| Users Online Now: 1,665 (Who's On?) | Visitors Today: 570,181 | |
| Pageviews Today: 743,727 | Threads Today: 223 | Posts Today: 3,004 |
| 06:34 AM | ||
| Users Online Now: 1,665 (Who's On?) | Visitors Today: 570,181 | |
| Pageviews Today: 743,727 | Threads Today: 223 | Posts Today: 3,004 |
| 06:34 AM | ||
If Being Gay Is Natural, Normal, And Acceptable, Why Do You Need To "Come Out"? | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 62018843  United States01/16/2015 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Em18966 Thanks What we consider normal, natural and acceptable is largely based on our social conditioning, not any true objective reality A couple of hundred years ago, we owned other humans with impunity in this nation In India (and a shit ton of the Middle East) it's common place for slavery to exist to this day, legally, although some cultures use other names to be more palatable I am not gay but I know people who are, and it is largely the least important thing about them A homosexual more likely to be a pedophile, indeed, most pedophiles are straight white males who identify themselves as xian And to compare homosexuality to pedophilia is tempting, but it is ultimately inaccurate. Homosexuality is a victimless crime - it involves mutually consenting adults who should be the sole legal governors of their sexuality as long as it isn't forced upon someone and/or doesn't involve a child, who has no legal authority to give consent If you have sex with a child, you have a victim If you have sex with a fellow consenting adult, you have a sex partner I was raised by people who would have rather hung a 'fag' than looked at one, and I was no different. I was raised in a virtually all-white, all-thumper, all-straight area and had no reason to question what I had been raised to believe - until one of my best friends in school came out as gay and I realized that this fact changed nothing about my relationship with him or his personality or anything about him that pertained to me It was my paradigm shift I've since had many LGBT friends, people who are incredibly similar to me aside from their sexual preferences - and I have never been one to poke into the details of my friend's sex lives anyway, so their sexuality has been totally irrelevant Anyway, I don't think that society should legislate or dictate morality and/or immorality that harms no one other than those participating. I don't want to live in a theocracy, I don't want to live in a nation that can dictate reproduction or who I can love/be intimate with. I realize that a lot of people feel as though homosexuality is frowned upon by their deity, but YOUR random spiritual beliefs should have no bearing on a stranger's existence - just as you don't want muslims coming over here and dictating your life choices through sharia law. You are my favorite person on GLP! You seem to always have well thought out, logical responses.  DITTO~! Well, well said. Thanks and much love to both of you :) :hf::hf: Don't heed the words of this stupid atheist broad. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66400166 United States01/16/2015 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| ladar User ID: 66942771  United Kingdom01/16/2015 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 67083424 United States01/16/2015 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So your solution to encouraging people to be more tolerant of homosexuality is by inundating us with it shoving it in our faces until we accept it? That's not very tolerant of someone who disagrees with homosexuality. Quoting: Rising Son I don't think people are worried about the sensitivities of homophobes. I think having "tolerance" of someone's sexuality is much more important then having "tolerance" of what you don't want to hear about. And yes, that is exactly the point of why people do it. It's the reason why all civil/human rights movements have been shoved in the faces of those who don't want to acknowledge/accept them. This line of questioning is like asking why black people needed their civil rights movement or that they shouldn't have done the million man march on washington because you didn't want to hear about it. Or why women needed a women's movement. Or why people needed to talk about their slavery abolitionist ideals. Or why people needed to speak out about freedom of religion. Etc..... History will put you in the same book as the white pride/anti-women/pro-slavery/anti freedom of religion people, because society is moving inexorably towards accepting it. In 100 years people will think you're as backward thinking as people who were pro-slavery in the 1800s. If no one ever spoke out about important topics the world would never move forward. You're pretty much one of those old coots shouting at kids to get off your lawn. You're trying to intellectualize or obfuscate your anti-gay stance, no one is fooled by the "well I just don't want to hear about it!" idea. It's just a less aggressive way of being anti-gay and we all know the point of this topic is about you wanting to give your view of not liking homosexuality and not because your ears are bleeding because you heard about someone coming out as gay. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66991234 United States01/16/2015 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Homophobes, like OP are often gay themselves, because they try to overcompensate to hide their own homosexuality. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66579071 Not necessarily my opinion, but I'll play the devil's advocate; Not everyone who speaks out against a perceived problem is terrified that they, themselves have the same tendencies. By this logic Mother's Against Drunk Driver's (MADD) are really secret drunk driver's. Women who fight against the Islamic world's treatment of women really are women brutalizers. People who speak out against pedophiles really are pedophiles themselves. This homophobic comment is often repeated, but stupid just the same.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 65738606 United States01/16/2015 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Aradzell
