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Why are there Different Perceptions of the Creator? Each has their own Perspective

 
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Why are there Different Perceptions of putin?
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Why are there Different Perceptions of putin?
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No God need be involved.
Just don't make anything up.
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First mistake was to set one name above all else
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Something as intelligent and powerful as "the" creator certainly does not care who "worships" him.
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Every person is the Puzzle of Creator, the entire existence and collective knowledge creates the entire picture. Because each is a puzzle piece only to the big picture each has different perspective of the image they are completing.
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Everybody has their own perception of EVERYTHING.

Just sayin.
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God said it best, “I AM”.

God’s ways are so simple, so clear and concise, man adds and adds, complicating things unnecessarily.

I asked God our Father one time about why there are so many different religious ideas about Him and the answer I received still fascinates me, “because the TRUTH can be found, but if man had one belief world wide and got it even partly wrong, which he would, then the absolute truth could never be”.

The person who studies God’s Word diligently and asks for guidance from our Lord will find God’s truth, like one who find's buried treasure.

Hope this helps.
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God said it best, “I AM”.

God’s ways are so simple, so clear and concise, man adds and adds, complicating things unnecessarily.

I asked God our Father one time about why there are so many different religious ideas about Him and the answer I received still fascinates me, “because the TRUTH can be found, but if man had one belief world wide and got it even partly wrong, which he would, then the absolute truth could never be”.

The person who studies God’s Word diligently and asks for guidance from our Lord will find God’s truth, like one who find's buried treasure.

Hope this helps.
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um, i don't think he's asking for help.... just a conversation of other people's perspectives.
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Our brain has 3 trillion neurons and each one of them can make
7 connections per second, above that every neuron has a 1000
memory digits.

Infinite possibilities and probabilities, that is why nobody
can have the same thought(s) about anything and that includes God.
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Both manifestations of "God" derive from the Creator/Source energy that comes from nothingness or void. Out of nothing came a divine thought that was nothing until it became something. Similar how humans think before speaking words from sounds. The thought arises to produce something more tangible.

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You're describing a paradox. Here is the fuller explanation regarding multiple paradoxes creating energy between them [link to www.logicalhierarchy.com (secure)]
Matthew 7:2 & 7:12 are a prophecy specific to you, "By the judgment that you judge, you will be judged. And by the measure that you measure, you will be measured.... Whatever you want a person to do to you, do also to them, for this is the law and the prophets."
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THERE'S NO CREATOR!
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PROVE IT
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God said it best, “I AM”.

God’s ways are so simple, so clear and concise, man adds and adds, complicating things unnecessarily.

I asked God our Father one time about why there are so many different religious ideas about Him and the answer I received still fascinates me, “because the TRUTH can be found, but if man had one belief world wide and got it even partly wrong, which he would, then the absolute truth could never be”.

The person who studies God’s Word diligently and asks for guidance from our Lord will find God’s truth, like one who find's buried treasure.

Hope this helps.
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um, i don't think he's asking for help.... just a conversation of other people's perspectives.
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Thanks for clarifying for me Indriya. Your comments are always welcome on my threads.

You are correct in that I was not asking for help. I was sharing my thoughts to help others on a similar path as mine. I also want everyone to move beyond simple belief and to experience the Creator. Each person needs to know the Creator instead of trying to define and/or describe the unknowable.

I was also encouraging others to share their perspective so that all of us could see more of the pieces of the puzzle that is being assembled.
"Do only that, which would be acceptable to all mankind."
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Thanks for the pin earlier today!
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Every person is the Puzzle of Creator, the entire existence and collective knowledge creates the entire picture. Because each is a puzzle piece only to the big picture each has different perspective of the image they are completing.
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Great observation. Thanks! Part of the journey is improving one's ability to see things through the perspective of others as it helps reveal more pieces to the puzzle.

Blessings.
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Define "Creator".
There's no "Creator" to begin with.

It's just that you Neanderthal skull can't understand nor accept things as they are, you make up phantasies in your mind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84201864

We have awareness that comes from an awareness beyond ourselves.

It is impossible to define the Creator, but a person can know that which is within themselves which is a part of the source that gave us awareness.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

Says who?

Jesus said Father God is a spirit.

Thread: Father God is Worshipped as Creator - Revelation 4:8-11 / Creation Bible Study
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Q. Why are there Different Perceptions of the Creator? Each has their own Perspective

A. Because there are 2 main groups of people.

1. Those who accept the God of the Bible as being the Creator.

2. Those who reject the God of the Bible.

There are subgroups of each but in the long run it won't matter.

Those who accept have a solid chance at Salvation.

Those who don't are destined to destruction unless they Repent and Believe.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Is it possible to know The God of the Bible without ever reading or coming across The Bible....
 Quoting: Tanoros

Only if God deems it to be so.

You calim to know 'the Creator' but do you really?

