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Gotta love a good religious war. Like a bunch of bickering 10yr olds .... I'm right, no I'm right, no I'm right.

You backwards religitards can't even figure out that your own in-fighting pushes people away from your religion. You say we all should believe like you, but the lot of you can't even figure out what to believe.
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Gotta love a good religious war. Like a bunch of bickering 10yr olds .... I'm right, no I'm right, no I'm right.

You backwards religitards can't even figure out that your own in-fighting pushes people away from your religion. You say we all should believe like you, but the lot of you can't even figure out what to believe.
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Open your heart to God and find your answers.
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10 Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it with untempered morter:

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No peace for those who are not watching and believing his promise.
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Even with your own words you speak truth but you write them from the perception of having been taught deception.

The "promise" of a rapture is the prophetical false peace the Lord speaks of in Ezekiel 13. If you look further down that chapters He even says..



19 And will ye pollute me among my people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, to slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live, by your lying to my people that hear your lies?

20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.

21 Your kerchiefs also will I tear, and deliver my people out of your hand, and they shall be no more in your hand to be hunted; and ye shall know that I am the Lord.


What God is speaking of here are the traditions of men and false doctrines that the churches cover His outstretched saving hands with that will leave those deceived by them marked as spiritually dead having bowed their knee satan thinking he was God. Even in their ignorance.

These are the same people that Matthew 7:22-23 speak too unfortunately. It is quite sad really when it doesn't have to be that way as Christ has provided all things one might need to be kept upright against the fiery darts (lies) of satan.

Christ likens satans tribulation to a flood in many places. It will be a flood of lies, quite literally.
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Gotta love a good religious war. Like a bunch of bickering 10yr olds .... I'm right, no I'm right, no I'm right.

You backwards religitards can't even figure out that your own in-fighting pushes people away from your religion. You say we all should believe like you, but the lot of you can't even figure out what to believe.
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Open your heart to God and find your answers.
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Literary comprehension must not be your best asset, considering I did not propose a question.

God (whatever the entity really is) is in me, religion is not, nor ever will be again, you can keep the brainwashing, I was fortunate enough to escape it after 20yrs.
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Considering we are already through the tribulation, this entire thread is a mute point.
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We are right in the middle of it according to charts I've seen.
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Isaiah 29:13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
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Christ sewn in the the heart yet the sould was lost... for a time. They teach the opposite of this in most churches referencing the election of God. Not all are of the elect, most are free will these days.

Matthew 13:19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

Christ sewn in the heart.. yet their crown and inheritance was subsequently lost by way of their ignorance of the truth.
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10 Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it with untempered morter:

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No peace for those who are not watching and believing his promise.
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Even with your own words you speak truth but you write them from the perception of having been taught deception.

The "promise" of a rapture is the prophetical false peace the Lord speaks of in Ezekiel 13. If you look further down that chapters He even says..



19 And will ye pollute me among my people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, to slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live, by your lying to my people that hear your lies?

20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.

21 Your kerchiefs also will I tear, and deliver my people out of your hand, and they shall be no more in your hand to be hunted; and ye shall know that I am the Lord.


What God is speaking of here are the traditions of men and false doctrines that the churches cover His outstretched saving hands with that will leave those deceived by them marked as spiritually dead having bowed their knee satan thinking he was God. Even in their ignorance.

These are the same people that Matthew 7:22-23 speak too unfortunately. It is quite sad really when it doesn't have to be that way as Christ has provided all things one might need to be kept upright against the fiery darts (lies) of satan.

Christ likens satans tribulation to a flood in many places. It will be a flood of lies, quite literally.
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Revelation 16:15

15 “Keep watch! I come unannounced, like a thief. You’re blessed if, awake and dressed, you’re ready for me. Too bad if you’re found running through the streets, naked and ashamed.”
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Gotta love a good religious war. Like a bunch of bickering 10yr olds .... I'm right, no I'm right, no I'm right.

You backwards religitards can't even figure out that your own in-fighting pushes people away from your religion. You say we all should believe like you, but the lot of you can't even figure out what to believe.
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Open your heart to God and find your answers.
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Literary comprehension must not be your best asset, considering I did not propose a question.

God (whatever the entity really is) is in me, religion is not, nor ever will be again, you can keep the brainwashing, I was fortunate enough to escape it after 20yrs.
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It is called the Holy Spirit if you do not recognize that it is not in you.

