Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor | |
darkwolf007
User ID: 77086694 United States 01/23/2019 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Continuation of another thread of wonderful people with the best ever ideas for practical prepping even for those with little money. Quoting: Pooka We'll also address the issues which may come up about "food stamps" and how to best manage without them, or with reduced amounts, or with partial box of food delivered with partial "food stamps". We address power outage, heating and cooking methods, first aid, we run disaster scenarios to see if we know what to do. This is probably the only prepping thread a person would need right now, whether long-time prepper here to share, or newbie prepper here to learn. Welcome!! Join us and learn and teach and enjoy!! This thread might be a good place for me to put down this idea, OP. While I was sitting on the toilet about ninety minutes ago as of this post I was reading through a Diabetes booklet I have. I was also thinking about the inevitable collapse of American society, and all of Humanity shortly after the collapse of America. I realized that insulin has a definite shelf life. I actually thought the stuff could remain in cold storage for decades and room temperature for months straight. Nope... turns out the stuff is only viable in the best of circumstances for normally less than a month's time. Only the "best of the best" insulin lasts up to close to eighty days in the best of circumstances. This means once the power grid is out, probably for months or years straight, Type 1 Diabetes are going to definitely die within about a month's time. Unless if there are a number of them who happen to have operational generators with the proper maintenance and fuel to last for years or longer and manage to secure a vast amount of insulin all Type 1 Diabetics will die within about a month's time. Type 2 Diabetics on the other hand will have a chance to eat healthier depending on where they're surviving and being willing to eat healthy foodstuff. I could of sworn I heard of a plant in another GLP thread that is a natural form of insulin. If this is true this would be absolutely essential for Type 1 Diabetics to grow as much and often as possible during the later Christian Apocalypse Events. Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
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Anymous Cowboy
User ID: 38517069 United States 01/23/2019 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Land Land is expensive, but wealthy land-holders need managers and keepers. Even if you are poor, you can often find a land holder that needs to hire some sort of care taker. Land will allow you to raise animals that can feed you or care for you. Land allows you close access to game, fish, foul. Land allows you to raise edible things from gardens, orchards, etc. Land (for the rich or the poor) is the answer. element.io/app --> @animus-eques:matrix.org |
Mental Case
User ID: 73370734 United Arab Emirates 01/23/2019 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOOHOOOO! I love it! :) Oil burns. You can take a skillet, pour a little oil (or shortening) in it. Twist up a few pieces of paper towel for wicks, drop in the oil and light. Poof, you have a burner to cook on. You need to use a skillet/pan with a lid so you can snuff out the fire when y'r done cooking. Last Edited by Mental Case on 01/23/2019 11:47 PM If I am going to be damned...I am going to be damned for who I really am! |
Pooka
(OP) User ID: 36721404 United States 01/23/2019 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Continuation of another thread of wonderful people with the best ever ideas for practical prepping even for those with little money. Quoting: Pooka We'll also address the issues which may come up about "food stamps" and how to best manage without them, or with reduced amounts, or with partial box of food delivered with partial "food stamps". We address power outage, heating and cooking methods, first aid, we run disaster scenarios to see if we know what to do. This is probably the only prepping thread a person would need right now, whether long-time prepper here to share, or newbie prepper here to learn. Welcome!! Join us and learn and teach and enjoy!! This thread might be a good place for me to put down this idea, OP. While I was sitting on the toilet about ninety minutes ago as of this post I was reading through a Diabetes booklet I have. I was also thinking about the inevitable collapse of American society, and all of Humanity shortly after the collapse of America. I realized that insulin has a definite shelf life. I actually thought the stuff could remain in cold storage for decades and room temperature for months straight. Nope... turns out the stuff is only viable in the best of circumstances for normally less than a month's time. Only the "best of the best" insulin lasts up to close to eighty days in the best of circumstances. This means once the power grid is out, probably for months or years straight, Type 1 Diabetes are going to definitely die within about a month's time. Unless if there are a number of them who happen to have operational generators with the proper maintenance and fuel to last for years or longer and manage to secure a vast amount of insulin all Type 1 Diabetics will die within about a month's time. Type 2 Diabetics on the other hand will have a chance to eat healthier depending on where they're surviving and being willing to eat healthy foodstuff. I could of sworn I heard of a plant in another GLP thread that is a natural form of insulin. If this is true this would be absolutely essential for Type 1 Diabetics to grow as much and often as possible during the later Christian Apocalypse Events. Dark Wolf, it's horribly true that diabetics will die without insulin. I vaguely recall a post similar to what you mention, about a plant. Also a few years ago I found a different plant while researching for a friend whose grandmother had diabetes. There has to be a way - let's find it! Thank you for posting this - we don't know how many people on GLP have diabetes, and far more in their families. This is crucial information! Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