Thread: A "Voice" in Your Head"? ASK who It Is. Bible Study - Scripture About Spirits

.....

God speaks to humans.

The Bible records what He told various prophets in the first 4000+ years after Creation.

Thread: Father God DOES Speak to Humans - God's Voice - KJV Bible Study

...

The Bible has 'Lies'?

Show us ONE person, place or event from the Bible that didn't exist or never happened.

You can't. It's accurate history.

God...the Father..exists, as does His Son Yeshua.

The Bible covers 4000+ years of their interaction with mankind.

NOTHING you say will change these facts.

In reality, there is not one single shred of evidence OF ANY KIND that actually DISPROVES any of the vast majority of events in the Bible.

Dozens of people AND hundreds of places mentioned in the Bible have been proven to exist.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

It’s pretty simple actually, most of those in positions of power world wide are corrupted, institutions such as religions ones, are corrupted? Do you think Thr Bible has been left untouched?
 Quoting: Tanoros

Show us ONE person, place or event from the Bible that didn't exist or never happened.

You can't. It's accurate history.

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Just know the Hebie God and The Father Jesus claims are not the same God.

One is a very vain and is a jealous God, and the other is very humble and is willing to die for love.

Two very stark psychological differences, that many people don't seem to realize and confuse the two as the same.
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Thread: Father God is the "I AM' / God Almighty / Jehovah in Exodus. Not Jesus. Bible Study Scriptural Proof.

Thread: Son of God - Jesus' Relationship To The Father - John 17 and More - Bible Study
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Define "Creator".
There's no "Creator" to begin with.

It's just that you Neanderthal skull can't understand nor accept things as they are, you make up phantasies in your mind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84201864

We have awareness that comes from an awareness beyond ourselves.

It is impossible to define the Creator, but a person can know that which is within themselves which is a part of the source that gave us awareness.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

Says who?

Jesus said Father God is a spirit.

Thread: Father God is Worshipped as Creator - Revelation 4:8-11 / Creation Bible Study
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


The Creator manifests as spirit, but that is a very limited definition as the Creator is all that is, was, and will be. The Creator is beyond definitions and human understanding, but can be known through experience as you walk your path with your connection to your Source, for Spirit is energy that emanates from Source Creator.

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From my perspective, religion is man's attempt at reaching the Creator by following the scriptures and/or the teachings of men.

So I don't endorse or attack any religious group as they are sincere people trying to get to know the Creator.

There are many pieces to the puzzle that can only be learned by understanding the perspective of others.

Here is a short (2:22) video where a rabbi explains what it means to know the Creator. It is worth listening to in an effort to see another piece of the puzzle from a different perspective.

He who is wise learns from all.



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...

Is it possible to know The God of the Bible without ever reading or coming across The Bible....
 Quoting: Tanoros

Only if God deems it to be so.

You calim to know 'the Creator' but do you really?

Thread: A "Voice" in Your Head"? ASK who It Is. Bible Study - Scripture About Spirits

.....

God speaks to humans.

The Bible records what He told various prophets in the first 4000+ years after Creation.

Thread: Father God DOES Speak to Humans - God's Voice - KJV Bible Study

...

The Bible has 'Lies'?

Show us ONE person, place or event from the Bible that didn't exist or never happened.

You can't. It's accurate history.

God...the Father..exists, as does His Son Yeshua.

The Bible covers 4000+ years of their interaction with mankind.

NOTHING you say will change these facts.

In reality, there is not one single shred of evidence OF ANY KIND that actually DISPROVES any of the vast majority of events in the Bible.

Dozens of people AND hundreds of places mentioned in the Bible have been proven to exist.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

It’s pretty simple actually, most of those in positions of power world wide are corrupted, institutions such as religions ones, are corrupted? Do you think Thr Bible has been left untouched?
 Quoting: Tanoros

Show us ONE person, place or event from the Bible that didn't exist or never happened.

You can't. It's accurate history.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Your not considering what may have been left out, or changed. Just because places in the world exist that are mentioned in The Bible hardly makes the whole thing automatically correct. Mankind has corrupt people in many positions of power, including the Church. To think they wouldn’t manipulate it for their own ends is just silly. The truth is inside of everyone of us. We don’t have to be lucky to born in a Christian part of the world to know God, God is always with us, and God’s truth can always discovered and no literature is necessary. That’s the majesty of God. Freely available to all regardless of circumstance, that’s also true Love.

Besides ever hear of Tartaria? A country that can be proven to have existed, one that spanned the globe? If a place such as Tartaria can be whipped from history, the story we are told that is history, can be made to fit the Bible.

