Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 1,900 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 336,716
Pageviews Today: 531,236Threads Today: 176Posts Today: 2,621
06:42 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

What is the freaking deal with human longing?

 
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 73491638
United States
11/26/2016 04:04 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
I have always had a philosophy that people will always instinctively and eventually put themselves in a place that will make themselves succomb to their worst fear. There is no greater longing a human being can have than the one that fills his most emptiest place.
eagle's heart/aurora

User ID: 72908624
United States
11/26/2016 04:05 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
Sorry I desire life not death and you will never convince me into embracing death as a mark of nobility. Youre no better than an atheist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51085591


You will die eventually.

We all will.

Some will rise to everlasting life,

others to everlasting shame and contempt.

Whoever seeks to save their life will lose it,

and those who seek to give up their life for the sake of the Christ will find it,

and find it more abundantly.
 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


I do not wish everlasting shame and contempt on any being. That is an evil thing to do.
NowIhavetothinkofanam​e

User ID: 73491622
Australia
11/26/2016 04:05 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
Bible: Hell is now.
 Quoting: Levi 69624164


This is an interesting concept I've grappled with for quite a long time.

Does this mean I am already dead prior to entering this realm?

Is this hell eternal or is it a prison sentence?

Is it a purification process?

When Christ returns will He set us captives free?
 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


I'm offishshally calling it...

You're a crazy person. There I've said it now you get to ponder it.

Why on God's green Earth would anyone consider the marvels of Earth; a hell?

Consider the bus which is in every city. Who would have thought 200 years ago that a thick, hard layer of rubber with a layer of steel would hold air and be useful as a part of a suspension system?

For thousands of years people have been admiring the beauty of a sunset, something far more intricate in cloud formations than a bus wheel...

Earth is amazeballs!

You're seem like you're just bummed because no woman loves you; but the key is to love yourself... Once you do that, everything is awesome.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname


I am fine with being considered crazy.

That doesn't bother me.

I know I'm crazy in many ways.

If you wish to chalk all this up as the ramblings of some mad, broken-hearted fool than so be it.

But if this 'marvelous earth' is not hell then why is it so ripe with suffering and pain?

Everything GOOD about this place is transitory.

All is fleeting.

Nothing good lasts forever.
 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


That's the start to self acceptance. Acknowledging we're crazy. But the next key is to learn to love the crazy.

Loving a walk along the sea shore, feeding a seagull a piece of fish or even a whole chip, (Or freedom fries as you Americans call them. smh) From the fish and chip store.

Soaking up the sun, lying on a towel next to an esky filled with cold Coke cans...

Meeting friends at the beach and making giant sand castles...

Or picking flowers from friends gardens (Or the garden at the front of the trailer park you live in.) and visiting friends in hospital...

Or jumping on the internet and texting all your friends that you bought a new CDkey for Quake 3. Then you all were starting up your netbooks and getting fragged like a noob...

Even if you're house bound you can still do cool stuff... We live in The Information Age; it's never been easier to learn French.

Sortez de vos fesses et allez faire quelque chose d'intéressant...

I cheated; I used Google translate. But the sentiment is the same...
NowIhavetothinkofanameohnoithurts
It's all bull!
Nevertheless, the ruler is not truly wise who cannot discern evils before they develop themselves, and this is a faculty given to few. Niccolo Machiavelli
Karma is funny, people who kick dogs usually get bitten.
If someone doesn't add value to your life, then that someone shouldn't be a part of it.
You can always trust people to do whatever is in their own interests.
It is certain wastelands will be brought under cultivation.
Utmost Deplorable Publican.  (OP)

User ID: 36232976
United States
11/26/2016 04:06 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
Sorry I desire life not death and you will never convince me into embracing death as a mark of nobility. Youre no better than an atheist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51085591


You will die eventually.

We all will.

Some will rise to everlasting life,

others to everlasting shame and contempt.


