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If Zimmerman was going to murder Martin beside several houses, why would he allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds?

 
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How long has insanity plagued you? Is that you O'Mara?
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I forgot to add that Zimmerman hired the Wonder Twins. The girl twin took the shape of a babboon (to lure Trayvon via his raging hormones) and the boy twin took the form of an ice necklace (so Trayvon would see somethinghe wanted to steal).

Zimmerman was going to escape via Wonder Woman's invisible jet, but she got lost on the way.
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Re: If Zimmerman was going to murder Martin beside several houses, why would he allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds?
Because it wasn't Trayvon screaming that's why? Why would the aggressor scream? The neighbor who testified in court say Trayvon on top of George.
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Re: If Zimmerman was going to murder Martin beside several houses, why would he allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds?
Because Zimmerman is a Psychopath who was enjoying the kill and getting a rush from the screams.
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Because Zimmerman was a slob with weak hands, who was trying to kill someone with his bare, hands; failed; left to return to his truck to get his gun; returned and shot.

That is why the boy with the dog saw the body lying there with no one hunkering over it; he was at the truck getting his gun.

The reason the boy did not return to the body, after retrieving his run-away-dog is because the shot scared him off.
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So you are contending that Martin was knocked out and left lying on the ground? Are you assuming that Zimmerman shocked him into fainting by flashing him? Or that Martin was so tired of being chased by a creepy white cracker, that he curled up and went to sleep on the lawn?

Because, the coroner only found two injuries on Martin. A bruised on his knuckle from breaking Zimmerman's nose, and the bullet wound that ended his life.
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Re: If Zimmerman was going to murder Martin beside several houses, why would he allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds?
because he is an unusually cruel man that enjoyed seeing the boy scream for his life.

should of been first degree.
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But they say he is a "smart" person. Intellect overcomes emotion if you are planning murder, otherwise we are talking unplanned killing and manslaughter.

Also where in Zimmerman's life is the pattern of torturing animals and such which would be indicative of such depravity?

I appreciate the answer, but I am just not there yet.
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You think he "planned" to murder Tray? I guess if that were true he would be up for murder one.

And so far George's past and present life up to the point he was attacked by T was pretty good. Are you just making shit up?

Have you watched even a minute of the trial or are you just living in a fairy tale?
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I got one better for you. Who the fuck calls 911, that is planning on killing someone?
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The Screaming Shooter, who else?
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I'll tell you how I KNOW Zimmerman was the one screaming. Zimmerman told the cops he was screaming for help before he even knew Trayvon was dead or that the screams had even been recorded. He told them thisd from the very beginning. He even told them he was screaming to John Good to help him, and Good was only standing 15 feet away. Good did identify Martin as the one on top.

Well, that and the fact that Trayvon Martin had a voice that sounded like "Chef" from South Park. Zimmerman has a much higher voice.
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Re: If Zimmerman was going to murder Martin beside several houses, why would he allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds?
Because it wasn't Trayvon screaming that's why? Why would the aggressor scream? The neighbor who testified in court say Trayvon on top of George.
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Why would George play ride the horsie with his target?
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Re: If Zimmerman was going to murder Martin beside several houses, why would he allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds?
I would like defense attorneys to ask any of Martin's witnesses or even prosecutors to explain why Zimmerman would allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds just a few feet from several homes? That obviously would bring forth witnesses which you would not want if you were the smart but depraved person the prosecution has depicted Zimmerman to be.

It is not an adult move. It is not reasonable. This is not a movie where you talk to someone for a minute before you kill them. In real life if Zimmerman is the aggressor armed with a gun and ill intent, Martin doesn't make 10 seconds much less 40 seconds of screaming.

Speaking of adults, when was the last time you saw an unfit late twenties stranger chase down a fit young athletic teenager?

Post whatever you like. I am looking for answers to questions that have been "bugging" me
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I smell an engineered race war.
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Re: If Zimmerman was going to murder Martin beside several houses, why would he allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds?
I got one better for you. Who the fuck calls 911, that is planning on killing someone?
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The Screaming Shooter, who else?
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I'll tell you how I KNOW Zimmerman was the one screaming. Zimmerman told the cops he was screaming for help before he even knew Trayvon was dead or that the screams had even been recorded. He told them thisd from the very beginning. He even told them he was screaming to John Good to help him, and Good was only standing 15 feet away. Good did identify Martin as the one on top.

