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(OP) User ID: 36232976 United States 11/26/2016 03:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry I desire life not death and you will never convince me into embracing death as a mark of nobility. Youre no better than an atheist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51085591 You will die eventually. We all will. Some will rise to everlasting life, others to everlasting shame and contempt. Whoever seeks to save their life will lose it, and those who seek to give up their life for the sake of the Christ will find it, and find it more abundantly. visit my blog die spammeroAz9cP |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49919328 United States 11/26/2016 03:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is an interesting concept I've grappled with for quite a long time. Does this mean I am already dead prior to entering this realm? Is this hell eternal or is it a prison sentence? Is it a purification process? When Christ returns will He set us captives free? You've already knocked on the pearly gates. They said "Nah, you can't come in. You have to leave this place. You must go to a different place to wonder for sometime." A place where your soul will never be quenched. No matter what you do in this life there will always be this void. A friend till the end. |
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(OP) User ID: 36232976 United States 11/26/2016 03:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is an interesting concept I've grappled with for quite a long time. Does this mean I am already dead prior to entering this realm? Is this hell eternal or is it a prison sentence? Is it a purification process? When Christ returns will He set us captives free? You've already knocked on the pearly gates. They said "Nah, you can't come in. You have to leave this place. You must go to a different place to wonder for sometime." A place where your soul will never be quenched. No matter what you do in this life there will always be this void. A friend till the end. Don't tease me, friend. Speak truthfully now. In this moment. I have already died. This much I am sure of. Whether or not I truly survived that death or if I am still dead even now, in this place, in this realm; this is uncertain. But I was dead as a door nail and I could see my rotted corpse. I wrote about it here: "LET ME TELL YOU THE STORY OF WHEN I DIED AND WENT TO HELL" [link to xt04r.wordpress.com (secure)] visit my blog die spammeroAz9cP |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73442354 United States 11/26/2016 03:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol longing. speaking of long.. how about i get a long one and rub one out.. no need for human longing any more.. huh OP.. jeez.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73442354 of course if i had a million dollars, i'd be in the country.. not enslaved to the city.. full of douchers, weirdos Tell me more about your adventures in missing the point. Get your mind out of the gutter long enough to consider some of the deeper things of life. when is the last time you ejaculated you impotent fuck. i certainly don't feel like needing anyone after getting it all out of me. then i go to work and i work with beautiful, awesome people. and i don't "LONG" for them. lol everyone needs an escape. could be drugs, a person, or their own drugs in their own mind. i smoke weed as well. i haven't had an alcoholic drink in about 8 months. alcohol is for the real gutter losers. the point is, you're some liberal ass hat that thinks you are a buddhist. lol. how are their 1.4 billion indians and hindus and buddhists? they get it on and have a baby. hm. who would have thought.. there can't be death without life, and their can't be life without death. see, i get it. get your mind out of the gutter, no, you need to expand your consciousness. learn to reach out to each person, not the entire forest. people aren't trees, everyone is different. although most seem to be clones and fakes to me.. i'm fine with being single and alone. i'd rather rescue children from pizzagate than "long" for someone. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51085591 Germany 11/26/2016 03:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not a naturalist. Buddhists base their entire dogma based on a naturalist viewpoint. Assumptions based on a naturalist viewpoint. Your entire assumption in the op is based off naturalism. All based on the conditions of this one planet in this single realm. |
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(OP) User ID: 36232976 United States 11/26/2016 03:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol longing. speaking of long.. how about i get a long one and rub one out.. no need for human longing any more.. huh OP.. jeez.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73442354 of course if i had a million dollars, i'd be in the country.. not enslaved to the city.. full of douchers, weirdos Tell me more about your adventures in missing the point. Get your mind out of the gutter long enough to consider some of the deeper things of life. when is the last time you ejaculated you impotent fuck. i certainly don't feel like needing anyone after getting it all out of me. then i go to work and i work with beautiful, awesome people. and i don't "LONG" for them. lol everyone needs an escape. could be drugs, a person, or their own drugs in their own mind. i smoke weed as well. i haven't had an alcoholic drink in about 8 months. alcohol is for the real gutter losers. the point is, you're some liberal ass hat that thinks you are a buddhist. lol. how are their 1.4 billion indians and hindus and buddhists? they get it on and have a baby. hm. who would have thought.. there can't be death without life, and their can't be life without death. see, i get it. get your mind out of the gutter, no, you need to expand your consciousness. learn to reach out to each person, not the entire forest. people aren't trees, everyone is different. although most seem to be clones and fakes to me.. i'm fine with being single and alone. i'd rather rescue children from pizzagate than "long" for someone. I never claimed to be buddhist I was just echoing sentiments both from Buddhist philosophy and from Biblical principle. Labels are for buckets and boxes, of which I am neither. That's fine. You're happy. Fan-fucking-tastic! Some of us would prefer not to spend our entire lives jacking off for some short, momentary sense of release but would prefer to have deep, intimate conversations with another human being. visit my blog die spammeroAz9cP |
