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| THE INQUISADOR
User ID: 1375283 United States06/11/2013 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As much as I enjoy rooting for the underdog and clinging to what little shred of hope is still available, I'm starting to feel very uneasy about this whole E.J Snowden / PRISM / NSA mess. We all have known that the NSA has been monitoring and recording pretty much everything that everyone does online and wiretapping phones and reading texts and emails since G.W. Anonymous was the first ones to release the leaked PRISM documents and aren't they just a CIA/DoJ/DoD front OP? Then the whole crap about the mysterious changing name of one MR. Snowden? Is it Eric? Is it Edward? Did he exist at all? This whole scandal has led to an uproar all over the web where people seem to just not shut up about it. Yes, I agree it's an outrage but I feel like people are just playing right into the hands of the enemy like sheep being led to the slaughter. Whitehouse.gov starts a petition to have the investigation dropped and Edward Snowden recognized as an American Hero and the conspiritards rush to sign it and give their personal information to the Government in defense of someone they deem a traitor? Hmm seems legit! Now this "Troll The NSA" campaign? I wonder if being a threat to the NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY is the same as being a threat to NATIONAL SECURITY? This whole thing stinks to high heaven and I'm just not buying it. Any thoughts? Quoting: :.:  :nose23l36: SCOTLAND FOREVER America is the Grand Experiment..Let us not Fail.. Listed Number 1 in the Guinness World Record Book of EXTRA LARGE Steel Balls Opinions are like Farts..Only the very best linger on and on Great Men wake up to slay spam tards. Most are content to chase lizards. Therein lies the difference. Live Brave.LIVE FREE. Murphy is my patron Saint. I SIGN MY NEG KARMA |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 38813446 United States06/11/2013 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As much as I enjoy rooting for the underdog and clinging to what little shred of hope is still available, I'm starting to feel very uneasy about this whole E.J Snowden / PRISM / NSA mess. We all have known that the NSA has been monitoring and recording pretty much everything that everyone does online and wiretapping phones and reading texts and emails since G.W. Anonymous was the first ones to release the leaked PRISM documents and aren't they just a CIA/DoJ/DoD front OP? Then the whole crap about the mysterious changing name of one MR. Snowden? Is it Eric? Is it Edward? Did he exist at all? This whole scandal has led to an uproar all over the web where people seem to just not shut up about it. Yes, I agree it's an outrage but I feel like people are just playing right into the hands of the enemy like sheep being led to the slaughter. Whitehouse.gov starts a petition to have the investigation dropped and Edward Snowden recognized as an American Hero and the conspiritards rush to sign it and give their personal information to the Government in defense of someone they deem a traitor? Hmm seems legit! Now this "Troll The NSA" campaign? I wonder if being a threat to the NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY is the same as being a threat to NATIONAL SECURITY? This whole thing stinks to high heaven and I'm just not buying it. Any thoughts? Quoting: :.: :reeter: |
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(OP) User ID: 1448180 United States06/11/2013 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As much as I enjoy rooting for the underdog and clinging to what little shred of hope is still available, I'm starting to feel very uneasy about this whole E.J Snowden / PRISM / NSA mess. We all have known that the NSA has been monitoring and recording pretty much everything that everyone does online and wiretapping phones and reading texts and emails since G.W. Anonymous was the first ones to release the leaked PRISM documents and aren't they just a CIA/DoJ/DoD front OP? Then the whole crap about the mysterious changing name of one MR. Snowden? Is it Eric? Is it Edward? Did he exist at all? This whole scandal has led to an uproar all over the web where people seem to just not shut up about it. Yes, I agree it's an outrage but I feel like people are just playing right into the hands of the enemy like sheep being led to the slaughter. Whitehouse.gov starts a petition to have the investigation dropped and Edward Snowden recognized as an American Hero and the conspiritards rush to sign it and give their personal information to the Government in defense of someone they deem a traitor? Hmm seems legit! Now this "Troll The NSA" campaign? I wonder if being a threat to the NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY is the same as being a threat to NATIONAL SECURITY? This whole thing stinks to high heaven and I'm just not buying it. Any thoughts? Quoting: :.: It would certainly seem that way. Seems pretty appropriate to use the PRISM scandal to stir up the "civil unrest" that DHS has been gearing up for. 56% of Americans support Big Brother Surveillance. What of the 44%? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 38813446 United States06/11/2013 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As much as I enjoy rooting for the underdog and clinging to what little shred of hope is still available, I'm starting to feel very uneasy about this whole E.J Snowden / PRISM / NSA mess. We all have known that the NSA has been monitoring and recording pretty much everything that everyone does online and wiretapping phones and reading texts and emails since G.W. Anonymous was the first ones to release the leaked PRISM documents and aren't they just a CIA/DoJ/DoD front OP? Then the whole crap about the mysterious changing name of one MR. Snowden? Is it Eric? Is it Edward? Did he exist at all? This whole scandal has led to an uproar all over the web where people seem to just not shut up about it. Yes, I agree it's an outrage but I feel like people are just playing right into the hands of the enemy like sheep being led to the slaughter. Whitehouse.gov starts a petition to have the investigation dropped and Edward Snowden recognized as an American Hero and the conspiritards rush to sign it and give their personal information to the Government in defense of someone they deem a traitor? Hmm seems legit! Now this "Troll The NSA" campaign? I wonder if being a threat to the NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY is the same as being a threat to NATIONAL SECURITY? This whole thing stinks to high heaven and I'm just not buying it. Any thoughts? Quoting: :.: :reeter: |
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| curiouslyinterested
User ID: 25678800  Canada06/11/2013 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've known about the current monitoring system for at least a decade. I was listening to a radio talk show while on a long drive one afternoon, and a fellow who worked with the North American monitoring of telephone conversations was talking about how certain words were 'picked up' by their computer scans which would flag the call. One story he cited was the case of a mother whose son had just finished his first performance in his school play. During a telephone conversation she was having with her friend, she stated 3 times during the call that her son had 'bombed' and how upset her son was. The call was flagged then reviewed, but despite being benign in nature, the woman's name was henceforth on their automatic watch list and could not be removed. If the interviewers story is to be believed, President Obama is correct in his statement whereby he said that nobody was listening to their telephone calls and I for one, agree with this type of monitoring. And let's face it. How could any country honestly listen to every telephone call made within its borders? The task is much too enormous to be effective. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28689320 United States06/11/2013 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Benghazi !!! Seems to have just disappeared, doesn't it? My theory is this: Prez got cocky, higher ups set him up as a blackmail, Prez conceded and continues to push their agenda, higher ups created mass scandals as a distraction to make it disappear, using second tier organizations as the scapegoat ... IRS, NSA, etc ... and what will come of it? A few lower level resignations to show they cleaned it up ... back to business as usual. |
| SerenaSeesAll
User ID: 27488955 United States06/11/2013 02:17 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More on this Thread: Did NSA already use its massive surveillance apparatus to hijack the Supreme Court decision on Obamacare? ============================================================= Noticing Miracles Is My Hobby The Bible - When you carry the Bible, Satan has a headache, when you open it, he collapses, when he sees you reading it, he loses his strength, AND when you stand on the Word of God, Satan can't hurt you! |
| Mr. Toppit
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| Dr. Manhattan
User ID: 40023107 United States06/11/2013 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would not get involved in any movements against the NSA, and give away my information. However, that does not discredit the fact that Mr. Snowden came forward and verified to the public what we already knew. I don't see how this could be a psyop. Why would the government willingly reveal their spy program to the public when they know the reaction they will receive from the public? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 41281166  United Kingdom06/11/2013 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| SerenaSeesAll
User ID: 27488955 United States06/11/2013 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would not get involved in any movements against the NSA, and give away my information. Quoting: Dr. Manhattan However, that does not discredit the fact that Mr. Snowden came forward and verified to the public what we already knew. I don't see how this could be a psyop. Why would the government willingly reveal their spy program to the public when they know the reaction they will receive from the public? Agreed ============================================================= Noticing Miracles Is My Hobby The Bible - When you carry the Bible, Satan has a headache, when you open it, he collapses, when he sees you reading it, he loses his strength, AND when you stand on the Word of God, Satan can't hurt you! |
