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If Being Gay Is Natural, Normal, And Acceptable, Why Do You Need To "Come Out"?

 
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Can I have a coming out party to announce my cis-gender identification?
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Natural?
if we are talking about animals, rape is natural too.
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I have seen a rash of videos on the internet and celebrated in the media of people coming out of the closet to the their friends and family. They take a private matter of sexual orientation and broadcast it for the world to see. They are then interviewed by the media to celebrate their courage and bravery, encouraging others to film their coming out and posting it on the internet.

I can't help but wonder why they feel the need to "come out" in the first place, let alone record it and post it on the internet, if they are comfortable with their sexuality. You don't see straight people doing this, and your sexuality is generally considered something personal.

I am convinced that the individuals doing this are looking for both validation from others as well as attention. They are unsure of their sexuality and need confirmation from other people that it is okay. They also want to show the world they are gay to draw attention and praise to themselves to make them feel special. It is a private matter that should be discussed privately, not held up for the whole world to take notice. Doing something like this brings your credibility into question, because if you were secure in the sexuality, you wouldn't need validation from anyone.
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I think you are over thinking it. Its obvious that it bugs you so much that you had to write a 3 paragraph explanation of your displeasure. Under religious persecution we did a lot of weird things, we still do. Slowly but surely the Idea of coming out is projecting normalcy of gay people, so eventually nobody will have to "come out". You will just know. But until then you will just have to grin and bear it, and really nobody is asking you to engage. Acceptance of homesecuality must happen first berfore we eal away all the weird traditions we have assigned to them.

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Why did/do Christians and Jews have to hide?

Same exact reason.

Prejudice.
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Because the media is working for the luciferian elite. They need all the smiling gay faces they can get on tv. They want the next generation of kids bisexual and having sex by age 14. It will have a major effect on population control. It opens the door for the anything goes culture as well. Pedophilia, animal sex. By that time they will have convinced the majority of the world that killing infants is fine if they are not wanted because they don't have feelings or thoughts yet.

It is all luciferian driven. Fact. And the people brainwashed by the propaganda will soon salute the one world leader because he believes in do whatever you want.

And to those saying homosexuals have always existed, that is because sin has been around since the fall. I don't even see how an atheist can say putting something in an anus, literally the place where we dispel toxic waste, is normal or natural.
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Homophobes, like OP are often gay themselves, because they try to overcompensate to hide their own homosexuality.
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I have seen a rash of videos on the internet and celebrated in the media of people coming out of the closet to the their friends and family. They take a private matter of sexual orientation and broadcast it for the world to see. They are then interviewed by the media to celebrate their courage and bravery, encouraging others to film their coming out and posting it on the internet.

I can't help but wonder why they feel the need to "come out" in the first place, let alone record it and post it on the internet, if they are comfortable with their sexuality. You don't see straight people doing this, and your sexuality is generally considered something personal.

I am convinced that the individuals doing this are looking for both validation from others as well as attention. They are unsure of their sexuality and need confirmation from other people that it is okay. They also want to show the world they are gay to draw attention and praise to themselves to make them feel special. It is a private matter that should be discussed privately, not held up for the whole world to take notice. Doing something like this brings your credibility into question, because if you were secure in the sexuality, you wouldn't need validation from anyone.
 Quoting: Rising Son


I think you are over thinking it. Its obvious that it bugs you so much that you had to write a 3 paragraph explanation of your displeasure. Under religious persecution we did a lot of weird things, we still do. Slowly but surely the Idea of coming out is projecting normalcy of gay people, so eventually nobody will have to "come out". You will just know. But until then you will just have to grin and bear it, and really nobody is asking you to engage. Acceptance of homesecuality must happen first berfore we eal away all the weird traditions we have assigned to them.

Idol1
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So your solution to encouraging people to be more tolerant of homosexuality is by inundating us with it shoving it in our faces until we accept it? That's not very tolerant of someone who disagrees with homosexuality.
"Be still, and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

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I have seen a rash of videos on the internet and celebrated in the media of people coming out of the closet to the their friends and family. They take a private matter of sexual orientation and broadcast it for the world to see. They are then interviewed by the media to celebrate their courage and bravery, encouraging others to film their coming out and posting it on the internet.

I can't help but wonder why they feel the need to "come out" in the first place, let alone record it and post it on the internet, if they are comfortable with their sexuality. You don't see straight people doing this, and your sexuality is generally considered something personal.

I am convinced that the individuals doing this are looking for both validation from others as well as attention. They are unsure of their sexuality and need confirmation from other people that it is okay. They also want to show the world they are gay to draw attention and praise to themselves to make them feel special. It is a private matter that should be discussed privately, not held up for the whole world to take notice. Doing something like this brings your credibility into question, because if you were secure in the sexuality, you wouldn't need validation from anyone.
 Quoting: Rising Son


Don't you remember what the Bible says?

2 Thessalonians 2:3Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.…


Daniel 11:37 "He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women, nor will he show regard for any other god; for he will magnify himself above them all


Also recall what the "Gay Pride" colors are?.. Rainbow..


