Why are there Different Perceptions of the Creator? Each has their own Perspective

Seriously, you discredit a statement by stereotyping?

Those are different scientists than the Physicists. You shouldn't lump all scientists into the same group to discredit something based on a few. That is like saying all police are corrupt because some police are corrupt.

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'Stereotypes' don't make people sick.

Most scientists are atheists.

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'Knowledge is light'????

The knowledge to make an atomic bomb can end up creating a truly bright light - but it creates massive destruction.

You need to read up missy.

Thread: Knowledge Wisdom Truth and the Wise - KJV Bible Study

Salvation doesn't require 'secret' knowledge.

Period.

It is not secret knowledge, but knowledge acquired with a spiritual relationship with the Creator. Walking with the Creator is taught throughout the Bible as the natural path.

Jesus said "I and the Father are one” in John 10:30.

Micah 6:8 states: He has told you, mortal one, what is good; And what does the Lord require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God?

Genesis 5:22

Then Enoch walked with God three hundred years after he fathered Methuselah, and he fathered other sons and daughters.

Genesis 6:9

These are the records of the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation. Noah walked with God.

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I don't recall Ghaelon posting on this thread. Why did you bring his post over? Nothing was said about secret knowledge. The discussion was about connecting to the Creator's spirit for truth.

Thanks for pointing that out ac.

Interesting information on the "Secret" book of John.

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Excerpt less than 50 %:

The opening words of the Secret Book of John are, "The teaching of the saviour, and the revelation of the mysteries and the things hidden in silence, even these things which he taught John, his disciple." The author John is immediately specified as "John, the brother of James—who are the sons of Zebedee." The remainder of the book is a vision of spiritual realms and of the prior history of spiritual humanity.

There are four separate surviving manuscripts of "The Secret Book of John". One was purchased in Egypt in 1896 (the Berlin Codex) and three were found in the Nag Hammadi codices discovered in 1945. All date to the 4th century and are Coptic translations from Greek. Three appear to have been independently produced. Two of the four are similar enough that they probably were copied from a single source.

Although the different versions of the texts have minor variants (the Berlin Codex has many minor differences with Nag Hammadi II and IV), all texts generally agree on the assertion that the main revealing entity was Jesus.

Excerpt rom the Apocryphon of John (Less than 50%):

And I asked to know it, and he said to me, "The Monad is a monarchy with nothing above it. It is he who exists as God and Father of everything, the invisible One who is above everything, who exists as incorruption, which is in the pure light into which no eye can look.

"He is the invisible Spirit, of whom it is not right to think of him as a god, or something similar. For he is more than a god, since there is nothing above him, for no one lords it over him. For he does not exist in something inferior to him, since everything exists in him. For it is he who establishes himself. He is eternal, since he does not need anything. For he is total perfection. He did not lack anything, that he might be completed by it; rather he is always completely perfect in light. He is illimitable, since there is no one prior to him to set limits to him. He is unsearchable, since there exists no one prior to him to examine him. He is immeasurable, since there was no one prior to him to measure him. He is invisible, since no one saw him. He is eternal, since he exists eternally. He is ineffable, since no one was able to comprehend him to speak about him. He is unnameable, since there is no one prior to him to give him a name.

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What I've been interested in learning more, and having greater understanding is the feminine aspect of God Father. There is always masculine AND feminine energy in the act of creation. For example, *Father" comes up with the thought, or idea, and *Mother* nurtures, waters, loves and the thought/idea begins to grow.

Jesus spoke of Mother God in the Gospel of Thomas, believe it was. I remember when I first read thought i thought "DEMONIC!! NEW AGE BS" but now I have greater understanding and what exactly Jesus was talking about!

'coz that's what he does. Division and strife.....that's the goal of many posters.

It's relevent to 'gnostic thinking' which is based on the NEED for 'secret knowledge'.

This is a known fact - don't try to play it off.

'Division' started in the late 1st Century when former pagan Roman converts began getting rid of Messianic Hebrews.

All the early church writers spoke of their hatred for ALL of the Hebrews lineage.

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Father God SENT Jesus - only begotten SON OF God.

The congregation set up by Paul in Rome became a church with a bishop, just like dozens of others around the Mediterranean.

And ALL so-called early "popes" were basically nothing more than bishops, with no true authority over Christendom.

Only through subsequent Edicts did the church in Rome start claiming authority over the next several centuries.

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The Church gradually became a defining institution of the Roman Empire. Emperor Constantine issued the Edict of Milan in 313 proclaiming toleration for the Christian religion, and convoked the First Council of Nicaea in 325 whose Nicene Creed included belief in "one holy catholic and apostolic Church". Emperor Theodosius I made Nicene Christianity the state church of the Roman Empire with the Edict of Thessalonica of 380.

Through such "Edicts" Rome mixed pagan statues, beliefs etc...into the "church", turning the apostolic churches into a hiararchy / tradition-laden religion, just like fuck off had become.

The Waldensians LEFT the Rome area because of such.

The RCC truly didn't start grasping hold of the Catholic Empire until 445, when the emperor Valentinian III decreed that all western bishops must obey the pope.

Notice that BOTH Theodosius AND Valentinian III were EMPERORS.

NOT popes. Rome mere "back-dated" their line of popes, all the way to Peter.

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Finally, it's ironic that prior to Constantine's Edict of making Christianity "legal", Roman authorities spent the previous 290 years persecuting Christians.

In 385 CE the first Christians were beheaded for heresy in Trier/Germany the Spanish Priscillianus and six followers.

This began a centuries-long assualt on both pagans AND non-Catholics that lasted up until the 1700's.

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Roman leaders spent the entire 290+ years between Christ's death and Constantine's supposed vision in 312 AD persecuting and killing Christians.

They had NO control etc...of the network of Christian churches that had been in existence since the apostles had begun establishing them after Christ's ascension.

Rome merely assimilated them, beginning with the Council of Nicea.

And just because the RCC LISTS popes before then....

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....does NOT mean they were actually true Roman Catholic popes. Funny how pretty much ALL the supposed popes PRIOR to the proclamation of the Edict of Milan in 313 were killed.

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Killed by WHO?

Roman leaders.

God and His Son Jesus finally got fed up with the RCC, and initiated the Reformation, which led to each person reading the Bible and following Jesus and the Father, not human popes who tried to prevent those things.

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but,, but, but the bible is from rome. How can you dismiss rome while simultaneously embracing its teachings?

Also, division did not begin until the 1st century (as we know it) ????

That's silly! Duality began at the beginning of the bible. The tree of knowledge? Or the tree of life? Black or white? True or false? Left or right?

We live in a dualistic reality. Choose this, or that. No, division began long ago. Religion just keeps it going.

The purpose of this thread is discussion and sharing to learn more in order to put the pieces together and figure out the lies in our current reality.

The unveiling is in being implemented as people awaken to all the lies that we have been told.

Thanks for your comments!

Interesting video on simulation theory in the link below.

Thread: The evidence we are living in a Simulation is everywhere. All you have to do is look.

The Catholic Church didn't write nor "publish" the original Bible to the general public. It was meant for clergy only.

The bishops who gathered merely "chose" various books - at the Council of Rome in 382 - that were already the most popular in the various churches - then translated them into Latin - and printed them for use by CLERGY ONLY.

---AD 96 Clement Bishop of Rome quotes / refers to 11 books used for the New Testament including Matthew, Mark and Luke.

---AD 108 Ignatius Bishop of Antioch quotes / refers to 24 books used for the New Testament including all 4 Gospels.

---AD 110 Polycarp Bishop of Smyrna quotes / refers to 18 books used for the New Testament including all 4 Gospels.

About the only things that were "changed" were certain verses that support the "trinity", first mentioned by Theophilus of Antioch in the late 2nd century.

There's a reason why various old manuscripts of the various books of the New Testament, and even of the OT, have lasted 1900+ years.

Divine intervention.

Those manuscripts, at the least, have lasted through...

-the Roman wars in the Middle East of the 1st / 2nd Century
-the 200+ years of Roman persecution of Christians and Hebrews that began with Nero
-the "trinitarian" changes made to the Bible beginning around Tertullian's time
-the invasions / expansion of Islam that began after Muhammad's death in 632 AD

Not worth watching.
We don't live in a 'simulation'.
Free Will alone is proof.
Every second of your life you can make 'choices'.

Simulated holographic people don't bleed and die.

He who is wise learns from everything.

I found the video had some interesting points from physicists about the possibility that we are living in a simulation. It even had a portion that talked about the Mandela effect and I have personally experienced many Mandela effects in my own life.

How do you know that AI hasn't been developed and free will can and does exist in some simulations?

How do you know that holographic people don't bleed and die?

Everything that we experience in this reality is an interpretation of information through imperfect human senses. We don't experience anything directly and the brain can be fooled by hypnosis.

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This world of duality has always been about division. In the world to come, duality will be replaced by unity. All will know their connectivity to one another and the Creator.

