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What is the freaking deal with human longing?

 
eagle's heart/aurora

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Remember, everything you love in life you will lose. Everything. Worldly desire is a dead end.

There is no way out, but there is one way home.
 Quoting: Lord of the Sheeple


You lie. You want everyone to despair and lose hope and think everyone is against them and people need to only look within and remain alone because everything else is fleeting, but to think like that is to be the true energy vampire, the true destroyer of faith and hope.

Love is never lost and never ends. You lie. Love is never lost.
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Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting:
The Soul that rises with us, our life's Star,
Hath had elsewhere its setting,
And cometh from afar:
Not in entire forgetfulness,
And not in utter nakedness,
But trailing clouds of glory do we come
From God, who is our home:
Heaven lies about us in our infancy!
Shades of the prison-house begin to close
Upon the growing Boy,
But he beholds the light, and whence it flows,
He sees it in his joy;
The Youth, who daily farther from the east
Must travel, still is Nature's priest,
And by the vision splendid
Is on his way attended; 75
At length the Man perceives it die away,
And fade into the light of common day.

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Wonderful poem, reminded me of this song.

"When the end shines from the deep
and all the hate and all the hell
that history has released
will tremble before your valor
if you just get down on your knees
and promise to all your children true
that you will live in peace.
Where's the light to shine on me?
Oh send me something,
send me please.
Cleanse my body.
Close my eyes.
Naked and prepared to die.
In the starry atmosphere
when all the questions disappear.
And pressure with a salty taste,
exalts the tears that soak your face."
 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


I love poesy.

There once was a girl from Bermuda,
Who fell for a guy named MacGruder,
She thought she'd be shrewd,
and swim in the nude,
But MacGruder was shrewder and screwed her.
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Utmost Deplorable Publican.  (OP)

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I'm driving on a long haul right now but I'm very thrilled to read all the amazing replies and appreciate this deep and introspective conversation. Be blessed!
 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


Dude, somewhere there is a box with your name on it filled with stuff you and I talked about privately that you needed. At this rate you should get it sometime when you're about forty lol. Dunno how many times you moved but package tracking lost sight of it. Could be it was opened at the homeless shelter and contents dispersed after you left.

Anyway, glad to hear things look much brighter for you and I wish you all the best. God bless. hugs
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Will we ever find enough?

Maybe that's what we are here to learn/experience/figure out.

I am quite content with what I have...my brother has many multiples of what I have & it will never be enough for him.

More than anything else, I truely love/enjoy fishing! I'm always after a bigger fish than I had ever caught before.

But NOTHING gave me more satisfaction and gratification than to hook that elusive MONSTER tiger-muskie & hand the rod to my 10 year old nephew! :)

It took him about 25 minutes to land the thing.

You should have seen it! I held the fish up for a pic & it was almost as tall as my nephew...then we threw him back.

As of this day, I still have not caught a fish that big...and I don't regret it or a second!
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"Desire" is one of the (many) energies created by the friction that is inherent in the machinery of our embodied mind and personality. Different people express different frictions. Right now, astrologically speaking, Jupiter is 90deg square to Pluto, so This question about desire is right on point. IT's a paradox of humanity and it causes things to be felt and actions to be taken.
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Longing is coveting. Coveting is a grave sin:


10th Commandment

Ex. 20:17
You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male servant, or his female servant, or his ox, or his donkey, or anything that is your neighbor’s.




David coveted Bathsheba. Ahab coveted Naboth’s vineyard. The result? Sin and murder.
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Remember, everything you love in life you will lose. Everything. Worldly desire is a dead end.

There is no way out, but there is one way home.
 Quoting: Lord of the Sheeple


You lie. You want everyone to despair and lose hope and think everyone is against them and people need to only look within and remain alone because everything else is fleeting, but to think like that is to be the true energy vampire, the true destroyer of faith and hope.

Love is never lost and never ends. You lie. Love is never lost.
 Quoting: eagle's heart/aurora


Say what? What I said is absolutely true and in line with the teachings of Jesus Christ. This world's treasures are illusions. You should hope, but place that hope in the right place.
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Is this hell?

 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


No this is a prison, a simulated prison, we live a lot longer than our current life span, we are sent in this crappy simulation to do our time because we fucked up, how your life is in the simulation depends on what crime you did. Other wealthy people are part of the simulation to piss you off and make you unhappy, criminals of all kinds are simulations to scare you. The earlier you die the shorter your sentence was.

