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Why are there Different Perceptions of the Creator? Each has their own Perspective

 
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Cos people are different, lunge in different environments, have different values and needs.
Gods are the manifested Will of Peoples.
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Cos people are different, lunge in different environments, have different values and needs.
Gods are the manifested Will of Peoples.
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So groups of people create their own gods? Do you think that there is a God that is above all the human created gods?
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The 200 Fallen angels at the time of Jared brought all kinds of 'knowledge'. Look at what they taught people.

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Show us where God calls wisdom 'Sophia'.

You can't.

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Plenty of verses in the Bible addressing the supposed 'wise' people. Go and READ them.

Thread: Knowledge Wisdom Truth and the Wise - KJV Bible Study
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Obviously these 'wise' people only had man's wisdom and not God given wisdom and they did not know God in a personal way.
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Salvation doesn't require 'wisdom' nor 'knowledge'.

It requires Repentence and Belief.

Thread: The Gospel - Basic Teachings of Jesus (amd Paul) for Salvation - KJV Bible Study

Thread: Paul Taught Repentance - Gospel - KJV Bible Study

Thread: Paul Taught the 10 Commandments - Gospel - Bible Study


Thread: ONE Gospel - FROM God - THRU Jesus - Taught by ALL of the Apostles - NOT Just Paul - Bible Study
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This thread was not discussing salvation. You are off topic. The title is different perceptions of the Creator with each person having their own perspective.
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He goes off topic a lot to push his opinion of what scripture means. But I am sure you knew that.
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This fall and 2023 seem to be heading for big changes. Time to get our priorities straight.
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here is your answer

El Saddai = El Satan

many "Gods" = many alien lords

keep digging ...
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This thread was not discussing salvation. You are off topic. The title is different perceptions of the Creator with each person having their own perspective.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

The Creator / Living God of the Bible spoke about reconciling the Gentiles back to Him many times in the Old Testament - and the entire New Testament is all about Salvation.

Gnostics reject that.

Which are you?
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Fair question.

Everyone's path is their own to walk. I grew up learning and studying the Bible which I continue to do. I agree with you on some things but disagree on other opinions related to biblical verses. The verses say what they say, but opinions on what that means causes disagreements in opinions.

In addition, we are dealing with translations of the original language and there have been many documented mistranslation simple because many that translate from original language did not originate from childhood speaking those languages. So there are lots of things lost putting the scripture into the English language.

Currently I study under an orthodox rabbi as I strive to understand what the verses in the original language more accurately say.

I agree that both the old testament and new testament spoke about reconciling the Gentiles back to a relationship with the Creator. This reconciliation involves a person's inward walk with the Creator as they make their way through life and learn what the Creator has for them. Jesus taught how to do that by words and deeds.

I don't label myself as it is not about any one group or religion. It is about a relationship with the Creator. It is about walking with the Creator through life as the Creator intended.

What ever path you are on, stay on it as you walk with the Creator. It is an amazing adventure of learning and growing.
"Do only that, which would be acceptable to all mankind."
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Do you understand the plain verses in the bible. The Creator does give wisdom and knowledge.

James 1:5

But if any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all generously and without reproach, and it will be given to him.


When the Creator gives visions and dreams such as to Nebuchadnezzar, Daniel, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, and etc. is that not imparting knowledge of future events?

Just because you may have not asked for and received wisdom from the Creator, don't assume others can't do so when the scripture clearly says that they can.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar


Servant-of-the-lord quotes the Bible but doesn't understand the words. He only has opinions of what he thinks the Bible says.
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That's true for most of us. There are the Creator's words and then our interpretation of what the words mean. This is further compounded by the fact that we are dealing with various translations of all ancient texts.
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Then our arguments are really just differences of opinions?
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Yes.
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Rosh Hashanahs starts this Saturday (September 24) at sundown.
It begins the 10 days of judgement leading up to Yom Kippur on October 4.

It is a time of judgement on the world.

It is a time of balancing the scales of justice as it is Libra (September 23 to October 22).

