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ALERT! Second SUN!! Very clear vid from Aug 13 2012

 
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It's the moon,it's Jupiter, it's lens flare...it's funny, every second sun posting has all the same shills with all the same bullshit...
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Except we're not shills and it's not bullshit.
and yet these pictures keep showing up...
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I'm sorry, you expected the idiots to learn something and go away? I didn't. Idiots with cell phone cameras and filter flares will always be present on youtube. I hate to say it, but the masses are less educated about astronomy than they used to be. You look at a kid's book about astronomy from 40-50 years ago and it's far more educational than the crap they have out there today. Here's the end result, idiots with crappy cell phone camera videos on youtube showing things they think are "brown dwarf" stars and other impossible objects showing up in the inner solar system.
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IF Nibiru is as big as many say it is...Could/would it not destroy any planet it came close too?...
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It would completely disrupt the orbits of the planets. Our solar system would not be an orderly place with the planets all orbiting on about the same plane with relatively low eccentricities. In fact it would be quite chaotic. I'll be making a thread about that shortly.

Chaos would not bode well for the development of civilization; it's bad enough that we have to deal with the occasional near earth object hitting our planet, it'd be far worse with the asteroid belt disrupted and large asteroids flying any which way. Even the planets themselves would occasionally switch their order from the sun. Earth's increasing eccentricity would result in wild seasonal temperature variations as our seasons would no longer be driven exclusively by our angular tilt, but also by our drastically changing distance from the sun each year.
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Oh that sounds lovely...NOT!
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my boyfriend ran in the house the other day to get me, he was telling me that I need to see something, I was busy and did not rush out but when I did go out side he was just looking at the sun in the sky and I looked at it and I told him that the sun looked a lot smaller and not as bright then he looked at me and said that the sun had already set. I thought he was trippin but he told me for sure he seen the sun set and this little looking sun was following it and had not set yet. I am going to record the sun set today and see if I can catch anything. I will post the video later on after I record the sun set.
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i watched the video and didnt ready any posts so forgive me if this has been brought up.

but if that is Nibiru then what happen to all the 'verified' reports that it is approaching from the south pole?
 Quoting: Oyster


Good question. I believe at certain times of the year it has been easier to see from the South Pole. However as it gets closer, there will be more viewing opportunities.

Another poster said it better than I can:

"Secondly, for those who say "if there was a second sun we should all see it by now" - you clearly don't understand anything about astronomy, physics, and in particular the nature of elliptical orbits in connection with the earth's own revolution around the sun.

Just like our common stars/ solar planets aren't visible all day in the same location, an incoming object could very well only be visible at specific hours in certain locations at varying angles, with a periodicity very different than those of our solar planets."


Peace and good luck!



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 Quoting: get_over_it


And then another poster said it better than that poster:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
You can't be both "by" or "behind" the sun and then simultaneously be visible "exclusively from the southern hemisphere." In fact, there's no reason at all why it would only be visible to the south pole, ever. The entire southern celestial sphere can be seen from anywhere in the southern hemisphere. But if it's near the sun, then it's visible in both hemispheres, and is not at all exclusive to the southern hemisphere. In any case, the way in which the poster you quoted tried to describe its motion is pure nonsense.
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^^ this ^^
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my boyfriend ran in the house the other day to get me, he was telling me that I need to see something, I was busy and did not rush out but when I did go out side he was just looking at the sun in the sky and I looked at it and I told him that the sun looked a lot smaller and not as bright then he looked at me and said that the sun had already set. I thought he was trippin but he told me for sure he seen the sun set and this little looking sun was following it and had not set yet. I am going to record the sun set today and see if I can catch anything. I will post the video later on after I record the sun set.
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Were clouds underneath the smaller sun?
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everything is alright , its not a second sun its just oprah winfrey bending over
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Although im open to the idea of nibiru and the second sun idea this camera footage seems a little suspect. If indeed it was a second sun should it not have a lens flare of its own that moves around in the same way our sun is being filmed in this video ?
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Nibiru is not coming. I don't know if I believe in it or not, And frankly it doesn't matter. Nancy lieder is the one saying [according to her 'Zeta' contacts in her head] that planet X is coming. She already has proving herself to be a big zeta fail. Sitchen brought out the possibility of Nibiru. How did those two [planet X and Nibiru] manage to be one in the same? I don't have a clue. But I know they shouldn't be connected. Sitchen is the one who connected [Nibiru with Anunnaki], [Anunnaki with humanities creator gods], [Nibiru returning to earth]. Sitchen also said, according to HIS work HE did, that the anunnaki will return either by spaceship or nibiru but sometime in 2090 and 2370.

So you're either listening to lieber's second fail, or you're placing false predictions on sitchen whom I remind you is passed on, and deserves much more respect than this.

You're also making us AnunnakiTards look like complete imbeciles. I'm into mythology and I will be the first to admit, I believe in the Anunnaki, as well as many other mythologies as indeed true, but I have seen NOTHING except bad edited you-tubes claiming nibiru is planet x and its hurling towards earth as we speak. So say what you want -"it's cloaked!!", "It’s behind the sun", whatever you may. But I don't see any reliable claims its coming right now, and sitchen being reliable is all up to your own opinions.
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Can you count the planets/moons with this thing? I count 6! hiding

[link to www.youtube.com]

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Download Stellarium. It will show you exactly what they are.

That is a VERY sensitive camera and makes everything look way brighter and bigger than normal.

Quote:
"Because of its sensitivity, even very faint things in the sky can appear very bright. The moon looks a lot like the sun and the planets appear brighter than we are used to seeing them. Even a crescent moon is so bright it saturates the image like the sun does to normal cameras. You can usually tell the difference because when the moon rises you will still see stars but when the sun rises all the stars disappear." [link to www.cfht.hawaii.edu]



I matched the date and time and put the video side by side with Stellarium. Perfect match ---> [link to i439.photobucket.com]
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Can you count the planets/moons with this thing? I count 6! hiding

[link to www.youtube.com]

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21880144



Download Stellarium. It will show you exactly what they are.

That is a VERY sensitive camera and makes everything look way brighter and bigger than normal.

Quote:
"Because of its sensitivity, even very faint things in the sky can appear very bright. The moon looks a lot like the sun and the planets appear brighter than we are used to seeing them. Even a crescent moon is so bright it saturates the image like the sun does to normal cameras. You can usually tell the difference because when the moon rises you will still see stars but when the sun rises all the stars disappear." [link to www.cfht.hawaii.edu]



I matched the date and time and put the video side by side with Stellarium. Perfect match ---> [link to i439.photobucket.com]
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Thank you for reiterating what I said a page or two back... I posted a dropbox link with the Stellarium image which is an exact match... fucking idiots.
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I have a question about space. Why are all the pictures taken by NASA dark? Shouldn't it get hotter and brighter when we fly toward the Sun? Why does it get very cold when leaving the earth?

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I have a question about space. Why are all the pictures taken by NASA dark? Shouldn't it get hotter and brighter when we fly toward the Sun? Why does it get very cold when leaving the earth?

Peace
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Huh? Well pictures of earth/ISS/shuttle in orbit etc are generally fast exposures set to properly expose those objects while they're in daylight. Those exposures are too fast to record stars. There are some pictures and even timelapse videos of the stars while the station's on the night side of earth though. I have no idea what you mean by it getting "hotter and brighter" when "we fly toward the sun." Low earth orbit is not noticeably closer to the sun than ground level. Space itself has no temperature, only atoms and objects in space have a temperature. That temperature is determined by the thermal properties of the object; how much light it absorbs, how much it reflects, and how much it radiates away from the sun.
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I have a question about space. Why are all the pictures taken by NASA dark? Shouldn't it get hotter and brighter when we fly toward the Sun? Why does it get very cold when leaving the earth?

Peace
 Quoting: Amy_A


Huh? Well pictures of earth/ISS/shuttle in orbit etc are generally fast exposures set to properly expose those objects while they're in daylight. Those exposures are too fast to record stars. There are some pictures and even timelapse videos of the stars while the station's on the night side of earth though. I have no idea what you mean by it getting "hotter and brighter" when "we fly toward the sun." Low earth orbit is not noticeably closer to the sun than ground level. Space itself has no temperature, only atoms and objects in space have a temperature. That temperature is determined by the thermal properties of the object; how much light it absorbs, how much it reflects, and how much it radiates away from the sun.
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Thanks for the info. How close to the SUN will an object need to be to feel the heat and ignite? Are you saying the SUN is not above our heads when we look up? If we travel toward the SUN shouldn't it be hotter and brighter.

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Can you count the planets/moons with this thing? I count 6! hiding

[link to www.youtube.com]

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21880144



Download Stellarium. It will show you exactly what they are.

That is a VERY sensitive camera and makes everything look way brighter and bigger than normal.