You cannot save yourself unless you repent, born-again as new creation in Christ
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just don't quit or get the mark which is a shot and it won't matter...
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Oh God, not the mark!! I remember when I was a kid. Christians said the Birth certificate was the mark, then the SSN, then the drivers lic, then the bar code. Now this generation seems to think it is the RFID implants. What will you use when this one fails LOL! I told the Christians back when they first started panicking about RFID implants that it was nothing to worry about. Hell, they all started end of the world garbage when 911 happened. They were running around like chickens with their heads cut off and I was laughing my ass off.

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Chronologically, it is against scripture and what it says for the FLESH rapture to be at the 7th trumpet. It is prior. The problem with a lot of the people who deny the rapture which occurs after the 6th seal is opened is they are ignorant of Jewish tradition and its fulfillment by Jesus Christ.

A lot of the ignorance is first not to understand what scripture actually says and then attribute the limited false (non rapture) belief to a Darby or Scofield interpretation which basically doesn't having any bearing on the truth.

The separation of weeds from wheat have a specific meaning and is tied into the ancient Jewish grain harvest. Two days before Passover, the barley harvest began and a grain offering was made. After Passover, the counting of the Omer started. It is a 49 day period. It is a time of mourning. [link to en.wikipedia.org]

HERE IT IS!!!! Christ speaks the words and even tells the workings of the opening of the 6th seal. From biblehub.com The Return of the Son of Man
…29"But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30"And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. 31"And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

At the end of the counting of the Omer is "Shavuot" which is when Moses went up the mountain to receive the Law. Two days later the wheat harvest ended. The whole process was 53 days. The worthy Lamb, Jesus Christ, is the only one who could end sacrifice and fulfill the Law. He died and was resurrected on the 3rd day. He spent 40 days on earth and ascended into Heaven. 10 Days later the Holy Spirit came upon the apostles in the upper room and the church was started in seed. LOOK at when it was done. The same day the traditional Jewish wheat harvest ended. The harvest is THE CHURCH, THE BRIDE in flesh after the 6th seal is opened just like he says in the above passage.

The naysayers and doubters in what the scripture actually says need to quit peddling their scriptural and spiritual ignorance.
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Honey satan sets up in Jerusalem elevating himself above God at the 6th seal, 6th trump, and 6th vial. If youre going to look for a snatching away at the 6th trump well the destroyer sure will have one ready for you.



Revelation 6:12 "And I behold when He had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood."
Revelation 6:13 "And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as the fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind."

666.. so simple a child can understand it;


Revelation 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
Revelation 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

Did you happen to know right about now a third part if the world calls themselves Christian.. and most of those believe in some sort of pre or mid tribulation rapture?


Revelation 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
Revelation 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
Revelation 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
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If you think satan is the creator of the day of the Lord at the opening of the 6th seal your lack of understanding of what scripture says is beyond belief. Read what it says by those who are in fear. From biblehub.com Revelation 6:15Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide usf from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17For the great day of theirg wrath has come, and who can withstand it?” Does this sound like the works of satan or the beginning of the end of his lies?

As far as satan is concerned, he does not have a throne in Jerusalem. Read what scripture actually says. From biblehub.com Revelation 2To the Church in Pergamum
12“To the angel of the church in Pergamum write:
These are the words of him who has the sharp, double-edged sword. 13I know where you live—where Satan has his throne. Yet you remain true to my name. You did not renounce your faith in me, not even in the days of Antipas, my faithful witness, who was put to death in your city—where Satan lives. If you didn't understand it the first time, the passage restates satan's residence at the end. PERGAMUM!!!!!!

The antichrist, his son, apollyon (apollo) does this. The great tribulation from 2Thessalonians 2 starts, and the antichrist reigns as the gates of hell prevail on earth. From biblehub.com Revelation 13:5The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty two months.
This is done in Jerusalem during the abomination of desolation. The spirt of sodom and egypt prevail.

If a 3rd of the Christian world believe in a mid tribulation rapture then good for them. THEY ARE CORRECT, and YOU ARE WRONG!!!! I suppose you believe in Christmas? It is instituted by a Roman Catholic hierarchy that put Christian events over pagan holidays. This is nimrod's birthday who is the first king of the mystery babylon. He was deified at as a sun god and the Romans celebrated his birthday on 25 Dec as sol invictus which is sun worship day. The 8th king of the mystery babylon is the antichrist known as apollyon (apollo) son of zeus and the false sungod. Why do you think the inhabitants give gifts to celebrate the death of the two witnesses? It is on XMAS!!! That is nimrod's symbol as well. Here read this and have the scales removed from your eyes. [link to www.whale.to]

There is a reason the true Sabbath was moved to SUNday as well. The evergreens you use in your home are forbidden by God. Read this. God said it. From biblegateway.com Jeremiah 10God and Idols
10 Hear what the Lord says to you, people of Israel. 2 This is what the Lord says:
“Do not learn the ways of the nations
or be terrified by signs in the heavens,
though the nations are terrified by them.
3 For the practices of the peoples are worthless;
they cut a tree out of the forest,
and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.
4 They adorn it with silver and gold;
they fasten it with hammer and nails
so it will not totter.