Big things are likely to happen. Just look at the narrative in the MSM.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar


A lot of threads here on GLP are speculating that big changes are soon to occur.

Stay focused on the path that you are walking.

Stay connected to the Creator.

Detach from the chaos that surrounds us and permeates this reality.

Realize that to rise above the world of duality, one must strive to walk with the Creator and see through the perspective of all.

Treat those around you as you would want to be treated.

Blessings in these final moments before us.
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Are you predicting the end is near or just saying to watch as major things are a out to happen? How do you prepare for world war?
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I am not predicting anything. I am just observing the exponential increase in craziness in the world and noticing major things are happening. It is wise and prudent to be prepared which will likely be different for each of us depending on our circumstances and where we are located.
"Do only that, which would be acceptable to all mankind."
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Cos people are different, lunge in different environments, have different values and needs.
Gods are the manifested Will of Peoples.
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So groups of people create their own gods? Do you think that there is a God that is above all the human created gods?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84149868


Your thoughts can create things. If enough of the population believes in a made up god, then they give it their collective energies that can affect things in this reality.

Here is a thread that has some discussion on this topic and I am sure that there are other threads with similar topics.

Thread: Your Thoughts have Power: They can Create Entities or Transport You to Anywhere
"Do only that, which would be acceptable to all mankind."
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People look for God outside themselves rather than within.
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People look for God outside themselves rather than within.
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Exactly. Thanks for the comment!
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here is your answer

El Saddai = El Satan

many "Gods" = many alien lords

keep digging ...
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I will, thanks for the comment and encouragement to keep digging for truth.
"Do only that, which would be acceptable to all mankind."
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In Exodus chapter 6 God revealed it's highest manifestation to Moses with the name YHVH and contrasted that with the name of El Shaddai that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob knew God as. Commentators in the Stone Edition of the Torah note that El Shaddai was a lesser manifestation of God that put limits on creation through natural laws and put limits on the universe while YHVH was the highest manifestation of God.

Both manifestations of "God" derive from the Creator/Source energy that comes from nothingness or void. Out of nothing came a divine thought that was nothing until it became something. Similar how humans think before speaking words from sounds. The thought arises to produce something more tangible.

The key point is that there is One source to all. The universal mind that is aware and exists and is outside of our realm and unknowable to us.

We are co-creators with this source and by trying to understand and define what created us, we as a group co-create smaller faces or fractals of the unknowable energy that we focus on to call "god". These fractals are part of the unknowable Creator/Source and are given power by those that believe in them.

Groups fight and argue about their opinions and perspectives of what they believe to be truth when in reality whatever each individual believes to be true is their reality and their universe.

The great awakening is when a significant portion of humanity sees through veil to understand that there is only One with many parts and that the parts are really an illusion as the One explores different perspectives of itself.

We are very close to the unveiling where many will understand and see through the illusion.

All those with awareness of existing are part of the greater whole. In the end those with awareness will acknowledge that there is only One and that what we view as separation is just an illusion.

Continue to follow your individual path of awakening. Look deep within your being to know who you are and what you are part of. See beyond the illusions all around you that distract. Do not engage in arguing with others about their path compared to your own, but instead, focus your energies and thoughts on reaching your source and truths within. When you accomplish that, you will grow to change your perspective to see through the illusion by increasing your awareness.

The Creator/Source has total awareness. By going within to enhance our connection to our Source energy, we will expand our awareness to go beyond this world of lies which has each of us distracted.

At least this is my perspective and my path. Yours may be very different as everyone's path is unique. My perspective is only shared to help those on a similar path to mine.

Stay true to yourself and your path.

Enjoy your journey.

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Cos people are different, lunge in different environments, have different values and needs.
Gods are the manifested Will of Peoples.
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So groups of people create their own gods? Do you think that there is a God that is above all the human created gods?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84149868


Your thoughts can create things. If enough of the population believes in a made up god, then they give it their collective energies that can affect things in this reality.