Whoever seeks to save their life will lose it,

and those who seek to give up their life for the sake of the Christ will find it,

and find it more abundantly.
 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


I do not wish everlasting shame and contempt on any being. That is an evil thing to do.
 Quoting: eagle's heart/aurora


It's not something I would wish on anyone.

I was quoting from the Book of Daniel.
visit my blog die spammeroAz9cP
Utmost Deplorable Publican.  (OP)

User ID: 36232976
United States
11/26/2016 04:08 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
I have always had a philosophy that people will always instinctively and eventually put themselves in a place that will make themselves succomb to their worst fear. There is no greater longing a human being can have than the one that fills his most emptiest place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73491638


Very very interesting. Can you elaborate, friend?
visit my blog die spammeroAz9cP
Utmost Deplorable Publican.  (OP)

User ID: 36232976
United States
11/26/2016 04:09 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
...


This is an interesting concept I've grappled with for quite a long time.

Does this mean I am already dead prior to entering this realm?

Is this hell eternal or is it a prison sentence?

Is it a purification process?

When Christ returns will He set us captives free?
 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


I'm offishshally calling it...

You're a crazy person. There I've said it now you get to ponder it.

Why on God's green Earth would anyone consider the marvels of Earth; a hell?

Consider the bus which is in every city. Who would have thought 200 years ago that a thick, hard layer of rubber with a layer of steel would hold air and be useful as a part of a suspension system?

For thousands of years people have been admiring the beauty of a sunset, something far more intricate in cloud formations than a bus wheel...

Earth is amazeballs!

You're seem like you're just bummed because no woman loves you; but the key is to love yourself... Once you do that, everything is awesome.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname


I am fine with being considered crazy.

That doesn't bother me.

I know I'm crazy in many ways.

If you wish to chalk all this up as the ramblings of some mad, broken-hearted fool than so be it.

But if this 'marvelous earth' is not hell then why is it so ripe with suffering and pain?

Everything GOOD about this place is transitory.

All is fleeting.

Nothing good lasts forever.
 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


That's the start to self acceptance. Acknowledging we're crazy. But the next key is to learn to love the crazy.

Loving a walk along the sea shore, feeding a seagull a piece of fish or even a whole chip, (Or freedom fries as you Americans call them. smh) From the fish and chip store.

Soaking up the sun, lying on a towel next to an esky filled with cold Coke cans...

Meeting friends at the beach and making giant sand castles...

Or picking flowers from friends gardens (Or the garden at the front of the trailer park you live in.) and visiting friends in hospital...

Or jumping on the internet and texting all your friends that you bought a new CDkey for Quake 3. Then you all were starting up your netbooks and getting fragged like a noob...

Even if you're house bound you can still do cool stuff... We live in The Information Age; it's never been easier to learn French.

Sortez de vos fesses et allez faire quelque chose d'intéressant...

I cheated; I used Google translate. But the sentiment is the same...
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname


Thank you for these kind words of encouragement. I'm going home tomorrow back to the coast and I will be just a few blocks away from a beautiful beach. I think I will enjoy my time there and feed some seagulls, like you suggested. Maybe even make some new friends.
visit my blog die spammeroAz9cP
NowIhavetothinkofanam​e

User ID: 73491622
Australia
11/26/2016 04:14 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
...


And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. (Revelation 9.6)
 Quoting: Levi 73491435


This is pretty spot on.

I've had 5 major near death experiences.

3 of which were self-induced.

And each time I came dangerously close to death but death seemed to flee.
 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


Seek professional help dood...
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname


I already have,

and do.

I have a therapist I see regularly.

But I can speak openly of my own faults and shortcomings.

I am a recovering drug addict.

The self-induced were unintentional drug overdoses.

Go troll somewhere else, schmuck.
 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


You can call me a schmuck if you want; but that doesn't change the fact that IF you have real problems going on in your life.

We are not trained nor qualified to assist you with any problem you may have or have had.

Most people at GLP have their own problems; and barely handle things in their own lives, let alone have any insight with which to be of any assistance to you or anyone else.

Thus IF you do have a problem you're not coping with; the best thing to come from any GLPer would be to seek professional help.

Some people on GLP suggest depressed people kill themselves... It's good that you're talking to someone before taking the advice of any GLPer; including me.
NowIhavetothinkofanameohnoithurts
It's all bull!
Nevertheless, the ruler is not truly wise who cannot discern evils before they develop themselves, and this is a faculty given to few. Niccolo Machiavelli
Karma is funny, people who kick dogs usually get bitten.
If someone doesn't add value to your life, then that someone shouldn't be a part of it.
You can always trust people to do whatever is in their own interests.
It is certain wastelands will be brought under cultivation.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 63478798
Canada
11/26/2016 04:14 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
Blech. 3 pages of your mental masturbation for everyone to see. Gross, op.
NowIhavetothinkofanam​e

User ID: 73491622
Australia
11/26/2016 04:15 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
...


I'm offishshally calling it...

You're a crazy person. There I've said it now you get to ponder it.

Why on God's green Earth would anyone consider the marvels of Earth; a hell?

Consider the bus which is in every city. Who would have thought 200 years ago that a thick, hard layer of rubber with a layer of steel would hold air and be useful as a part of a suspension system?

For thousands of years people have been admiring the beauty of a sunset, something far more intricate in cloud formations than a bus wheel...

Earth is amazeballs!

You're seem like you're just bummed because no woman loves you; but the key is to love yourself... Once you do that, everything is awesome.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname


I am fine with being considered crazy.

That doesn't bother me.

I know I'm crazy in many ways.

If you wish to chalk all this up as the ramblings of some mad, broken-hearted fool than so be it.

But if this 'marvelous earth' is not hell then why is it so ripe with suffering and pain?

Everything GOOD about this place is transitory.

All is fleeting.

Nothing good lasts forever.
 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


That's the start to self acceptance. Acknowledging we're crazy. But the next key is to learn to love the crazy.

Loving a walk along the sea shore, feeding a seagull a piece of fish or even a whole chip, (Or freedom fries as you Americans call them. smh) From the fish and chip store.

Soaking up the sun, lying on a towel next to an esky filled with cold Coke cans...

Meeting friends at the beach and making giant sand castles...

Or picking flowers from friends gardens (Or the garden at the front of the trailer park you live in.) and visiting friends in hospital...

Or jumping on the internet and texting all your friends that you bought a new CDkey for Quake 3. Then you all were starting up your netbooks and getting fragged like a noob...

Even if you're house bound you can still do cool stuff... We live in The Information Age; it's never been easier to learn French.

Sortez de vos fesses et allez faire quelque chose d'intéressant...

I cheated; I used Google translate. But the sentiment is the same...
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname


Thank you for these kind words of encouragement. I'm going home tomorrow back to the coast and I will be just a few blocks away from a beautiful beach. I think I will enjoy my time there and feed some seagulls, like you suggested. Maybe even make some new friends.
 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


Good luck.
NowIhavetothinkofanameohnoithurts
It's all bull!
Nevertheless, the ruler is not truly wise who cannot discern evils before they develop themselves, and this is a faculty given to few. Niccolo Machiavelli
Karma is funny, people who kick dogs usually get bitten.
If someone doesn't add value to your life, then that someone shouldn't be a part of it.
You can always trust people to do whatever is in their own interests.
It is certain wastelands will be brought under cultivation.
Utmost Deplorable Publican.  (OP)

User ID: 36232976
United States
11/26/2016 04:15 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
Blech. 3 pages of your mental masturbation for everyone to see. Gross, op.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63478798


Oh piss off.

jerkit
visit my blog die spammeroAz9cP
Lord of the Sheeple

User ID: 69492308
United States
11/26/2016 04:16 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
Remember, everything you love in life you will lose. Everything. Worldly desire is a dead end.

There is no way out, but there is one way home.
Utmost Deplorable Publican.  (OP)

User ID: 36232976
United States
11/26/2016 04:17 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
Remember, everything you love in life you will lose. Everything. Worldly desire is a dead end.

There is no way out, but there is one way home.
 Quoting: Lord of the Sheeple


That's what I was saying all along in my OP.

Thank you.

This is important to hold onto.
visit my blog die spammeroAz9cP
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 73469465
United States
11/26/2016 04:19 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
It's an aspect of "Hunger". Pretty basic.
Utmost Deplorable Publican.  (OP)

User ID: 36232976
United States
11/26/2016 04:20 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
It's an aspect of "Hunger". Pretty basic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73469465


We're all just hungry ghosts, friend.
visit my blog die spammeroAz9cP
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 71840992
United States
11/26/2016 04:24 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
I have always had a philosophy that people will always instinctively and eventually put themselves in a place that will make themselves succomb to their worst fear. There is no greater longing a human being can have than the one that fills his most emptiest place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73491638


Very very interesting. Can you elaborate, friend?
 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


Don Riso describes it best in his book, "Personality Types". I didn't get sucked into the whole enneagram theory, but his descriptions of the human personality are spot on. My life changed 20 years ago after reading that book. Haven't looked back since.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72232986
United States
11/26/2016 04:29 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
Life is such unutterable hell, solely because it is sometimes beautiful. If we could only be miserable all the time, if there could be no such things as love or beauty or faith or hope, if I could be absolutely certain that my love would never be returned: how much more simple life would be. One could plod through the Siberian salt mines of existence without being bothered about happiness. Unfortunately the happiness is there. There is always the chance (about eight hundred and fifty to one) that another heart will come to mine. I can't help hoping, and keeping faith, and loving beauty. Quite frequently I am not so miserable as it would be wise to be.” - T. H. White

Why do we crave that which will destroy us (e.g. as an addict)? Why do we long for that which we cannot have (e.g. unrequited love)? Why do we long to become a better version of ourselves but can’t ever reach satisfaction or a state of contentedness with who we are? Why is love, even self love, beyond the grasp of so many of us tortured souls?

Is this hell?

The Buddha says desire leads to suffering and that is all we do from the moment we enter this realm. Desire without cease. And even the Bible says desire leads to sin and sin leads to death. We sin because we desire. We die because we desire. We live only to desire and to desire more and more.

What a twisted web we weave as human beings.

Will we ever find enough?


 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


I am not sure even the highest levels of Buddhists, including Buddha himself, ever truly finished explaining what the whole desire question was about.

They discovered that longing for material things brought suffering.

Desire is the state of wanting.

Wanting is not recognizing what is already here.

stay with me for a minute...

Wanting is a state of "lack."

Now we are all incarnate in a Plane of Duality.

SO - if we want something, we are not allowing ourselves to attain it. This is the key to all that secret stuff.

And it is one hell of a mind twist.

Appreciation is the key to unlocking the chains of wanting.

Meditate or think on that for a while.

Happiness is perception. And if you are far enough on your souls journey to be able to contemplate such things - then there is much to be grateful for.

We seek things, so they may "cause" us to feel something "good."

Where do the "good" feelings come from?

Do they come from the things?

the person?

The experience?

Can our "good" feelings exist without them?

hf
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


^ This. I love it.

And it sounds like this resonated with you too, so the above is great advice, imo.

I will only add that you could google the Four Noble Truths if you're interested in Buddhism but you're not sure where to begin. I think your description above is kind of an interpretation of only the first truth.

I don't think the dogma is necessary--but having the framework of dogma helps comfort the mind and "bring it to heel," if you will.

Just my opinion.
The Deplorable LadyCrimsonRose

User ID: 73397336
United States
11/26/2016 04:32 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
 Quoting: The Deplorable LadyCrimsonRose


Is this you?

I love this so much already.
 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


Yes it is me and thank you so much. hf
 Quoting: The Deplorable LadyCrimsonRose


I followed you on wordpress.

