvest is THE CHURCH, THE BRIDE in flesh after the 6th seal is opened just like he says in the above passage. The naysayers and doubters in what the scripture actually says need to quit peddling their scriptural and spiritual ignorance. Honey satan sets up in Jerusalem elevating himself above God at the 6th seal, 6th trump, and 6th vial. If youre going to look for a snatching away at the 6th trump well the destroyer sure will have one ready for you. Revelation 6:12 "And I behold when He had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood." Revelation 6:13 "And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as the fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind." 666.. so simple a child can understand it; Revelation 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. Revelation 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. Did you happen to know right about now a third part if the world calls themselves Christian.. and most of those believe in some sort of pre or mid tribulation rapture? Revelation 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. Revelation 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. Revelation 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. Revelation 6 I addressed in a previous reply. Genesis 7:16 And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the LORD shut him in. Revelation 3 7 “And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write, ‘These things says He who is holy, He who is true, “He who has the key of David, He who opens and no one shuts, and shuts and no one opens”: 8 “I know your works. See, I have set before you an open door, and no one can shut it; for you have a little strength, have kept My word, and have not denied My name. 9 Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you. 10 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. Why did John see a door in heaven opened right before he was in spirit? Revelation 4:1 After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking with me, saying, “Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this.” Only Christ is worthy to open those things sealed or deliver understanding of the key of David. When given that key one might understand the things kept in mystery from the foundations of the world. For any that truly seek His truth they might diligently seek out what the churches of Smyrna and Philadelphia taught so they might be blessed just the same. Those are the only two church "types" that Christ is fully pleased with upon His return. The others let him down, except the few individuals from each of the remaining five churches that might love Him enough to still receive the Truth regardless of what they had been taught by the traditions of men. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 49789413  Philippines11/28/2014 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Before the tribulation there will be 2300 days of temple sacrifices. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49789413 Thread: Passover 2015 and the 2028 Jubilee year It is during these 2300 days that apostle John will prophesy again: 9 So I went to the angel and asked him to give me the little scroll. He said to me, “Take it and eat it. It will turn your stomach sour, but ‘in your mouth it will be as sweet as honey.’” 10 I took the little scroll from the angel’s hand and ate it. It tasted as sweet as honey in my mouth, but when I had eaten it, my stomach turned sour. 11 Then I was told, “You must prophesy again about many peoples, nations, languages and kings.” Quoting: Revelation 10I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. 2 But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. 3 And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.” Quoting: Revelation 11Only after the 2300 days of temple sacrifices will the antichrist and the 2 witnesses appear. After the antichrist desecrates the temple and stops the temple sacrifices (which will last for 2300 days), the 2 witnesses will start their 1260 days of prophesying. After the 2 witnesses finish their 1260 days prophesying, the antichrist will kill the 2 witnesses, and after 3 1/2 days, the antichrist will also trample on the holy city for another 42 months. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28756018 United States11/28/2014 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every generation (around 80 or so) since the fictitious Jesus was fictitiously crucified has spoken these same words. What has happened...NOTHING. Every generations swears up and down, that THEIR generation is the one and that THEY have the scriptural proof to back it up. My grandmother, bless her heart, thought we would be raptured back in the 60's and she thought she had scriptural proof. So I ask you, who is right then, if everyone says their generation is the one to be raptured? I'll tell you who is right...No Christian is. Christians believe that the rapture is something that originated with their religion. That's not true. It is Buddhist. Look it up before you blurt out incorrect garbage. What it means in reality is totally different then as interpreted by Christians. So, don't say I'm wrong just because you rely on the preacher. Please watch this video and learn something. complete  yes you are wrong Tropical and just talking out your  as you always do. your youtube vid is garbage |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 61374616 United States11/28/2014 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every generation (around 80 or so) since the fictitious Jesus was fictitiously crucified has spoken these same words. What has happened...NOTHING. Every generations swears up and down, that THEIR generation is the one and that THEY have the scriptural proof to back it up. My grandmother, bless her heart, thought we would be raptured back in the 60's and she thought she had scriptural proof. So I ask you, who is right then, if everyone says their generation is the one to be raptured? I'll tell you who is right...No Christian is. Christians believe that the rapture is something that originated with their religion. That's not true. It is Buddhist. Look it up before you blurt out incorrect garbage. What it means in reality is totally different then as interpreted by Christians. So, don't say I'm wrong just because you rely on the preacher. Please watch this video and learn something. OH NO! a Donatard You may not like the man, but you can not deny his research. Buddha was around a long time before hey sues, I mean Jesus. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28756018 United States11/28/2014 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every generation (around 80 or so) since the fictitious Jesus was fictitiously crucified has spoken these same words. What has happened...NOTHING. Every generations swears up and down, that THEIR generation is the one and that THEY have the scriptural proof to back it up. My grandmother, bless her heart, thought we would be raptured back in the 60's and she thought she had scriptural proof. So I ask you, who is right then, if everyone says their generation is the one to be raptured? I'll tell you who is right...No Christian is. Christians believe that the rapture is something that originated with their religion. That's not true. It is Buddhist. Look it up before you blurt out incorrect garbage. What it means in reality is totally different then as interpreted by Christians. So, don't say I'm wrong just because you rely on the preacher. Please watch this video and learn something. OH NO! a Donatard You may not like the man, but you can not deny his research. Buddha was around a long time before hey sues, I mean Jesus. I can and do deny it...Your Buddha is false and phony crap. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 64889692 United States11/28/2014 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I AGREE . . .the rapture is pre-wrath. There is NO pre tribulation rapture. This message was given to me on the 16th of November, and I submit it to you in Jesus Name. Quoting: Messenger 65331436  ****THE MESSAGE**** “Write, for the Gifts of the Holy Spirit are yea and amen. They have not been done away with. As you offer these gifts in Jesus Name and they are refused do not doubt in your heart. You have done what I have called you do. Time is so short for the rule of mankind that it would startle your mind if I were to tell you of the time of my intervention. As you know, the days to come will eventually be so horrific that I will have to intervene and put a stop to the coming tribulation and wrath or all of mankind would die. It is according to my calling and election that you and your family, each and every member, is alive at this exact period of time. My daughter you had better believe the following. Fear has no part in this; as I will carry my Beloved Ones trough the fiery trials that are to come. I tell you to remind others when the trials ware them down, I will for a season carry them along. Do you recall the painting, “Footsteps In The Sand?” That painting was inspired by my Holy Spirit. My daughter I desire you stress to all people what a glorious reality it is to be a son or daughter of the Most High God of the Universe and Endless Ages. I alone see into every heart and mind. I am ever knowing, and my judgment is just and true. I make no mistakes. I am God Almighty and I change not. I am the same yesterday, today and always. My principles remain consistent. Rebellion, lawlessness, and a life style of sin bring eternal death in the lake of fire unless repented of. Now, my beloved daughter you are one of the people I have chosen to be my scribe and my mouthpiece. WARN AMERICANS . . . warn them now! You know time for mankind’s rule is fast slipping away. BY NEXT YEAR AT THIS TIME THE WORLD WILL BE TURNED UPSIDE DOWN. Everything I have written in my Scripture by my Holy Spirit will either be fulfilled or be in the process of fulfillment. People speak foolishness when they say, “we don’t know the day or the hour,” and then ADD . . . “there is no reason to be concerned regarding the coming of Christ.” They reason His return may be hundreds of years away. NO, NO, NO, and again I say NO, thus says the Lord God Almighty. Soon and very soon shall be that Great and Notable Day of the Lord. All human beings around the entire world will see the SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN as the sky rolls back as a scroll. The majority of mankind will scream in terror as they ask for the mountains and rocks to fall on them. ONLY my beloved ones will be safe. [Read Revelation chapter 6:12-17] My Saints will be CHANGED in the twinkling of an eye and given bodies like Jesus glorious body. [Read 1 Corinthians 15:51-55] WHEN THE SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN APPEARS; I WILL GATHER MY ELECT, My Saints who are IN Jesus Christ from around the world, into My Holy Heaven. In addition: on that day millions will go directly to hell with an eternity ahead of endless suffering. Tell everyone to read my Book, my Holy Bible. My purpose and plan has never been hidden from my people. It has been written and sealed with the BLOOD OF MESSIAH, the Lord Jesus Christ. As it is written so shall it come to pass. My daughter, I ask that you send this message far and wide. Hold nothing back. I ask all of my beloved ones in Jesus Christ to love, honor and serve the Most High God of all love and power. Yea, I will be with you even to the end of this age, and on into an eternity of joy and glory without end.” AMEN  We Meet In The Clouds... As We Walk And Reminisce About Ones PAST... Proving Abbas Spiritual Truth... The Clouds of Peace.... Yes Its Time To Come CLEAN... Children Learning Everywhere As Needed... Its Time To Become As Children WASH Themselves, Of The Sins That Chains Them To The Abyss.. When Abba Shows Himself The Dirty Mouths Are Not Tolerated... The Way Of Truth Begins With You... FIRST WASH... Fathers Image Reveals Spiritual Truth When Abba Shows Himself... The Truth Frees One From The Chain That Binds Them To The Abyss... A Missing Link... Removes A Chain... And Frees You By The Truth Of Father Abba... The Man Of Truth... As MOSES... Move Over Satan Exiting Slavery By Breaking The Bondage Of LIARS... The MEEK Shall Inherit The Earth As The Chain Takes The Dirty Deniers Of It Way Passed Hell Straight To The Abyss... By The Power And Authority Given To THe Man Of Truth... The Holy Ghost... Ones Most High Priest... Is This Not Written In Your Learning?... Even In Those Most Sacred Books Of Knowledge You Call Your Bibles?... FIRST WASH... A Spiritual Baptism... ASB... A Sacred Brother Of Jesus Christ... INSIDE OUT... I Now Say I Deliver One Undeniable Truth... The Living Truth Of Jesus Christ... That RING In Your Ears As The Dirt In Your Eyes... RING RING RING... Like A Virgin A New Born Of Christ... LET THOSE CHURCH BELLS RING... THe Name Above All Names JESUS CHRIST... The Word RING As A Tribute For A Time Of Grace A Moment To Reminisce... As We Walk The Path Of Truth... UKFM... Understanding Kingdoms Fathers Manifesting... As One Connects The DOTS OF TRUTH... OVE... Ones Visual Example... Seeing Is Believing... SIB... Seek It Brothers... The Manifestation Of The Holy Ghost... Gods-host If One Cuts Off Their Left Hand... The HOST Still Remains... Here One Speaks Truth... The GHOST... Over Death... I Hold The Key Of Truth... Your Chain And My CHAIN Lead In Two Different Paths... Its Your Call... *8* Show Me A Lie... Or Accept My Offering CUP... Christs Undeniable Proof Of Ones Spirit... A CUP OF TRUTH... Now 3:15 As I Write This DATE... 11/28/2014 As An Example... Delivering Abbas True Example I Am The MASTER... Of Righteousness... 