Here is a thread that has some discussion on this topic and I am sure that there are other threads with similar topics.

Thread: Your Thoughts have Power: They can Create Entities or Transport You to Anywhere
 Quoting: danielbarzohar


Cos people are different, lunge in different environments, have different values and needs.
Gods are the manifested Will of Peoples.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72510462


So groups of people create their own gods? Do you think that there is a God that is above all the human created gods?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84149868


Your thoughts can create things. If enough of the population believes in a made up god, then they give it their collective energies that can affect things in this reality.

Here is a thread that has some discussion on this topic and I am sure that there are other threads with similar topics.

Thread: Your Thoughts have Power: They can Create Entities or Transport You to Anywhere
 Quoting: danielbarzohar


Thanks for the link to that thread. I will check it out.
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People look for God outside themselves rather than within.
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Exactly. Thanks for the comment!
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Thats a verse taken out of context.

Thread: Bible Study - Is The Kingdom of Heaven / Kingdom of God ONLY "Within You"?
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People look for God outside themselves rather than within.
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Exactly. Thanks for the comment!
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Thats a verse taken out of context.

Thread: Bible Study - Is The Kingdom of Heaven / Kingdom of God ONLY "Within You"?
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God is everywhere and you access Him within yourself through your spirit since God is spirit. I think the verse that the kingdom of God is within is instructing us to pray within our spirit and commune with God. It is not taken out of context and is a key verse in understanding how prayer is our spiritual conduit to God who is spirit.
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Salvation doesn't require 'wisdom' nor 'knowledge'.

It requires Repentence and Belief.

Thread: The Gospel - Basic Teachings of Jesus (amd Paul) for Salvation - KJV Bible Study

Thread: Paul Taught Repentance - Gospel - KJV Bible Study

Thread: Paul Taught the 10 Commandments - Gospel - Bible Study


Thread: ONE Gospel - FROM God - THRU Jesus - Taught by ALL of the Apostles - NOT Just Paul - Bible Study

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The Creator / Living God of the Bible spoke about reconciling the Gentiles back to Him many times in the Old Testament - and the entire New Testament is all about Salvation.

Gnostics reject that.

Which are you?
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Fair question.

Everyone's path is their own to walk. I grew up learning and studying the Bible which I continue to do. I agree with you on some things but disagree on other opinions related to biblical verses. The verses say what they say, but opinions on what that means causes disagreements in opinions.

In addition, we are dealing with translations of the original language and there have been many documented mistranslation simple because many that translate from original language did not originate from childhood speaking those languages. So there are lots of things lost putting the scripture into the English language.

Currently I study under an orthodox rabbi as I strive to understand what the verses in the original language more accurately say.

I agree that both the old testament and new testament spoke about reconciling the Gentiles back to a relationship with the Creator. This reconciliation involves a person's inward walk with the Creator as they make their way through life and learn what the Creator has for them. Jesus taught how to do that by words and deeds.

I don't label myself as it is not about any one group or religion. It is about a relationship with the Creator. It is about walking with the Creator through life as the Creator intended.

What ever path you are on, stay on it as you walk with the Creator. It is an amazing adventure of learning and growing.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

The idea that 'everyone is on their own path' is a New Age phrase used by people to justify their wandering AWAY from what the Bible teaches - simply because they refuse to acceopt many things that Father God - and even Jesus said - as recorded in the Bible manuscripts.

It starts with 'God can NOT really be like that' or something similar - and so they start looking for things that are 'more pleasant' to their ears.

Noah and the Flood are a perfect example. People like to claim God did a 'genocide' when He did the Flood - all the while ignoring the fact that 'all flesh had been corrupted' by the 200 Fallen angels.

Even many Christians try to say that angels didn't mate with humans because of what Jesus said, but they overlook the fact that the angels lost their 'heavenly countinance' once thay landed on earth for good.

This is the ONLY feasible way to explain all the stories and even stone carvings - of giants and odd looking creatures in many of the societies around the world.