Even Easter (Ishtar) has pagan roots and the Easter egg is tied to semiramis, the wife of nimrod who deified him as a sun god at his death. Here you go! [link to aletheia.consultronix.com]

The 666 you talk about is really for you to understand while you finish reading Revelation and take heed of the passage that instructs you to "come out of her" the mystery babylon that is.

The reason why time is shortened and FLESH saved is that the current time and geographical system is of bayblonian origin. 60 seconds = 1 minute. 60 minutes = 1 hour. 24 hours = 1 day. All components of the day reduce to 6 in simple numerology and collectively make "666" which is why the days are shortened. The geographical coordinate system is the same 60 second = 1 minute and 60 minutes = 1 degree. From wikipedia's entry on "Babylonia" under mathematics. Quote -The Babylonian system of mathematics was sexagesimal, or a base 60 numeral system (see: Babylonian numerals). From this we derive the modern day usage of 60 seconds in a minute, 60 minutes in an hour, and 360 (60 x 6) degrees in a circle. The Babylonians were able to make great advances in mathematics for two reasons. First, the number 60 has many divisors (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, and 30), making calculations easier. - end of quote.

Even the "X" of nimrod has implications with the them of lawlessness and the coming son of perdition. X is the 24th letter in the alphabet. 2 + 4 = 6. Pornography is XXX or 666.
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Christ's birth date you might find by following the course of Abijah. If you weren't taught how to correctly find the date. It is there for your research.

Rev 6 culminates and even includes those things that happen at the 7th trump. But one would possibly need other things unsealed for them to see it so I understand if it does not make sense for you at this time..

The fact remains that satan actually is cast out sometime later in the time frame of the 5th seal, trump, vial which is about to happen quite soon. And then he steps out and exhaults himself in Jerusalem as if he were above God.. again at the sounding of 6th seal/trump, and vial. That is to say this any moment rapture by satan quite literally could happen at any moment.

Those of us that hold the truth know that Christ cant return at any moment until all the other things happen just as they are written.
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The only truth is Jesus Christ. The course of Abijah is incorrect in calculating Christ' birth. The fact remains that the rapture is a flesh event. The church, the harvest of what has grown from the seeds of the first Holy Pentecost is taken out. It is a different event from the 7th trumpet.

Look to what should be 00AD at 01 Tishrei for his birth. Christ foretold the destruction of the 2nd Temple at the Olivet Discourse. It happened in 70AD. God judged Israel in 70 year increments of babylonian captivity. 1948 to 2018 is 70 years. Christ said the "The first shall be last and the last shall be first."

70 years is important. The biblical prophecy is executed with precision. Both the first and second temples were destroyed on the ninth of Av. The Hebrew words are Tisha B'Av. In Jewish gematria it equals "911". [link to www.gematrix.org] The babylonians used the moon for the calendar as well as the Jews. You can attribute much of that to the darkness taken by the Jews in the production of the talmud in babylonian occupation. The word for the moon in babylonian (Akkadian) is Su'en or SIN!!!!. The destruction of the 2nd temple when converted to gregorian time is 04 Aug 70 AD. It is Obama's birthday. It is the 216th day of the year. 6x6x6 is 216. 216 is used by the baylonians as a source code that goes to explanations of the cosmos.
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just don't quit or get the mark which is a shot and it won't matter...
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Oh God, not the mark!! I remember when I was a kid. Christians said the Birth certificate was the mark, then the SSN, then the drivers lic, then the bar code. Now this generation seems to think it is the RFID implants. What will you use when this one fails LOL! I told the Christians back when they first started panicking about RFID implants that it was nothing to worry about. Hell, they all started end of the world garbage when 911 happened. They were running around like chickens with their heads cut off and I was laughing my ass off.

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Why, because it's true? Your probably only old enough to wipe the snot off your nose with your sleeve.
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Revelation 16:15

15 “Keep watch! I come unannounced, like a thief. You’re blessed if, awake and dressed, you’re ready for me. Too bad if you’re found running through the streets, naked and ashamed.”
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Christ coming will be exactly like a thief in the night to those that think that He has already arrived.. and wed themselves off to the false christ.

