If Zimmerman was going to murder Martin beside several houses, why would he allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds?

I think you misunderstand the original post.

Z thought he was smarter than the Law. He thought he knew how stalk and kill and be exonerated under stand your ground laws.

Z met M scream because he got off on Iit. It made him feel manly and powerful. He was the pudgy little guy whose boxing coach calls him "soft". He was violent with his girlfriend. Can't you see him unable to stop tu king tail in a ring with a man but acting like king king at home with a girl? Nice guy. When he realised pushing women around has consequences he hatched another plan. If indeed the screams were trayvons, that was the best part for Zimmerman.

It's possible z screamed for help because he premeditated his murder. It's possible he got beat down by the teenager.

Just be glad he will never be a cop.

This case is so cut and dry that's why they didn't hold him and let him free , to piss people off. He's a grown man walking around w/ a gun loaded with HOLLOW POINT BULLETS and he wasn't even on duty. He went looking for trouble which is Probobly what he lives for. Nothing about what Travon was doing that night sounded suspicious to me whatsoever. Zimmerman knew if he shot him at such close range w/ those hollow point bullets he would almost be sure to die , so what if Trayvon was getting the best of him , he was mearly defending himself and I very much doubt that he was looking to hurt Zimmerman as much as he could. Besides , what kind of man would kill a kid just because he got beat up ? Do I think that's what happened , not exactly , I think "they" picked him to be a patsy because he was perfect for the job. They may have instructed him to kill Travon that night. The timing of this inncedent and all the others is just to much of a "coincidence". We all know that the verdict of this case has the potential to cause violence.

Sadly, and as much as I hate to believe it might be possible, in my opinion regardless of evidence or lack thereof, Zimmerman will be found guilty for the good of the country.

After things have cooled off and the media has lost interest, his conviction will quietly be reversed, and he will disappear into witness protection.

If he IS found not guilty, look for some very bad possibilities to come forth into reality.

No misunderstanding here is my post again

Simply because Martin’s mama swears the voice is that, of her felon son does not make it true and in fact, George Zimmerman’s mother has made the same claim. I suspect that somewhere during the investigation, the cries for help were compared to Zimmerman and if it were indeed not his voice then the entire world would know.

Remember that the prosecution is delving far into George Zimmerman’s life trying to manufacture anything that might stick against Zimmerman while Martin criminal past cannot be revealed which means Zimmerman’s defense is hobbled by pandering to Martin.

Do you have a link to the pics in question?

The Defense also emphasized greatly, in the act examining the protocol of the crime scene, that it says hands are to be placed in paper bags and not plastic. According to the Medical Examiner Dr. Bao.

Do you have a link to the pics in question?

The Defense also emphasized greatly, in the act examining the protocol of the crime scene, that it says hands are to be placed in paper bags and not plastic. According to the Medical Examiner Dr. Bao.

I'm not sure evidence contamination has much actual benefit to the defense. Where so many harbor preconceived notions, it allows many theorists to speculate, even us.

Goddamit, GZ did not go out hunting for nwords to murder! He was doing what neighborhood watch people do, which is watching for suspicious people in the neighborhood. He has a right to look at people because thats what people of the neighborhood expect him to do. He did nothing wrong there. TM came up and attacked him as he was getting into his vehicle then pound his head in the ground. He shot the boy because he thought TM was trying to kill him.

Its not a fucking murder get a brian morans.

I do not have the links but it was said their are photos of this due to procedure. And that was confirmed.

The kid was walking home from the store, high, according to the toxicology report, probably paranoid, a street smart kid watching his back and saw someone watching him. He gets pissed because he thinks no one should be watching him and decides to confront GZ. [My speculation here] Then GZ tells TM that he just called the police because of suspicion. That's when the fight starts.

Yeah. The DNA guy testified that to package in plastic was a big no-no and that the clothing was packaged in plastic, too. Which brings chain of custody and contamination of evidence into question.

Wrong. The examiner stated the clothing was in paper bags , which is proper procedure . The defense asked him about plastic , to which the examiner said " If anyone were to used plastic, they would be fired immediately".

He testified that he did not know and ASSUMED that paper was used because that's procedure.

I'm sorry, but the DNA guy testifying that the clothing was packaged in plastic and smelled of mildew is not "wrong" as you claim.

You're doing what I've seen you do on every thread, misstating things as you want them to be, not as they are.

Again, proving that you've not been watching the trial, just picking up filtered information. Who told you this data that is WRONG? Sharpton on MSNBC?

Your still wrong on this one. Now go to bed.

Nice! Link plus video. Great way to present a point. Thanks!

Someone asked several times "why hasn't GZ shown remorse?". I believe he did. There was an investigator who gave testimony and said that when she told GZ that Trayvon has died he looked down and was remorseful. He also stated "Catholics should not kill."

She responded that if what he had told her was the truth he was within his rights to protect himself.

Another small piece of testimony that struck me was that George was happy when he heard there was video evidence.

These facts alone are not consistent with someone who was dead set on killing someone.

Someone asked several times "why hasn't GZ shown remorse?". I believe he did. There was an investigator who gave testimony and said that when she told GZ that Trayvon has died he looked down and was remorseful. He also stated "Catholics should not kill."

She responded that if what he had told her was the truth he was within his rights to protect himself.

Another small piece of testimony that struck me was that George was happy when he heard there was video evidence.

These facts alone are not consistent with someone who was dead set on killing someone.

Another small piece of testimony that struck me was that George was happy when he heard there was video evidence.

I don't consider that to be a SMALL piece of testimony; it speaks volumes, and even by itself it is an insurmountable 'reasonable doubt'.

That may be the most delusional post I've ever read about the case. I hope you never operate a motor vehicle or heavy machinery.