The claim that 'all life is sacred' is a construct of humans who clearly don't understand that God's Creation had been tampered with, and He made the decision to cleanse it as much as possible with a worldwide Flood.

This Biblical event is just one that folks simple REFUSE to accept - and so they go looking to other places / sources for something that makes them 'feel good' - rather than accepting truth.

Jesus said the End Times would be like the Days of Noah.

Do a searh online for 'chimera research' and tell me that doesn't sound like DNA / genetic manipulation that happened because of the Fallern angels.
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People look for God outside themselves rather than within.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76258093

Exactly. Thanks for the comment!
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

Thats a verse taken out of context.

Thread: Bible Study - Is The Kingdom of Heaven / Kingdom of God ONLY "Within You"?
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


God is everywhere and you access Him within yourself through your spirit since God is spirit. I think the verse that the kingdom of God is within is instructing us to pray within our spirit and commune with God. It is not taken out of context and is a key verse in understanding how prayer is our spiritual conduit to God who is spirit.
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Ephesians 6:18
And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people.
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Salvation doesn't require 'wisdom' nor 'knowledge'.

It requires Repentence and Belief.

Thread: The Gospel - Basic Teachings of Jesus (amd Paul) for Salvation - KJV Bible Study

Thread: Paul Taught Repentance - Gospel - KJV Bible Study

Thread: Paul Taught the 10 Commandments - Gospel - Bible Study


Thread: ONE Gospel - FROM God - THRU Jesus - Taught by ALL of the Apostles - NOT Just Paul - Bible Study

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The Creator / Living God of the Bible spoke about reconciling the Gentiles back to Him many times in the Old Testament - and the entire New Testament is all about Salvation.

Gnostics reject that.

Which are you?
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Fair question.

Everyone's path is their own to walk. I grew up learning and studying the Bible which I continue to do. I agree with you on some things but disagree on other opinions related to biblical verses. The verses say what they say, but opinions on what that means causes disagreements in opinions.

In addition, we are dealing with translations of the original language and there have been many documented mistranslation simple because many that translate from original language did not originate from childhood speaking those languages. So there are lots of things lost putting the scripture into the English language.

Currently I study under an orthodox rabbi as I strive to understand what the verses in the original language more accurately say.

I agree that both the old testament and new testament spoke about reconciling the Gentiles back to a relationship with the Creator. This reconciliation involves a person's inward walk with the Creator as they make their way through life and learn what the Creator has for them. Jesus taught how to do that by words and deeds.

I don't label myself as it is not about any one group or religion. It is about a relationship with the Creator. It is about walking with the Creator through life as the Creator intended.

What ever path you are on, stay on it as you walk with the Creator. It is an amazing adventure of learning and growing.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

The idea that 'everyone is on their own path' is a New Age phrase used by people to justify their wandering AWAY from what the Bible teaches - simply because they refuse to acceopt many things that Father God - and even Jesus said - as recorded in the Bible manuscripts.

It starts with 'God can NOT really be like that' or something similar - and so they start looking for things that are 'more pleasant' to their ears.

Noah and the Flood are a perfect example. People like to claim God did a 'genocide' when He did the Flood - all the while ignoring the fact that 'all flesh had been corrupted' by the 200 Fallen angels.

Even many Christians try to say that angels didn't mate with humans because of what Jesus said, but they overlook the fact that the angels lost their 'heavenly countinance' once thay landed on earth for good.

This is the ONLY feasible way to explain all the stories and even stone carvings - of giants and odd looking creatures in many of the societies around the world.

The claim that 'all life is sacred' is a construct of humans who clearly don't understand that God's Creation had been tampered with, and He made the decision to cleanse it as much as possible with a worldwide Flood.

This Biblical event is just one that folks simple REFUSE to accept - and so they go looking to other places / sources for something that makes them 'feel good' - rather than accepting truth.

Jesus said the End Times would be like the Days of Noah.

Do a searh online for 'chimera research' and tell me that doesn't sound like DNA / genetic manipulation that happened because of the Fallern angels.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Just because walking your own path is a new age phrase does not mean it isn't true. Everyone's unique in their walk of faith with God. Only God knows what is best for each of us and we need to walk as one with God down our path.