Lol actually that would make a great ending for a movie !

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Longing is coveting. Coveting is a grave sin:


10th Commandment

Ex. 20:17
You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male servant, or his female servant, or his ox, or his donkey, or anything that is your neighbor’s.




David coveted Bathsheba. Ahab coveted Naboth’s vineyard. The result? Sin and murder.
 Quoting: Elegant Walnut

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Where is home o p?
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"Everything has already died.
This is the other world."
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What you are defining as "human longing" (or what TH White defines) is not "longing" at all, but rather self-pity....


Gonna live in this world on the basis of self-will? Then sorrow and disappointment will be your lot.

Choose to identify with the chaos and sickness others choose to live their lives by? IE, "popular" authors, film, and songs... Then you bind your life to the suffering others have induced and made profit from under guise of "art" or literature.


The idea of romantic love has been very corrupted. The more introverted and perverted one is, the more they are likely to attract the same. Self-willed persons don't sacrifice or seek to understand others, much less live comfortably with others.


Alienation from God causes despair, pain, and mental health aberrations.


The world is not aligned with God. Men have free-will and for the decades since WW-1 have been conditioned towards greater alienation in most art & literature. Sickness and perversion has been fostered and foisted upon Western Society as "the norm" and condition of living on the plane of fashion and normality to be strived for.


The so-called "mental-health sciences" attract sick minds who seek their own understanding, but alienated from God themselves, they perpetrate sickness and perversion as norms by endorsing acceptance and diversity. In a world with no values or love for others, there can be no love for self; much less Love For God or others.


The human condition driven by self-will and fear is caused by alienation from God. Men choose to deny God and seek satisfactions defined by others. They are surprised and feel betrayed when they don't find what they expect.


It is self that betrays us and brings misery on so many levels.

If you would live in happiness and with confidence, turn to God!
 Quoting: Lester 73493212


I choose to deny there is the possibility of the knowledge of god from those who are alive in this reality. I would describe myself as a very content and maybe even 'happy' person.

When others try to explain the events of this world by claiming direct influence from either the devil or god, I get pissed at such brainwashing. That would suggest that I am an agent of evil, no?

How do you explain my lack of misery?
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Denial don't make reality go away.

If you can't even state that you are "happy" on a longterm basis, then what you have is a dysfunction.

What you "believe" don't matter... evil in this world does seek to serve satan. The bankers of Wall St. and City of London who funded the Russian Revolution which led to over 50 million deaths in E. Europe, Spain, and another 85 million in China and 2 million in Cambodia... Can you identify them as evil men seeking profit by murdering the richest man in the world, the Czar? They put up the money that let the djini out of the bottle.

Murder is plainly evil, and murder for profit the most evil of all...


Nice of you to reply. There are no atheists in foxholes... If you ever Loved God with a True Heart, even if only as a child, HE will not allow you to be lost.

Your life can be what you choose to allow, or it can be aligned with and given Unto God. In my experience, Being Aligned With and Guided By HIS Holy Spirit is more fulfilling than I ever hoped for.
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It seems so few of us can ever truly get any satisfaction.

May God bless those lucky few who find it.


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Thank you...

Indeed he has blessed me.

Extensive prayer to him, he's eliminated my need for human companionship, the desire for relationships for women, the desire for sex, the desire for large sums of money, and the desire to fit into a world which I don't belong.

Now, I'm patiently waiting for it to all be over so I can get out of this world, and onto a dimension where I would do much better.

I'm convinced, some of us incarnate into this realm not for the benefit of ourselves, but for the benefit of others. 

I sure wish the rest of you would get your shit together, you're bringing me down and keeping me here.
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"Everything has already died.
This is the other world."
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Life is such unutterable hell, solely because it is sometimes beautiful. If we could only be miserable all the time, if there could be no such things as love or beauty or faith or hope, if I could be absolutely certain that my love would never be returned: how much more simple life would be. One could plod through the Siberian salt mines of existence without being bothered about happiness. Unfortunately the happiness is there. There is always the chance (about eight hundred and fifty to one) that another heart will come to mine. I can't help hoping, and keeping faith, and loving beauty. Quite frequently I am not so miserable as it would be wise to be.” - T. H. White

Why do we crave that which will destroy us (e.g. as an addict)? Why do we long for that which we cannot have (e.g. unrequited love)? Why do we long to become a better version of ourselves but can’t ever reach satisfaction or a state of contentedness with who we are? Why is love, even self love, beyond the grasp of so many of us tortured souls?