Think of that; a bride who married the 1st supernatural entity that drops out of heaven. Cozy and warm asleep in his bed, when the True Christ enters in the darkness of that time and turns on the Light!

Again.. and it doesn't have to be this way for any that truly seek. Yet unfortunately many have this very hard and even shameful lesson to learn.


Matthew 7

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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Revelation 16:15

15 “Keep watch! I come unannounced, like a thief. You’re blessed if, awake and dressed, you’re ready for me. Too bad if you’re found running through the streets, naked and ashamed.”
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Christ coming will be exactly like a thief in the night to those that think that He has already arrived.. and wed themselves off to the false christ.

Think of that; a bride who married the 1st supernatural entity that drops out of heaven. Cozy and warm asleep in his bed, when the True Christ enters in the darkness of that time and turns on the Light!

Again.. and it doesn't have to be this way for any that truly seek. Yet unfortunately many have this very hard and even shameful lesson to learn.


Matthew 7

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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Now please read the following with eyes to see what God would have you know! Read it slow, read it over, and over and over if you have to with reverence that you might think!

Christ wants a virgin bride.. that's you and I.

Luke 23:29 For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck.
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just don't quit or get the mark which is a shot and it won't matter...
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Oh God, not the mark!! I remember when I was a kid. Christians said the Birth certificate was the mark, then the SSN, then the drivers lic, then the bar code. Now this generation seems to think it is the RFID implants. What will you use when this one fails LOL! I told the Christians back when they first started panicking about RFID implants that it was nothing to worry about. Hell, they all started end of the world garbage when 911 happened. They were running around like chickens with their heads cut off and I was laughing my ass off.

yoda
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Why, because it's true? Your probably only old enough to wipe the snot off your nose with your sleeve.
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no because as usual, your full of yourself and full of bsmeter2
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Gotta love a good religious war. Like a bunch of bickering 10yr olds .... I'm right, no I'm right, no I'm right.

You backwards religitards can't even figure out that your own in-fighting pushes people away from your religion. You say we all should believe like you, but the lot of you can't even figure out what to believe.
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Open your heart to God and find your answers.
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Literary comprehension must not be your best asset, considering I did not propose a question.

God (whatever the entity really is) is in me, religion is not, nor ever will be again, you can keep the brainwashing, I was fortunate enough to escape it after 20yrs.
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It is called the Holy Spirit if you do not recognize that it is not in you.

You cannot save yourself unless you repent, born-again as new creation in Christ
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Oh God, not the mark!! I remember when I was a kid. Christians said the Birth certificate was the mark, then the SSN, then the drivers lic, then the bar code. Now this generation seems to think it is the RFID implants. What will you use when this one fails LOL! I told the Christians back when they first started panicking about RFID implants that it was nothing to worry about. Hell, they all started end of the world garbage when 911 happened. They were running around like chickens with their heads cut off and I was laughing my ass off.

yoda
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specialstupid
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Why, because it's true? Your probably only old enough to wipe the snot off your nose with your sleeve.
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no because as usual, your full of yourself and full of bsmeter2
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What's most disturbing to me about this rapture belief is that I've seen supposed christians accelerating their abuse towards others by stepping on heads and completely ignoring their behavior towards non-christians, because they think it's okay to act as they please because they are forgiven because they believe have been "saved" and they think the rapture will come any day to whisk them away. I have seen this in my own birth family. It's very sad, hurtful, and heartbreaking, because christians have not a care in the world who they hurt or how.

I really don't understand how christians can take the bible verbatim, as no one even knows who has had their hands in it by now, let alone knowing for sure who wrote it in the first place. With that being said, the rapture theory is a false interpretation of the above IMO, and the rapture is no where to be found in the bible anyway.

Show me the verses saying that there will be a rapture, I have read this thread and no one has posted them anyway. There is NO RAPTURE, no time, no where. Christians don't be surprised if you are still here. In the meantime you can practice true christianity by treating your fellow man, and woman, much better than you have been doing.

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Gotta love a good religious war. Like a bunch of bickering 10yr olds .... I'm right, no I'm right, no I'm right.

You backwards religitards can't even figure out that your own in-fighting pushes people away from your religion. You say we all should believe like you, but the lot of you can't even figure out what to believe.
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Open your heart to God and find your answers.
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Literary comprehension must not be your best asset, considering I did not propose a question.