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(OP) User ID: 36232976 United States 11/26/2016 03:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. (Revelation 9.6) This is pretty spot on. I've had 5 major near death experiences. 3 of which were self-induced. And each time I came dangerously close to death but death seemed to flee. visit my blog die spammeroAz9cP |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49919328 United States 11/26/2016 03:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is an interesting concept I've grappled with for quite a long time. Does this mean I am already dead prior to entering this realm? Is this hell eternal or is it a prison sentence? Is it a purification process? When Christ returns will He set us captives free? You've already knocked on the pearly gates. They said "Nah, you can't come in. You have to leave this place. You must go to a different place to wonder for sometime." A place where your soul will never be quenched. No matter what you do in this life there will always be this void. A friend till the end. Don't tease me, friend. Speak truthfully now. In this moment. I have already died. This much I am sure of. Whether or not I truly survived that death or if I am still dead even now, in this place, in this realm; this is uncertain. But I was dead as a door nail and I could see my rotted corpse. I wrote about it here: "LET ME TELL YOU THE STORY OF WHEN I DIED AND WENT TO HELL" [link to xt04r.wordpress.com (secure)] You never truly die. The program disassembles and reassembles vessels. The container returns to dust, but the contents wonder on. |
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(OP) User ID: 36232976 United States 11/26/2016 03:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican. This is an interesting concept I've grappled with for quite a long time. Does this mean I am already dead prior to entering this realm? Is this hell eternal or is it a prison sentence? Is it a purification process? When Christ returns will He set us captives free? You've already knocked on the pearly gates. They said "Nah, you can't come in. You have to leave this place. You must go to a different place to wonder for sometime." A place where your soul will never be quenched. No matter what you do in this life there will always be this void. A friend till the end. Don't tease me, friend. Speak truthfully now. In this moment. I have already died. This much I am sure of. Whether or not I truly survived that death or if I am still dead even now, in this place, in this realm; this is uncertain. But I was dead as a door nail and I could see my rotted corpse. I wrote about it here: "LET ME TELL YOU THE STORY OF WHEN I DIED AND WENT TO HELL" [link to xt04r.wordpress.com (secure)] You never truly die. The program disassembles and reassembles vessels. The container returns to dust, but the contents wonder on. Yes, this is what I thought. Life seamlessly continued. From the moment of death. To the realization and acceptance of death. Back to the continuation of life after death. But still dead. In this other realm. Hell. The program disassembles and reassembles. The mind is so infinitely complex that it can create whole new scenarios, whole new places and people and things you've never experienced based on pre-recorded stimuli that was recorded over the duration of your pre-existent life. visit my blog die spammeroAz9cP |
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User ID: 73491622 Australia 11/26/2016 03:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. (Revelation 9.6) This is pretty spot on. I've had 5 major near death experiences. 3 of which were self-induced. And each time I came dangerously close to death but death seemed to flee. Seek professional help dood... NowIhavetothinkofanameohnoithurts It's all bull! Nevertheless, the ruler is not truly wise who cannot discern evils before they develop themselves, and this is a faculty given to few. Niccolo Machiavelli Karma is funny, people who kick dogs usually get bitten. If someone doesn't add value to your life, then that someone shouldn't be a part of it. You can always trust people to do whatever is in their own interests. It is certain wastelands will be brought under cultivation. |
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(OP) User ID: 36232976 United States 11/26/2016 03:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is an interesting concept I've grappled with for quite a long time. Does this mean I am already dead prior to entering this realm? Is this hell eternal or is it a prison sentence? Is it a purification process? When Christ returns will He set us captives free? I'm offishshally calling it... You're a crazy person. There I've said it now you get to ponder it. Why on God's green Earth would anyone consider the marvels of Earth; a hell? Consider the bus which is in every city. Who would have thought 200 years ago that a thick, hard layer of rubber with a layer of steel would hold air and be useful as a part of a suspension system? For thousands of years people have been admiring the beauty of a sunset, something far more intricate in cloud formations than a bus wheel... Earth is amazeballs! You're seem like you're just bummed because no woman loves you; but the key is to love yourself... Once you do that, everything is awesome. I am fine with being considered crazy. That doesn't bother me. I know I'm crazy in many ways. If you wish to chalk all this up as the ramblings of some mad, broken-hearted fool than so be it. But if this 'marvelous earth' is not hell then why is it so ripe with suffering and pain? Everything GOOD about this place is transitory. All is fleeting. Nothing good lasts forever. visit my blog die spammeroAz9cP |