You take so much of your indoctrination as fact, believing much of what you were taught. From mouths of men, and the books of men, which are not only corrupted, but words, are so crude. How can you know which things you were taught are lies and which isn’t? And how can words accurately express that which is beyond words? They can’t. You will never know about that which I’m talking about unless you go and have the direct experience yourself. I implore you, go to the non physical, quiet place in your mind. Learn to be comfortable there, and enjoy that serenity. Then carry that serenity into your daily life. God talks to us in the most remarkable ways, and one doesn’t have to meditate to do so. God is always with us, it’s us that have to be opened to him.

Lastly, consider this. Satan the father of lies, what better lie than corrupting the concept of good and what good truly is. Humans want to be good, but what if they don’t know what it is, but think it to be something else, that isn’t good? Don’t underestimate the depth of the lies and deception. I once heard the saying early in my awakening, “everything you’ve ever known is a lie” it seemed drastic for sure, but there are a ton of lies, so I thought it a worthy, but over exaggerated saying. These days, I find myself believing that saying in it’s entirety. Until you experience something, I’d highly recommend questioning that thing at a minimum, don’t fall into believing what is comfortable or easy. Explore the non physical, you see what the rest of us have and you will know like those of us who have.

Good luck
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Only if God deems it to be so.

You calim to know 'the Creator' but do you really?

Thread: A "Voice" in Your Head"? ASK who It Is. Bible Study - Scripture About Spirits

.....

God speaks to humans.

The Bible records what He told various prophets in the first 4000+ years after Creation.

Thread: Father God DOES Speak to Humans - God's Voice - KJV Bible Study

...

The Bible has 'Lies'?

Show us ONE person, place or event from the Bible that didn't exist or never happened.

You can't. It's accurate history.

God...the Father..exists, as does His Son Yeshua.

The Bible covers 4000+ years of their interaction with mankind.

NOTHING you say will change these facts.

In reality, there is not one single shred of evidence OF ANY KIND that actually DISPROVES any of the vast majority of events in the Bible.

Dozens of people AND hundreds of places mentioned in the Bible have been proven to exist.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

It’s pretty simple actually, most of those in positions of power world wide are corrupted, institutions such as religions ones, are corrupted? Do you think Thr Bible has been left untouched?
 Quoting: Tanoros

Show us ONE person, place or event from the Bible that didn't exist or never happened.

You can't. It's accurate history.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Your not considering what may have been left out, or changed. Just because places in the world exist that are mentioned in The Bible hardly makes the whole thing automatically correct. Mankind has corrupt people in many positions of power, including the Church. To think they wouldn’t manipulate it for their own ends is just silly. The truth is inside of everyone of us. We don’t have to be lucky to born in a Christian part of the world to know God, God is always with us, and God’s truth can always discovered and no literature is necessary. That’s the majesty of God. Freely available to all regardless of circumstance, that’s also true Love.

Besides ever hear of Tartaria? A country that can be proven to have existed, one that spanned the globe? If a place such as Tartaria can be whipped from history, the story we are told that is history, can be made to fit the Bible.

You take so much of your indoctrination as fact, believing much of what you were taught. From mouths of men, and the books of men, which are not only corrupted, but words, are so crude. How can you know which things you were taught are lies and which isn’t? And how can words accurately express that which is beyond words? They can’t. You will never know about that which I’m talking about unless you go and have the direct experience yourself. I implore you, go to the non physical, quiet place in your mind. Learn to be comfortable there, and enjoy that serenity. Then carry that serenity into your daily life. God talks to us in the most remarkable ways, and one doesn’t have to meditate to do so. God is always with us, it’s us that have to be opened to him.

Lastly, consider this. Satan the father of lies, what better lie than corrupting the concept of good and what good truly is. Humans want to be good, but what if they don’t know what it is, but think it to be something else, that isn’t good? Don’t underestimate the depth of the lies and deception. I once heard the saying early in my awakening, “everything you’ve ever known is a lie” it seemed drastic for sure, but there are a ton of lies, so I thought it a worthy, but over exaggerated saying. These days, I find myself believing that saying in it’s entirety. Until you experience something, I’d highly recommend questioning that thing at a minimum, don’t fall into believing what is comfortable or easy. Explore the non physical, you see what the rest of us have and you will know like those of us who have.

Good luck
 Quoting: Tanoros


Thanks again Tanoros for your comments!

The Creator is part of each of us. To experience the Creator an individual can go within and strengthen the connection and allow the Creator's intuitive/spiritual guidance steer us to know ourselves and the Source of ourselves, the Creator.
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This is a world of lies controlled by the father of lies. Don't trust what is outside of yourself. It is all a distraction.

Instead go within to taste the one drop of yourself that represents the entire ocean that is your source.

The Kingdom is within you.
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Thanks for all the great posts on this thread!

For your enjoyment, here is a dream I had a while back.

The Gate Keeper of Babylon

Long ago there was a man, a simple man. He had lived his life well. His goal had always been to treat others right and view things from the perspectives of those that he encountered. He sought to understand the illusion that he lived in. The man heard of an ancient wise man that lived in a far away land. To get the the ancient one, the man had to cross a vast desert of brush and sand.