Anymous Cowboy
User ID: 38517069 United States 01/23/2019 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...once the power grid is out, probably for months or years straight, Type 1 Diabetes are going to definitely die within about a month's time [...] I could of sworn I heard of a plant in another GLP thread that is a natural form of insulin. Quoting: darkwolf007 Research the effects of keto type diets on diabetes, and also the strong correlation of liver and pancreatic parasites to all types of sugar regulation problems. Last Edited by Anymous Cowboy on 01/23/2019 11:48 PM element.io/app --> @animus-eques:matrix.org |
Pooka
(OP) User ID: 36721404 United States 01/23/2019 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOOHOOOO! I love it! :) Quoting: Mental Case Oil burns. You can take a skillet, pout a little oil (or shortening) in it. Twist up a few pieces of paper towel for wicks, drop in the oil and light. Poof, you have a burner to cook on. You need to use a skillet/pan with a lid so you can snuff out the fire when y'r done cooking. Sounds like a great idea! Would you need a rack that fits the "burner" pan to hold up another pan to cook in? Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
darkwolf007
User ID: 77086694 United States 01/23/2019 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOOHOOOO! I love it! :) Quoting: Mental Case Oil burns. You can take a skillet, pout a little oil (or shortening) in it. Twist up a few pieces of paper towel for wicks, drop in the oil and light. Poof, you have a burner to cook on. You need to use a skillet/pan with a lid so you can snuff out the fire when y'r done cooking. I believe one of my sisters, the one who went into the Army, over a decade ago, she told the rest of our family how soldiers in the field are supposed to heat up their MREs. There's a chemical mixture that is to mixed together that produces a strong exothermic reaction. Not exactly enough to severely burn a human, but enough to quickly heat up a MRE's contents so you're not eating up to ice cold MREs potentially out in the middle of nowhere. Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
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darkwolf007
User ID: 77086694 United States 01/23/2019 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Best 'prep' anyone can do is to conduct the necessary inner-work to make peace with one's inevitable physical death (regardless of how it comes, since it's coming)... Quoting: WOLF* True, WOLF*, but not all of us are willing to roll over and hope to God our physical deaths are as painless and quick as possible. Some of us prefer to die in battle as a proud warrior rather than to roll over and die. Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
Anymous Cowboy
User ID: 38517069 United States 01/23/2019 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Best 'prep' anyone can do is to conduct the necessary inner-work to make peace with one's inevitable physical death (regardless of how it comes, since it's coming)... Quoting: WOLF* I agree. This opens so many doorways to answers you didn't think were possible to find. element.io/app --> @animus-eques:matrix.org |
Mental Case
User ID: 73370734 United Arab Emirates 01/23/2019 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like a great idea! Would you need a rack that fits the "burner" pan to hold up another pan to cook in? ------- Yup, you'd need something. I was thinking maybe bricks on either side of the burner pan to hold up the food pan. Probably a million different ways of doing that. If I am going to be damned...I am going to be damned for who I really am! |
Pooka
(OP) User ID: 36721404 United States 01/23/2019 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOOHOOOO! I love it! :) Quoting: Mental Case Oil burns. You can take a skillet, pout a little oil (or shortening) in it. Twist up a few pieces of paper towel for wicks, drop in the oil and light. Poof, you have a burner to cook on. You need to use a skillet/pan with a lid so you can snuff out the fire when y'r done cooking. I believe one of my sisters, the one who went into the Army, over a decade ago, she told the rest of our family how soldiers in the field are supposed to heat up their MREs. There's a chemical mixture that is to mixed together that produces a strong exothermic reaction. Not exactly enough to severely burn a human, but enough to quickly heat up a MRE's contents so you're not eating up to ice cold MREs potentially out in the middle of nowhere. Is this something available to the public? Or is it only in MREs we'd have to get from an Army/Navy store? I once found bags that will heat a can of food - can't even remember where I got them. Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
Pooka
(OP) User ID: 36721404 United States 01/23/2019 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Best 'prep' anyone can do is to conduct the necessary inner-work to make peace with one's inevitable physical death (regardless of how it comes, since it's coming)... Quoting: WOLF* True, WOLF*, but not all of us are willing to roll over and hope to God our physical deaths are as painless and quick as possible. Some of us prefer to die in battle as a proud warrior rather than to roll over and die. Or at least be alive long enough to help those who can fight, if you can't. I won't just lay down and give up. Isn't in me to do. Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
Mental Case
User ID: 73370734 United Arab Emirates 01/23/2019 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | -------- Agreed. But I can do both at the same time. And in the mean-time I'd like to avoid the physical suffering of hunger or thirst until I croak. If I am going to be damned...I am going to be damned for who I really am! |