Quote:
"Because of its sensitivity, even very faint things in the sky can appear very bright. The moon looks a lot like the sun and the planets appear brighter than we are used to seeing them. Even a crescent moon is so bright it saturates the image like the sun does to normal cameras. You can usually tell the difference because when the moon rises you will still see stars but when the sun rises all the stars disappear." [link to www.cfht.hawaii.edu]



I matched the date and time and put the video side by side with Stellarium. Perfect match ---> [link to i439.photobucket.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1314371


Thank you for reiterating what I said a page or two back... I posted a dropbox link with the Stellarium image which is an exact match... fucking idiots.
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I posted the link to the Stellarium comparison photo on his youtube channel to show him it was Venus and the Moon. He deleted it. All these Nibiru youtubers are hoaxers!
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Re: ALERT! Second SUN!! Very clear vid from Aug 13 2012
I have a question about space. Why are all the pictures taken by NASA dark? Shouldn't it get hotter and brighter when we fly toward the Sun? Why does it get very cold when leaving the earth?

Peace
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Huh? Well pictures of earth/ISS/shuttle in orbit etc are generally fast exposures set to properly expose those objects while they're in daylight. Those exposures are too fast to record stars. There are some pictures and even timelapse videos of the stars while the station's on the night side of earth though. I have no idea what you mean by it getting "hotter and brighter" when "we fly toward the sun." Low earth orbit is not noticeably closer to the sun than ground level. Space itself has no temperature, only atoms and objects in space have a temperature. That temperature is determined by the thermal properties of the object; how much light it absorbs, how much it reflects, and how much it radiates away from the sun.
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Thanks for the info. How close to the SUN will an object need to be to feel the heat and ignite? Are you saying the SUN is not above our heads when we look up? If we travel toward the SUN shouldn't it be hotter and brighter.

Peace
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If you understand how far the sun is from earth and how big 1 AU of distance is, then you quickly realize that going into earth orbit will not make you noticeably closer to the sun. Objects don't "ignite" in space.
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IF Nibiru is as big as many say it is...Could/would it not destroy any planet it came close too?...Or would it just cause some destruction on a lower scale?...something bigger than Earth would/could turn this planet into a volcanic hell...killing off every living thing...but then the question of mass/denisity comes into play...
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Good question, I wasn't trying to generate fear with this post, just awareness.

If true, then Nibiru/Planet X passes earth every 3600 years or so, and there are many plants, animals and people around now so obviously many survive it's passage.

The problem we have now is our dependence on the fragile electrical and gasoline distribution networks on which our system runs. It wouldn't take much to permanently disrupt these.

If true, Nibiru (the Summerian term for Planet of the Crossing), is supposed to at it's closest pass millions of miles from earth. The problem is it's strong magnetic field, though 4 times the diameter of earth, it is 27x our mass. It's poles will repel our poles as magnets do, and when it passes will move our core so swiftly we will get a few dozen degrees or so of geographic pole shift, not the often heard geomagnetic pole shift, though we may get that as well.

Knowledge is power, this site has excellent articles on everything controversial that you won't get truth on from Google or Wikipedia, here are some Planet X articles from it:


[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]





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I have a question about space. Why are all the pictures taken by NASA dark? Shouldn't it get hotter and brighter when we fly toward the Sun? Why does it get very cold when leaving the earth?

Peace
 Quoting: Amy_A


Huh? Well pictures of earth/ISS/shuttle in orbit etc are generally fast exposures set to properly expose those objects while they're in daylight. Those exposures are too fast to record stars. There are some pictures and even timelapse videos of the stars while the station's on the night side of earth though. I have no idea what you mean by it getting "hotter and brighter" when "we fly toward the sun." Low earth orbit is not noticeably closer to the sun than ground level. Space itself has no temperature, only atoms and objects in space have a temperature. That temperature is determined by the thermal properties of the object; how much light it absorbs, how much it reflects, and how much it radiates away from the sun.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Thanks for the info. How close to the SUN will an object need to be to feel the heat and ignite? Are you saying the SUN is not above our heads when we look up? If we travel toward the SUN shouldn't it be hotter and brighter.

Peace
 Quoting: Amy_A


If you understand how far the sun is from earth and how big 1 AU of distance is, then you quickly realize that going into earth orbit will not make you noticeably closer to the sun. Objects don't "ignite" in space.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I guess that is why LoveJoy just traveled through the Sun. That also explains why we are seeing so many objects around the Sun. Why is snow on top of mountains while it is hot at sea level? Why is it so cold in airplanes? These may be simple question for you but all we have ever been told is how HOT the SUN is. How can it be hot on earth and not in space since the Sun supplies both heat and light and it is located a long way up. If it is a Super Gas giant then everything between earth and the Sun would be hotter.