One day the man set out across the desert in search of the ancient one. A fierce wind storm came upon the man when he was in the middle of the desert. The man wrapped a black cloth over his face to protect his eyes from the biting sand particles that pelted his face. The fabric was just thin enough that the man could almost see through the veil.

Day after day the man trudged through the desert in the fierce wind and relentless pelting sand. One day the wind stopped, but the man had been so accustomed to the black cloth on his face that he did not even think to remove it so that he could see better, until the man saw a dark figure moving towards him. The man could not tell how or what the figure moving towards him was? So the man reached up and pulled the black cloth down across his nose to rest around his neck.

The figure approaching him appeared very old and was hunched over, wearing a hooded, black cloak. The old man spoke. "Ah, it is you. I knew that you were coming. Come and sit with me. I have something to reveal to you."

"Are you the ancient wise one that I seek?" The man asked the man that spoke.

"Indeed I am. Now come and sit on this flat rock so that I may show you who you really are." The old man replied.

The younger man sat on the flat boulder that the old man had motioned for him to sit upon. Then the old man pointed to a larger boulder to the man's right. "Turn to read the writing on the rock on your right side." The ancient one instructed.

The man scooted around on the flat rock to face a boulder twice his height. The side facing him was flat and had ancient petroglyphs carved into its' surface that were of a foreign tongue.

"What is that writing?" The younger man asked.

"It is who you are." The old man replied. "You are the Gate Keeper of the Seven Gates of Babylon. You are the king of Babylon, one who is called Hammurabi."

"Not so. Hammurabi lived ages ago." The young man replied. "I am a nobody. I have tried to live my life as best as I can and treat others right, but I am no king."

"Once a king, always a king, even though you played different roles in many different life times. It is time for you to arise and be king again. Go within yourself and seek the truth. You will find it there. The kingdom that you will be king of is within you. Now, take your throne and rule. Above all, use what you have learned and be a wise king."

The old man smiled, straightened his hunched back, and then vanished leaving the man sitting on the flat rock to ponder his words. Could it be that the illusion that the man lived in was his own illusion and that he was really the king who could control it? Maybe it was time to find out?
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...for Spirit is energy that emanates from Source Creator.
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Define "Creator".
There's no "Creator" to begin with.

It's just that you Neanderthal skull can't understand nor accept things as they are, you make up phantasies in your mind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84201864

We have awareness that comes from an awareness beyond ourselves.

It is impossible to define the Creator, but a person can know that which is within themselves which is a part of the source that gave us awareness.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

Says who?

Jesus said Father God is a spirit.

Thread: Father God is Worshipped as Creator - Revelation 4:8-11 / Creation Bible Study
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

The Creator manifests as spirit, but that is a very limited definition as the Creator is all that is, was, and will be.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

Says who?

You have NO proof.
You deny what Jesus said.

Gnostics just make shit up.

gaah

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We have awareness that comes from an awareness beyond ourselves.

It is impossible to define the Creator, but a person can know that which is within themselves which is a part of the source that gave us awareness.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

Says who?

Jesus said Father God is a spirit.

Thread: Father God is Worshipped as Creator - Revelation 4:8-11 / Creation Bible Study
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

The Creator manifests as spirit, but that is a very limited definition as the Creator is all that is, was, and will be.
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

Says who?

You have NO proof.
You deny what Jesus said.

Gnostics just make shit up.

gaah
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Jesus said in John 4:24

God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”


So the Creator is spirit. Exactly what is spirit?

In Isaiah 31:3 spirit is contrasted against flesh or physical. So from this verse one can conclude that spirit is non-physical.

Isaiah 31:3

Now the Egyptians are human and not God, And their horses are flesh and not spirit; So the Lord will stretch out His hand, And any helper will stumble, And one who is helped will fall. And all of them will come to an end together.


Most scientists have come to the conclusion that all in the universe is energy and energy is invisible until the vibrations slow to congeal and form physical matter.

A thought is energy and when articulated into spoken words takes the form of sound to convey the words and their meaning to those that hear the words.

Where does the thought come from? It comes from our very being, that is from our consciousness through the process of thinking.
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2 Peter 1 verse 20 - 21

But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture becomes a matter of someone’s own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.

Those that go within and connect to the Creator's spirit experience the creator's messages to them and KNOW truth. They experience truth from the Creator and need no physical proof.
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Re: Why are there Different Perceptions of the Creator? Each has their own Perspective
Most scientists have come to the conclusion...
 Quoting: danielbarzohar

'Most scientists' will falsely tell you that small amounts of various chemicals are not harmful to you if ingested.

Yet multi-millions of people are sick each year.

How much is caused by all those 'supposedly safe' chemicals???


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