God (whatever the entity really is) is in me, religion is not, nor ever will be again, you can keep the brainwashing, I was fortunate enough to escape it after 20yrs.
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It is called the Holy Spirit if you do not recognize that it is not in you.

You cannot save yourself unless you repent, born-again as new creation in Christ
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That the only way to Spirit is thru YOUR belief is YOUR dogma to deal with.

Those of us who got out of that dogma know this, as well as people that are awake to Spirituality without ever having succumb to religion of any sort. Your belief is not the only path, because you "have faith" that your Christ crap is the ONLY way is arrogance absolute.

As for repent to your Christ ...... again with reading skill: I escaped your system, deprogrammed, and opened up for all possibilities, of which, the belief of ones dogma does not make it fact, it only makes it your system of being told what to believe, who to believe, and how to believe.

And as a reply to YOU telling ME that I need to repent to your fantasyland savior ....... goodbye.
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I feel sorry for you Christians. I was once brainwashed too. I was made to go to church every Wed. night and twice on Sunday,plus my Grandmother was a preacher. I heard it constantly. Well, when I grew up and came out of the matrix, I realized that Religion was a effing subjugation tool, one of many used by the ruling elite to keep us subservient. If you dumb-asses want to believe in your great Sky ghost to come and deliver you from evil...good luck with that! I will ask you this to ponder though. If your sky ghost is real, why is it that in all of my years, I have never heard a single christian person say the words, "I have heard Gods audible voice"? I would be willing to bet my next paycheck that non of you have either. Prove me wrong. Christians are always talking about God did this and God did that...how do you know this, when you can't prove it?

When you all learn to interpret the bible the way it was intended my the ancient mystics (allegorically) who wrote it, you will be much better off. I know I like my version better than the one preached of the total annihilation of the earth by a bearded psycho and his Dad.

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Open your heart to God and find your answers.
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Literary comprehension must not be your best asset, considering I did not propose a question.

God (whatever the entity really is) is in me, religion is not, nor ever will be again, you can keep the brainwashing, I was fortunate enough to escape it after 20yrs.
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It is called the Holy Spirit if you do not recognize that it is not in you.

You cannot save yourself unless you repent, born-again as new creation in Christ
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65584408


That the only way to Spirit is thru YOUR belief is YOUR dogma to deal with.

Those of us who got out of that dogma know this, as well as people that are awake to Spirituality without ever having succumb to religion of any sort. Your belief is not the only path, because you "have faith" that your Christ crap is the ONLY way is arrogance absolute.

As for repent to your Christ ...... again with reading skill: I escaped your system, deprogrammed, and opened up for all possibilities, of which, the belief of ones dogma does not make it fact, it only makes it your system of being told what to believe, who to believe, and how to believe.

And as a reply to YOU telling ME that I need to repent to your fantasyland savior ....... goodbye.
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Do any of you Dicks actually believe the same thing ?

You are the same religion and each one of you believes something different .

This is why there is over 20 000 different Christian denominations.
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The World Counsel of Churches and affiliates has just about cinched the knot on the truth for the generations of the end. satan has been poisoning the well long before that though.



Mark 13:5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:
Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Mark 13:8 continued... and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows."

Amos 8

11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:

The famine of the end times is for hearing the Word of God with understanding and the Truth.

And there we have your observation in Gods own chosen words.
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When all you proof and replies lies in Bible quotes it is tantamount to gibberish.
The reason there are so many denominations is because of the way each person interprets a book written in gibberish.
If this was the book of a omnipotent God i think everyone would get the EXACT same interpretation.
The Bible is a book written by man.
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You are all trying to use your own understanding and knowledge to "figure out" if there is a rapture.
But I believe you have a veil over your eyes and heart. You do not seek GOD out, your hearts are hardened and GOD will nor reveal anything to you unless you truly seek him.

Can an earthworm understand the human anatomy?

GOD speaks to his children and his children listen.
He sent his son Jesus for you all. And you have rejected him. I'm doing my best to lead you to the right path , but you do not want to hear it.

If your heart is seeking for truth, GOD gives all divine knowledge.

And for all those who are truly seeking ... understand the feast days. Love ya all.



I will embed this one too. I have been saying the same over and over too!

God's feast days are all prophetic.
Blessings. hf
~~Much Peace, Love, and Light~~Always
Concerning life and death: I embrace both equally!
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Open your heart to God and find your answers.
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Literary comprehension must not be your best asset, considering I did not propose a question.

