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Joe Camel
User ID: 66550858 United States 01/16/2015 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . I'm pagan, bro. The god and goddess don't have tolerance for this queer stuff, either. It's aberrant to the natural order of this world. Only neo-pagans think Homosexuality is okay, and they're equivalent to libtards in this regard. Ultimately, there is a dark vs light, right vs wrong, life vs death, etc. Ultimately you have to ask yourself -- and be honest -- which side would Homosexuality be on: Good ... or Evil. - Even if you don't take an interest in Politics, eventually Politics is going to take an interest in you. _ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66882854 United States 01/16/2015 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the gay or lesbian oriented person needs to discover and come out about is not their sexual orientation, but rather how much this orientation is unconsciously mandated by the human weakness of needing to be seen as a part of a social clique. Why else would a heterosexual man who never speaks with a lisp his entire life, since childhood, suddenly decide that he is gay and start speaking with a lisp? Joining the gay/lesbian clique is no better, worse, or different than joining any other social click. It's just a clique, something to Facebook or blog about. If the gay/lesbian clique wasn't being propped up into popularity by the social engineering of the main stream media -owned and controlled by arguably some of the scummiest humans ever to walk the planet- I wonder how much smaller the gay/lesbian clique would be? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57641770 United States 01/16/2015 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Easy. Quoting: Joe Camel Because naked women, in any form, are naturally sexy to a real man. Two fag boys together, not at all. Ok, thanks for your reply, and yes, it does seem to be this way. I'm just wondering why? Why is it ok for two women, but not for two men? Doesn't seem fair to me. (yeah i know, life ain't fair, lol). I have my opinions on homosexuality, yet think of it in terms of applying to either gender. . I personally don't think it's "ok for two women". It's just less visually objectionable because naked women are involved. To prove the point, imagine two UGLY lesbians "together". It's suddenly not very appealing at all. :thaswhaddup: . Holy hell man. I can never unsee that. That needs a warning. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66297161 United States 01/16/2015 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I personally don't think it's "ok for two women". Quoting: Joe Camel It's just less visually objectionable because naked women are involved. To prove the point, imagine two UGLY lesbians "together". It's suddenly not very appealing at all. I can understand that. It opens a whole new can of worms tho. . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66991234 United States 01/16/2015 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67083424 This list is straight out of the 1920s, congrats on this remarkable achievement! that list remembers the 50"s us-propaganda video why marjuana is bad and what it does to our children.. Really? At what age do you think marijuana is appropriate for use by children? Maybe you believe that an after lunch martini would be good for first graders? i should have exclamation marks for the children. the movie i mean was idiotic and grow fear from something which the humanity has done since 2000 years and now it got suddenly forbidden by nylon industrie by coorporation influence on government in the US. children should surely not smoke anything. but let me do it! I know the movie you mean. What you don't get is when this movie was made, it was a middle class social norm to protect the innocence of children well into puberty. Kids often did not know much or anything about sex or drugs or drinking until late puberty or marriage. This was true in America well into the 1970's Spiritually speaking, the sexual chakras or sexual awareness of children were not prematurely awakened before the rational mind could deal with these energies. This in turn produced a quality human being less likely to be sociopaths, psychopathic, narcissistic or psychologically bent or damaged. Now children are being blasted with sex well before they are ready to deal with sexual emotions and society is producing a bumper crop of sociopaths, psychopaths and narcissistics, which can only be partly managed by modern pharmaceuticals. These sexual politics were worked out in the 1920's by Freud and Reich and others. The idea was sexual repression produced a fascist society, while sexual freedom produced a liberal society. Of course, neither Freud or Reich envisioned 24 hr porn delivered free to your home on demand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67048937 Switzerland 01/16/2015 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok you religious retards.. please tell me, if beeing gay is "unnatural" and gay man (we figured out for womans its ok) will go to hell.. what about gay dogs? cats? bulls? please answer at least that question..bcuz you lost every legitiation to be taken honestly.. plasma in my ass.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67048937 Switzerland 01/16/2015 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the gay or lesbian oriented person needs to discover and come out about is not their sexual orientation, but rather how much this orientation is unconsciously mandated by the human weakness of needing to be seen as a part of a social clique. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66882854 Why else would a heterosexual man who never speaks with a lisp his entire life, since childhood, suddenly decide that he is gay and start speaking with a lisp? Joining the gay/lesbian clique is no better, worse, or different than joining any other social click. It's just a clique, something to Facebook or blog about. If the gay/lesbian clique wasn't being propped up into popularity by the social engineering of the main stream media -owned and controlled by arguably some of the scummiest humans ever to walk the planet- I wonder how much smaller the gay/lesbian clique would be? wrote the guy who just see steretypes of gays in the mass-media and believs that this is the only form of gays. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4124419 United States 01/16/2015 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Joe Camel I'm pagan, bro. The god and goddess don't have tolerance for this queer stuff, either. It's aberrant to the natural order of this world. Only neo-pagans think Homosexuality is okay, and they're equivalent to libtards in this regard. Ultimately, there is a dark vs light, right vs wrong, life vs death, etc. Ultimately you have to ask yourself -- and be honest -- which side would Homosexuality be on: Good ... or Evil. :jesus and satan: Satan will probably win, he is pretty buff, Jesus doesn't look strong at all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4124419 United States 01/16/2015 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the gay or lesbian oriented person needs to discover and come out about is not their sexual orientation, but rather how much this orientation is unconsciously mandated by the human weakness of needing to be seen as a part of a social clique. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66882854 Why else would a heterosexual man who never speaks with a lisp his entire life, since childhood, suddenly decide that he is gay and start speaking with a lisp? Joining the gay/lesbian clique is no better, worse, or different than joining any other social click. It's just a clique, something to Facebook or blog about. If the gay/lesbian clique wasn't being propped up into popularity by the social engineering of the main stream media -owned and controlled by arguably some of the scummiest humans ever to walk the planet- I wonder how much smaller the gay/lesbian clique would be? wrote the guy who just see steretypes of gays in the mass-media and believs that this is the only form of gays. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67048937 Switzerland 01/16/2015 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67048937 that list remembers the 50"s us-propaganda video why marjuana is bad and what it does to our children.. Really? At what age do you think marijuana is appropriate for use by children? Maybe you believe that an after lunch martini would be good for first graders? i should have exclamation marks for the children. the movie i mean was idiotic and grow fear from something which the humanity has done since 2000 years and now it got suddenly forbidden by nylon industrie by coorporation influence on government in the US. children should surely not smoke anything. but let me do it! I know the movie you mean. What you don't get is when this movie was made, it was a middle class social norm to protect the innocence of children well into puberty. Kids often did not know much or anything about sex or drugs or drinking until late puberty or marriage. This was true in America well into the 1970's Spiritually speaking, the sexual chakras or sexual awareness of children were not prematurely awakened before the rational mind could deal with these energies. This in turn produced a quality human being less likely to be sociopaths, psychopathic, narcissistic or psychologically bent or damaged. Now children are being blasted with sex well before they are ready to deal with sexual emotions and society is producing a bumper crop of sociopaths, psychopaths and narcissistics, which can only be partly managed by modern pharmaceuticals. These sexual politics were worked out in the 1920's by Freud and Reich and others. The idea was sexual repression produced a fascist society, while sexual freedom produced a liberal society. Of course, neither Freud or Reich envisioned 24 hr porn delivered free to your home on demand. i also think children should be protected from a lot of things we see in tv/inet today. but i cant remeber the chakra part in that fear-mongering us-propaganda video. and im also sure that if there is something like the esotheric world, genders cant play a role..think about. |
Em18966
User ID: 66273340 United States 01/16/2015 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If being female is Natural, Normal, And Acceptable, Why do Women get treated the way they do in most of the world? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49070098 fucktard Awesomesauce :) Wish I could give you some green. People refuse to believe how well programmed they actually are, and how little thinking for themselves they actually do. Of course, a lot of they people who have irrational hatred for gays also have no problem with women being treated as chattel or kept ignorant, barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. Two sides of the same coin |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67048937 Switzerland 01/16/2015 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If being female is Natural, Normal, And Acceptable, Why do Women get treated the way they do in most of the world? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49070098 fucktard Awesomesauce :) Wish I could give you some green. People refuse to believe how well programmed they actually are, and how little thinking for themselves they actually do. Of course, a lot of they people who have irrational hatred for gays also have no problem with women being treated as chattel or kept ignorant, barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. Two sides of the same coin S |