11/28/2014... / / The Month ... Mans Oneness Now Teaches Here ... Ones PATH... Ones Perfection 11/10...The Path Of Perfection... Begins And Ends With Ones Truth... 2014... Truly Ones Cross... The CROSS Of GOD... The CROSS I Lay My Soul And Set My SPirit Free... The Spirit Of THe Holy Ghost... The CROWN Of Crowns... Christ Reveals Ones Word Now... The King Of Truth By THe Heavens RING... The Heavenly Rings Of Angels That Back My Every Thought... Yes So So So Many Stop As They Rot... Revealing Ones Truth Is Not For The Faint Of Heart... As They Turn To Stone... Spiritual Truth One Needs Everyone... This Makes A Heart Beat Strong... As They Continue To The End... Those That Truly Seek As Written Shall Find At Both Ends Their Comes A Time In Ones Heart They Meet... They Meet Between Life And Death... SIB... Seek It Brothers And Find The Truth As Written... And Now Seen... For The Very First Time A World Being Washed As We Speak... A Spiritual Flood Of Ones Truth... Ones Fiery Word... The Living Word Of Truth... FIERY... Fathers Image Everyone's Righteous YAH... Your Abba Himself Now Cleansing This World As He Lives Life... This Your First Wash... Ghost Over Death... The Man Over Death ... Father ABBA... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24908410 United States11/28/2014 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | harpazo Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65560907 – properly, seize by force; snatch up, suddenly and decisively – like someone seizing bounty (spoil, a prize); to take by an open display of force (i.e. not covertly or secretly). [link to biblehub.com] Same greek word below in bold. Don't trust your inheritance at the hands of another man. Matthew 13:19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side. With some meat like that it makes me wonder why your A/C? Just so the tards dont think your trying to pull a fast one on their simple minds. Mat 13:19 When any oneG3956 hearethG191 theG3588 wordG3056 of theG3588 kingdom,G932 andG2532 understandethG4920 it not,G3361 then comethG2064 theG3588 wickedG4190 one, andG2532 catcheth awayG726 that which was sownG4687 inG1722 hisG846 heart.G2588 ThisG3778 isG2076 he which received seedG4687 byG3844 theG3588 way side.G3598 1Th 4:17 ThenG1899 weG2249 which are aliveG2198 and remainG4035 shall be caught upG726 togetherG260 withG4862 themG846 inG1722 the clouds,G3507 to meetG1519 G529 theG3588 LordG2962 inG1519 the air:G109 andG2532 soG3779 shall we everG3842 beG2071 withG4862 the Lord.G2962 G726 ἁρπάζω harpazō har-pad'-zo From a derivative of G138; to seize (in various applications): - catch (away, up), pluck, pull, take (by force). Yes; two snatchings or catchings will happen. Just as there will be two Christ's. A false and the True. One first which is the snatching away by satan referenced to as that great falling away. He no doubt has a number of tools in his kit to pull this off for every religion taught at the hands of men to include atheism. Then those that wait and are kept from satans hour of temptation having recieved the wisdom of God in thier minds that they might remain and be gathered back to Christ in while in thier sporitiual bodies. They arent going to leave the earth ever, as when Christ finally returns He is not leaving either. |
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User ID: 62159782 United States11/28/2014 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is all good except to understand that the dead in Christ are already back with the Father. In fact all go back the moment their flesh dies and it happens instantaneously the instant one dies and the silver cord is parted. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24908410 The reason I mention this is the wicked angels may feign a resurrection of the dead which is well within their capability to do parading around like they are people that have long since passed on. One does not want to be second guessing events when satan is cast out of heaven posing as he is God which is why if you see people that are supposed to be dead come back and YOU are not yourself also in a spiritual body, then the entity everyone will be saying is God, will in truth be satan. No, this is very incorrect. No man has ever gone to heaven ... that is clearly in the Bible also. John 1:18 No one has seen Gold at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him. John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. 1 John 4:12 No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us. The Bible clearly states that when you die, you sleep in your grave until the Resurrection. Many examples of "rested with his fathers" (or as rendered in KJV, NAS, RSV - sleep with his fathers") .... 1 Kings 2:10, 11:21, 11:43, 14:20, 14:31, 15:8, 15:24, 16:6, 16:28, 22:40, 22:50 2 Kings 8:24, 10:35, 13:9, 13:13, 14:16, 14:22, 14:29, 15:7, 15:22, 15:38, 16:20, 20:21, 21:18, 24:6 2 Chronicles 9:31, 12:16, 14:1, 16:13, 21:1, 26:2, 26:23, 27:9, 28:27, 32:22, 33:20 Acts 13:36 For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption 1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, Ephesians 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light. 1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. Sometimes people do not understand simple things and make thing harder for other. What did Jesus himself say to the Thief on the cross, who call he Innocent man and knew who he was? He did not send him to hell or say you go to your grave, he said I will see you in paradise not years from that day either. He is another go reread it, Jesus arose but he did not come alone, many came back with him, they walk and talked with family. Do you think he went into hell or the place of rest to tell them to stay there, no, they were introduced to Jesus the Messiah, the one they were waiting for, from the time of the being. Do you think he said get back in your grave I get you up later? No, he had cleaned it out, he has the keys, they were resurrected surprise, Jesus Christ was the first, the other later, they came and they went on, so you can not over look what happened, or what was going on when he came back. Can you imagine Him telling them to go back to their grave, Or rest. This was the first resurrection, how people could not understand, the first resurrection that happen then is beyond men. How would the Saint of God, be calling to God in heaven, if they were not there. Or, the others mention with clean robes of white. The keys are Jesus Christ and our belief in Gods Word. Jesus went to make a home for us the day he left, If it were not so he would have not said, I believe him, he said it, that is the end of it. No more needs to be said, you have a home in Glory waiting. You body is the earthly holder of your soul or spirit the real you, the body is in a grave it goes to dust back to the earth. In all other things, God is the one who said, not I. Don't go hunting scriptures if you never list what Jesus did or what was happening the days of his coming back from the dead. All the people with him, yes they knew who he was, they waited. He was all through the Old testament. The Lord God is Good His Mercy Is Ever Lasting! Daughter out with my own way. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 61374616 United States11/28/2014 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Tropical Every generation (around 80 or so) since the fictitious Jesus was fictitiously crucified has spoken these same words. What has happened...NOTHING. Every generations swears up and down, that THEIR generation is the one and that THEY have the scriptural proof to back it up. My grandmother, bless her heart, thought we would be raptured back in the 60's and she thought she had scriptural proof. So I ask you, who is right then, if everyone says their generation is the one to be raptured? I'll tell you who is right...No Christian is. Christians believe that the rapture is something that originated with their religion. That's not true. It is Buddhist. Look it up before you blurt out incorrect garbage. What it means in reality is totally different then as interpreted by Christians. So, don't say I'm wrong just because you rely on the preacher. Please watch this video and learn something. OH NO! a Donatard You may not like the man, but you can not deny his research. Buddha was around a long time before hey sues, I mean Jesus. I can and do deny it...Your Buddha is false and phony crap. Buddha predates Christ by a thousand years. Buddha also has the same virgin birth story as Christ. Explain that please? BTW, Buddha never killed anyone like Jesus did. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2312772 United States11/28/2014 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way You are wrong about the the rapture being at the 7th trumpet. You forgot to read your bible. It is after the Great Tribulation has begun. Paul is quite specific about when it is occurs. The antichrist must first be announced. From biblegateway.com 2 Thessalonians 2The Great Apostasy Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. Your interpretation of the scripture is rudimentary and lacks spiritual understanding. Any understanding one has of what is written belongs to God, so to say one mans is rudimentary while elevating ones own is just down right silliness. The trump of God is the last which is also the 7th. And satan will elevate himself as God, not announce that he is satan. If you're looking for an evil satan well you might just get one in all the mind games that will be played and then bow your knee to satan when he steps in to save the day. The only time when satan will be fully revealed in the eyes of all mankind is when Christ comes like a thierf in the the night and rips the blinders off everyones eyes like a bandaid stuck to a scab. Why does Christ come like a thief, and why is it in the night? Because satan is of the darkness and the world will think Christ has already returned. Talk about having the rug pulled out from under someone by a thief in the night.. Chronologically, it is against scripture and what it says for the FLESH rapture to be at the 7th trumpet. It is prior. The problem with a lot of the people who deny the rapture which occurs after the 6th seal is opened is they are ignorant of Jewish tradition and its fulfillment by Jesus Christ. A lot of the ignorance is first not to understand what scripture actually says and then attribute the limited false (non rapture) belief to a Darby or Scofield interpretation which basically doesn't having any bearing on the truth. The separation of weeds from wheat have a specific meaning and is tied into the ancient Jewish grain harvest. Two days before Passover, the barley harvest began and a grain offering was made. After Passover, the counting of the Omer started. It is a 49 day period. It is a time of mourning. [link to en.wikipedia.org] HERE IT IS!!!! Christ speaks the words and even tells the workings of the opening of the 6th seal. From biblehub.com The Return of the Son of Man …29"But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30"And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. 31"And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other. At the end of the counting of the Omer is "Shavuot" which is when Moses went up the mountain to receive the Law. Two days later the wheat harvest ended. The whole process was 53 days. The worthy Lamb, Jesus Christ, is the only one who could end sacrifice and fulfill the Law. He died and was resurrected on the 3rd day. He spent 40 days on earth and ascended into Heaven. 10 Days later the Holy Spirit came upon the apostles in the upper room and the church was started in seed. LOOK at when it was done. The same day the traditional Jewish wheat harvest ended. The harvest is THE CHURCH, THE BRIDE in flesh after the 6th seal is opened just like he says in the above passage. The naysayers and doubters in what the scripture actually says need to quit peddling their scriptural and spiritual ignorance. Honey satan sets up in Jerusalem elevating himself above God at the 6th seal, 6th trump, and 6th vial. If youre going to look for a snatching away at the 6th trump well the destroyer sure will have one ready for you. Revelation 6:12 "And I behold when He had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood." Revelation 6:13 "And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as the fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind." 666.. so simple a child can understand it; Revelation 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. Revelation 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. Did you happen to know right about now a third part if the world calls themselves Christian.. and most of those believe in some sort of pre or mid tribulation rapture? Revelation 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. Revelation 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. Revelation 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. If you think satan is the creator of the day of the Lord at the opening of the 6th seal your lack of understanding of what scripture says is beyond belief. Read what it says by those who are in fear. From biblehub.com Revelation 6:15Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide usf from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17For the great day of theirg wrath has come, and who can withstand it?” Does this sound like the works of satan or the beginning of the end of his lies? As far as satan is concerned, he does not have a throne in Jerusalem. Read what scripture actually says. From biblehub.com Revelation 2To the Church in Pergamum 12“To the angel of the church in Pergamum write: These are the words of him who has the sharp, double-edged sword. 