 User ID: 66793120 United States01/16/2015 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a gay man I don't rub it in people's faces. I don't hide that I am gay, so if someone asks if I'm dating a gal I will flat tell them 'I date men exclusively'. But I don't volunteer that information. And I'm not obviously gay either. I'm 'just a dude' no one knows I'm gay unless they ask, or if they see me with my partner (when I have a partner). Most gay men are exactly like this. The ones you see that are obvious and make a big deal out of it are the minority. Something like only 20% of gay men are obviously gay. Something on the order of just 40% feel that being gay is their identity. The other 60% of us pretty much live our life and don't see homosexuality as a 'big deal'. Sure we are gay, we just don't have to live the gay lifestyle. What you are seeing are those who are new to the gay lifestyle. They feel a need to make gay the larger part of their life, and live gay. They are more prone to wave rainbow flags, attend Pride Parades and become part of the gay ghetto lifestyle. The majority of us live 'normal' lives. We are doctors, lawyers, firemen, policemen, whatever. We have a mixed bag of friends, straight and gay. We do 'normal' activities with out any or heavy emphasis on hanging around at gay places, with gay people and being part of the 'scene'. Understand there is the 'gay scene' - Castro Street San Francisco is one such example of the gay scene. A whole hood is dedicated to rainbows and LGBT stuff. Folk who live there dedicate a large chunk of their lives to being gay. So what you are seeing a newbe's to the 'gay scene' who are most likely going to end up making gay their whole life, or a substantial part of it. Rainbows, drag shows, LGBT events/charities, etc. Sent from my iPhone 12 - because I'm better than you. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66646767 United States01/16/2015 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 56596909 United States01/16/2015 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66991234 United States01/16/2015 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So your solution to encouraging people to be more tolerant of homosexuality is by inundating us with it shoving it in our faces until we accept it? That's not very tolerant of someone who disagrees with homosexuality. Quoting: Rising Son I don't think people are worried about the sensitivities of homophobes. I think having "tolerance" of someone's sexuality is much more important then having "tolerance" of what you don't want to hear about. And yes, that is exactly the point of why people do it. It's the reason why all civil/human rights movements have been shoved in the faces of those who don't want to acknowledge/accept them. ROTF! That of course is predicated on pulling off a revolution that doesn't burn the house down and everyone in it. The trouble with flirting with cultural suicide or "burning the house down," is you don't have anywhere to live or anyone who will be willing to put up with your shit. I guess you think if somehow you burn down the West for social justice reasons, that Russia, China, and the second and third world will just welcome social justice warriors with open arms? More like, they will shoot you on sight, and think they are doing humanity a good turn. And they'd be right.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 67086852  Philippines01/16/2015 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 64934887 United States01/16/2015 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66991234 United States01/16/2015 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ***Now all you sensitive straight guys don't get your knickers in a wad if a gay guy ever hit on you. Welcome to what ALL women go thru at some point in their life. If youre not gay, that boy is movin' on isn't he? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66481513 No takers? Just gonna keep bashing? Do you really want to live in the society you promote? Think..... You must think this is the first time in history that irreconcilable political differences lead to revolution, war and complete destruction of a society. If you want to push as irreconcilable what is and has been clearly reconcilable then accept the consequences of yor radical political beliefs as pretty much a done deal, and don't whine like a bitch when you are starving, homeless and everything around is in flames. That's the consequence of being a fucking give-no-quarter, social justice warrior asshole. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 67083424 United States01/16/2015 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So your solution to encouraging people to be more tolerant of homosexuality is by inundating us with it shoving it in our faces until we accept it? That's not very tolerant of someone who disagrees with homosexuality. Quoting: Rising Son I don't think people are worried about the sensitivities of homophobes. I think having "tolerance" of someone's sexuality is much more important then having "tolerance" of what you don't want to hear about. And yes, that is exactly the point of why people do it. It's the reason why all civil/human rights movements have been shoved in the faces of those who don't want to acknowledge/accept them. ROTF! That of course is predicated on pulling off a revolution that doesn't burn the house down and everyone in it. The trouble with flirting with cultural suicide or "burning the house down," is you don't have anywhere to live or anyone who will be willing to put up with your shit. I guess you think if somehow you burn down the West for social justice reasons, that Russia, China, and the second and third world will just welcome social justice warriors with open arms? More like, they will shoot you on sight, and think they are doing humanity a good turn. And they'd be right. Burning the house down? Cultural suicide? I imagine this is what anti-women, pro-slavery, white-pride people said/say. I don't see how two men or women having sex with each other effects you or society AT ALL. I know you hate gay people and that this argument about "burning down the house" is just at attempt at obfuscation or dressing up your hatred to look prettier or more relevant. As for Russia or China, eventually they will be accepting of gay people. Capitalism crushed communism already in most of the world and we can already see it's going to defeat communism in China as they just have to give more and more human/civil rights to people every single year and open up their economy more and more. And we all know that Western ideals and human/civil rights will follow with capitalism, eventually. I'm not gay myself but if I was, I could care less of what they think of me. It would be like telling a Western woman that they don't feel women are nearly as important in those countries or that they have to hide themselves in middle eastern nations; and expecting them to take it seriously and feel bad or less important because of it! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66033132 United States01/16/2015 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | back in my day girls that would wear boys clothes just because it was more comfortable and they wanted to hide the fact that they were getting older/growing breasts. These days dikes or lesbians brainwash them while they're young to convert them into homosexuality. Being gay is a choice and society in trying to erase the fact that you can choose not to be gay or not. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32861573 United States01/16/2015 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a gay man I don't rub it in people's faces. I don't hide that I am gay, so if someone asks if I'm dating a gal I will flat tell them 'I date men exclusively'. But I don't volunteer that information. Quoting: Aradzell And I'm not obviously gay either. I'm 'just a dude' no one knows I'm gay unless they ask, or if they see me with my partner (when I have a partner). Most gay men are exactly like this. The ones you see that are obvious and make a big deal out of it are the minority. Something like only 20% of gay men are obviously gay. Something on the order of just 40% feel that being gay is their identity. The other 60% of us pretty much live our life and don't see homosexuality as a 'big deal'. Sure we are gay, we just don't have to live the gay lifestyle. What you are seeing are those who are new to the gay lifestyle. They feel a need to make gay the larger part of their life, and live gay. They are more prone to wave rainbow flags, attend Pride Parades and become part of the gay ghetto lifestyle. The majority of us live 'normal' lives. We are doctors, lawyers, firemen, policemen, whatever. We have a mixed bag of friends, straight and gay. We do 'normal' activities with out any or heavy emphasis on hanging around at gay places, with gay people and being part of the 'scene'. Understand there is the 'gay scene' - Castro Street San Francisco is one such example of the gay scene. A whole hood is dedicated to rainbows and LGBT stuff. Folk who live there dedicate a large chunk of their lives to being gay. So what you are seeing a newbe's to the 'gay scene' who are most likely going to end up making gay their whole life, or a substantial part of it. Rainbows, drag shows, LGBT events/charities, etc. Your Avatard is GAY AS FUCK. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66991234 United States01/16/2015 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a gay man I don't rub it in people's faces. I don't hide that I am gay, so if someone asks if I'm dating a gal I will flat tell them 'I date men exclusively'. But I don't volunteer that information. Quoting: Aradzell And I'm not obviously gay either. I'm 'just a dude' no one knows I'm gay unless they ask, or if they see me with my partner (when I have a partner). Most gay men are exactly like this. The ones you see that are obvious and make a big deal out of it are the minority. Something like only 20% of gay men are obviously gay. Something on the order of just 40% feel that being gay is their identity. The other 60% of us pretty much live our life and don't see homosexuality as a 'big deal'. Sure we are gay, we just don't have to live the gay lifestyle. What you are seeing are those who are new to the gay lifestyle. They feel a need to make gay the larger part of their life, and live gay. They are more prone to wave rainbow flags, attend Pride Parades and become part of the gay ghetto lifestyle. The majority of us live 'normal' lives. We are