Rising Son
(OP) User ID: 66776036 United States 01/16/2015 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread has been very interesting and enlightening. I have seen responses along the entire spectrum of opinions, from moderate to extreme. I made this thread because I was honestly wondering why gay people needed to announce their sexuality to others. I thought it was interesting that I was personally attacked just for asking this question, gay people should encourage dialogue and discussion if they want to further their cause. Tolerance is a two way street, and demanding tolerance while showing none results in conflict and more intolerance. Thank everyone for contributing to this thread :-) "Be still, and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10 Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 65052277 United States 01/16/2015 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Uhm... this entire thread only exists because of your need to validate your sexuality...! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17599334 Please tell me you're not that dense! Your post isn't about gays coming out, it's about you being straight and not having to do that. I'm thinking this thread is not about the OP personally. Questions are being asked in here that we as a society may one day need to think about. As another person posted upthread, this whole thing is a stigma in our society. Some are pushing the idea that this is acceptable, while others are pushing back saying no it is not. Those caught in the middle seem to be just trying to live their own personal lives, yet cannot.... because of the stigma. As long as no one else (child or adult) is getting hurt/abused, what one does in their own personal life is between them and their creator. . That is very true, and is how it SHOULD be. However, when they prance down the road in their banana pouches, or claim that they were fired because they were gay instead of because they were lazy or didn't show up for work and now they're suing for hundreds of thousands of dollars, or coaching Little League or going on overnight camp-outs with the Cub Scouts, then it DOES become my business, or at least the business of DECENT society to remove them from the picture. "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66991234 United States 01/16/2015 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok you religious retards.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67048937 please tell me, if beeing gay is "unnatural" and gay man (we figured out for womans its ok) will go to hell.. what about gay dogs? cats? bulls? please answer at least that question..bcuz you lost every legitiation to be taken honestly.. plasma in my ass.. Gay dogs? I've never seen a male dog which was exclusively attracted to other male dogs. What I've seen is male dogs who will try to hump other male dogs if a female dog is not around. But never a male dog which would pass a female in heat for another male dog. Of course, it might be different where you live. I believe sometimes something in the environment spikes estrogen levels and all kinds of strange sexual peculiarities result. For example, you might be using estrogen-leeching plastic for your dog's water bowl. Think glass. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60744132 United States 01/16/2015 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread has been very interesting and enlightening. I have seen responses along the entire spectrum of opinions, from moderate to extreme. I made this thread because I was honestly wondering why gay people needed to announce their sexuality to others. I thought it was interesting that I was personally attacked just for asking this question, gay people should encourage dialogue and discussion if they want to further their cause. Tolerance is a two way street, and demanding tolerance while showing none results in conflict and more intolerance. Thank everyone for contributing to this thread :-) Quoting: Rising Son Did you ever get a straight answer? No pun intended LOL. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67090879 United States 01/16/2015 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have seen a rash of videos on the internet and celebrated in the media of people coming out of the closet to the their friends and family. They take a private matter of sexual orientation and broadcast it for the world to see. They are then interviewed by the media to celebrate their courage and bravery, encouraging others to film their coming out and posting it on the internet. Quoting: Rising Son I can't help but wonder why they feel the need to "come out" in the first place, let alone record it and post it on the internet, if they are comfortable with their sexuality. You don't see straight people doing this, and your sexuality is generally considered something personal. I am convinced that the individuals doing this are looking for both validation from others as well as attention. They are unsure of their sexuality and need confirmation from other people that it is okay. They also want to show the world they are gay to draw attention and praise to themselves to make them feel special. It is a private matter that should be discussed privately, not held up for the whole world to take notice. Doing something like this brings your credibility into question, because if you were secure in the sexuality, you wouldn't need validation from anyone. Your thread title question is precisely WHY many people who do not, per se, have objections to gays - DO object to the agenda. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40959433 United States 01/16/2015 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If being female is Natural, Normal, And Acceptable, Why do Women get treated the way they do in most of the world? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49070098 fucktard Awesomesauce :) Wish I could give you some green. People refuse to believe how well programmed they actually are, and how little thinking for themselves they actually do. Of course, a lot of they people who have irrational hatred for gays also have no problem with women being treated as chattel or kept ignorant, barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. Two sides of the same coin That's a straw man argument. It's a rational rejection based on instinctive disgust. Generally speaking, people who rationally reject homosexuality also rationally accept their innate instinct for favoring women who fulfill their natural role as mothers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67048937 Switzerland 01/16/2015 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok you religious retards.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67048937 please tell me, if beeing gay is "unnatural" and gay man (we figured out for womans its ok) will go to hell.. what about gay dogs? cats? bulls? please answer at least that question..bcuz you lost every legitiation to be taken honestly.. plasma in my ass.. Gay dogs? I've never seen a male dog which was exclusively attracted to other male dogs. What I've seen is male dogs who will try to hump other male dogs if a female dog is not around. But never a male dog which would pass a female in heat for another male dog. Of course, it might be different where you live. I believe sometimes something in the environment spikes estrogen levels and all kinds of strange sexual peculiarities result. For example, you might be using estrogen-leeching plastic for your dog's water bowl. Think glass. thank you. yes there is no other female dog. the male dog humped on the other male dog and start gayin him from behind. meanwhile my gaybunny starts to penetrate his friend dizzy, the other male bunny. also from the back-end. the queer snail, "erkel" just sitt and watch. what is the after-dead destination for those unnatural animals? why god has made them bangning them from behind if they have the same gender? can you find a logical argumenation for that? how stupid things can you guys keep telling to legitimate your hatered against "other" people/beeings? |
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Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 65052277 United States 01/16/2015 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Homosexuality is caused by one or more of the following: Quoting: Fist McKraken (1) childhood sexual abuse (2) being "turned out" in prison, college fraternities and sororities, or otherwise being bullied (3) peer pressure (4) succumbing to powerful social programming through mass media (5) children deliberately raised to be gender-confused/gay (6) choosing the lifestyle for social and career enhancement (7) prescription drugs such as adderall and vyvanse (8) children emulating an opposite-gender single parent (9) as a protest against social norms (10) to piss off parents (11) extreme narcissism This list is straight out of the 1920s, congrats on this remarkable achievement! Sometimes the "old" ways turn out to be the BEST ways. "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67048937 Switzerland 01/16/2015 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thanks op. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67048937 but noone answered where my gay dog and my gay bunny will go to after dead...and what about my queer snail??? :glp111: Animals don't have souls. oh good. i just calm down after your first hand information. lets tell dizzy that he has no soul. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66991234 United States 01/16/2015 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66991234 Really? At what age do you think marijuana is appropriate for use by children? Maybe you believe that an after lunch martini would be good for first graders? i should have exclamation marks for the children. the movie i mean was idiotic and grow fear from something which the humanity has done since 2000 years and now it got suddenly forbidden by nylon industrie by coorporation influence on government in the US. children should surely not smoke anything. but let me do it! I know the movie you mean. What you don't get is when this movie was made, it was a middle class social norm to protect the innocence of children well into puberty. Kids often did not know much or anything about sex or drugs or drinking until late puberty or marriage. This was true in America well into the 1970's Spiritually speaking, the sexual chakras or sexual awareness of children were not prematurely awakened before the rational mind could deal with these energies. This in turn produced a quality human being less likely to be sociopaths, psychopathic, narcissistic or psychologically bent or damaged. Now children are being blasted with sex well before they are ready to deal with sexual emotions and society is producing a bumper crop of sociopaths, psychopaths and narcissistics, which can only be partly managed by modern pharmaceuticals. These sexual politics were worked out in the 