Pooka
(OP) User ID: 36721404 United States 01/23/2019 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Best 'prep' anyone can do is to conduct the necessary inner-work to make peace with one's inevitable physical death (regardless of how it comes, since it's coming)... Quoting: WOLF* We are glad that you have found the answer for yourself. Good job! Most of us, however, wish to go on as long as possible, and this thread is for that purpose, not for spiritual or psychic preparedness. Many of us are Christians, and the Lord doesn't allow us to suicide, even passively. Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76130176 Japan 01/23/2019 11:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Best 'prep' anyone can do is to conduct the necessary inner-work to make peace with one's inevitable physical death (regardless of how it comes, since it's coming)... Quoting: WOLF* True, WOLF*, but not all of us are willing to roll over and hope to God our physical deaths are as painless and quick as possible. Some of us prefer to die in battle as a proud warrior rather than to roll over and die. The people who are really scared of dying are going to be the ones willing to harm/kill others in order to extend their physical survival... That will not be me.... |
Mental Case
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Pooka
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Pooka
(OP) User ID: 36721404 United States 01/23/2019 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Happy to see you all! Last Edited by Pooka on 01/26/2019 06:40 AM Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
Pooka
(OP) User ID: 36721404 United States 01/24/2019 12:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great idea! Especially if you have like a New York or Fort Lauderdale phone book!! Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
Jake
User ID: 76890717 United States 01/24/2019 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bulk flour, rice and oil at costco or sams club buy 50 to 100 lb bags for very cheap. like 12-18 dollars some dried and powdered soups and gravy's as well dried beans too Just the basics but you will survive Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 01/24/2019 12:03 AM Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Mental Case
User ID: 73370734 United Arab Emirates 01/24/2019 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe we should start off with food and water. That's usually the beginning of prepping. Food can be very inexpensive if you focus on staples (dry pasta, dry rice, salt). Water, I would suggest water containers and store tap water. As far as the most inexpensive method is concerned. If I am going to be damned...I am going to be damned for who I really am! |
Anymous Cowboy
User ID: 38517069 United States 01/24/2019 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know most people don't want to hear this but, Cotton cloths > used as TP > wash with bleach & soap > repeat You can do this with no electricity using a plunge washer and a wringer. [link to www.frugallivingnw.com (secure)] [link to lifehacker.com (secure)] Last Edited by Anymous Cowboy on 01/24/2019 12:06 AM element.io/app --> @animus-eques:matrix.org |
Pooka
(OP) User ID: 36721404 United States 01/24/2019 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bulk flour, rice and oil at costco or sams club Quoting: Jake buy 50 to 100 lb bags for very cheap. Just the basics but you will survive Nice! Maybe a bag of beans, too? Rice and beans together make a complete protein. On a video earlier they pointed out how easy to make tortillas with a little flour and oil. Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
Jake
User ID: 76890717 United States 01/24/2019 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bulk flour, rice and oil at costco or sams club Quoting: Jake buy 50 to 100 lb bags for very cheap. Just the basics but you will survive Nice! Maybe a bag of beans, too? Rice and beans together make a complete protein. On a video earlier they pointed out how easy to make tortillas with a little flour and oil. I think I paid $12 for 80 lb bags of Pizza or bread flour Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Pooka
(OP) User ID: 36721404 United States 01/24/2019 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know most people don't want to hear this but, Cotton clothes > used as TP > wash with bleach & soap > repeat You can do this with no electricity using a plunge washer and a wringer. [link to www.frugallivingnw.com (secure)] [link to lifehacker.com (secure)] That's a possibility! Women used to use cloths the same way for feminine needs. Costco has huge pkgs of bathroom tissue for not very much. Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
Pooka
(OP) User ID: 36721404 United States 01/24/2019 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bulk flour, rice and oil at costco or sams club Quoting: Jake buy 50 to 100 lb bags for very cheap. Just the basics but you will survive Nice! Maybe a bag of beans, too? Rice and beans together make a complete protein. On a video earlier they pointed out how easy to make tortillas with a little flour and oil. I think I paid $12 for 80 lb bags of Pizza or bread flour That's an incredible price! How did you store it to keep bugs out? Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
Jake
User ID: 76890717 United States 01/24/2019 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bulk flour, rice and oil at costco or sams club Quoting: Jake buy 50 to 100 lb bags for very cheap. Just the basics but you will survive Nice! Maybe a bag of beans, too? Rice and beans together make a complete protein. On a video earlier they pointed out how easy to make tortillas with a little flour and oil. I think I paid $12 for 80 lb bags of Pizza or bread flour That's an incredible price! How did you store it to keep bugs out? I get giant ziploc vacuum bags on the internet Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |