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If Being Gay Is Natural, Normal, And Acceptable, Why Do You Need To "Come Out"?

 
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"coming Out" is an event for gays because prior to that, they are living a lie. It provides a sense of liberation and freedom you dont have when you live a closeted life.

Usually, you have just gone through a period of introspection, learning about yourself, and it can be difficult to gauge what the reactions of your family and friends will be. Youve gone your entire life listening to off the cuff snide comments about gays, and the fear of loosing family and friends because of who you love is quite real.

Its become a more public event in recent years as some of the cultural stigma associated with gays has died down. It is encouraged by the gay community to be publicly out, because if people know they have gays in their family, they will be more understanding and less insulting to others.
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So you are saying they need validation from others to feel comfortable about their sexuality. Why should it matter what others think?
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It assume it matters what others think because it can negatively affect their life if their family and/or friends disown them. I'm not gay and I'm asking a lot of the same questions you are. I'm a bit confused by the pride part of being gay. But I think the question "why should it matter what others think" has an easy answer. If a boy is worried that his parents will react negatively, then if the "coming out" is smooth sailing then it's a huge load off their shoulders and might go overboard throwing their sexuality in everyone's face.
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If being homo was natural then the species would have dies out eons ago.
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Homosexuality is caused by one or more of the following:

(1) childhood sexual abuse
(2) being "turned out" in prison, college fraternities and sororities, or otherwise being bullied
(3) peer pressure
(4) succumbing to powerful social programming through mass media
(5) children deliberately raised to be gender-confused/gay
(6) choosing the lifestyle for social and career enhancement
(7) prescription drugs such as adderall and vyvanse
(8) children emulating an opposite-gender single parent
(9) as a protest against social norms
(10) to piss off parents
(11) extreme narcissism
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This list is straight out of the 1920s, congrats on this remarkable achievement!
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There were mentally ill sodomites then as there are now. Humans dealing with self-righteous perverts is nothing modern. The only thing new is liberals letting the insane run the asylum.
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Can two males or two females naturally procreate?


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also why do they suddenly have to start talking in a lispy gay voice and start dressing like a fruit?
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Easy.

Because naked women, in any form, are naturally sexy to a real man.

Two fag boys together, not at all.

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Ok, thanks for your reply, and yes, it does seem to be this way. I'm just wondering why? Why is it ok for two women, but not for two men? Doesn't seem fair to me. (yeah i know, life ain't fair, lol). I have my opinions on homosexuality, yet think of it in terms of applying to either gender.
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If being homo was natural then the species would have dies out eons ago.

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Rumor has it they evolved from the sea monkeys.

Somehow, I don't believe that rumor.


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Homosexuality is caused by one or more of the following:

(1) childhood sexual abuse
(2) being "turned out" in prison, college fraternities and sororities, or otherwise being bullied
(3) peer pressure
(4) succumbing to powerful social programming through mass media
(5) children deliberately raised to be gender-confused/gay
(6) choosing the lifestyle for social and career enhancement
(7) prescription drugs such as adderall and vyvanse
(8) children emulating an opposite-gender single parent
(9) as a protest against social norms
(10) to piss off parents
(11) extreme narcissism
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This list is straight out of the 1920s, congrats on this remarkable achievement!
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that list remembers the 50"s us-propaganda video why marjuana is bad and what it does to our children..
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Really? At what age do you think marijuana is appropriate for use by children? Maybe you believe that an after lunch martini would be good for first graders?
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i should have exclamation marks for the children.

the movie i mean was idiotic and grow fear from something which the humanity has done since 2000 years and now it got suddenly forbidden by nylon industrie by coorporation influence on government in the US.

children should surely not smoke anything.
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also stop taking man weiner in the butt and in your mouth, its not normal and not right, knock it off already!!!
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I'm still waiting for the straight pride parades!!

rofl
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Every day is straight pride day. That you guys get your balls in a knot over one day a year is pretty sad tounge
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Being gay is a sexual deviance just like any other. Abnormal.
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It just means if hetro marriage is legal then gay has to be legal..

It's called EQUALITY..


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ROTF. You can make a group out of anything. Its called social engineering. What next? Let's make it a human right to fu*k animals. Now Heather screwing her Great Dane is freakn' Martin Luther King, and my blocks' new Gandhi of social justice because she's got a kink for dogs?

What a fucking idiot.
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Can it one day be normal like the legality of weed?
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If people had to ram it up their poop chute, there'd be a WHOLE lot less people using it!
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you homophobe and envy people are nazis.
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I'm still waiting for the straight pride parades!!

rofl
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Every day is straight pride day. That you guys get your balls in a knot over one day a year is pretty sad tounge
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You know that is bullshit and a lame ass excuse. If straights paraded around shoving straightness in your face you would get pissed off. Gay pride parades are just trying to piss normals off.
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I'm still waiting for the straight pride parades!!

rofl
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Every day is straight pride day. That you guys get your balls in a knot over one day a year is pretty sad tounge
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You know that is bullshit and a lame ass excuse. If straights paraded around shoving straightness in your face you would get pissed off. Gay pride parades are just trying to piss normals off.
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no just pisses boring old-society-conforms like you off.
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I'm still waiting for the straight pride parades!!

rofl
 Quoting: chuckles45


Every day is straight pride day. That you guys get your balls in a knot over one day a year is pretty sad tounge
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4366158


You know that is bullshit and a lame ass excuse. If straights paraded around shoving straightness in your face you would get pissed off. Gay pride parades are just trying to piss normals off.
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no just pisses boring old-society-conforms like you off.
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You just admitted it is only to piss people off. Just live your life like a normal person. Being gay is not "new" or "progressive".
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I'm still waiting for the straight pride parades!!

rofl
 Quoting: chuckles45


Every day is straight pride day. That you guys get your balls in a knot over one day a year is pretty sad tounge
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4366158


You know that is bullshit and a lame ass excuse. If straights paraded around shoving straightness in your face you would get pissed off. Gay pride parades are just trying to piss normals off.
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How isn't your shit shoved in my face every day? I just don't freak out, like an asshole, over it. All you "straight" guys who do nothing but think about gays all the time should start asking yourselves why that is.

There have been studies, you know...

In fact, here ya go. You're welcome.

[link to elitedaily.com]
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I'm still waiting for the straight pride parades!!

rofl
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Every day is straight pride day. That you guys get your balls in a knot over one day a year is pretty sad tounge
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4366158


You know that is bullshit and a lame ass excuse. If straights paraded around shoving straightness in your face you would get pissed off. Gay pride parades are just trying to piss normals off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60941111


How isn't your shit shoved in my face every day? I just don't freak out, like an asshole, over it. All you "straight" guys who do nothing but think about gays all the time should start asking yourselves why that is.

There have been studies, you know...

In fact, here ya go. You're welcome.

[link to elitedaily.com]
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Stop with the old lame "oh you must be a homo because you disagree". Why do you disagree with a straight society with only men marrying women? You must be straight..derp.
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Easy.

Because naked women, in any form, are naturally sexy to a real man.

Two fag boys together, not at all.

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Ok, thanks for your reply, and yes, it does seem to be this way. I'm just wondering why? Why is it ok for two women, but not for two men? Doesn't seem fair to me. (yeah i know, life ain't fair, lol). I have my opinions on homosexuality, yet think of it in terms of applying to either gender.
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I personally don't think it's "ok for two women".

It's just less visually objectionable because naked women are involved.


To prove the point, imagine two UGLY lesbians "together".

It's suddenly not very appealing at all.

:thaswhaddup:

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you homophobe and envy people are nazis.
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No. They're regular people born with an innate disgust at filthy sodomites. Normal people easily understand that plus and minus give balance and that plus and plus and minus and minus naturally repulse.
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If religion is normal and natural, why do people need to kill each other, pass laws and make other people god wrong? NOTHING is "normal and natural" except eating and defecating.

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Be a doer not a hearer of the bible. Jesus love the sinner but hated the sin.

Jude 1:7

7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
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"Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. One person has faith that he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats vegetables only. The one who eats is not to regard with contempt the one who does not eat, and the one who does not eat is not to judge the one who eats, for God has accepted him"

"Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?"
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Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
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As Christian those who live by the spirit not the flesh should not accept what is not the will of God. The bible is the judge of mankind.
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I'm still waiting for the straight pride parades!!

rofl
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Or the pedo pride parades.
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Well, there IS N.A.M.B.L.A.!
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Every day is straight pride day. That you guys get your balls in a knot over one day a year is pretty sad tounge
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4366158


You know that is bullshit and a lame ass excuse. If straights paraded around shoving straightness in your face you would get pissed off. Gay pride parades are just trying to piss normals off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60941111


no just pisses boring old-society-conforms like you off.
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You just admitted it is only to piss people off. Just live your life like a normal person. Being gay is not "new" or "progressive".
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no man, i would say "normal" rational thinking people would never start thinking about "why other people do stuff not liek me" and be offended by them.

you have the big problem.

what other people dont you like? people who wear socks with different colors? left handers?

why you care what other do? two grown man wants to fuck them in their ass. let them do it! it dont hurts you. if it does. you really must think about yourself. your takin other peoples lives as more imortant as yours and define yourslef "trough" them. cant you see yourslef beeing wasted for nothing?

what is normal? what daddy told you to do? grow up. and let it be.
yellin how bad muzzis are cuz they behad people but wishing gays the hellfire is more hypocrit than anything.
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I'm still waiting for the straight pride parades!!

rofl
 Quoting: chuckles45


Every day is straight pride day. That you guys get your balls in a knot over one day a year is pretty sad tounge
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4366158


You know that is bullshit and a lame ass excuse. If straights paraded around shoving straightness in your face you would get pissed off. Gay pride parades are just trying to piss normals off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60941111


How isn't your shit shoved in my face every day? I just don't freak out, like an asshole, over it. All you "straight" guys who do nothing but think about gays all the time should start asking yourselves why that is.

There have been studies, you know...

In fact, here ya go. You're welcome.

[link to elitedaily.com]
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This guy is a parody of himself. He's using the fallacy of "if you're anti-gay then you must think about us all day long" just to piss the poster off that he's replying to...and validating that other person's point lol. He's just trying to piss people off.

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you homophobe and envy people are nazis.
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No. They're regular people born with an innate disgust at filthy sodomites. Normal people easily understand that plus and minus give balance and that plus and plus and minus and minus naturally repulse.
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Yup. You can force us to pretend to be 'politically correct' but there is no way
for me to not feel a visceral disgust at the idea of anal behaviors -- behaviors which, by the way, affect EVERYTHING you do and HOW you think / perceive.

Then there's the whole thing about males downloading their DNA into each other. That DNA can persist and cause personality changes, etc. (Hence the
term 'queer' which is both more accurate and more descriptive than the once-
popular term 'gay', which is no longer uttered by actual straights.) I think this
DNA phenomena is what the New Testament means when it says that gay males
"receive the error of their ways in their own bodies" (or words to that effect).

That may be one reason queer males feel more 'wrong' than queer females --
there is absolutely no way that females can swap DNA the way males can.
(Although to me, both varieties feel 'very not right' and i particularly take issue
with queer females raising children, how can they not know any better ?)

Yes, i know about the argument (?) that 'straights do it too !' (That is, fall into
the addictive sewer of anal behaviors which re-train your brain in awful ways).

My response is, then they are not 'straight'. Or at best they are SINO -- 'straight in name only'.

