Careful now, let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

The first phase began in March... We're in the final phase now. So far everything has failed to accomplish the ultimate goals.

Don't worry too much, most people will adapt to life under the rule of absolute evil.. IF it goes that way.

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As much as I enjoy rooting for the underdog and clinging to what little shred of hope is still available, I'm starting to feel very uneasy about this whole E.J Snowden / PRISM / NSA mess. We all have known that the NSA has been monitoring and recording pretty much everything that everyone does online and wiretapping phones and reading texts and emails since G.W. Anonymous was the first ones to release the leaked PRISM documents and aren't they just a CIA/DoJ/DoD front OP? Then the whole crap about the mysterious changing name of one MR. Snowden? Is it Eric? Is it Edward? Did he exist at all? This whole scandal has led to an uproar all over the web where people seem to just not shut up about it. Yes, I agree it's an outrage but I feel like people are just playing right into the hands of the enemy like sheep being led to the slaughter. Whitehouse.gov starts a petition to have the investigation dropped and Edward Snowden recognized as an American Hero and the conspiritards rush to sign it and give their personal information to the Government in defense of someone they deem a traitor? Hmm seems legit! Now this "Troll The NSA" campaign? I wonder if being a threat to the NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY is the same as being a threat to NATIONAL SECURITY? This whole thing stinks to high heaven and I'm just not buying it. Any thoughts?

I've known about the current monitoring system for at least a decade. I was listening to a radio talk show while on a long drive one afternoon, and a fellow who worked with the North American monitoring of telephone conversations was talking about how certain words were 'picked up' by their computer scans which would flag the call.

One story he cited was the case of a mother whose son had just finished his first performance in his school play. During a telephone conversation she was having with her friend, she stated 3 times during the call that her son had 'bombed' and how upset her son was. The call was flagged then reviewed, but despite being benign in nature, the woman's name was henceforth on their automatic watch list and could not be removed.

If the interviewers story is to be believed, President Obama is correct in his statement whereby he said that nobody was listening to their telephone calls and I for one, agree with this type of monitoring. And let's face it. How could any country honestly listen to every telephone call made within its borders? The task is much too enormous to be effective.

I've had that feeling this whole time too! I've been hearing people who actually work for this surveillance program in question and they say there are NO calls that are listened to. It's merely a meta-data where a computer looks to match certain algorithms. If there are peculiar patterns, they have to get a court order to pull the calls.

Why would they blow this out of proportion? So they can move us into something else, some other monitoring system, some DNA Database, or Pre-Crime program? Then blame it on our wanting privacy? Interesting to say the least.

it seems that the lid was blown off when they released the movie ENEMY OF THE STATE. I never even heard of the NSA , before that movie, and in there gene Hackman says , that computers moniter all calls and when any one of the trigger words are spoken it is then , relayed into a more sophisticated analysis system.

you wanna bet there's not the manpower? where does all our money go to exactly??? things are not always what they appear.

there are hotels filled with people listening in on calls and whatnot from what i know...this is an intrusion of privacy against patriotic REAL citizens.

what THEY NEED TO DO IS KICK THE MUSLIMS AND ILLEGAL ALIENS OUT.....SECURE OUR BORDERS....and then re-address monitoring programs.

get the enemies out of land FIRST. FFS!

All tyrants reach a level of maturity where there is a need to purge the ranks. Dissolve authority. A quick read of history confirms this.

We only know about PRISM because they want us to. It's been going on since the 40's. "They've infected everything." -Sneakers

So, the tyrant's purge is underway now: emasculating police, military, and intelligence services. Attack the loyal that helped build the system in the first place. Replace them with mercenaries, the final stage of full-blown-murderous-bloodletting.

^this^ is a lie. there are people who are routinely monitored by the govt in REAL TIME and KNOW THIS ... even ACCEPT this as part of their job. it used to be you would hear clicks sometimes. anyway, certain individuals pretty much give over privacy to the govt based on the work they do....that's their CHOICE. it is NOT OURS....REAL TIME MONITORING IS AN ABSOLUTE INTRUSION w/o justifiable cause / legal rendering for such (as putin pointed out actually).

THIS IS NOT OUR CHOICE AND IT VIOLATES OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

i said from the beginning fuck the patriot act even though i have nothing personally to hide....and even so, you can still POP UP on their radar...FUCK THIS BS. we are not to be CONTROLLED!!! we are supposed to be free. NOT SLAVES.

All tyrants reach a level of maturity where there is a need to purge the ranks. Dissolve authority. A quick read of history confirms this.

We only know about PRISM because they want us to. It's been going on since the 40's. "They've infected everything." -Sneakers

So, the tyrant's purge is underway now: emasculating police, military, and intelligence services. Attack the loyal that helped build the system in the first place. Replace them with mercenaries, the final stage of full-blown-murderous-bloodletting.

Tell me more about what you know about these hotel ops. I've had some pretty bizarre experiences with hotels and surveillance methods. It seems a large portion of these alphabet agencies like to use these "extended stay" types as fronts.

I'll be here all week

from a personal friend whose name i will never disclose, but i'm sure our convo was monitored, (some people are cool with that / job / family / whatever, they have to be, but that is a CHOICE they made and ACCEPTED) but those who were listening, if so, which is likely, apparently had a "need to know" or "felt they did"....you are some anonymous person on the net and that's all i'm saying.

So edu-ma-cate me for a second if you don't mind. LOL Is it safe to assume what you say has failed is mainly gun confiscation because without that they can't accomplish....what goal are you referring to?

Tell me more about what you know about these hotel ops. I've had some pretty bizarre experiences with hotels and surveillance methods. It seems a large portion of these alphabet agencies like to use these "extended stay" types as fronts.

Who the fuck is Snowden?

your local plumber company could be a front...as could a cleaning company, the cable guy (meaning individuals). you never know who you are letting into your house. if you think there aren't people scattered on alphabet agency payroll all over the place then i think you are a bit naive. i'm not sure these tech companies didn't know what was going on, i kinda think they do esp. those all cosey with obama, but i think company employees can be found all over the place.....kinda like undercover inspector generals. i don't have a problem with them working here and there, but invading my privacy?!? i have a BIG issue with that, huge.

unless you don't want to open yourself up to ever having someone from an "alphabet" agency come into your home, i suggest you know how to do plumbing, painting, carpentry, house cleaning, etc....and only allow in people you know you can trust (if you feel you can trust anyone) to fix things...otherwise just know the person fixing your sink disposal could be an "alphabet" agency employee.

Something is not right. From Wiki we read that he survived a fall and broke both legs. He does not have credentials. I cannot understand how he had epilepsy and went into the Army...unless he had epilepsy from the fall when he broke his legs. I am not buying it.

Then the girlfriend. If we wanted a guy to leave the country and leave behind a girlfriend, we could not have picked a prettier one =- a dancer !!! Who is heartbroken....

If I were going to write a story for the tabloids..this would be it. I am not buying into this. Something just is not right.

what i found so phoney about this snowden guy was his insistence that china was not our enemy and how we trade and so forth with them. he could just be that stupid though. many people are.

something does not seem right....which is why i agree with the OP in saying don't sign anything about this guy. he is no hero, but neither do i consider him a traitor (at this point in time, at least)...he thinks china is ok? uhhhhh..... and he voted for obama for what sounded to me like very shady reasons.

I'm going to post in this thread even though it is
against my better judgment to do so...I'm getting so
f'ing paranoid about who is watching who--and what
lists are being compiled--that I'm wondering WHAT TO
BELIEVE anymore!

Listen....This Snowden fellow--I watched his video
supposedly filmed in Hong Kong--doesn't have the
body language of a person who is running for their
life. He wasn't red-eyed from lack of sleep or for
crying for his beloved wife and family he supposedly
has left forever...He speaks calmly and very very
intelligently to the interviewer which shows that
there is no ambient STRESS LEVEL in his life which
would affect his thinking. Trust me...a guy his age
and with his attachments from living the "American
Dream" would have TOTAL FULL-BLOWN P.T.S.D. from
going through what he has supposedly endured by
coming forward as a whistleblower and then making
a hastey exit to a foreign country...and WHY HONG KONG?
I don't get this at all! The guy is JUST TOO COOL
....AND NOT ONLY THAT--he doesn't really give a good
enough reason ("I just couldn't allow these misdeeds
to continue) for TRASHING HIS AND HIS WIFE'S LIVES
--let alone to make him a certain TARGET for
disappearance.
Sorry....but not signing any petition here...not
getting the tissue from the kleenex box to cry
for his wife....IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. Just another
'FAIL'!! (qUESTION is...who benefits from the American
public making this Snowden guy their new poster-child
for whitle-blower amnesty? Is there someone sitting
in prison right now WHO SHOULD BE GETTING OUR ATTENTION?
(But isn't because everyone's eyes are on Snowden?)
There is "something FISHY IN DENMARK" and it isn't
the Chop Suey!
Cheers!
SK

As much as I enjoy rooting for the underdog and clinging to what little shred of hope is still available, I'm starting to feel very uneasy about this whole E.J Snowden / PRISM / NSA mess. We all have known that the NSA has been monitoring and recording pretty much everything that everyone does online and wiretapping phones and reading texts and emails since G.W. Anonymous was the first ones to release the leaked PRISM documents and aren't they just a CIA/DoJ/DoD front OP? Then the whole crap about the mysterious changing name of one MR. Snowden? Is it Eric? Is it Edward? Did he exist at all? This whole scandal has led to an uproar all over the web where people seem to just not shut up about it. Yes, I agree it's an outrage but I feel like people are just playing right into the hands of the enemy like sheep being led to the slaughter. Whitehouse.gov starts a petition to have the investigation dropped and Edward Snowden recognized as an American Hero and the conspiritards rush to sign it and give their personal information to the Government in defense of someone they deem a traitor? Hmm seems legit! Now this "Troll The NSA" campaign? I wonder if being a threat to the NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY is the same as being a threat to NATIONAL SECURITY? This whole thing stinks to high heaven and I'm just not buying it. Any thoughts?

I'm with you, m&m's. Green for ya for that. I just don't think this Snowden guy is who we think. What about the discrepancies about his name in the Media. It's interesting to say the least.

I would not get involved in any movements against the NSA, and give away my information.

However, that does not discredit the fact that Mr. Snowden came forward and verified to the public what we already knew. I don't see how this could be a psyop. Why would the government willingly reveal their spy program to the public when they know the reaction they will receive from the public?

thanks for the green!!! i used up pretty much all my karma points for a month of unbanned usage. :)

yeah, the name thing is strange. lots of strangeness about this. he could just be doing this for the notoriety / fame...and the whole i could end up dead thing for added drama. since he said the strange pro-china stuff and talked about being pro-obama, who knows if this isn't some obama instigated valerie jarrett style revenge against the intel agencies? idk.

all i can say is that TRUTH always prevails and JUSTICE follows swiftly and accordingly ... even if that wasn't the intention of people involved! Just keeping thanking God for truth being revealed and justice served!!!

thanks for starting this thread, OP!

what i found so phoney about this snowden guy was his insistence that china was not our enemy and how we trade and so forth with them. he could just be that stupid though. many people are.

something does not seem right....which is why i agree with the OP in saying don't sign anything about this guy. he is no hero, but neither do i consider him a traitor (at this point in time, at least)...he thinks china is ok? uhhhhh..... and he voted for obama for what sounded to me like very shady reasons.