If Being Gay Is Natural, Normal, And Acceptable, Why Do You Need To "Come Out"?

Being gay is not normal, but it is natural & perfectly acceptable. The reason people have to 'come out' is because we - as a society - are in the midst of transitioning from a bigoted, religion-based mentality to an informed, compassionate one.

50 years from now well-know people who are gay won't have to come out. For the moment they do to help the transition towards acceptance.

I don't think you comprehended what I wrote. For me, the issue is NOT what goes on in the bedroom, but that you and those like you have an issue with me loving a woman. There is no (at least yet thank GOD!) bedroom police assessing how things are transpiring. THe gay agenda (as so nefariously trumpeted) is, for me anyway, the ability to LIVE WITH my woman and not fear losing my job ( as would have happened to me in my workplace ten years ago), being beaten or molested for not being interested in men (yeah that course of action would certainly change my mind), having my wife give all of our shared nest egg to the f'ing IRS, just walking down the street hand -in -hand w/o drawing stares, etc. As long as the culture denigrates a person for pursuing happiness (that ole founding principle) while hurting no one****, that culture needs fixing.

"Coming out" was one of the scariest, most empowering things I ever did. I NO LONGER LIVED A LIE. If integrity is even remotely important to you, surely that resonates?

I had a childhood friend turn from me briefly. Her rather conservative father asked her why she would give up a (at the time) 25 year friendship? Why indeed? Why are we as a society, as a species so hung up on this? Its not about sex (unless you get strangely titillated about it). Its about the right to live your life. And as long as you make it an issue, so it is.


****It should go without saying that we are discussing consenting adults. Anyone who diddles children male OR female should rot in a horrific jail cell for life.

Because society has mandated that we do.

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Being gay is not normal, but it is natural & perfectly acceptable.

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Im a 40 year old straight male that has some gay friends and have come across many homosexuals (mostly male) throughout the years. You, if what you say is true, are a rarity amongst the LGBT community---in the sense that you dont let your sexuality define who you are.

I would say 100% of the homosexuals that I know or have ever met, have used this so called sexual preference to augment their identity, personality and even get preferred treatment as a victim of social handicap intolerance. And that goddam lisp...does that develop on its own after coming out?

I agree, it is NOT an issue of what goes on in the bedroom, but it should be-- an then kept in the bedroom. If you and I are the same in every other way except in the bedroom, what other issues should there be? Why is it that every time I meet a homosexual, the first thing I have aggressively pushed on me is the fact that they are gay? When I first meet someone, I don't start touting how I love getting blowjobs--

Anyway, maybe to you, it is about the right to live your life as you wish, without persecution--but for every gay I know, its about forcing, not tolerance, but praise for being gay, and using it to define who they are. Ive had friends who 'came out'..they are no longer my friends. Not because they are gay, but because they turned into someone I no longer knew...now, to them, only the gay approved stuff was worth their time..and everything else was crap.

Most gays cant distinguish the difference as you seem to have..

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First off, the word is not "Gay," it's Homosexuality.
Stop making it sound sweet and cute. Words mean things.


And second, there is nothing NATURAL about Homosexuality.


It's a biological dead end.


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Because society has mandated that we do.

First let me say, I in no way hate gay people. It is a sin, and we are all sinners. We all need Christ, only He can change anyone. I am a sinner, he delivered me from drinking, womanizing, etc. I literally do not desire those things anymore, because the more I learn about Him, the closer I get to Him and I want to live the way He tells me to live. Progressives and liberals can hee and haw and laugh, and I understand it better than they know...I used to BE a liberal progressive, and I know all the ins and outs of that mindset. It is a ridiculous position to hold, I know because I held it and matured out of it.

That said, let us apply the "just accept" it argument in other areas.

I like to lie to everyone about everything. It makes me feel good and better than I really am. You cannot trust a word out of my mouth, because lying is who I am as a person. I am not hurting anyone, so get over it and accept it. Don't give me some idiocy about God or morality, it is my choice to be who I want to be. Accept, lieophobes. You are just mad because you want to lie about everything too and you are too scared.
Sure is your choice. If you are truly not hurting anyone, I don't give a crap if you are some compulsive lier. Go for it. Your problem, not mine. This is really comparing apples with oranges though. I really don't see how you can compare this to being gay at all.


A person enjoys looking at kid porn. It doesn't hurt anyone, no one knows. It makes them happy and they aren't hurting anyone. That is who they are. Maybe you don't admit it because you want to look at it. Get over it, accept it. Stop making a big deal out of it.
WRONG. There are victims here. To create some kind of kid porn there has to be an exploited child here. By looking at it or distributing it you are an active participant in victimizing. Another irrelevant argument. A child is not a consenting partner

A person wants to marry their horse. The horse doesn't care, it has no feelings about it. Who cares. Stop judging.
Wrong again. (surprise!) A horse or other animal is not a consenting adult partner. Just like in the case of a child, it is important to protect the rights of those who can not speak for themselves.


Or how about this scenario. A little boy is growing up well, smart and happy. His parents teach him that sex is a thing for a man and a woman in marriage, to have babies and because God made it for a husband and a wife. The little boy says ok. Then the little boy sees two men or two women holding hands on TV. He is confused and asks his parents, who tell him that some people choose to go against God's way. In high school a group of gay students try and sway the boy towards trying gay sex. The boy is confused and since everyone on tv and in the news says that gay is normal, he decides that he should try it. The boy starts living the gay lifestyle, having sex with multiple partners. He contracts HIV and dies at 28.
Have you ever tried to be gay. Go ahead, just for sake of your argument. Try out the gay for awhile. Now, imagine that in no way you can ever feel for a moment any sexual attraction to someone of the same sex. Now take that same feeling and actually use a little empathy, if it is possible. Understand that someone who is gay can't switch it off. They can "pretend" for the sake of society and acceptance, but the can no more change who they are truly attracted to than you can. When my child asks why those two men or women are holding hands I will tell them, "because you can't help who you fall in love with. God is love and God made both of them in his image just as he made you. It must be God's will for them to be together just like it will be with whom you fall in love with and marry. Most people will end up with someone of the opposite sex, but not everyone. Judge not lest ye be judged. Love your neighbor as yourself. Live and let live."



That actually happens. Source? When you permeate the culture with sin, there are penalties. There is right and wrong.

So scream hate, bigot, say I am an idiot. I am an intelligent ex liberal who woke up the reality of the world.

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Yawn. Another divisive thread. Why can't we just be a bunch of tin foil hat wearing people? Realize there are puppet masters and your just another religitard puppet wanting to incite hate talks?

Grow up people are people. NWO is the enemy not your gay neighbor.

If being gay was normal, then society would have mandated it eons ago as necessary for society's survival.

That's what makes things normal - people doing things that way and society surviving as a result of it being that way.

Things that are not normal, enough of them, erode, corrupt and ultimately destroy society.

You may force abnormal upon society and prevail, but buddy, you are captain at the helm of a sinking ship.

Bon voyage, skipper.

Youre not the first on this thread to cry MOST based on your small sample size and what the MSM is trying to frame as consensus reality.

Three thoughts:
1. You need to find better gays with whom to hang. Roughly 50% of my social circle is gay but while a few can be whiney, I can say the same for roughly a similar subset of the straight ones. If anything the gay guys are funnier in their whining than straights (male or female) much less the lesbians (hell stay away from whining lesbians!)
Which leads to:
2. Isnt most of America, gay or straight, fallen victim to these awful tendencies? Is this even a gay issue, or an American one?
3. We GLPers pride ourselves for not being taken in by how the elites want to frame our world. How well are we doing that GLP?

Youre not the first on this thread to cry MOST based on your small sample size and what the MSM is trying to frame as consensus reality.

Three thoughts:
1. You need to find better gays with whom to hang. Roughly 50% of my social circle is gay but while a few can be whiney, I can say the same for roughly a similar subset of the straight ones. If anything the gay guys are funnier in their whining than straights (male or female) much less the lesbians (hell stay away from whining lesbians!)
Which leads to:
2. Isnt most of America, gay or straight, fallen victim to these awful tendencies? Is this even a gay issue, or an American one?
3. We GLPers pride ourselves for not being taken in by how the elites want to frame our world. How well are we doing that GLP?

I have seen a rash of videos on the internet and celebrated in the media of people coming out of the closet to the their friends and family. They take a private matter of sexual orientation and broadcast it for the world to see. They are then interviewed by the media to celebrate their courage and bravery, encouraging others to film their coming out and posting it on the internet.

I can't help but wonder why they feel the need to "come out" in the first place, let alone record it and post it on the internet, if they are comfortable with their sexuality. You don't see straight people doing this, and your sexuality is generally considered something personal.

I am convinced that the individuals doing this are looking for both validation from others as well as attention. They are unsure of their sexuality and need confirmation from other people that it is okay. They also want to show the world they are gay to draw attention and praise to themselves to make them feel special. It is a private matter that should be discussed privately, not held up for the whole world to take notice. Doing something like this brings your credibility into question, because if you were secure in the sexuality, you wouldn't need validation from anyone.

Youre not the first on this thread to cry MOST based on your small sample size and what the MSM is trying to frame as consensus reality.

Three thoughts:
1. You need to find better gays with whom to hang. Roughly 50% of my social circle is gay but while a few can be whiney, I can say the same for roughly a similar subset of the straight ones. If anything the gay guys are funnier in their whining than straights (male or female) much less the lesbians (hell stay away from whining lesbians!)
Which leads to:
2. Isnt most of America, gay or straight, fallen victim to these awful tendencies? Is this even a gay issue, or an American one?
3. We GLPers pride ourselves for not being taken in by how the elites want to frame our world. How well are we doing that GLP?

There is no way I could, or want to live in your world of sick friends. Never.

Anhh. Normal is so over-rated.

Can we agree that ANY intimate behavior that is not consensual is criminal, indeed deviant?

Then, if two consenting adults engage in intimate activities having nothing to do with anyone else, please tell me how it is not an enlightened happiness pursuing society that not only allows but condones said behavior?

"most" is as subjective as "small sample size".. The number is a few dozen at least, and Id say all but 1 fit that stereotype. Its trendy to be gay, rebel against the grain-- it also attracts those who need a sense of belonging--sort of like a cult.

I dont throw around 'most' as loosely as you think. When every single homosexual one meets fits the stereotype I described, I think its safe to draw some conclusions. I agree, not from a small sample, but at what point do you stop giving the benefit of the doubt? 10, 20, 30?

Im not sure what you mean by point 3, but I think that the gay issue is perpetuated by the gay community. Sort of like the race issue being perpetuated by the black community. If homosexuals truly wanted to be 'unnoticed'--as 'normal' people are. They should stop having parades, and flamboyantly throwing it our faces. But that, obviously isnt what they want--- its a 'hey look at me' culture with this new generation, and homosexuality fits in nicely..

I could care less who you love and who you share your life with. But, dont call me a bigot for not agreeing with homosexuality. I dont impose my beliefs on others-- but the gay agenda imposes theirs on me--in this twisted world, I am the outcast for not being open minded.

Aside from my opinions....the fact is that it is not natural. The sole purpose of intercourse is to procreate. In modern times, recreational sex has become the norm. This is the only reason why homosexual supporters accept homosexuality as natural. Again, I dont care what anyone does as long as it doesn't impose on me-- but an agenda that attempts to reconstruct my belief system of what is natural or not, I will not be tolerant.

I always thought there just was not something right mentally be it female or male. Do I care no , just dont push it in our face. 0o0o0o well America stinks anymore.

Darling, I have never been so sincere as when I say, "The feeling is mutual".

You'll last about a month, after the lights go out.

And from the fact that something exists what can we conclude exactly?

totally agree but hard to even say it especially in Canada you are attacked for even saying this aloud.

Homophobes, like OP are often gay themselves, because they try to overcompensate to hide their own homosexuality.