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(OP) User ID: 36232976 United States 11/26/2016 03:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. (Revelation 9.6) This is pretty spot on. I've had 5 major near death experiences. 3 of which were self-induced. And each time I came dangerously close to death but death seemed to flee. Seek professional help dood... I already have, and do. I have a therapist I see regularly. But I can speak openly of my own faults and shortcomings. I am a recovering drug addict. The self-induced were unintentional drug overdoses. Go troll somewhere else, schmuck. visit my blog die spammeroAz9cP |
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(OP) User ID: 36232976 United States 11/26/2016 03:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Contrary to some of what I've been reading here, earthly desire is a kind of waking death--it has nothing to do with sustaining life. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72232986 Life, as the desirous mind experiences it, will always disappoint. Peggy Lee makes the point well. Just my opinion. If that's all there is then lets keep dancing. visit my blog die spammeroAz9cP |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72232986 United States 11/26/2016 03:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Contrary to some of what I've been reading here, earthly desire is a kind of waking death--it has nothing to do with sustaining life. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72232986 Life, as the desirous mind experiences it, will always disappoint. Peggy Lee makes the point well. Just my opinion. If that's all there is then lets keep dancing. Yup, I'd say dancing is the key. |
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(OP) User ID: 36232976 United States 11/26/2016 03:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Contrary to some of what I've been reading here, earthly desire is a kind of waking death--it has nothing to do with sustaining life. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72232986 Life, as the desirous mind experiences it, will always disappoint. Peggy Lee makes the point well. Just my opinion. If that's all there is then lets keep dancing. Yup, I'd say dancing is the key. It's traditionally a love song but in this context it's wildly haunting. visit my blog die spammeroAz9cP |
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User ID: 73397336 United States 11/26/2016 03:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican. Yes it is me and thank you so much. The trap I set for you seems to have caught my leg instead. I do not exist. Only you exist. [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] [link to www.ladycrimsonrose.wordpress.com] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. Philippians 1:21 |
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(OP) User ID: 36232976 United States 11/26/2016 03:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican. Yes it is me and thank you so much. I followed you on wordpress. I got a blog there in my signature on wp also. visit my blog die spammeroAz9cP |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29512274 United States 11/26/2016 03:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73405756 The Soul that rises with us, our life's Star, Hath had elsewhere its setting, And cometh from afar: Not in entire forgetfulness, And not in utter nakedness, But trailing clouds of glory do we come From God, who is our home: Heaven lies about us in our infancy! Shades of the prison-house begin to close Upon the growing Boy, But he beholds the light, and whence it flows, He sees it in his joy; The Youth, who daily farther from the east Must travel, still is Nature's priest, And by the vision splendid Is on his way attended; 75 At length the Man perceives it die away, And fade into the light of common day. [link to www.bartleby.com] William Wordsworth 1770-1850 |
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(OP) User ID: 36232976 United States 11/26/2016 03:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You quoted the buddha as supportive to your thesis, but why did you not reference his teachings??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63478798 All of the buddhas teachings are about achieving the cessation of suffering!! Yes it is absolutely possible to transcend desire and suffering. I didn't reference his teachings because I am not a buddhist and I don't want to speak too much about that which I know only an elementary understanding of. visit my blog die spammeroAz9cP |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73491425 United States 11/26/2016 04:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “Life is such unutterable hell, solely because it is sometimes beautiful. If we could only be miserable all the time, if there could be no such things as love or beauty or faith or hope, if I could be absolutely certain that my love would never be returned: how much more simple life would be. One could plod through the Siberian salt mines of existence without being bothered about