Genesis 9:13 I will put my rainbow in the clouds to be a sign of my promise to the earth.

Well,
that's what it says..




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"coming Out" is an event for gays because prior to that, they are living a lie. It provides a sense of liberation and freedom you dont have when you live a closeted life.

Usually, you have just gone through a period of introspection, learning about yourself, and it can be difficult to gauge what the reactions of your family and friends will be. Youve gone your entire life listening to off the cuff snide comments about gays, and the fear of loosing family and friends because of who you love is quite real.

Its become a more public event in recent years as some of the cultural stigma associated with gays has died down. It is encouraged by the gay community to be publicly out, because if people know they have gays in their family, they will be more understanding and less insulting to others.
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So you are saying they need validation from others to feel comfortable about their sexuality. Why should it matter what others think?
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Humans crave validation. Its great to run around and act like you don't care what others perception of you may be, but most people very much do care how the world views them.
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Homophobes, like OP are often gay themselves, because they try to overcompensate to hide their own homosexuality.
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YOUTUBE WAS FAGTUBE EARLIER!!!
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Homophobes, like OP are often gay themselves, because they try to overcompensate to hide their own homosexuality.
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Standard retort of the LGBT community, and having no relevance to the discussion. Unlike the subject of this thread, I don't feel the need to validate my sexuality. You guys really should come up with something new, responses like yours are getting old.
"Be still, and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

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I just jerked off to two dudes dressed like girls and God said it was cool.
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That's an excellent question.

Also, why is it so important that homosexuals have everyone's approval with it? Why?

I am not going to use the term 'gay' any more because I know some homosexual people and they do NOT fit the original definition of gay.

I like everybody. I do not feel like it is my business what goes on in people's bedrooms. Frankly, I would rather not be privy to that information regarding anyone. Just, let's carry on as individuals having a conversation about other things, as usual.
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I am in the same boat, I don't care what your sexuality is because it is a private matter that I have no business knowing. I think many of them adopt their sexuality as their identity, when it should only be a part of your identity, and frankly a private one.
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Im one of "them". May I chime in?

I am a woman married to a woman, but that does not "identify" me any more than I am a very good athlete, a successful business owner, and I get unbelievably irate when people do stupid self-centered or worse evil self-centered things. Hell, that last bit probably identifies me more than anything else.

The issue is not what my wife and I do in the bedroom, any more than what you do in yours. Its none of your gdamn business, just as what you do is none of mine. My life with my wife is so much more than sex. She is my most intimate soul mate, just as straight people identify their spouse.

I think the issue really stems from the fact that you and others like you GO straight (pardon the pun) to the bedroom. If we could all just accept that some people are orientated to loving (and all that entails) the same sex and others are orientated to loving the other sex, the issue can just disappear.

I cant speak for other gay people, but dammit I just want to be left alone to pursue happiness as I like. That means I can hold her hand over dinner, I can tell folks at the water cooler what we did that weekend, I can show up with her at a family picnic, and all of you people wont go bug-eyed. That also includes not being continually analyzed by your ilk. The sooner you people get over it, the sooner the "gay issue" will disappear. "That which you resist, persists" truly applies here.
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Homophobes, like OP are often gay themselves, because they try to overcompensate to hide their own homosexuality.
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Standard retort of the LGBT community, and having no relevance to the discussion. Unlike the subject of this thread, I don't feel the need to validate my sexuality. You guys really should come up with something new, responses like yours are getting old.
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Why Do You Need To "Come Out"?

Maybe cause you get tired of having to pretend or insinuate being straight around friends, family, coworkers?

You can only go along with laughing at gay jokes or making sexual comments about people of the opposite sex for so long.
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I have seen a rash of videos on the internet and celebrated in the media of people coming out of the closet to the their friends and family. They take a private matter of sexual orientation and broadcast it for the world to see. They are then interviewed by the media to celebrate their courage and bravery, encouraging others to film their coming out and posting it on the internet.

I can't help but wonder why they feel the need to "come out" in the first place, let alone record it and post it on the internet, if they are comfortable with their sexuality. You don't see straight people doing this, and your sexuality is generally considered something personal.

I am convinced that the individuals doing this are looking for both validation from others as well as attention. They are unsure of their sexuality and need confirmation from other people that it is okay. They also want to show the world they are gay to draw attention and praise to themselves to make them feel special. It is a private matter that should be discussed privately, not held up for the whole world to take notice. Doing something like this brings your credibility into question, because if you were secure in the sexuality, you wouldn't need validation from anyone.
 Quoting: Rising Son


Don't you remember what the Bible says?

2 Thessalonians 2:3Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.…


Daniel 11:37 "He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women, nor will he show regard for any other god; for he will magnify himself above them all


Also recall what the "Gay Pride" colors are?.. Rainbow..


Genesis 9:13 I will put my rainbow in the clouds to be a sign of my promise to the earth.

Well,
that's what it says..




afro
 Quoting: WinterStone


And oddly the translations are currently being changes to state something else???
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Because when people keep trying to set you up with dates, it just makes life obscenely awkward. Better everyone get the message and stop making awkward situations needlessly.
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If downloading music or smoking weed is illegal then why do people still do it?
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That's an excellent question.