| Listen_n
User ID: 1580156 United States06/11/2013 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would they blow this out of proportion? So they can move us into something else, some other monitoring system, some DNA Database, or Pre-Crime program? Then blame it on our wanting privacy? Interesting to say the least. If we don't listen we will never hear the truth |
| :.:
(OP) User ID: 1448180 United States06/11/2013 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've known about the current monitoring system for at least a decade. I was listening to a radio talk show while on a long drive one afternoon, and a fellow who worked with the North American monitoring of telephone conversations was talking about how certain words were 'picked up' by their computer scans which would flag the call. Quoting: curiouslyinterested One story he cited was the case of a mother whose son had just finished his first performance in his school play. During a telephone conversation she was having with her friend, she stated 3 times during the call that her son had 'bombed' and how upset her son was. The call was flagged then reviewed, but despite being benign in nature, the woman's name was henceforth on their automatic watch list and could not be removed. If the interviewers story is to be believed, President Obama is correct in his statement whereby he said that nobody was listening to their telephone calls and I for one, agree with this type of monitoring. And let's face it. How could any country honestly listen to every telephone call made within its borders? The task is much too enormous to be effective. I seem to agree with you for the most part. The thing is what happens when people like that mother that got put on the list for saying her son "bombed" his performance gets rounded up and taken to a FEMA Camp? You would think that such an elaborate program like PRISM could differentiate between accidental or benign uses of trigger words and actual relevant threats wouldn't it? But I also don't think "trolling the NSA' or acting like a goof is going to solve anything eit |
| :.:
(OP) User ID: 1448180 United States06/11/2013 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would not get involved in any movements against the NSA, and give away my information. Quoting: Dr. Manhattan However, that does not discredit the fact that Mr. Snowden came forward and verified to the public what we already knew. I don't see how this could be a psyop. Why would the government willingly reveal their spy program to the public when they know the reaction they will receive from the public? Well, everything has already been known to the public for many years now. It seems like, in my opinion, that Snowden is a scapegoat or a "fall guy". I mean I like the official story, it makes me admire him and I like believing there are true Americans who are willing to sacrifice everything just to bring knowledge and awareness to the people. Still, other then the name of the program there's not much else that's really new here so why the big deal about it now? It seems like a smoke screen tactic to divert our attention off of other matters. You never let your right hand know what your left hand is doing sort of thing. |
| Sir France's Beercan
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| Dr. Manhattan
User ID: 40023107 United States06/11/2013 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would not get involved in any movements against the NSA, and give away my information. Quoting: Dr. Manhattan However, that does not discredit the fact that Mr. Snowden came forward and verified to the public what we already knew. I don't see how this could be a psyop. Why would the government willingly reveal their spy program to the public when they know the reaction they will receive from the public? Well, everything has already been known to the public for many years now. It seems like, in my opinion, that Snowden is a scapegoat or a "fall guy". I mean I like the official story, it makes me admire him and I like believing there are true Americans who are willing to sacrifice everything just to bring knowledge and awareness to the people. Still, other then the name of the program there's not much else that's really new here so why the big deal about it now? It seems like a smoke screen tactic to divert our attention off of other matters. You never let your right hand know what your left hand is doing sort of thing. Well it's never come out in the mainstream media. With all of these scandals going on, I believe they are listening more for whistle blowers. The mainstream media was probably dismissive about it before, but more willing to listen in light of the current situation. Not saying that is true, but you have to agree people would believe anything about the government (as longs as you have evidence) now that they are figuring out all the lies. |
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| :.:
(OP) User ID: 1448180 United States06/11/2013 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would not get involved in any movements against the NSA, and give away my information. Quoting: Dr. Manhattan However, that does not discredit the fact that Mr. Snowden came forward and verified to the public what we already knew. I don't see how this could be a psyop. Why would the government willingly reveal their spy program to the public when they know the reaction they will receive from the public? Well, everything has already been known to the public for many years now. It seems like, in my opinion, that Snowden is a scapegoat or a "fall guy". I mean I like the official story, it makes me admire him and I like believing there are true Americans who are willing to sacrifice everything just to bring knowledge and awareness to the people. Still, other then the name of the program there's not much else that's really new here so why the big deal about it now? It seems like a smoke screen tactic to divert our attention off of other matters. You never let your right hand know what your left hand is doing sort of thing. Well it's never come out in the mainstream media. With all of these scandals going on, I believe they are listening more for whistle blowers. The mainstream media was probably dismissive about it before, but more willing to listen in light of the current situation. Not saying that is true, but you have to agree people would believe anything about the government (as longs as you have evidence) now that they are figuring out all the lies. Well that's definitely a good point. I just don't like where this is heading. It sort of seems like they're trying to separate the wheat from the tares so to speak by identifying who sides with 'traitors' so they can brand them as 'dissidents'. Especially this "Troll the NSA" campaign and that petition to pardon Snow den on the White House website seems awfully suspect. I guess we'll just have to see where it goes from here. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 41532252 United States06/11/2013 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it seems that the lid was blown off when they released the movie ENEMY OF THE STATE. I never even heard of the NSA , before that movie, and in there gene Hackman says , that computers moniter all calls and when any one of the trigger words are spoken it is then , relayed into a more sophisticated analysis system. |
| :.:
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 372471 Canada06/11/2013 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Simple as that. Smart people are rarely interested in doing mundane tasks like peeking tom work. They all know they have better things to do and meaningful things to contribute. As much as I enjoy rooting for the underdog and clinging to what little shred of hope is still available, I'm starting to feel very uneasy about this whole E.J Snowden / PRISM / NSA mess. We all have known that the NSA has been monitoring and recording pretty much everything that everyone does online and wiretapping phones and reading texts and emails since G.W. Anonymous was the first ones to release the leaked PRISM documents and aren't they just a CIA/DoJ/DoD front OP? Then the whole crap about the mysterious changing name of one MR. Snowden? Is it Eric? Is it Edward? Did he exist at all? This whole scandal has led to an uproar all over the web where people seem to just not shut up about it. Yes, I agree it's an outrage but I feel like people are just playing right into the hands of the enemy like sheep being led to the slaughter. Whitehouse.gov starts a petition to have the investigation dropped and Edward Snowden recognized as an American Hero and the conspiritards rush to sign it and give their personal information to the Government in defense of someone they deem a traitor? Hmm seems legit! Now this "Troll The NSA" campaign? I wonder if being a threat to the NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY is the same as being a threat to NATIONAL SECURITY? This whole thing stinks to high heaven and I'm just not buying it. Any thoughts? Quoting: :.: |
| Senhor Testiculo
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9149098 Canada06/11/2013 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can't believe that 56 percent of Americans support Big Brother Surveillance! A point made by John Rappaport, with all this information you can do a lot of insider trading by listening to the communications of key people. You also do some blackmailing on the side. I do know that my phone calls and emails are being listened to and read. But not for financial reasons or reasons of national securty. Simply some Illuminati-types wanting to know what I remember and am up to. I guess they can bribe somebody to do that. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4645393 United States06/11/2013 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7087765 United States06/11/2013 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something is not right. From Wiki we read that he survived a fall and broke both legs. He does not have credentials. I cannot understand how he had epilepsy and went into the Army...unless he had epilepsy from the fall when he broke his legs. I am not buying it. Then the girlfriend. If we wanted a guy to leave the country and leave behind a girlfriend, we could not have picked a prettier one =- a dancer !!! Who is heartbroken.... If I were going to write a story for the tabloids..this would be it. I am not buying into this. Something just is not right. |