happiness. Unfortunately the happiness is there. There is always the chance (about eight hundred and fifty to one) that another heart will come to mine. I can't help hoping, and keeping faith, and loving beauty. Quite frequently I am not so miserable as it would be wise to be.” - T. H. White Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican. Why do we crave that which will destroy us (e.g. as an addict)? Why do we long for that which we cannot have (e.g. unrequited love)? Why do we long to become a better version of ourselves but can’t ever reach satisfaction or a state of contentedness with who we are? Why is love, even self love, beyond the grasp of so many of us tortured souls? Is this hell? The Buddha says desire leads to suffering and that is all we do from the moment we enter this realm. Desire without cease. And even the Bible says desire leads to sin and sin leads to death. We sin because we desire. We die because we desire. We live only to desire and to desire more and more. What a twisted web we weave as human beings. Will we ever find enough? I am not sure even the highest levels of Buddhists, including Buddha himself, ever truly finished explaining what the whole desire question was about. They discovered that longing for material things brought suffering. Desire is the state of wanting. Wanting is not recognizing what is already here. stay with me for a minute... Wanting is a state of "lack." Now we are all incarnate in a Plane of Duality. SO - if we want something, we are not allowing ourselves to attain it. This is the key to all that secret stuff. And it is one hell of a mind twist. Appreciation is the key to unlocking the chains of wanting. Meditate or think on that for a while. Happiness is perception. And if you are far enough on your souls journey to be able to contemplate such things - then there is much to be grateful for. We seek things, so they may "cause" us to feel something "good." Where do the "good" feelings come from? Do they come from the things? the person? The experience? Can our "good" feelings exist without them? |
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User ID: 73397336 United States 11/26/2016 04:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican. Yes it is me and thank you so much. I followed you on wordpress. I got a blog there in my signature on wp also. Cool I'll check it out. The trap I set for you seems to have caught my leg instead. I do not exist. Only you exist. [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] [link to www.ladycrimsonrose.wordpress.com] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. Philippians 1:21 |
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(OP) User ID: 36232976 United States 11/26/2016 04:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “Life is such unutterable hell, solely because it is sometimes beautiful. If we could only be miserable all the time, if there could be no such things as love or beauty or faith or hope, if I could be absolutely certain that my love would never be returned: how much more simple life would be. One could plod through the Siberian salt mines of existence without being bothered about happiness. Unfortunately the happiness is there. There is always the chance (about eight hundred and fifty to one) that another heart will come to mine. I can't help hoping, and keeping faith, and loving beauty. Quite frequently I am not so miserable as it would be wise to be.” - T. H. White Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican. Why do we crave that which will destroy us (e.g. as an addict)? Why do we long for that which we cannot have (e.g. unrequited love)? Why do we long to become a better version of ourselves but can’t ever reach satisfaction or a state of contentedness with who we are? Why is love, even self love, beyond the grasp of so many of us tortured souls? Is this hell? The Buddha says desire leads to suffering and that is all we do from the moment we enter this realm. Desire without cease. And even the Bible says desire leads to sin and sin leads to death. We sin because we desire. We die because we desire. We live only to desire and to desire more and more. What a twisted web we weave as human beings. Will we ever find enough? I am not sure even the highest levels of Buddhists, including Buddha himself, ever truly finished explaining what the whole desire question was about. They discovered that longing for material things brought suffering. Desire is the state of wanting. Wanting is not recognizing what is already here. stay with me for a minute... Wanting is a state of "lack." Now we are all incarnate in a Plane of Duality. SO - if we want something, we are not allowing ourselves to attain it. This is the key to all that secret stuff. And it is one hell of a mind twist. Appreciation is the key to unlocking the chains of wanting. Meditate or think on that for a while. Happiness is perception. And if you are far enough on your souls journey to be able to contemplate such things - then there is much to be grateful for. We seek things, so they may "cause" us to feel something "good." Where do the "good" feelings come from? Do they come from the things? the person? The experience? Can our "good" feelings exist without them? I am saving your words in a personal journal of mine so I can reflect on this when I'm not on the computer. This resonated so deeply with me that it actually brought tears to my eyes. Bodhi, I am eternally grateful for you sharing this wisdom and insight with me especially at a pivotal time such as this. I have seen your posts and comments on other beloved friends' threads on here and your reputation precedes you; I know you know what you're talking about and you are a GLP'er I hold in the utmost of regard. So thank you. Yes there is much to meditate on here. visit my blog die spammeroAz9cP |