I got a blog there in my signature on wp also.
 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


Your writing is awesome. I will listen to your music as well. Gonna take me some time but I will be checking it all out.

applause2
The trap I set for you seems to have caught my leg instead.

I do not exist. Only you exist.

[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]

[link to www.ladycrimsonrose.wordpress.com]

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. Philippians 1:21
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 73491425
United States
11/26/2016 04:35 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


I am not sure even the highest levels of Buddhists, including Buddha himself, ever truly finished explaining what the whole desire question was about.

They discovered that longing for material things brought suffering.

Desire is the state of wanting.

Wanting is not recognizing what is already here.

stay with me for a minute...

Wanting is a state of "lack."

Now we are all incarnate in a Plane of Duality.

SO - if we want something, we are not allowing ourselves to attain it. This is the key to all that secret stuff.

And it is one hell of a mind twist.

Appreciation is the key to unlocking the chains of wanting.

Meditate or think on that for a while.

Happiness is perception. And if you are far enough on your souls journey to be able to contemplate such things - then there is much to be grateful for.

We seek things, so they may "cause" us to feel something "good."

Where do the "good" feelings come from?

Do they come from the things?

the person?

The experience?

Can our "good" feelings exist without them?

hf
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


I am saving your words in a personal journal of mine so I can reflect on this when I'm not on the computer. This resonated so deeply with me that it actually brought tears to my eyes.

Bodhi, I am eternally grateful for you sharing this wisdom and insight with me especially at a pivotal time such as this. I have seen your posts and comments on other beloved friends' threads on here and your reputation precedes you; I know you know what you're talking about and you are a GLP'er I hold in the utmost of regard.

So thank you.

Yes there is much to meditate on here.
 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


Thank you, as your words touched me as well.

rose
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 73491425
United States
11/26/2016 04:39 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


I am not sure even the highest levels of Buddhists, including Buddha himself, ever truly finished explaining what the whole desire question was about.

They discovered that longing for material things brought suffering.

Desire is the state of wanting.

Wanting is not recognizing what is already here.

stay with me for a minute...

Wanting is a state of "lack."

Now we are all incarnate in a Plane of Duality.

SO - if we want something, we are not allowing ourselves to attain it. This is the key to all that secret stuff.

And it is one hell of a mind twist.

Appreciation is the key to unlocking the chains of wanting.

Meditate or think on that for a while.

Happiness is perception. And if you are far enough on your souls journey to be able to contemplate such things - then there is much to be grateful for.

We seek things, so they may "cause" us to feel something "good."

Where do the "good" feelings come from?

Do they come from the things?

the person?

The experience?

Can our "good" feelings exist without them?

hf
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


^ This. I love it.

And it sounds like this resonated with you too, so the above is great advice, imo.

I will only add that you could google the Four Noble Truths if you're interested in Buddhism but you're not sure where to begin. I think your description above is kind of an interpretation of only the first truth.

I don't think the dogma is necessary--but having the framework of dogma helps comfort the mind and "bring it to heel," if you will.

Just my opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72232986


I am aware of the four noble truths.

Remember - Buddhism is a "practice."

As with ALL teachers - no one has reached a final answer yet. Even though millions may worship them as Be-ings who are higher than them...every single one of the Teachers/Prophets said that they are not what people see them as.

There is no "done."

Always a level to evolve to.

I wrote what I felt was appropriate in response to the Ops question.

There is some real gold in all of the religious teachings - if you dig enough. ALL.

There is some real crap in them too... ALL.

;-)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72031360
United States
11/26/2016 04:41 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
"The hardest thing in this world to do is to find somebody who believes in you."
 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


To me, the hardest thing to do is to believe in myself.
 Quoting: tuuur


feels
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72232986
United States
11/26/2016 04:45 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


I am not sure even the highest levels of Buddhists, including Buddha himself, ever truly finished explaining what the whole desire question was about.