Your argument is like saying prayer is a bad thing because pagans pray.
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Salvation doesn't require 'wisdom' nor 'knowledge'.

It requires Repentence and Belief.

Thread: The Gospel - Basic Teachings of Jesus (amd Paul) for Salvation - KJV Bible Study

Thread: Paul Taught Repentance - Gospel - KJV Bible Study

Thread: Paul Taught the 10 Commandments - Gospel - Bible Study


Thread: ONE Gospel - FROM God - THRU Jesus - Taught by ALL of the Apostles - NOT Just Paul - Bible Study

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The Creator / Living God of the Bible spoke about reconciling the Gentiles back to Him many times in the Old Testament - and the entire New Testament is all about Salvation.

Gnostics reject that.

Which are you?
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Fair question.

Everyone's path is their own to walk. I grew up learning and studying the Bible which I continue to do. I agree with you on some things but disagree on other opinions related to biblical verses. The verses say what they say, but opinions on what that means causes disagreements in opinions.

In addition, we are dealing with translations of the original language and there have been many documented mistranslation simple because many that translate from original language did not originate from childhood speaking those languages. So there are lots of things lost putting the scripture into the English language.

Currently I study under an orthodox rabbi as I strive to understand what the verses in the original language more accurately say.

I agree that both the old testament and new testament spoke about reconciling the Gentiles back to a relationship with the Creator. This reconciliation involves a person's inward walk with the Creator as they make their way through life and learn what the Creator has for them. Jesus taught how to do that by words and deeds.

I don't label myself as it is not about any one group or religion. It is about a relationship with the Creator. It is about walking with the Creator through life as the Creator intended.

What ever path you are on, stay on it as you walk with the Creator. It is an amazing adventure of learning and growing.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

The idea that 'everyone is on their own path' is a New Age phrase used by people to justify their wandering AWAY from what the Bible teaches - simply because they refuse to acceopt many things that Father God - and even Jesus said - as recorded in the Bible manuscripts.

It starts with 'God can NOT really be like that' or something similar - and so they start looking for things that are 'more pleasant' to their ears.

Noah and the Flood are a perfect example. People like to claim God did a 'genocide' when He did the Flood - all the while ignoring the fact that 'all flesh had been corrupted' by the 200 Fallen angels.

Even many Christians try to say that angels didn't mate with humans because of what Jesus said, but they overlook the fact that the angels lost their 'heavenly countinance' once thay landed on earth for good.

This is the ONLY feasible way to explain all the stories and even stone carvings - of giants and odd looking creatures in many of the societies around the world.

The claim that 'all life is sacred' is a construct of humans who clearly don't understand that God's Creation had been tampered with, and He made the decision to cleanse it as much as possible with a worldwide Flood.

This Biblical event is just one that folks simple REFUSE to accept - and so they go looking to other places / sources for something that makes them 'feel good' - rather than accepting truth.

Jesus said the End Times would be like the Days of Noah.

Do a searh online for 'chimera research' and tell me that doesn't sound like DNA / genetic manipulation that happened because of the Fallern angels.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


So you link me with New Agers and Gnostics because I use the words 'walk your own path with the Creator' and go within to find the kingdom of God. Walking with the Creator is right from the Bible as is going within to find the kingdom of God where the Creator resides.

Micah 6:8

He has told you, mortal one, what is good; And what does the Lord require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God?


Luke 17:20-21 it states “Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”

You seem intent on finding disagreement with others instead of agreement and common ground. That is not the road to peace and reconciliation that the Creator desires.

You may want to examine that approach since Jesus said in Matthew 5:9 "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God."
"Do only that, which would be acceptable to all mankind."
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Salvation doesn't require 'wisdom' nor 'knowledge'.

It requires Repentence and Belief.