13I know where you live—where Satan has his throne. Yet you remain true to my name. You did not renounce your faith in me, not even in the days of Antipas, my faithful witness, who was put to death in your city—where Satan lives. If you didn't understand it the first time, the passage restates satan's residence at the end. PERGAMUM!!!!!! The antichrist, his son, apollyon (apollo) does this. The great tribulation from 2Thessalonians 2 starts, and the antichrist reigns as the gates of hell prevail on earth. From biblehub.com Revelation 13:5The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty two months. This is done in Jerusalem during the abomination of desolation. The spirit of sodom and egypt prevail. If a 3rd of the Christian world believe in a mid tribulation rapture then good for them. THEY ARE CORRECT, and YOU ARE WRONG!!!! I suppose you believe in Christmas? It is instituted by a Roman Catholic hierarchy that put Christian events over pagan holidays. This is nimrod's birthday who is the first king of the mystery babylon. He was deified at as a sun god and the Romans celebrated his birthday on 25 Dec as sol invictus which is sun worship day. The 8th king of the mystery babylon is the antichrist known as apollyon (apollo) son of zeus and the false sungod. Why do you think the inhabitants give gifts to celebrate the death of the two witnesses? It is on XMAS!!! The "X" is nimrod's symbol as well. Here read this and have the scales removed from your eyes. [link to www.whale.to] There is a reason the true Sabbath was moved to SUNday as well. The evergreens you use in your home are forbidden by God. Read this. God said it. From biblegateway.com Jeremiah 10God and Idols 10 Hear what the Lord says to you, people of Israel. 2 This is what the Lord says: “Do not learn the ways of the nations or be terrified by signs in the heavens, though the nations are terrified by them. 3 For the practices of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel. 4 They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter. Even Easter (Ishtar) has pagan roots and the Easter egg is tied to semiramis, the wife of nimrod who deified him as a sun god at his death. Here you go! [link to aletheia.consultronix.com] The 666 you talk about is really for you to understand while you finish reading Revelation and take heed of the passage that instructs you to "come out of her" the mystery babylon that is. The reason why time is shortened and FLESH saved is that the current time and geographical system is of bayblonian origin. 60 seconds = 1 minute. 60 minutes = 1 hour. 24 hours = 1 day. All components of the day reduce to 6 in simple numerology and collectively make "666" which is why the days are shortened. The geographical coordinate system is the same 60 second = 1 minute and 60 minutes = 1 degree. From wikipedia's entry on "Babylonia" under mathematics. Quote -The Babylonian system of mathematics was sexagesimal, or a base 60 numeral system (see: Babylonian numerals). From this we derive the modern day usage of 60 seconds in a minute, 60 minutes in an hour, and 360 (60 x 6) degrees in a circle. The Babylonians were able to make great advances in mathematics for two reasons. First, the number 60 has many divisors (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, and 30), making calculations easier. - end of quote. Even the "X" of nimrod has implications with the them of lawlessness and the coming son of perdition. X is the 24th letter in the alphabet. 2 + 4 = 6. Pornography is XXX or 666. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28756018 United States11/28/2014 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Buddha predates Christ by a thousand years. Buddha also has the same virgin birth story as Christ. Explain that please? BTW, Buddha never killed anyone like Jesus did. of course "he" didn't, because "he" never existed....face it your Buddha is pure bunk. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 49789413 Philippines11/28/2014 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Before the tribulation there will be 2300 days of temple sacrifices. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49789413 Thread: Passover 2015 and the 2028 Jubilee year It is during these 2300 days that apostle John will prophesy again: 9 So I went to the angel and asked him to give me the little scroll. He said to me, “Take it and eat it. It will turn your stomach sour, but ‘in your mouth it will be as sweet as honey.’” 10 I took the little scroll from the angel’s hand and ate it. It tasted as sweet as honey in my mouth, but when I had eaten it, my stomach turned sour. 11 Then I was told, “You must prophesy again about many peoples, nations, languages and kings.” Quoting: Revelation 10I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. 2 But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. 3 And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.” Quoting: Revelation 11Only after the 2300 days of temple sacrifices will the antichrist and the 2 witnesses appear. After the antichrist desecrates the temple and stops the temple sacrifices (which will last for 2300 days), the 2 witnesses will start their 1260 days of prophesying. After the 2 witnesses finish their 1260 days prophesying, the antichrist will kill the 2 witnesses, and after 3 1/2 days, the antichrist will also trample on the holy city for another 42 months. So true Christians should be waiting for the return of apostle John, because remember, baptism of the Holy Spirit only happens in the presence of one of Christ's apostles. And the reappearance of apostle John will usher in the second Pentecost! 4 When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to Samaria. 15 When they arrived, they prayed for the new believers there that they might receive the Holy Spirit, 16 because the Holy Spirit had not yet come on any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit. Quoting: Acts 8 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24908410 United States11/28/2014 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You may not like the man, but you can not deny his research. Buddha was around a long time before hey sues, I mean Jesus. I can and do deny it...Your Buddha is false and phony crap. Buddha predates Christ by a thousand years. Buddha also has the same virgin birth story as Christ. Explain that please? BTW, Buddha never killed anyone like Jesus did. satan predated buddah; in fact in spirit we all predated flesh. Go looking for the star of moloch (hexegram) on some of the most ancient shines and temples built by men across the entire world and you will find it. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 64808544  United Kingdom11/28/2014 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been studying about the rapture for 40 years now. And I am sure that there is a mid-tribulation rapture coming soon!! Quoting: moses787   Ok been reading a bit more of the thread and It's getting a bit strange. Seems like the only people who believe in this "Rapture" are American, so do only Americans get raptured? What about the rest of Christianity? Not sure I'd like to join the US of Heaven. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10365738 United States11/28/2014 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus said His return would be just like that day, the righeous removed before wrath: Quoting: javierruizleon The "righteous"? Who are these innocent "righteous"? No one is without sin. You are so ignorant, arrogant and ego driven, you think because you call yourself a Christian that somehow that makes you "righteous". You are a fool. . |
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User ID: 51691602 United States11/28/2014 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Heed my words. Quoting: NewtonsOwn Yet more proof that the pre-tribulation rapture is false doctrine, as Hollywood is promoting it. Jesus returns at the last (7th) trumpet, not before. That's when the rapture takes place, and the dead in Christ arise and those few who remain alive are changed into their spiritual form. We never leave the earth. Paul's words were in colloquial Greek and when he says "clouds" he is quoting the book of Enoch, as Jude did, and referencing Jesus returning with great "clouds" of angels,or a great multitude of angels. The pre-tribulation rapture is false doctrine, authored by Jesuits who's goal was to set people up for the false rapture deception described by Jesus himself in Luke 17, 20-37. The ones that are taken first are taken to die. In The Book of Matthew, the parable of the wheat and the tares, the tares are bundled up and then harvested first (the unbelievers), then the wheat (the believers) are gathered up. Do not believe the false doctrine in the "left behind" series. Its a lie and a massive deception. Just remember, if anything or anyone tries to "rapture" You and you have not seen the dead in Christ rise first and you are not in your spiritual form, it is false and a deception. There will be NO rapture. ^ THIS "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words. And if you know the words that the world is made of, you can make of it whatever you wish." ~ Terence McKenna |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 61362725 United States11/28/2014 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Heed my words. Quoting: NewtonsOwn Yet more proof that the pre-tribulation rapture is false doctrine, as Hollywood is promoting it. Jesus returns at the last (7th) trumpet, not before. That's when the rapture takes place, and the dead in Christ arise and those few who remain alive are changed into their spiritual form. We never leave the earth. Paul's words were in colloquial Greek and when he says "clouds" he is quoting the book of Enoch, as Jude did, and referencing Jesus returning with great "clouds" of angels,or a great multitude of angels. The pre-tribulation rapture is false doctrine, authored by Jesuits who's goal was to set people up for the false rapture deception described by Jesus himself in Luke 17, 20-37. The ones that are taken first are taken to die. In The Book of Matthew, the parable of the wheat and the tares, the tares are bundled up and then harvested first (the unbelievers), then the wheat (the believers) are gathered up. Do not believe the false doctrine in the "left behind" series. Its a lie and a massive deception. Just remember, if anything or anyone tries to "rapture" You and you have not seen the dead in Christ rise first and you are not in your spiritual form, it is false and a deception. You are wrong about the the rapture being at the 7th trumpet. You forgot to read your bible. It is after the Great Tribulation has begun. Paul is quite specific about when it is occurs. The antichrist must first be announced. From biblegateway.com 2 Thessalonians 2The Great Apostasy Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. Your interpretation of the scripture is rudimentary and lacks spiritual understanding. There we go! Here is how i understand it. Read a little farther into 2Thess:2. You will realize that... There is the tribulation. There is The Tribulation. Each is 3.5 years. After the first one, the man of perdition, AKA The Antichrist, is revealed. At that point the HolySpirit, AKA The Comforter, is taken out of the way. Up until then the AC has been impeded by the HS. Jesus told us when he left he would send The Comforter and that he would never leave any believer. So, how would the "Impedance" be taken out of the way? He exists in us! Jesus said the HS would never leave us. I'll let you sheeple figure out the rest since continuing to spoon feed you might make your brains go soft(er). |
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User ID: 51691602 United States11/28/2014 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every generation (around 80 or so) since the fictitious Jesus was fictitiously crucified has spoken these same words. What has happened...NOTHING. Every generations swears up and down, that THEIR generation is the one and that THEY have the scriptural proof to back it up. My grandmother, bless her heart, thought we would be raptured back in the 60's and she thought she had scriptural proof. So I ask you, who is right then, if everyone says their generation is the one to be raptured? I'll tell you who is right...No Christian is. Christians believe that the rapture is something that originated with their religion. That's not true. It is Buddhist. Look it up before you blurt out incorrect garbage. What it means in reality is totally different then as interpreted by Christians. So, don't say I'm wrong just because you rely on the preacher. Please watch this video and learn something. complete yes you are wrong Tropical and just talking out your as you always do. your youtube vid is garbage Your man made book is garbage... "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words. And if you know the words that the world is made of, you can make of it whatever you wish." ~ Terence McKenna |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 61374616 United States11/28/2014 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK then, if there is going to be a rapture, who will take care of the millions of babies who will be left behind by their Christian mothers? Surely your God should have had a plan for this? After all, the baby will not make it into the kingdom of heaven, because he/she did not choose Jesus, right? Eternal life is a free gift according to your Jesus, but he said, it HAS to be accepted. A baby can not accept the gift. There are NO verses in the bible that say babies are automatically taken to heaven, or automatically make it into the kingdom. Not a very good plan if I do say so. Anyone got any answers? And you think I don't know the bible LOL! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24908410 United States11/28/2014 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24908410 Any understanding one has of what is written belongs to God, so to say one mans is rudimentary while elevating ones own is just down right silliness. The trump of God is the last which is also the 7th. And satan will elevate himself as God, not announce that he is satan. If you're looking for an evil satan well you might just get one in all the mind games that will be played and then bow your knee to satan when he steps in to save the day. The only time when satan will be fully revealed in the eyes of all mankind is when Christ comes like a thierf in the the night and rips the blinders off everyones eyes like a bandaid stuck to a scab. Why does Christ come like a thief, and why is it in the night? Because satan is of the darkness and the world will think Christ has already returned. Talk about having the rug pulled out from under someone by a thief in the night.. Chronologically, it is against scripture and what it says for the FLESH rapture to be at the 7th trumpet. It is prior. The problem with a lot of the people who deny the rapture which occurs after the 6th seal is opened is they are ignorant of Jewish tradition and its fulfillment by Jesus Christ. A lot of the ignorance is first not to understand what scripture actually says and then attribute the limited false (non rapture) belief to a Darby or Scofield interpretation which basically doesn't having any bearing on the truth. The separation of weeds from wheat have a specific meaning and is tied into the ancient Jewish grain harvest. Two days before Passover, the barley harvest began and a grain offering was made. After Passover, the counting of the Omer started. It is a 49 day period. It is a time of mourning. [link to en.wikipedia.org] HERE IT IS!!!! Christ speaks the words and even tells the workings of the opening of the 6th seal. From biblehub.com The Return of the Son of Man …29"But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30"And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. 31"And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other. At the end of the counting of the Omer is "Shavuot" which is when Moses went up the mountain to receive the Law. Two days later the wheat harvest ended. The whole process was 53 days. The worthy Lamb, Jesus Christ, is the only one who could end sacrifice and fulfill the Law. He died and was resurrected on the 3rd day. He spent 40 days on earth and ascended into Heaven. 10 Days later the Holy Spirit came upon the apostles in the upper room and the church was started in seed. LOOK at when it was done. The same day the traditional Jewish wheat harvest ended. The harvest is THE CHURCH, THE BRIDE in flesh after the 6th seal is opened just like he says in the above passage. The naysayers and doubters in what the scripture actually says need to quit peddling their scriptural and spiritual ignorance. Honey satan sets up in Jerusalem elevating himself above God at the 6th seal, 6th trump, and 6th vial. If youre going to look for a snatching away at the 6th trump well the destroyer sure will have one ready for you. Revelation 6:12 "And I behold when He had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood." Revelation 6:13 "And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as the fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind." 666.. so simple a child can understand it; Revelation 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. Revelation 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. Did you happen to know right about now a third part if the world calls themselves Christian.. and most of those believe in some sort of pre or mid tribulation rapture? Revelation 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. Revelation 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. Revelation 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. If you think satan is the creator of the day of the Lord at the opening of the 6th seal your lack of understanding of what scripture says is beyond belief. Read what it says by those who are in fear. From biblehub.com Revelation 6:15Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide usf from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17For the great day of theirg wrath has come, and who can withstand it?” Does this sound like the works of satan or the beginning of the end of his lies? As far as satan is concerned, he does not have a throne in Jerusalem. Read what scripture actually says. From biblehub.com Revelation 2To the Church in Pergamum 12“To the angel of the church in Pergamum write: These are the words of him who has the sharp, double-edged sword. 13I know where you live—where Satan has his throne. Yet you remain true to my name. You did not renounce your faith in me, not even in the days of Antipas, my faithful witness, who was put to death in your city—where Satan lives. If you didn't understand it the first time, the passage restates satan's residence at the end. PERGAMUM!!!!!! The antichrist, his son, apollyon (apollo) does this. The great tribulation from 2Thessalonians 2 starts, and the antichrist reigns as the gates of hell prevail on earth. From biblehub.com Revelation 13:5The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty two months. This is done in Jerusalem during the abomination of desolation. The spirt of sodom and egypt prevail. If a 3rd of the Christian world believe in a mid tribulation rapture then good for them. THEY ARE CORRECT, and YOU ARE WRONG!!!! I suppose you believe in Christmas? It is instituted by a Roman Catholic hierarchy that put Christian events over pagan holidays. This is nimrod's birthday who is the first king of the mystery babylon. He was deified at as a sun god and the Romans celebrated his birthday on 25 Dec as sol invictus which is sun worship day. The 8th king of the mystery babylon is the antichrist known as apollyon (apollo) son of zeus and the false sungod. Why do you think the inhabitants give gifts to celebrate the death of the two witnesses? It is on XMAS!!! That is nimrod's symbol as well. Here read this and have the scales removed from your eyes. [link to www.whale.to] There is a reason the true Sabbath was moved to SUNday as well. The evergreens you use in your home are forbidden by God. Read this. God said it. From biblegateway.com Jeremiah 10God and Idols 10 Hear what the Lord says to you, people of Israel. 