They discovered that longing for material things brought suffering.

Desire is the state of wanting.

Wanting is not recognizing what is already here.

stay with me for a minute...

Wanting is a state of "lack."

Now we are all incarnate in a Plane of Duality.

SO - if we want something, we are not allowing ourselves to attain it. This is the key to all that secret stuff.

And it is one hell of a mind twist.

Appreciation is the key to unlocking the chains of wanting.

Meditate or think on that for a while.

Happiness is perception. And if you are far enough on your souls journey to be able to contemplate such things - then there is much to be grateful for.

We seek things, so they may "cause" us to feel something "good."

Where do the "good" feelings come from?

Do they come from the things?

the person?

The experience?

Can our "good" feelings exist without them?

hf
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


^ This. I love it.

And it sounds like this resonated with you too, so the above is great advice, imo.

I will only add that you could google the Four Noble Truths if you're interested in Buddhism but you're not sure where to begin. I think your description above is kind of an interpretation of only the first truth.

I don't think the dogma is necessary--but having the framework of dogma helps comfort the mind and "bring it to heel," if you will.

Just my opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72232986


I am aware of the four noble truths.

Remember - Buddhism is a "practice."

As with ALL teachers - no one has reached a final answer yet. Even though millions may worship them as Be-ings who are higher than them...every single one of the Teachers/Prophets said that they are not what people see them as.

There is no "done."

Always a level to evolve to.

I wrote what I felt was appropriate in response to the Ops question.

There is some real gold in all of the religious teachings - if you dig enough. ALL.

There is some real crap in them too... ALL.

;-)
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


Sorry, I meant that for OP.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72232986
United States
11/26/2016 04:48 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


I am not sure even the highest levels of Buddhists, including Buddha himself, ever truly finished explaining what the whole desire question was about.

They discovered that longing for material things brought suffering.

Desire is the state of wanting.

Wanting is not recognizing what is already here.

stay with me for a minute...

Wanting is a state of "lack."

Now we are all incarnate in a Plane of Duality.

SO - if we want something, we are not allowing ourselves to attain it. This is the key to all that secret stuff.

And it is one hell of a mind twist.

Appreciation is the key to unlocking the chains of wanting.

Meditate or think on that for a while.

Happiness is perception. And if you are far enough on your souls journey to be able to contemplate such things - then there is much to be grateful for.

We seek things, so they may "cause" us to feel something "good."

Where do the "good" feelings come from?

Do they come from the things?

the person?

The experience?

Can our "good" feelings exist without them?

hf
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


^ This. I love it.

And it sounds like this resonated with you too, so the above is great advice, imo.

I will only add that you could google the Four Noble Truths if you're interested in Buddhism but you're not sure where to begin. I think your description above is kind of an interpretation of only the first truth.

I don't think the dogma is necessary--but having the framework of dogma helps comfort the mind and "bring it to heel," if you will.

Just my opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72232986


I am aware of the four noble truths.

Remember - Buddhism is a "practice."

As with ALL teachers - no one has reached a final answer yet. Even though millions may worship them as Be-ings who are higher than them...every single one of the Teachers/Prophets said that they are not what people see them as.

There is no "done."

Always a level to evolve to.

I wrote what I felt was appropriate in response to the Ops question.

There is some real gold in all of the religious teachings - if you dig enough. ALL.

There is some real crap in them too... ALL.

;-)
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


I didn't mean to dismiss your response, by the way. I appreciate it! Just wanted to clear up that confusion.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 73491425
United States
11/26/2016 05:05 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
Didn't feel dismissed - thank you.

Just wanted to throw that in, for good measure.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72232986
United States
11/26/2016 05:11 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?


...


I didn't mean to dismiss your response, by the way. I appreciate it! Just wanted to clear up that confusion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72232986


hf

Didn't feel dismissed - thank you.