Thread: The Gospel - Basic Teachings of Jesus (amd Paul) for Salvation - KJV Bible Study

Thread: Paul Taught Repentance - Gospel - KJV Bible Study

Thread: Paul Taught the 10 Commandments - Gospel - Bible Study


Thread: ONE Gospel - FROM God - THRU Jesus - Taught by ALL of the Apostles - NOT Just Paul - Bible Study

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The Creator / Living God of the Bible spoke about reconciling the Gentiles back to Him many times in the Old Testament - and the entire New Testament is all about Salvation.

Gnostics reject that.

Which are you?
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Fair question.

Everyone's path is their own to walk. I grew up learning and studying the Bible which I continue to do. I agree with you on some things but disagree on other opinions related to biblical verses. The verses say what they say, but opinions on what that means causes disagreements in opinions.

In addition, we are dealing with translations of the original language and there have been many documented mistranslation simple because many that translate from original language did not originate from childhood speaking those languages. So there are lots of things lost putting the scripture into the English language.

Currently I study under an orthodox rabbi as I strive to understand what the verses in the original language more accurately say.

I agree that both the old testament and new testament spoke about reconciling the Gentiles back to a relationship with the Creator. This reconciliation involves a person's inward walk with the Creator as they make their way through life and learn what the Creator has for them. Jesus taught how to do that by words and deeds.

I don't label myself as it is not about any one group or religion. It is about a relationship with the Creator. It is about walking with the Creator through life as the Creator intended.

What ever path you are on, stay on it as you walk with the Creator. It is an amazing adventure of learning and growing.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

The idea that 'everyone is on their own path' is a New Age phrase used by people to justify their wandering AWAY from what the Bible teaches - simply because they refuse to acceopt many things that Father God - and even Jesus said - as recorded in the Bible manuscripts.

It starts with 'God can NOT really be like that' or something similar - and so they start looking for things that are 'more pleasant' to their ears.

Noah and the Flood are a perfect example. People like to claim God did a 'genocide' when He did the Flood - all the while ignoring the fact that 'all flesh had been corrupted' by the 200 Fallen angels.

Even many Christians try to say that angels didn't mate with humans because of what Jesus said, but they overlook the fact that the angels lost their 'heavenly countinance' once thay landed on earth for good.

This is the ONLY feasible way to explain all the stories and even stone carvings - of giants and odd looking creatures in many of the societies around the world.

The claim that 'all life is sacred' is a construct of humans who clearly don't understand that God's Creation had been tampered with, and He made the decision to cleanse it as much as possible with a worldwide Flood.

This Biblical event is just one that folks simple REFUSE to accept - and so they go looking to other places / sources for something that makes them 'feel good' - rather than accepting truth.

Jesus said the End Times would be like the Days of Noah.

Do a searh online for 'chimera research' and tell me that doesn't sound like DNA / genetic manipulation that happened because of the Fallern angels.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Just because walking your own path is a new age phrase does not mean it isn't true. Everyone's unique in their walk of faith with God. Only God knows what is best for each of us and we need to walk as one with God down our path.

Your argument is like saying prayer is a bad thing because pagans pray.
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Thanks for your comments.
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Exactly. Thanks for the comment!
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Thats a verse taken out of context.

Thread: Bible Study - Is The Kingdom of Heaven / Kingdom of God ONLY "Within You"?
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


God is everywhere and you access Him within yourself through your spirit since God is spirit. I think the verse that the kingdom of God is within is instructing us to pray within our spirit and commune with God. It is not taken out of context and is a key verse in understanding how prayer is our spiritual conduit to God who is spirit.
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Ephesians 6:18
And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people.
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Prayer and meditation are composed of focused thinking with intent. Your thoughts have power to reach that which is within that connects to the Creator.
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Salvation doesn't require 'wisdom' nor 'knowledge'.

It requires Repentence and Belief.

Thread: The Gospel - Basic Teachings of Jesus (amd Paul) for Salvation - KJV Bible Study

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Thread: ONE Gospel - FROM God - THRU Jesus - Taught by ALL of the Apostles - NOT Just Paul - Bible Study

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The Creator / Living God of the Bible spoke about reconciling the Gentiles back to Him many times in the Old Testament - and the entire New Testament is all about Salvation.