doctors, lawyers, firemen, policemen, whatever. We have a mixed bag of friends, straight and gay. We do 'normal' activities with out any or heavy emphasis on hanging around at gay places, with gay people and being part of the 'scene'. Understand there is the 'gay scene' - Castro Street San Francisco is one such example of the gay scene. A whole hood is dedicated to rainbows and LGBT stuff. Folk who live there dedicate a large chunk of their lives to being gay. So what you are seeing a newbe's to the 'gay scene' who are most likely going to end up making gay their whole life, or a substantial part of it. Rainbows, drag shows, LGBT events/charities, etc. "I am gay, so if someone asks if I'm dating a gal I will flat tell them 'I date men exclusively'." I find it interesting that there is an population of men that just outright reject women at the most basic level of sexual attraction. It usually takes a few bad relationships, a couple of failed marriages, and becoming destitute from child support and alimony to come to the same attitude. Maybe being gay is just a pressure relief valve for out of control feminism. Too bad, I'm not attracted to guys. It would solve and prevent a lot of problems. |
| The Logos User ID: 67087535 United States01/16/2015 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 67020894  Germany01/16/2015 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66033132 United States01/16/2015 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 67020894 Germany01/16/2015 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Equating the two is ridiculous and essentially obsolete. Pedophilia is absolutely unacceptable and is a choice that certain power-hungry adults make. Homosexuality is not a choice made after birth. You can't have it both ways. Either both gays and pedos are born that way or they both made the choice. Take a pick. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 60744132 United States01/16/2015 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Em18966
User ID: 66273340 United States01/16/2015 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65941087 You are my favorite person on GLP! You seem to always have well thought out, logical responses. DITTO~! Well, well said. Thanks and much love to both of you :) :hf::hf: Don't heed the words of this stupid atheist broad. See, your hatred is about your personal religious beliefs - it's based upon your own indoctrination - not reality. And I am not an atheist - I simply don't share your spiritual beliefs You wouldn't want my beliefs forced upon YOU through the legislative process, however you have no problem with laws being created to mirror your morality and spirituality. That is the definition of a hypocrite, dude. You think rights should be reserved for yourself and people like you, because CLEARLY everyone else is wrong, dirty and inferior. You need to grow up. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 45300003 United Kingdom01/16/2015 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If Adam has the urge to bring Steve back home... He is better off telling them he's gay. Why? To firstly help them come to terms with the fact he isn't bringing a female home and next to openly live his lifestyle without shame. I don't think any one thinks its " normal" its not the norm. Its acceptable in so far as people accept it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 60744132 United States01/16/2015 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Equating the two is ridiculous and essentially obsolete. Pedophilia is absolutely unacceptable and is a choice that certain power-hungry adults make. Homosexuality is not a choice made after birth. You can't have it both ways. Either both gays and pedos are born that way or they both made the choice. Take a pick. Why is this argument always end up with the pedos having a choice? It is said to be a mental disease, so why couldn't those sick fcks be born that way? Doesn't make it right as there is one way consent going on. The rapist, ad that is what a pedo is, save they rape children. Rapist et el are all probably born that way too. Still, one way consent. Meanwhile, in homosexuals, there is a two way consent. Who gives a rats ass if two people are getting their rocks off so-long-as they are both consenting parties. And while we are at it, why isn't it acceptable for plural marriages like they had in the bible? Society is a control freak. Only on occasion does that control make a lick of sense. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 787869 United States01/16/2015 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Both are caused by inconsistencies in either genetics or brain chemistry. The difference is that pedophilia needs to be treated by a psychologist. Also, there is no objective morality, better just rip that band-aid off now. They need to be treated with jail time and fire. I'll agree wholeheartedly that a pedophile who acts on their urges should face jail time, but gay people? Seriously? The worst thing they've done to you is prance around in flamboyant clothing. I'm guessing you have some deep-seeded, repressed, homosexual urges. How do you know you aren't gay if you haven't given it a shot? Studies show that those who are most homophobic tend to also be homosexual. Just think about all those baptist ministers who have been caught jerking off dudes in a bathroom. [link to www.scientificamerican.com]     |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 67087215 United States01/16/2015 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's an excellent question. Quoting: Ms. Superduper Also, why is it so important that homosexuals have everyone's approval with it? Why? I am not going to use the term 'gay' any more because I know some homosexual people and they do NOT fit the original definition of gay. I like everybody. I do not feel like it is my business what goes on in people's bedrooms. Frankly, I would rather not be privy to that information regarding anyone. Just, let's carry on as individuals having a conversation about other things, as usual. I am in the same boat, I don't care what your sexuality is because it is a private matter that I have no business knowing. I think many of them adopt their sexuality as their identity, when it should only be a part of your identity, and frankly a private one. Im one of "them". May I chime in? I am a woman married to a woman, but that does not "identify" me any more than I am a very good athlete, a successful business owner, and I get unbelievably irate when people do stupid self-centered or worse evil self-centered things. Hell, that last bit probably identifies me more than anything else. The issue is not what my wife and I do in the bedroom, any more than what you do in yours. Its none of your gdamn business, just as what you do is none of mine. My life with my wife is so much more than sex. She is my most intimate soul mate, just as straight people identify their spouse. I think the issue really stems from the fact that you and others like you GO straight (pardon the pun) to the bedroom. If we could all just accept that some people are orientated to loving (and all that entails) the same sex and others are orientated to loving the other sex, the issue can just disappear. I cant speak for other gay people, but dammit I just want to be left alone to pursue happiness as I like. That means I can hold her hand over dinner, I can tell folks at the water cooler what we did that weekend, I can show up with her at a family picnic, and all of you people wont go bug-eyed. That also includes not being continually analyzed by your ilk. The sooner you people get over it, the sooner the "gay issue" will disappear. "That which you resist, persists" truly applies here. It is a sin along with other sexual immortal sins that is not accepted in the kingdom of heaven. It is call a choice to live outside the will of God. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 787869 United States01/16/2015 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because the media is working for the luciferian elite. They need all the smiling gay faces they can get on tv. They want the next generation of kids bisexual and having sex by age 14. It will have a major effect on population control. It opens the door for the anything goes culture as well. Pedophilia, animal sex. By that time they will have convinced the majority of the world that killing infants is fine if they are not wanted because they don't have feelings or thoughts yet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46034678 It is all luciferian driven. Fact. And the people brainwashed by the propaganda will soon salute the one world leader because he believes in do whatever you want. And to those saying homosexuals have always existed, that is because sin has been around since the fall. I don't even see how an atheist can say putting something in an anus, literally the place where we dispel toxic waste, is normal or natural.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 67083424 United States01/16/2015 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | back in my day girls that would wear boys clothes just because it was more comfortable and they wanted to hide the fact that they were getting older/growing breasts. These days dikes or lesbians brainwash them while they're young to convert them into homosexuality. Being gay is a choice and society in trying to erase the fact that you can choose not to be gay or not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66033132 So you're telling me that if I try hard enough, I can convince you that you are gay and will make you attracted to men and you will start having sex with them? Or that if I had told you this as a kid who was starting to take an interest in sex/relationships, you would have turned out gay and started to be attracted to boys? Just roll that idea around in your head for awhile, and you will find out how stupid it sounds. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 67083424 United States01/16/2015 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | See, your hatred is about your personal religious beliefs - it's based upon your own indoctrination - not reality. Quoting: Em18966 And I am not an atheist - I simply don't share your spiritual beliefs You wouldn't want my beliefs forced upon YOU through the legislative process, however you have no problem with laws being created to mirror your morality and spirituality. That is the definition of a hypocrite, dude. You think rights should be reserved for yourself and people like you, because CLEARLY everyone else is wrong, dirty and inferior. You need to grow up. +1 "The commands; you shall not commit murder, you shall not steal, you shall not covet and whatever other commands there may be are summed up in this one command; love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no harm to a neighbor, therefore love is the fulfullment of the law." I went to private Lutheran grade school and high school and I imagine I've learned more about the Bible then 99% of Americans, and yet we were never taught about hating gay people or learning to be prejudiced against them. |