Is this hell?

The Buddha says desire leads to suffering and that is all we do from the moment we enter this realm. Desire without cease. And even the Bible says desire leads to sin and sin leads to death. We sin because we desire. We die because we desire. We live only to desire and to desire more and more.

What a twisted web we weave as human beings.

Will we ever find enough?


 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


I don't have the answers to your questions. The one thing I come away with when I ponder these things is "Why do we feel all this love? And, the sometimes pain from when love is not enough (lovers lost, family and friends lost to death)? If all the fallout from love lost and death is for nothing, the life means nothing. I can't buy that. Just due to all I mentioned above. It has to mean *something*. What that is, I will not profess to know. I just know what I feel and what I feel is that this will all mean something in the long run.

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It seems so few of us can ever truly get any satisfaction.

May God bless those lucky few who find it.


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Yes to the few who live it and breathe it in..

Agape Love IS an action word the kind that is acted upon in the Spirit of Truth..

It IS the balance seemlessly and effortlessly creating and mulitiplying in both the spirit and flesh..

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Oddly enough I am somewhat content now. I definitely was born to walk alone as the song says. Since I've had enough loss for several lifetimes I've embraced the aloneness.
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There are people who are very satisfied with the little they have and having time to become. I've been like that for most of my life.

It comes with appreciating what you have and understanding that you don't need more to be happy. It comes with loving and appreciating yourself and looking forward to the self you will create in the future.

Before you can do this, you will need to read every word of what I said above very carefully, then seek to really understand each concept I've described. -Or you can read what other people like me have written.
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I get it. Been suffering for years, basically all my "little" problems added up (headaches/migraines/various pain/discomfort/OCD/bad constpipation/depression/inability to feel "anthing" good). I'll feel shit for ages and finally get used to it and able to tolerate it enough to shrug it off and just "get on with things." Then BOOM as if by magic I'll randomly have a good day (for seemingly NO REASON) and just like that my tolerance resets and it'sack to suffering again.
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It's a trick

There is so much energy in pain to be sucked off.

We are animals in intensive farming factories.

The only ones interested on us are the entities who suck off our life.

We are lured to make an extra mile and then we get another kick in the head.
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Out of all the concepts I've studied about this fucked up existence combined with my own personal experience, this seems to be the only thing that makes sense.
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Perhaps it is your love of self that intensifies the stark contrast between your drive for your desires verses not having your desires?

I don't speak with a judgmental heart! I ponder the very same for myself!

I believe passion can be crippling!

Perhaps it is why Jesus taught us that if we'll lose our lives for His sake, we'll find it, yet if we seek to save our lives...we will lose it!

Always frittering to and fro, from one thing to another hoping to find something...anything, besides God, to fulfill our passions on our terms because we want what we want when we want it!

So...if we are losing...or, "not finding", perhaps it is because we are seeking to save our lives on our own passionate terms!

I know that many that believe themselves followers of Christ, are, in truth, not followers of Christ because they refuse to lose their lives for His sake! Such people lack fidelity and will turn to any other "god" that offers promises of fulfillment!

There is only One True and Living God and we do well to lose our lives for His sake, for, that's how we find it!

There is no other way that leads to fulfillment!
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"Everything has already died.
This is the other world."
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THE KNEE OF LISTENING

The Life and Understanding

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By Franklin Jones

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Epilogue: The Man of Understanding

The man of understanding is not entranced. He is not elsewhere. He is not having an experience. He is not passionless and inoffensive. He is awake. He is present. He knows no obstruction in the form of mind, identity, differentiation and desire. He uses mind, identity, differentiation and desire. He is passionate. His quality is an offense to those who are entranced, elsewhere, contained in the mechanics of experience, asleep, living as various forms of identity, separation and dependence. He is acceptable only to those who understand.

He may appear no different from any other man. How could he appear otherwise? There is nothing by which to appear except the qualities of life. He may appear to have learned nothing. He may seem to be addicted to every kind of foolishness and error. How could it be otherwise? Understanding is not a different communication than the ordinary. There is only the ordinary. There is no special and exclusive communication that is the truth. There is no exclusive state of truth. But there is the understanding of the ordinary.