Gnostics reject that.

Which are you?
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Fair question.

Everyone's path is their own to walk. I grew up learning and studying the Bible which I continue to do. I agree with you on some things but disagree on other opinions related to biblical verses. The verses say what they say, but opinions on what that means causes disagreements in opinions.

In addition, we are dealing with translations of the original language and there have been many documented mistranslation simple because many that translate from original language did not originate from childhood speaking those languages. So there are lots of things lost putting the scripture into the English language.

Currently I study under an orthodox rabbi as I strive to understand what the verses in the original language more accurately say.

I agree that both the old testament and new testament spoke about reconciling the Gentiles back to a relationship with the Creator. This reconciliation involves a person's inward walk with the Creator as they make their way through life and learn what the Creator has for them. Jesus taught how to do that by words and deeds.

I don't label myself as it is not about any one group or religion. It is about a relationship with the Creator. It is about walking with the Creator through life as the Creator intended.

What ever path you are on, stay on it as you walk with the Creator. It is an amazing adventure of learning and growing.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

The idea that 'everyone is on their own path' is a New Age phrase used by people to justify their wandering AWAY from what the Bible teaches - simply because they refuse to acceopt many things that Father God - and even Jesus said - as recorded in the Bible manuscripts.

It starts with 'God can NOT really be like that' or something similar - and so they start looking for things that are 'more pleasant' to their ears.

Noah and the Flood are a perfect example. People like to claim God did a 'genocide' when He did the Flood - all the while ignoring the fact that 'all flesh had been corrupted' by the 200 Fallen angels.

Even many Christians try to say that angels didn't mate with humans because of what Jesus said, but they overlook the fact that the angels lost their 'heavenly countinance' once thay landed on earth for good.

This is the ONLY feasible way to explain all the stories and even stone carvings - of giants and odd looking creatures in many of the societies around the world.

The claim that 'all life is sacred' is a construct of humans who clearly don't understand that God's Creation had been tampered with, and He made the decision to cleanse it as much as possible with a worldwide Flood.

This Biblical event is just one that folks simple REFUSE to accept - and so they go looking to other places / sources for something that makes them 'feel good' - rather than accepting truth.

Jesus said the End Times would be like the Days of Noah.

Do a searh online for 'chimera research' and tell me that doesn't sound like DNA / genetic manipulation that happened because of the Fallern angels.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

So you link me with New Agers and Gnostics because I use the words 'walk your own path with the Creator' and go within to find the kingdom of God. Walking with the Creator is right from the Bible as is going within to find the kingdom of God where the Creator resides.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

'Walking with God' doesn't mean 'walking your own path'.

Matthew 7

13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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The narrative is pushing lots of doom for the near future.

Use your thoughts and emotions to create a different reality.

Let go of the negative doom and embrace a positive world above duality where all are connected to each other and their Creator.

Make it so.
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Fair question.

Everyone's path is their own to walk. I grew up learning and studying the Bible which I continue to do. I agree with you on some things but disagree on other opinions related to biblical verses. The verses say what they say, but opinions on what that means causes disagreements in opinions.

In addition, we are dealing with translations of the original language and there have been many documented mistranslation simple because many that translate from original language did not originate from childhood speaking those languages. So there are lots of things lost putting the scripture into the English language.

Currently I study under an orthodox rabbi as I strive to understand what the verses in the original language more accurately say.

I agree that both the old testament and new testament spoke about reconciling the Gentiles back to a relationship with the Creator. This reconciliation involves a person's inward walk with the Creator as they make their way through life and learn what the Creator has for them. Jesus taught how to do that by words and deeds.

I don't label myself as it is not about any one group or religion. It is about a relationship with the Creator. It is about walking with the Creator through life as the Creator intended.

