COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

Let’s set some groundwork... this virus is a CORONAVIRUS and it is NOT natural.

And then you must have missed the discussions about the chicken fuckup..... and it’s big. If they can’t make this vaccine because modern society failed.... odds of having chickens are pretty Fucking slim.

This chicken vaccine makes its virus more dangerous

Less than 50%

But a chicken virus that represents one of the deadliest germs in history breaks from this conventional wisdom, thanks to an inadvertent effect from a vaccine. Chickens vaccinated against Marek’s disease rarely get sick. But the vaccine does not prevent them from spreading Marek’s to unvaccinated birds.

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I think boosters will still come. The clots does seem to be in the young so over 50s it should be right.

They need that booster or the millions are going to suffer

Hello everyone,

Been checking this thread daily. I posted last week that all signs pointed to another surge, but no action being taken by the USA.

Michigan is in bad shape, but they aren't closing down.

Do we think this is going to be the protocol going forward? Will it get bad enough for them to shutdown again?

I can't wrap my head around the logic/agenda anymore. It's baffling.

It seems we were all a little off with timeframes...I would have thought the rest of the country would be in worse shape than it is currently.

Here in Texas, things are still 100% open, with no sign of uptick. Curious. What are your thoughts on this?

As some of you already know, I have my own selfish reasons for wanting another lockdown. Long story...don't judge me too harsh.

Any educated guesses on what the next weeks/months will bring?

Hope everyone is safe and well.

Millions are going to suffer with or without boosters.

We have yet to reach the dementia waves or cancers.

Minked.

Was feeling quite cheery till i seen that lol

Yah. It’s why I am cycling through the grief cycles again. I have to see any research that make me feel comfortable with long term life with this virus still circulating.

I'm well aware of Marek's, I have had chickens for many years. Vaccines behave differently in different organisms. We are talking humans.

I understand it's a CoV.

As for 'natural', that's a wonky term. Coronaviruses have been around a long damn time. There has been a vaccine for canine CoV for years, and it hasn't made things worse. The most reasonable explanation is that SARS2 is an escaped, failed attempt at a vax for HIV. Regardless whether it's natural or manipulated, it's still a virus.

My question stands, but, I'll be more specific. Name one human virus that has gotten worse with vaccination.

There are a lot of things to be worried about with COVID and SARS2, IMO, this is not one of them.

Exactly. Hopefully, the opposite is true. As we are fully vaccinated, the virus will dissipate as it appears to be doing in Israel.

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"The most reasonable explanation is that SARS2 is an escaped, failed attempt at a vax for HIV." Thats interesting, I have not heard that one before. Would you care to elaborate?

How long have they been almost overrun and running out of drugs!!!

Interestingly Dr Yeadon calls them Samiants as the variants are so close to the original in his opinion not to make any difference!

His concern is over safety and passports and boosters.

It's been a worry ever since the vaccine trials showed the vaccine doesn't have a high effectiveness in preventing infection when exposed to the virus. That's why the AC brought up the example of a non-sterilizing vaccine. The vaccines for covid are non-sterilizing which means they help to prevent symptoms from an acute infection but aren't good at stopping the infection itself. This is a worry because so long as the virus has a chance to infect, it will have a chance to mutate... and when it mutates the evidence we have is it can mutate into something more aggressive, pathogenic and has a better chance at immune evasion also.

It's not straightforward to make similarities between this virus others like those you mentioned because this is a coronavirus and the others are a different type of virus. One big difference is the vaccines that they use for those viruses very likely give people the sterilizing immunity which means people won't be getting infected after vaccination. Those viruses might also be naturally much slower to mutate, or mutations have a harder time surviving/being successful. SarsCov2 is not that kind of virus though, it is mutating quicker and the mutations are successful.

The other thing is the viruses you mentioned have been around for a couple thousand years. When a virus has been in a human population for that long there is not as much room available for the virus to evolve compared to the time when it first emerged.

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From cluster, cluster, boom

to boom, boom, tsunami



‘A tsunami of cases’: desperation as Covid second wave batters India

Dr K Senthil had feared it was coming.

He had feared it as he saw the reckless crush of hundreds of people taking part in large wedding parties over the past months, feared it as he saw the maskless faces of shoppers at the market, feared it as he witnessed thousands come together for political rallies in the ongoing elections in the Indian state of Tamil Nadu, where he is the president of the state medical council.

But despite his growing sense of foreboding, the second wave of coronavirus that began to engulf India last month has confounded even Senthil’s worst expectations.

“People became so complacent, acting as if the virus had vanished which was absurd,” said Senthil, who is a urologist in Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu.