Well, that and the fact that Trayvon Martin had a voice that sounded like "Chef" from South Park. Zimmerman has a much higher voice.
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I wouldn't waste the time trying to convince these trolls of anything. They are apparently clueless and in need of some serious meds.
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Re: If Zimmerman was going to murder Martin beside several houses, why would he allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds?
I would like defense attorneys to ask any of Martin's witnesses or even prosecutors to explain why Zimmerman would allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds just a few feet from several homes? That obviously would bring forth witnesses which you would not want if you were the smart but depraved person the prosecution has depicted Zimmerman to be.

It is not an adult move. It is not reasonable. This is not a movie where you talk to someone for a minute before you kill them. In real life if Zimmerman is the aggressor armed with a gun and ill intent, Martin doesn't make 10 seconds much less 40 seconds of screaming.

Speaking of adults, when was the last time you saw an unfit late twenties stranger chase down a fit young athletic teenager?

Post whatever you like. I am looking for answers to questions that have been "bugging" me
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I smell an engineered race war.
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I wouldn't argue with that, this case should have never gone to trial.
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Re: If Zimmerman was going to murder Martin beside several houses, why would he allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds?
I'm sorry this is horribly off topic...BUT the statement bolded below reminds me of the McMartin Child molestation case in the 80's. The parents paid for and FOUND the tunnels that the children talked about. But the Los Angeles D.A. (Ira Reiner) would not allow the evidence to be admitted. Same shit, different case. Dammit.



Because it wasn't Martin who was screening. It was GZ. Audio analysis experts confirmed it but weren't allowed to be called into court. That's fucked enough but Martins mom and brother WERE allowed to say it was TM? Just more proof this is a giant shit show. Every witness the state has called has been a train wreck. From the "girlfriend" to the coroner who was reading from his notes. I bet those notes were written for him.
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The murderers crappy kel tec jammed. That's why. This guy will go down as charged.
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Re: If Zimmerman was going to murder Martin beside several houses, why would he allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds?
because he is an unusually cruel man that enjoyed seeing the boy scream for his life.

should of been first degree.
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But they say he is a "smart" person. Intellect overcomes emotion if you are planning murder, otherwise we are talking unplanned killing and manslaughter.

Also where in Zimmerman's life is the pattern of torturing animals and such which would be indicative of such depravity?

I appreciate the answer, but I am just not there yet.
 Quoting: We Who Watch


You think he "planned" to murder Tray? I guess if that were true he would be up for murder one.

And so far George's past and present life up to the point he was attacked by T was pretty good. Are you just making shit up?

Have you watched even a minute of the trial or are you just living in a fairy tale?
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"Good" life, yeah:

Here is "George's" life that you seem to know nothing:
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Re: If Zimmerman was going to murder Martin beside several houses, why would he allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds?
Because Zimmerman did not want to kill the boy nor did he plan to do it from the get go. Trayvon was high and he was the one out seeking joy from hurting someone. He didn't like an uppity cracker watching him and suckerpunched Zimmerman then beat his head against the pavement.
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U have to be the most stupid MF on earth to believe it was travon that was screaming for help....lol...u stupid mf racist people
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I got one better for you. Who the fuck calls 911, that is planning on killing someone?
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We did have someone down in Houston who did shoot someone while on 911, but he went to a house that had a loud party and instigated and lured the people off of their property. The jury convicted him.
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Re: If Zimmerman was going to murder Martin beside several houses, why would he allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds?
I would like defense attorneys to ask any of Martin's witnesses or even prosecutors to explain why Zimmerman would allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds just a few feet from several homes? That obviously would bring forth witnesses which you would not want if you were the smart but depraved person the prosecution has depicted Zimmerman to be.

It is not an adult move. It is not reasonable. This is not a movie where you talk to someone for a minute before you kill them. In real life if Zimmerman is the aggressor armed with a gun and ill intent, Martin doesn't make 10 seconds much less 40 seconds of screaming.

Speaking of adults, when was the last time you saw an unfit late twenties stranger chase down a fit young athletic teenager?

Post whatever you like. I am looking for answers to questions that have been "bugging" me
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That would be called premeditated. He was not charged nor on trial for premeditated murder. He didn't intend to kill him when he took it upon himself to play John Wayne.

Had he not pursued him as instructed by 911 the ending of this event would be VERY different.

Also, at the time of the murder, Zimmerman was not as big as he is now. He was much more physically fit.