Therefore, the man of understanding cannot be found. He cannot be followed. He can only be understood as the ordinary. He is not spiritual. He is not religious. He is not philosophical. He is not moral. He is not fastidious, lean and lawful. He always appears to be the opposite of what you are.

He always seems to sympathize with what you deny. Therefore, at times and over time he appears as every kind of persuasion. He is not consistent. He has no image. At times he denies. At times he asserts. At times he asserts what he has already denied. At times he denies what he has already asserted. He is not useful. His teaching is every kind of nonsense. His wisdom is vanished. Altogether, that is his wisdom.

At last he represents no truth at all. Therefore, his living coaxes everyone only to understand. His existence denies every truth, every path by which men depend on certain truths, certain experiences, certain simulations of freedom and enjoyment. He is a seducer, a madman, a hoax, a libertine, a fool, a moralist, a sayer of truths, a bearer of all experience, a righteous knave, a prince, a child, an old one, an ascetic, a god. He demonstrates the futility of all things. Therefore, he makes understanding the only possibility. And understanding makes no difference at all. Except it is reality, which was already the case.

Heartless one, Narcissus, friend, loved one, he weeps for you to understand. After all of this, why haven't you understood? The only thing you have not done is understanding.

You have seen everything, but you do not understand. Therefore, the man of understanding leaps for joy that you have already understood. He looks at the world and sees that every one and every thing has always understood. He sees that there is only understanding. Thus, the man of understanding is constantly happy with you. He is overwhelmed with happiness. He says to you: See how there is only this world of perfect enjoyment, where every one is happy, and every thing is blissful. His heart is always tearful with the endless happiness of the world.

He has grasped it, but no one is interested. He is of interest to no one. He is fascinating. He is unnoticed. Since no one understands, how could they notice him? Because there is only understanding, he is beloved, and no one comes to see him. Because there is only truth, he is likely to become famous. Since there is only joy, he will not be remembered. Because you have already understood, you find it necessary to touch his hand. Since you love so much and are not understood, you find it possible to touch his ears. He smiles at you. You notice it. Everything has already died. This is the other world.



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I get it. Been suffering for years, basically all my "little" problems added up (headaches/migraines/various pain/discomfort/OCD/bad constpipation/depression/inability to feel "anthing" good). I'll feel shit for ages and finally get used to it and able to tolerate it enough to shrug it off and just "get on with things." Then BOOM as if by magic I'll randomly have a good day (for seemingly NO REASON) and just like that my tolerance resets and it'sack to suffering again.
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It's a trick

There is so much energy in pain to be sucked off.

We are animals in intensive farming factories.

The only ones interested on us are the entities who suck off our life.

We are lured to make an extra mile and then we get another kick in the head.
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Out of all the concepts I've studied about this fucked up existence combined with my own personal experience, this seems to be the only thing that makes sense.
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Unless of course you turn your life over to The One that created it!
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Life is such unutterable hell, solely because it is sometimes beautiful. If we could only be miserable all the time, if there could be no such things as love or beauty or faith or hope, if I could be absolutely certain that my love would never be returned: how much more simple life would be. One could plod through the Siberian salt mines of existence without being bothered about happiness. Unfortunately the happiness is there. There is always the chance (about eight hundred and fifty to one) that another heart will come to mine. I can't help hoping, and keeping faith, and loving beauty. Quite frequently I am not so miserable as it would be wise to be.” - T. H. White

Why do we crave that which will destroy us (e.g. as an addict)? Why do we long for that which we cannot have (e.g. unrequited love)? Why do we long to become a better version of ourselves but can’t ever reach satisfaction or a state of contentedness with who we are? Why is love, even self love, beyond the grasp of so many of us tortured souls?

Is this hell?

The Buddha says desire leads to suffering and that is all we do from the moment we enter this realm. Desire without cease. And even the Bible says desire leads to sin and sin leads to death. We sin because we desire. We die because we desire. We live only to desire and to desire more and more.

What a twisted web we weave as human beings.

Will we ever find enough?


 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


A young 23 yo satisfies my desires
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As opposed to what

an old 23 yo?
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A young 23 yo satisfies my desires
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