God (whatever the entity really is) is in me, religion is not, nor ever will be again, you can keep the brainwashing, I was fortunate enough to escape it after 20yrs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40212518


It is called the Holy Spirit if you do not recognize that it is not in you.

You cannot save yourself unless you repent, born-again as new creation in Christ
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65584408


That the only way to Spirit is thru YOUR belief is YOUR dogma to deal with.

Those of us who got out of that dogma know this, as well as people that are awake to Spirituality without ever having succumb to religion of any sort. Your belief is not the only path, because you "have faith" that your Christ crap is the ONLY way is arrogance absolute.

As for repent to your Christ ...... again with reading skill: I escaped your system, deprogrammed, and opened up for all possibilities, of which, the belief of ones dogma does not make it fact, it only makes it your system of being told what to believe, who to believe, and how to believe.

And as a reply to YOU telling ME that I need to repent to your fantasyland savior ....... goodbye.
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You escape right into the devil's path
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I feel sorry for you Christians. I was once brainwashed too. I was made to go to church every Wed. night and twice on Sunday,plus my Grandmother was a preacher. I heard it constantly. Well, when I grew up and came out of the matrix, I realized that Religion was a effing subjugation tool, one of many used by the ruling elite to keep us subservient. If you dumb-asses want to believe in your great Sky ghost to come and deliver you from evil...good luck with that! I will ask you this to ponder though. If your sky ghost is real, why is it that in all of my years, I have never heard a single christian person say the words, "I have heard Gods audible voice"? I would be willing to bet my next paycheck that non of you have either. Prove me wrong. Christians are always talking about God did this and God did that...how do you know this, when you can't prove it?

When you all learn to interpret the bible the way it was intended my the ancient mystics (allegorically) who wrote it, you will be much better off. I know I like my version better than the one preached of the total annihilation of the earth by a bearded psycho and his Dad.

rofl
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I have heard God's audible voice. It is a shame you haven't heard the call in your heart where it is most important. Because you discount God and his salvation plan through his Son that leaves one thing for you to be part of.

From biblehub.com 2 John 1:7For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Christ said "You shall know a tree by the fruit it bears." What do you bear?
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Considering we are already through the tribulation, this entire thread is a mute point.
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We are right in the middle of it according to charts I've seen.
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The Word is a jigsaw puzzle and we have free will. It's a jigsaw puzzle so that Satan cannot decipher it and know Father's exact war plan and timeline. Otherwise there would be no point in the spiritual war. Free will dictates how the war progresses. Anything can happen and change and has more times than you realize. The charts are wrong.
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What's most disturbing to me about this rapture belief is that I've seen supposed christians accelerating their abuse towards others by stepping on heads and completely ignoring their behavior towards non-christians, because they think it's okay to act as they please because they are forgiven because they believe have been "saved" and they think the rapture will come any day to whisk them away. I have seen this in my own birth family. It's very sad, hurtful, and heartbreaking, because christians have not a care in the world who they hurt or how.

I really don't understand how christians can take the bible verbatim, as no one even knows who has had their hands in it by now, let alone knowing for sure who wrote it in the first place. With that being said, the rapture theory is a false interpretation of the above IMO, and the rapture is no where to be found in the bible anyway.

Show me the verses saying that there will be a rapture, I have read this thread and no one has posted them anyway. There is NO RAPTURE, no time, no where. Christians don't be surprised if you are still here. In the meantime you can practice true christianity by treating your fellow man, and woman, much better than you have been doing.

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[link to www.kingjamesbibleonline.org]

very different in my idiom though
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I feel sorry for you Christians. I was once brainwashed too. I was made to go to church every Wed. night and twice on Sunday,plus my Grandmother was a preacher. I heard it constantly. Well, when I grew up and came out of the matrix, I realized that Religion was a effing subjugation tool, one of many used by the ruling elite to keep us subservient. If you dumb-asses want to believe in your great Sky ghost to come and deliver you from evil...good luck with that! I will ask you this to ponder though. If your sky ghost is real, why is it that in all of my years, I have never heard a single christian person say the words, "I have heard Gods audible voice"? I would be willing to bet my next paycheck that non of you have either. Prove me wrong. Christians are always talking about God did this and God did that...how do you know this, when you can't prove it?

When you all learn to interpret the bible the way it was intended my the ancient mystics (allegorically) who wrote it, you will be much better off. I know I like my version better than the one preached of the total annihilation of the earth by a bearded psycho and his Dad.

rofl
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I have heard His voice both in a whisper and an undeniable roar. I am sure that I am not alone either.





GLP