You yourself made a very poignant statement. You said, ".. stranger chase down" Would you try to flee if a stranger were following you. At some point would you stop running, turn around, stand your ground, and ask the STRANGER why he was following you?
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Sorry OP shills be on this one hard
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Re: If Zimmerman was going to murder Martin beside several houses, why would he allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds?
Because it wasn't Trayvon screaming that's why? Why would the aggressor scream? The neighbor who testified in court say Trayvon on top of George.
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You people are out of your minds. Trayvon was coming from the store minding his business talking on the phone when a stranger began to follow him and chase him down. At some point he stopped, stood his ground, and asked Z why he was following him.
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Re: If Zimmerman was going to murder Martin beside several houses, why would he allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds?
because he is an unusually cruel man that enjoyed seeing the boy scream for his life.

should of been first degree.
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But they say he is a "smart" person. Intellect overcomes emotion if you are planning murder, otherwise we are talking unplanned killing and manslaughter.

Also where in Zimmerman's life is the pattern of torturing animals and such which would be indicative of such depravity?

I appreciate the answer, but I am just not there yet.
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You think he "planned" to murder Tray? I guess if that were true he would be up for murder one.

And so far George's past and present life up to the point he was attacked by T was pretty good. Are you just making shit up?

Have you watched even a minute of the trial or are you just living in a fairy tale?
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I think you missed the point, so I must have made it badly. Someone suggested Zimmerman was cruel and I was asking for any evidence in his childhood of cruel behavior towards animals or perhaps other children.
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Re: If Zimmerman was going to murder Martin beside several houses, why would he allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds?
Because it wasn't Trayvon screaming that's why? Why would the aggressor scream? The neighbor who testified in court say Trayvon on top of George.
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You people are out of your minds. Trayvon was coming from the store minding his business talking on the phone when a stranger began to follow him and chase him down. At some point he stopped, stood his ground, and asked Z why he was following him.
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This is what happened just before Trayvon Martin was murdered:

“He say, ‘Why are you following me for?’ ” Ms. Jeantel recounted, quoting Mr. Martin. “I heard him, a hard-breathing man, saying, ‘What you doing around here?’ ”

Then she said she heard a bump — the headset — and “the sound of wet grass.” “I calling, ‘Trayvon, Trayvon,’ ” Ms. Jeantel said. “I kind of heard Trayvon saying, ‘Get off, get off.’ Suddenly the phone hung up, shut off.”

As she told her story, Ms. Jeantel said that Mr. Martin told her repeatedly that he was being followed as he walked inside the housing complex where Mr. Zimmerman lived and Mr. Martin was staying. It was raining, she said, and Mr. Martin was headed home.

“I asked him how the man looked like,” Ms. Jeantel said. “He just told me the man looked like a creepy-ass cracker."

In response, the defence is trying to demonize Trayvon Martin and that is a sick tactic. Clearly, they have left no stone unturned in their arsenal of gimmicks that are supposed to adjust the truth in this case.
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In my humble opinion Trayvon was murdered for standing his ground. I think it is obvious that he was stalked by Zim and fought back but lost to a gun shot. The kid should have ran he would probably still be alive, very sad for all partys.
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dont they got some kind of recording software that can tell whose voice it is? Pretty funny how they act all primitive with their approach to who was screaming
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The murderers crappy kel tec jammed. That's why. This guy will go down as charged.
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Well, he should have had a Ruger then, right?
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You people are out of your minds. Trayvon was coming from the store minding his business talking on the phone when a stranger began to follow him and chase him down. At some point he stopped, stood his ground, and asked Z why he was following him.
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Trayvon jumped a fence to get into a gate community, George Zimmerman witnessed him jumping the fence, he had every right to not only follow him but arrest him right there.

The fact he would act like Zimmerman was 'creepy' and following him is typical bizarre sense of entitlement to be all up inside you. Martin could have been up inside your daughter and if you acted like something was wrong, he'd look at you like you was crazy or somethin.
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U have to be the most stupid MF on earth to believe it was travon that was screaming for help....lol...u stupid mf racist people
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The prosecution is contending that it was Martin who screamed. I want someone to ask them why, if it WAS Martin, would Zimmerman allow him to scream for 40 seconds if Zimmerman was hunting him down to shoot him. If committing murder, the last thing you would want is witnesses.
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Because Zimmerman did not want to kill the boy nor did he plan to do it from the get go. Trayvon was high and he was the one out seeking joy from hurting someone. He didn't like an uppity cracker watching him and suckerpunched Zimmerman then beat his head against the pavement.
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WTFAYTB???!!!

He was walking from the store minding his business and talking on the phone. He didn't seek or chase down Z, Z pursued Trayvon.

If you were walking in a neighborhood and someone was chasing you down, asked who you were, and why you were in the neighborhood would you tell them? I would tell the stranger none of you damn business. Trayvon did not owe Z an explanation. Also, Z was the only one looking to hurt someone. After all, Z continued to pursue although 911 told him not do that, and he grabbed his gun before getting out of his vehicle.


You all need to think before you make comments like this or at least read over your responses.
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I would like defense attorneys to ask any of Martin's witnesses or even prosecutors to explain why Zimmerman would allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds just a few feet from several homes? That obviously would bring forth witnesses which you would not want if you were the smart but depraved person the prosecution has depicted Zimmerman to be.

It is not an adult move. It is not reasonable. This is not a movie where you talk to someone for a minute before you kill them. In real life if Zimmerman is the aggressor armed with a gun and ill intent, Martin doesn't make 10 seconds much less 40 seconds of screaming.

Speaking of adults, when was the last time you saw an unfit late twenties stranger chase down a fit young athletic teenager?

Post whatever you like. I am looking for answers to questions that have been "bugging" me
 Quoting: We Who Watch


That would be called premeditated. He was not charged nor on trial for premeditated murder. He didn't intend to kill him when he took it upon himself to play John Wayne.

Had he not pursued him as instructed by 911 the ending of this event would be VERY different.

Also, at the time of the murder, Zimmerman was not as big as he is now. He was much more physically fit.

You yourself made a very poignant statement. You said, ".. stranger chase down" Would you try to flee if a stranger were following you. At some point would you stop running, turn around, stand your ground, and ask the STRANGER why he was following you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17259381

I do not believe that even a more slender Zimmerman could catch a younger more athletic Martin. I give Martin credit for having better fitness and genetics at that point in his life. Deciding to turn on someone when you are near your final destination is not a good decision however.
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Sorry OP shills be on this one hard
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Even shills have to somewhat logical or they get laughed off the thread.
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Re: If Zimmerman was going to murder Martin beside several houses, why would he allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds?
I would like defense attorneys to ask any of Martin's witnesses or even prosecutors to explain why Zimmerman would allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds just a few feet from several homes? That obviously would bring forth witnesses which you would not want if you were the smart but depraved person the prosecution has depicted Zimmerman to be.

It is not an adult move. It is not reasonable. This is not a movie where you talk to someone for a minute before you kill them. In real life if Zimmerman is the aggressor armed with a gun and ill intent, Martin doesn't make 10 seconds much less 40 seconds of screaming.

Speaking of adults, when was the last time you saw an unfit late twenties stranger chase down a fit young athletic teenager?

Post whatever you like. I am looking for answers to questions that have been "bugging" me
 Quoting: We Who Watch


VERY good point, and frankly one I had not thought of yet. This case is so convaluded though, it's beyond logic. The Rodney King and OJ trial proved all hope was lost for our judicial system. It's all BS.
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Re: If Zimmerman was going to murder Martin beside several houses, why would he allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds?
Because Zimmerman is a Psychopath who was enjoying the kill and getting a rush from the screams.
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Because Zimmerman was a slob with weak hands, who was trying to kill someone with his bare, hands; failed; left to return to his truck to get his gun; returned and shot.

That is why the boy with the dog saw the body lying there with no one hunkering over it; he was at the truck getting his gun.

The reason the boy did not return to the body, after retrieving his run-away-dog is because the shot scared him off.
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So you are contending that Martin was knocked out and left lying on the ground? Are you assuming that Zimmerman shocked him into fainting by flashing him? Or that Martin was so tired of being chased by a creepy white cracker, that he curled up and went to sleep on the lawn?

Because, the coroner only found two injuries on Martin. A bruised on his knuckle from breaking Zimmerman's nose, and the bullet wound that ended his life.
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Zimmerman is/was a Jew, and Martin's knuckle was from fighting for his life while the weight of a slob had him pinned down strangling him, and trying to break his neck.

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Your hatred for the Jews, is taking away all your common sense. There was no bruising or injury to any part of Martins body, except his knuckles and the gun shot wound. If Zimmerman, who got the name through an adoption, was trying to strangle Martin, then there would have been marks on Marin's neck. His neck was free of marks and bruising.

The bruising to the knuckles wasn't a defensive wound, it was cause by his offensive attack.





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