1920's by Freud and Reich and others. The idea was sexual repression produced a fascist society, while sexual freedom produced a liberal society. Of course, neither Freud or Reich envisioned 24 hr porn delivered free to your home on demand. i also think children should be protected from a lot of things we see in tv/inet today. but i cant remeber the chakra part in that fear-mongering us-propaganda video. and im also sure that if there is something like the esotheric world, genders cant play a role..think about. There was no chakra part in "Marijuana will drive you insane," movie. The notion of spiritual chakras is a helpful map of consciousness. What does that mean? Consciousness would be gauged by your primary interest. If your primary interest is sex or sexual identity then that is your consciousness and you are unlikely to move on to a higher, more spiritual consciousness. Basic stuff, if someone is at all interested in how the mind works. Sexual Energy powers the mind. Its largely wasted when expended exclusively on sex. |
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Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 65052277 United States 01/16/2015 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It just means if hetro marriage is legal then gay has to be legal.. Quoting: Superheavyweight 67003686 It's called EQUALITY.. A certain group of people can't do something that another group can't. Where did the idea of marriage come from? What is the definition? Gays should have equal legal rights! I'll always remember a gay policewoman who was killed in the line of duty. Her partner of something like 16 years couldn't get spousal benefits from the police because gay partners aren't married. Now the surviving partner had 3 daughters to raise. Her partner was killed in the line of duty, which has great spousal benefits, but she got nothing. Why does it have to be called marriage? How did two women end up with 3 children? There had to have been a man involved SOMEWHERE! "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40959433 United States 01/16/2015 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok you religious retards.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67048937 please tell me, if beeing gay is "unnatural" and gay man (we figured out for womans its ok) will go to hell.. what about gay dogs? cats? bulls? please answer at least that question..bcuz you lost every legitiation to be taken honestly.. plasma in my ass.. Gay dogs? I've never seen a male dog which was exclusively attracted to other male dogs. What I've seen is male dogs who will try to hump other male dogs if a female dog is not around. But never a male dog which would pass a female in heat for another male dog. Of course, it might be different where you live. I believe sometimes something in the environment spikes estrogen levels and all kinds of strange sexual peculiarities result. For example, you might be using estrogen-leeching plastic for your dog's water bowl. Think glass. thank you. yes there is no other female dog. the male dog humped on the other male dog and start gayin him from behind. meanwhile my gaybunny starts to penetrate his friend dizzy, the other male bunny. also from the back-end. the queer snail, "erkel" just sitt and watch. what is the after-dead destination for those unnatural animals? why god has made them bangning them from behind if they have the same gender? can you find a logical argumenation for that? how stupid things can you guys keep telling to legitimate your hatered against "other" people/beeings? According to the DSM-IV, rationalization occurs "when the individual deals with emotional conflict or internal or external stressors by concealing the true motivations for his or her own thoughts, actions, or feelings through the elaboration of reassuring or self serving but incorrect explanations." [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66991234 United States 01/16/2015 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok you religious retards.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67048937 please tell me, if beeing gay is "unnatural" and gay man (we figured out for womans its ok) will go to hell.. what about gay dogs? cats? bulls? please answer at least that question..bcuz you lost every legitiation to be taken honestly.. plasma in my ass.. Gay dogs? I've never seen a male dog which was exclusively attracted to other male dogs. What I've seen is male dogs who will try to hump other male dogs if a female dog is not around. But never a male dog which would pass a female in heat for another male dog. Of course, it might be different where you live. I believe sometimes something in the environment spikes estrogen levels and all kinds of strange sexual peculiarities result. For example, you might be using estrogen-leeching plastic for your dog's water bowl. Think glass. thank you. yes there is no other female dog. the male dog humped on the other male dog and start gayin him from behind. meanwhile my gaybunny starts to penetrate his friend dizzy, the other male bunny. also from the back-end. the queer snail, "erkel" just sitt and watch. what is the after-dead destination for those unnatural animals? why god has made them bangning them from behind if they have the same gender? can you find a logical argumenation for that? how stupid things can you guys keep telling to legitimate your hatered against "other" people/beeings? What's so hard to understand that if an animal doesn't have the appropriate natural outlet for his sexual instincts that he will express them in any way available including humping legs and humping pillows. To call this gay behavior is absurd. |