What ever path you are on, stay on it as you walk with the Creator. It is an amazing adventure of learning and growing.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

The idea that 'everyone is on their own path' is a New Age phrase used by people to justify their wandering AWAY from what the Bible teaches - simply because they refuse to acceopt many things that Father God - and even Jesus said - as recorded in the Bible manuscripts.

It starts with 'God can NOT really be like that' or something similar - and so they start looking for things that are 'more pleasant' to their ears.

Noah and the Flood are a perfect example. People like to claim God did a 'genocide' when He did the Flood - all the while ignoring the fact that 'all flesh had been corrupted' by the 200 Fallen angels.

Even many Christians try to say that angels didn't mate with humans because of what Jesus said, but they overlook the fact that the angels lost their 'heavenly countinance' once thay landed on earth for good.

This is the ONLY feasible way to explain all the stories and even stone carvings - of giants and odd looking creatures in many of the societies around the world.

The claim that 'all life is sacred' is a construct of humans who clearly don't understand that God's Creation had been tampered with, and He made the decision to cleanse it as much as possible with a worldwide Flood.

This Biblical event is just one that folks simple REFUSE to accept - and so they go looking to other places / sources for something that makes them 'feel good' - rather than accepting truth.

Jesus said the End Times would be like the Days of Noah.

Do a searh online for 'chimera research' and tell me that doesn't sound like DNA / genetic manipulation that happened because of the Fallern angels.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

So you link me with New Agers and Gnostics because I use the words 'walk your own path with the Creator' and go within to find the kingdom of God. Walking with the Creator is right from the Bible as is going within to find the kingdom of God where the Creator resides.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

'Walking with God' doesn't mean 'walking your own path'.

Matthew 7

13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


You are misquoting. I said to walk your own unique path with the Creator. Those that walk their own path separate from the Creator are walking blindly and will not find their way.
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OP, does servant of lord always post on your threads? How do you tolerate his dogmatism? He refuses to show agreement on anything and just criticizes what doesn't fit his opinion. He obviously has decided that he knows all and is the only truth.
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Yes, the Servant of the Lord usually finds my threads and posts on them.

He is welcome on my threads as it shows the dichotomy between the narrow gate verses the wide gate.

In Matthew 7:12-14 Jesus said:

12 “In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

13 “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.

14 For the gate is narrow and the way is constricted that leads to life, and there are few who find it."

Jesus also said in Luke 17:20-21:

“Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”


The narrow gate is going within to follow the Creator on your individual path instead of following the crowd. The narrow gate requires introspection, logic, intuition, and intense soul searching.

The wide gate is where most people gravitate to as it is following the herd instead of following your spiritual connection to the Creator. It is believing doctrines of men derived from scripture instead of experiencing the word of the Creator implanted into your very being.

The Servant of the Lord is true to his path as I am to mine. Those that resonate with the words of Servant of the Lord will stay on a similar path as his.

Those that resonate with the spiritual, intuitive path will find their own unique path.

Few will choose to leave their current path as they have already made their choice.

Blessings to all on whatever path you find yourself. I appreciate all who have read the posts and contributed their thoughts to this thread.
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It is officially Rosh Hashanah. Happy New Year! Time to merge energy to manifest a new world if the Creator allows.

Visualize, focus with passion, meditate and pray.

Make it so.
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According to Wikipedia (less than 50%), the biblical name for Rosh Hashanah is Yom Teruah, literally "day of shouting or blasting." It is the first of the Hebrews High Holy Days ("Days of Awe"), as specified by Leviticus 23:23–25, that occur in the late summer/early autumn of the Northern Hemisphere. The High Holy Days comprise both Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur.

The best-known ritual of Rosh Hashanah is the blowing of the shofar, a musical instrument made from an animal horn. The shofar is blown at various points during the Rosh Hashanah prayers, and it is customary in most communities to have a total of 100 blasts on each day.

While the blowing of the shofar is a Biblical statute, it is also a symbolic "wake-up call", stirring God's people to mend their ways and repent. The shofar blasts call out: "Sleepers, wake up from your slumber! Examine your ways and repent and remember your Creator.
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