Anal behaviors allow plasma energy forms to download themselves into your body, just like a driver gets into a vehicle. If that's what people want, that's what they want. But they should be informed first. That they will become somebody else's vehicle rather than their own person. . .
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I was listening to an interview, the other day, on a subject that I was really interested in learning the latest information about (NASA) but after about ten minutes, I was so distracted by the narriator's fake(gay) lisp, that I turned it off ... besides frenching kissing in public, I find the faked lisp the most anoying thing that gay people do ...

people with real lisps, spend a ton of money trying to correct their speach impediment - they spend hours practicing how NOT to lisp, to normal people, lisping is embarassing, but homos lisp for attention - and to let everyone know that they are homos (as if we didn't know without the lisp) ...

they are sick individuals ... attention whores that will do ANYTHING to get your attention - I sincerely believe that they should be give their own state - so that the rest of society isn't subjected to their influence - and so that they can give each other all the attention that they demand ... win win for all of us ... once they moved to that state, they wouldn't need to lisp anymore ... they wouldn't get beaten up for trying to fool straight people that they are Normal, they would be free to practice their choosen lifestyle without repulsing the rest of us ... they could have their own govenment and cross dress all they want ... I think New Jersey would be perfect for them
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Let me toss another question into the mix, as it rarely gets addressed either, but is also part of this stigma in society...

Typically some men who yell and scream LOUDLY against 'gays'... are often speaking only about two 'gay men' having sex together. While at the same time, seem to find it very 'hot' to think of two women having sex together. Both couples are homosexual. What's the difference?

And taking that question even further..... some lesbians have admitted that in their opinion there's nothing wrong with two females having sex together, but the idea of two men having sex together is not ok... even they often don't see it as the same thing. Those who have admitted this, sometimes struggle with the concept themselves.

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Two reasons.

Men have anal sex and that involves feces, regardless of how well they clean or prepare. I think anal zex is disgusting with men or women involved. It's shit, there is no way around it. It stinks, it is toxic.

And, women are beautiful. Their bodies are made to carry children, their shape is made to be attractive. It is biological, there is no way around that wither. There is also, generally, no shit involved. Two beautiful things are two beautiful things. A man is not made to be that way....the metro dudes and the tranny's are trying to look like women. Which never made any sense to me.
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That part, I can totally understand, yes.

So let's back it up... Two women are shown in a movie, kissing. A good majority of men get all hot and bothered over that. Two men shown in a movie, kissing.... likely will send them retching into the nearest garbage can.

People in society need to understand there is a stigma within the greater stigma of society. Either we are against homosexuality across the board, or we aren't. Can society really have it both ways?

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 Quoting: Myst_Wolfsong


You asked WHY men and even most women see two women as hot and two men as gross. I answered that question. I don't believe that being gay is normal either way, but if I see two good looking naked women, as a man, it is not going to gross me out.

Now if it is two of the flat top, man looking butch lesbians, than that is the same as two men.
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you homophobe and envy people are nazis.
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No. They're regular people born with an innate disgust at filthy sodomites. Normal people easily understand that plus and minus give balance and that plus and plus and minus and minus naturally repulse.
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Yup. You can force us to pretend to be 'politically correct' but there is no way
for me to not feel a visceral disgust at the idea of anal behaviors -- behaviors which, by the way, affect EVERYTHING you do and HOW you think / perceive.

Then there's the whole thing about males downloading their DNA into each other. That DNA can persist and cause personality changes, etc. (Hence the
term 'queer' which is both more accurate and more descriptive than the once-
popular term 'gay', which is no longer uttered by actual straights.) I think this
DNA phenomena is what the New Testament means when it says that gay males
"receive the error of their ways in their own bodies" (or words to that effect).

That may be one reason queer males feel more 'wrong' than queer females --
there is absolutely no way that females can swap DNA the way males can.
(Although to me, both varieties feel 'very not right' and i particularly take issue
with queer females raising children, how can they not know any better ?)

Yes, i know about the argument (?) that 'straights do it too !' (That is, fall into
the addictive sewer of anal behaviors which re-train your brain in awful ways).

My response is, then they are not 'straight'. Or at best they are SINO -- 'straight in name only'.

Anal behaviors allow plasma energy forms to download themselves into your body, just like a driver gets into a vehicle. If that's what people want, that's what they want. But they should be informed first. That they will become somebody else's vehicle rather than their own person. . .
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where did you get that shit from!?!?!?!
omg, please never tell that to anyone on the street!!
reall, that was duisturbing stupid.
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