Wow, you dismiss stuff without even investigating the video. That says a lot about your programming. You must be a NPC.

Prove to us that you are not a NPC. How does God guide you in Your life?

How do you know which ancient texts to believe when many of them have verification from archeology? Are older texts more trustworthy than newer ones? How accurate are translations of an ient texts into English?

OP, does servant of lord always post on your threads? How do you tolerate his dogmatism? He refuses to show agreement on anything and just criticizes what doesn't fit his opinion. He obviously has decided that he knows all and is the only truth.

Those that are anti-Godhead are unable to process Scripture (and thus Reality) past a certain point. They dumb the Bible down to their limited understanding of Life and expect everyone else to lower their I.Q. to match. People like that do more harm than good.

The Word of God is what manifests reality...

Hebrews 11:3
"Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."

The above verse is literally teaching that the Word of God acts as a Software Code generating our Universe...

Yes, the Servant of the Lord usually finds my threads and posts on them.

He is welcome on my threads as it shows the dichotomy between the narrow gate verses the wide gate.

In Matthew 7:12-14 Jesus said:

12 “In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

13 “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.

14 For the gate is narrow and the way is constricted that leads to life, and there are few who find it."

Jesus also said in Luke 17:20-21:

“Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”

The narrow gate is going within to follow the Creator on your individual path instead of following the crowd. The narrow gate requires introspection, logic, intuition, and intense soul searching.

The wide gate is where most people gravitate to as it is following the herd instead of following your spiritual connection to the Creator. It is believing doctrines of men derived from scripture instead of experiencing the word of the Creator implanted into your very being.

The Servant of the Lord is true to his path as I am to mine. Those that resonate with the words of Servant of the Lord will stay on a similar path as his.

Those that resonate with the spiritual, intuitive path will find their own unique path.

Few will choose to leave their current path as they have already made their choice.

Blessings to all on whatever path you find yourself. I appreciate all who have read the posts and contributed their thoughts to this thread.

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Says who?

Human philosophy?

Read Ecclesiastes in the Bible.

Solomon ended up leading the country into Idolatry.

Thread: Knowledge Wisdom Truth and the Wise - KJV Bible Study

No human is an 'NPC'. The term is a construct of a human fantasy.

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Show us ONE person, place or event from the Bible that didn't exist or never happened.

You can't. It's accurate history.

1. God told Noah to build an Ark because He was going to Flood the world.
- Marine fossils on dry land all over the world.

- The Bible says the Ark landed in Ararat. It's there.

Thread: Noah - The Ark and the Flood - Evidence Proof Bible History

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2. God told Abraham He would destroy Sodom etc...

- 5 sites in Israel have highly pure sulfur balls / brimstone.

Thread: Sodom Gomorrah Admah - Video & Photographic Evidence of Biblical Destruction Brimstone

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3. God led the Israelites to Mt Sinai.

- There's evidence there in Saudi Arabia.

Thread: Updated - New Videos / Evidence of the Biblical Exodus in Saudi Arabia - Hebrews / Mt Sinai More

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4. The Bible says Joshua builds an altar on Mt. Ebal.

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Joshua 8

30 Then Joshua built an altar unto the LORD God of Israel in mount Ebal,

31 As Moses the servant of the LORD commanded the children of Israel, as it is written in the book of the law of Moses, an altar of whole stones, over which no man hath lift up any iron: and they offered thereon burnt offerings unto the LORD, and sacrificed peace offerings.

The altar was excavated by Dr. Adam Zertal from 1982 - 1989.

Joshua's Altar Mount Ebal site - Wikipedia

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Adam Zertal - Wikipedia

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Various videos

"Joshua's Altar" "Adam Zertal"

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Are you saying that wisdom is not a good thing and should not be sought after?

Why would the Creator give Solomon wisdom then?

I Kings 4:29-30

29 Now God gave Solomon wisdom and very great discernment and breadth of mind, like the sand that is on the seashore.

30 Solomon’s wisdom surpassed the wisdom of all the people of the east and all the wisdom of Egypt.

Wisdom is a good thing. However, a person can still make poor decisions if they don't continue walking in the spirit with their Creator. It takes both wisdom and walking with the Creator not to err (sin) from the path.

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Now tell us about all the murder Christians have committed over the last 3000 years. Be specific.

No where does this show any proof of God. Lots of loosely thrown together historical artifacts and nonsense but zero proof of God.
It’s easy to write history after the fact to suit you’re needs.
Also, you seem to have an incredible inferiority complex about being a Christian and will go to the most idiotic lengths to try to convince not us, but most obviously you…