“Now we are experiencing a wave of coronavirus infections that is far worse than the first and the magnitude of the spread is getting worse and worse. In Tamil Nadu it has taken just 15 days to reach the same level of cases in hospitals which was the peak last time. In the big cities in the state, the hospitals are already almost full.”

Over the weekend bodies piled up outside the government hospital in Raipur, in the state of Chhattisgarh, because the hospital had “not expected so many people to die at once” from coronavirus and could not cremate them fast enough. In Surat, in the state of Gujarat, crematoriums became so overwhelmed with coronavirus victims that families began burning their dead on open ground.

“This sheer tsunami of cases has already overwhelmed the healthcare infrastructure in the state,” said Dr Shashank Joshi, a member of the Mumbai Covid taskforce. “This time we are seeing younger people between 20 and 40 getting seriously affected and even children are now being hospitalised with severe symptoms. The capacity for the healthcare system to hold on is fast dwindling.”

Kshitij Thakur, a local politician in the Vasai-Virar municipality of Maharashtra, made a desperate public plea for help with an “acute” shortage of oxygen in the local government hospital, which had already led to the loss of three lives.

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This is such a perfect example of pure ignorance or malfeasance against the public.

If this doesn't get more people to figure out they are being utilized as a lab experiment we're for sure doomed.

https://twitter.com/_/status/1382391166386196482

I saw Texas cases started rising a bit in the past few days actually, so we'll see what happens.

The next wave already started, cases going up in most states, while many states are still waiting for their 'boom' moment. Michigan has had it, Minnesota is still in the process.

I don't think the current wave is going to be as strong as the winter one, but the asymptomatic infections could be larger due to the summer months, more people spending more time outside meaning the dose of infection you get is lower compared to inside. But if the fucky P1 variant gains a real foothoold then all bets are off...

Even if there is a terrible wave in the U.S. to the point where there SHOULD be lockdowns, I don't think there will be lockdowns again... because that would shatter the illusion that people are holding dear that the pandemic is nearly over. My two cents.

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Been having a bit of that today myself.

I left out yet. Ope.

Oh how the missed opportunity of Easter lackdown is going to hurt Germany. They are going to hell in a handbasket...

The reported infections dipped over the Easter holiday (lack of reporting), but the past couple of days has seen the surge resume.

https://twitter.com/_/status/1382411020535205890

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NY Post article on the younger attendees in intensive care in Brazil

https://twitter.com/_/status/1382460626581225474

More breakthrough cases in Washington post vax

https://twitter.com/_/status/1382462802468741120

Sure. About a year ago, give or take, it was reported that one of the things that the Wuhan lab was working on was a vax for HIV. They were using CoV as the building block for this HIV vax. This would explain why there were portions of the genetic sequence that may resemble HIV genetics. And would explain why SARS2 can cloak itself from T-cells, like HIV.

This research was partially funded by several 1st World Countries, including the US. Which is normal. The US funds and collaborates with labs all over the world. This, too is normal.

There is no big conspiracy here. It just looks to me like an accidental lab release.

Occam's Razor.

(As an aside, viruses make VERY BAD bioweapons. Even if you have a vax, once you release it in to the wild, it will mutate. Possibly around your vax. No major world power would use a virus as a first strike weapon. There are too many unknowns, and you could kill all your own troops in the process.)

Some granularity on the Indian numbers. Redbox India reporting over 200,000 cases.

https://twitter.com/_/status/1382380282725036035

Uttar Pradesh 20,439 North East bordering Nepal
Kanartaka 11,265 West Coast
Chhattisgarh 14,250 Central East

Not yet catching Maharashtra but not great signs increasing cases all over India now.

Influenza vax non-sterilizing. Tetanus vax. 2 examples. Both require boosters. Both have been around a long time. Influenza, even though vaxxed for, causes the majority of pandemics. New strains appear, not because of previous vaccinations, but because of natural selection.

Personally, I think the vax for COVID will do more harm from a psychological point of view, giving people a false sense of security. And, like flu, different strains will be affected by the vax differently. Pandemic-wise, we are a year, maybe 2 from anything resembling normal.

Nawty, that’s a pipe dream. Two years? Try decades. Even if we get spread under control.... those already infected have yet to get through the long term.

And the continued reduced birth rate is gonna bottle neck if we can’t fix that too.

More details from the meeting about J&J today.

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The halt is to be extended until the risk/benefit situation can be further assessed.

The amount of patients who were treated with heparin even though it’s harmful in this situation makes it really clear the halt was necessary.