Just wanted to throw that in, for good measure.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


Now I have this desire to use not use language. Back to work. lol
Anani

User ID: 72189296
United States
11/26/2016 08:00 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
"We are meant to be Happy", by Irmansyah Effendi

That has always been something we strive for in this life. In fact, if we look at the motivations behind our thoughts and actions—conscious and unconscious—they are all to get us closer to the feeling, or at least the idea, of happiness.

Some of us have long asked why we cannot hold on to happiness. For all of the scholarship and human insights across the centuries, nobody has found a complete and enduring answer. Perhaps because it has been too close to see…

The answer, the key, is our heart. ....(a lot less than 50%)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72950657
United States
11/26/2016 08:01 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
Life is such unutterable hell, solely because it is sometimes beautiful. If we could only be miserable all the time, if there could be no such things as love or beauty or faith or hope, if I could be absolutely certain that my love would never be returned: how much more simple life would be. One could plod through the Siberian salt mines of existence without being bothered about happiness. Unfortunately the happiness is there. There is always the chance (about eight hundred and fifty to one) that another heart will come to mine. I can't help hoping, and keeping faith, and loving beauty. Quite frequently I am not so miserable as it would be wise to be.” - T. H. White

Why do we crave that which will destroy us (e.g. as an addict)? Why do we long for that which we cannot have (e.g. unrequited love)? Why do we long to become a better version of ourselves but can’t ever reach satisfaction or a state of contentedness with who we are? Why is love, even self love, beyond the grasp of so many of us tortured souls?

Is this hell?

The Buddha says desire leads to suffering and that is all we do from the moment we enter this realm. Desire without cease. And even the Bible says desire leads to sin and sin leads to death. We sin because we desire. We die because we desire. We live only to desire and to desire more and more.

What a twisted web we weave as human beings.

Will we ever find enough?


 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.


And what is capitalism if not consumerism which is nothing but fulfilling desires...???
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 28202853
United Kingdom
11/26/2016 08:14 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
some of us don't need the iphone7, jus sayin
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1686458
United States
11/26/2016 08:14 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
Life is such unutterable hell, solely because it is sometimes beautiful. If we could only be miserable all the time, if there could be no such things as love or beauty or faith or hope, if I could be absolutely certain that my love would never be returned: how much more simple life would be. One could plod through the Siberian salt mines of existence without being bothered about happiness. Unfortunately the happiness is there. There is always the chance (about eight hundred and fifty to one) that another heart will come to mine. I can't help hoping, and keeping faith, and loving beauty. Quite frequently I am not so miserable as it would be wise to be.” - T. H. White

Why do we crave that which will destroy us (e.g. as an addict)? Why do we long for that which we cannot have (e.g. unrequited love)? Why do we long to become a better version of ourselves but can’t ever reach satisfaction or a state of contentedness with who we are? Why is love, even self love, beyond the grasp of so many of us tortured souls?

Is this hell?

The Buddha says desire leads to suffering and that is all we do from the moment we enter this realm. Desire without cease. And even the Bible says desire leads to sin and sin leads to death. We sin because we desire. We die because we desire. We live only to desire and to desire more and more.

What a twisted web we weave as human beings.

Will we ever find enough?


 Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican.

If you can stave off your desires wether sexual or soul stirring it is better. You will profit more and suffer much less in life. Like the Bible says:
And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to great appetite. ~ Proverbs 23:2
But if you marry you have not sinned but you will have great troubles in this life trying to please a woman that will never be pleased.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1686458
United States
11/26/2016 08:23 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
One of the requirements to get close to God is to deny the self. To overcome the ego. So loving another person feeds ones ego and fulfills that need for validation and love. Kind of a two edged sword this thing called love. It pierces the innermost heart but then you can bleed to death from it. Metaphorically speaking.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 31561972
United States
11/26/2016 08:27 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: What is the freaking deal with human longing?
I quit worrying about "love" about 11 years ago and I have to tell you, life is so much simpler.

I focus on raising my kids, they bring me much joy.





GLP