2 This is what the Lord says: “Do not learn the ways of the nations or be terrified by signs in the heavens, though the nations are terrified by them. 3 For the practices of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel. 4 They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter. Even Easter (Ishtar) has pagan roots and the Easter egg is tied to semiramis, the wife of nimrod who deified him as a sun god at his death. Here you go! [link to aletheia.consultronix.com] The 666 you talk about is really for you to understand while you finish reading Revelation and take heed of the passage that instructs you to "come out of her" the mystery babylon that is. The reason why time is shortened and FLESH saved is that the current time and geographical system is of bayblonian origin. 60 seconds = 1 minute. 60 minutes = 1 hour. 24 hours = 1 day. All components of the day reduce to 6 in simple numerology and collectively make "666" which is why the days are shortened. The geographical coordinate system is the same 60 second = 1 minute and 60 minutes = 1 degree. From wikipedia's entry on "Babylonia" under mathematics. Quote -The Babylonian system of mathematics was sexagesimal, or a base 60 numeral system (see: Babylonian numerals). From this we derive the modern day usage of 60 seconds in a minute, 60 minutes in an hour, and 360 (60 x 6) degrees in a circle. The Babylonians were able to make great advances in mathematics for two reasons. First, the number 60 has many divisors (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, and 30), making calculations easier. - end of quote. Even the "X" of nimrod has implications with the them of lawlessness and the coming son of perdition. X is the 24th letter in the alphabet. 2 + 4 = 6. Pornography is XXX or 666. Christ's birth date you might find by following the course of Abijah. If you weren't taught how to correctly find the date. It is there for your research. Rev 6 culminates and even includes those things that happen at the 7th trump. But one would possibly need other things unsealed for them to see it so I understand if it does not make sense for you at this time.. The fact remains that satan actually is cast out sometime later in the time frame of the 5th seal, trump, vial which is about to happen quite soon. And then he steps out and exhaults himself in Jerusalem as if he were above God.. again at the sounding of 6th seal/trump, and vial. That is to say this any moment rapture by satan quite literally could happen at any moment. Those of us that hold the truth know that Christ cant return at any moment until all the other things happen just as they are written. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28756018 United States11/28/2014 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK then, if there is going to be a rapture, who will take care of the millions of babies who will be left behind by their Christian mothers? Surely your God should have had a plan for this? After all, the baby will not make it into the kingdom of heaven, because he/she did not choose Jesus, right. Eternal life is a free gift according to your Jesus, but he said, it HAS to be accepted. A baby can not accept the gift. There are NO verses in the bible that say babies are automatically taken to heaven, or automatically make it into the kingdom. Not a very good plan if I do say so. Anyone got any answers? And you think I don't know the bible LOL! Quoting: Tropical what a stupid post.....typical of you Tropical. Of course babies and those not yet reached the age of accountability would be raptured as well... has nothing to do with accepting the gift for babies. nor for those born with mental defecits. You've had your head up your buddah's for far too long. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 61374616 United States11/28/2014 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK then, if there is going to be a rapture, who will take care of the millions of babies who will be left behind by their Christian mothers? Surely your God should have had a plan for this? After all, the baby will not make it into the kingdom of heaven, because he/she did not choose Jesus, right. Eternal life is a free gift according to your Jesus, but he said, it HAS to be accepted. A baby can not accept the gift. There are NO verses in the bible that say babies are automatically taken to heaven, or automatically make it into the kingdom. Not a very good plan if I do say so. Anyone got any answers? And you think I don't know the bible LOL! Quoting: Tropical what a stupid post.....typical of you Tropical. Of course babies and those not yet reached the age of accountability would be raptured as well... has nothing to do with accepting the gift for babies. nor for those born with mental defecits. You've had your head up your buddah's for far too long.You are dead wrong. Your Jesus and millions of preachers have stated that you HAVE to invite Jesus into your heart or he can't come in. He does not FORCE himself on you. There is not one single scripture that supports what you say about automatic, but there are scriptures to support what I am telling you. As usual, you speak before researching. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 61362725 United States11/28/2014 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been studying about the rapture for 40 years now. And I am sure that there is a mid-tribulation rapture coming soon!! Quoting: moses787 Oh, you did it now! You spilled the beans! The truth is out and you will get hammered for it. But, congratulations. Im ten years behind you and as far as i can tell you are absolutely correct. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 61374616 United States11/28/2014 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK then, if there is going to be a rapture, who will take care of the millions of babies who will be left behind by their Christian mothers? Surely your God should have had a plan for this? After all, the baby will not make it into the kingdom of heaven, because he/she did not choose Jesus, right. Eternal life is a free gift according to your Jesus, but he said, it HAS to be accepted. A baby can not accept the gift. There are NO verses in the bible that say babies are automatically taken to heaven, or automatically make it into the kingdom. Not a very good plan if I do say so. Anyone got any answers? And you think I don't know the bible LOL! Quoting: Tropical what a stupid post.....typical of you Tropical. Of course babies and those not yet reached the age of accountability would be raptured as well... has nothing to do with accepting the gift for babies. nor for those born with mental defecits. You've had your head up your buddah's for far too long.The age of accountability was in the Old Testament. Are you going to use the Old Testament against me? If so, I thought every time I tried to use it, you all said, that was the old testament, we have Jesus now. SO, you can't use the old testament. |