Also, why is it so important that homosexuals have everyone's approval with it? Why?

I am not going to use the term 'gay' any more because I know some homosexual people and they do NOT fit the original definition of gay.

I like everybody. I do not feel like it is my business what goes on in people's bedrooms. Frankly, I would rather not be privy to that information regarding anyone. Just, let's carry on as individuals having a conversation about other things, as usual.
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper


I am in the same boat, I don't care what your sexuality is because it is a private matter that I have no business knowing. I think many of them adopt their sexuality as their identity, when it should only be a part of your identity, and frankly a private one.
 Quoting: Rising Son


Im one of "them". May I chime in?

I am a woman married to a woman, but that does not "identify" me any more than I am a very good athlete, a successful business owner, and I get unbelievably irate when people do stupid self-centered or worse evil self-centered things. Hell, that last bit probably identifies me more than anything else.

The issue is not what my wife and I do in the bedroom, any more than what you do in yours. Its none of your gdamn business, just as what you do is none of mine. My life with my wife is so much more than sex. She is my most intimate soul mate, just as straight people identify their spouse.

I think the issue really stems from the fact that you and others like you GO straight (pardon the pun) to the bedroom. If we could all just accept that some people are orientated to loving (and all that entails) the same sex and others are orientated to loving the other sex, the issue can just disappear.

I cant speak for other gay people, but dammit I just want to be left alone to pursue happiness as I like. That means I can hold her hand over dinner, I can tell folks at the water cooler what we did that weekend, I can show up with her at a family picnic, and all of you people wont go bug-eyed. That also includes not being continually analyzed by your ilk. The sooner you people get over it, the sooner the "gay issue" will disappear. "That which you resist, persists" truly applies here.
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I agree, it is a private issue that should not be broadcast out to everyone. It is no one else's business and should be kept that way.
"Be still, and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

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all have a duty to spread the gay until satan is pleased
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Homophobes, like OP are often gay themselves, because they try to overcompensate to hide their own homosexuality.
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Because one day it will become normal.. maybe in Colorado.
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IM STRAIGHT AND IM PROUD OF IT!!!
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Colorado is gonna celebrate butt fucking and gay marriage with some weed.
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Hey guys, I've got something that will require your attention for a moment.

I'm a heterosexual. tomato
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Gays that get caught with women are hetrosexual.
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Because of social stigmas

Homosexuality has always existed
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And we have a winner!
Glad some common sense still exists out there.
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Thanks

What we consider normal, natural and acceptable is largely based on our social conditioning, not any true objective reality

A couple of hundred years ago, we owned other humans with impunity in this nation

In India (and a shit ton of the Middle East) it's common place for slavery to exist to this day, legally, although some cultures use other names to be more palatable

I am not gay but I know people who are, and it is largely the least important thing about them

A homosexual more likely to be a pedophile, indeed, most pedophiles are straight white males who identify themselves as xian

And to compare homosexuality to pedophilia is tempting, but it is ultimately inaccurate.

Homosexuality is a victimless crime - it involves mutually consenting adults who should be the sole legal governors of their sexuality as long as it isn't forced upon someone and/or doesn't involve a child, who has no legal authority to give consent

If you have sex with a child, you have a victim

If you have sex with a fellow consenting adult, you have a sex partner

I was raised by people who would have rather hung a 'fag' than looked at one, and I was no different.

I was raised in a virtually all-white, all-thumper, all-straight area and had no reason to question what I had been raised to believe - until one of my best friends in school came out as gay and I realized that this fact changed nothing about my relationship with him or his personality or anything about him that pertained to me

It was my paradigm shift

I've since had many LGBT friends, people who are incredibly similar to me aside from their sexual preferences - and I have never been one to poke into the details of my friend's sex lives anyway, so their sexuality has been totally irrelevant

Anyway, I don't think that society should legislate or dictate morality and/or immorality that harms no one other than those participating. I don't want to live in a theocracy, I don't want to live in a nation that can dictate reproduction or who I can love/be intimate with.

I realize that a lot of people feel as though homosexuality is frowned upon by their deity, but YOUR random spiritual beliefs should have no bearing on a stranger's existence - just as you don't want muslims coming over here and dictating your life choices through sharia law.
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Seems to be popular in prison when you drop the soap in the shower.
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That's an excellent question.

Also, why is it so important that homosexuals have everyone's approval with it? Why?

I am not going to use the term 'gay' any more because I know some homosexual people and they do NOT fit the original definition of gay.

I like everybody. I do not feel like it is my business what goes on in people's bedrooms. Frankly, I would rather not be privy to that information regarding anyone. Just, let's carry on as individuals having a conversation about other things, as usual.
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper


But it's not just about sex. OP apparently thinks that a man just casually showing up at their parents house with a boyfriend when the parents assume their child is straight is the best way to handle it. At this point, I generally don't think it is.

I look forward to when being gay, transgender, genderqueer ISN'T a big deal so that people can lose the self-hate (and for the deep-closeted, also hatred of others). At that time, "coming out" won't even exist.





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