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Why is snow on top of mountains while it is hot at sea level?
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PV=nRT. What happens to T as P decreases?
These may be simple question for you but all we have ever been told is how HOT the SUN is.
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The latter has little to do with the questions you asked.
How can it be hot on earth and not in space since the Sun supplies both heat and light and it is located a long way up.
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Space has no temperature. Only things in space, based on their thermal properties and distance from the sun (there's NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE JUST BY CLIMBING A MOUNTAIN OR GOING INTO LEO). The sun is hot, very hot, and we know this from measuring its spectrum. It's an excellent black body emitter.
If it is a Super Gas giant then everything between earth and the Sun would be hotter.
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Your simplistic assumptions have nothing to do with reality.
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IF Nibiru is as big as many say it is...Could/would it not destroy any planet it came close too?...Or would it just cause some destruction on a lower scale?...something bigger than Earth would/could turn this planet into a volcanic hell...killing off every living thing...but then the question of mass/denisity comes into play...
 Quoting: Settle4It


Good question, I wasn't trying to generate fear with this post, just awareness.
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Speaking of awareness and knowledge...

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Why is snow on top of mountains while it is hot at sea level?
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PV=nRT. What happens to T as P decreases?
These may be simple question for you but all we have ever been told is how HOT the SUN is.
 Quoting: Amy

The latter has little to do with the questions you asked.
How can it be hot on earth and not in space since the Sun supplies both heat and light and it is located a long way up.
 Quoting: Amy

Space has no temperature. Only things in space, based on their thermal properties and distance from the sun (there's NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE JUST BY CLIMBING A MOUNTAIN OR GOING INTO LEO). The sun is hot, very hot, and we know this from measuring its spectrum. It's an excellent black body emitter.
If it is a Super Gas giant then everything between earth and the Sun would be hotter.
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Your simplistic assumptions have nothing to do with reality.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Thanks for the info. How did Lovejoy cross right through the Sun and how are objects being seen on Soho and other places just hang around the SUPER HOT Sun?

Peace

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Come on people... If you can't see it with your eyes and only with the video cam its not there. Its lens flare. Give us a freaking break here!
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How can it be a lens flare if people are seeing this WITH THEIR OWN EYES and THEN take a picture?
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Never happens that way.



Yes, it ALWAYS happens this way.



Wrong. They just SAY or usually just IMPLY that they saw it first.
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Come on people... If you can't see it with your eyes and only with the video cam its not there. Its lens flare. Give us a freaking break here!
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How can it be a lens flare if people are seeing this WITH THEIR OWN EYES and THEN take a picture?
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Never happens that way.

It's not like they take a picture and suddenly there's a flare.
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Yes, it ALWAYS happens this way.

They saw it there before a picture was ever taken!!!
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Wrong. They just SAY or usually just IMPLY that they saw it first.
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I sometimes wonder when this sun epidemic started? This year? 2 years ago? I'm asking because there would obviously be more threads/videos of people claiming double suns from way back when.

Is it now that people are actually starting to look up more now than ever?
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It started after Nancy Lieder started talking about her planet hovering near the sun when her 2003 prediction failed and she had to concoct a new story to "explain" her failure.
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It's the moon,it's Jupiter, it's lens flare...it's funny, every second sun posting has all the same shills with all the same bullshit...and yet these pictures keep showing up...I'm not a scientists, or an astronomer, but I am a professional photographer and photo editor, and I will give you my humble professional opinion...whatever is in this video is in the sky adjacent to the sun. It's not a lens flare, reflection,refraction, or anything else.
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Then why does it disappear at 1:38?
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It's the moon,it's Jupiter, it's lens flare...it's funny, every second sun posting has all the same shills with all the same bullshit...and yet these pictures keep showing up...I'm not a scientists, or an astronomer, but I am a professional photographer and photo editor, and I will give you my humble professional opinion...whatever is in this video is in the sky adjacent to the sun. It's not a lens flare, reflection,refraction, or anything else.
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Then why does it disappear at 1:38?
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It doesn't disappear - it fades a bit. If you know anything about astronomy you would know this is quite common when observing astronomical images through various lenses.






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After reading a thread here last night, I stayed up to look for this thing.

At approximately 3:30 am (Ohio) I looked to the north east, and OMG !!! It was there. I tried to take some pictures with my cell phone, but couldn't get it to show up. I'm in the city with too much light.

Anyway... I just wanted you to know that I saw it !!!!




sooooooooooooo your saying you saw the sun in the middle of the night aswell as the thing next to it. highly impossible. the sun is still hidden at that time, as would this supposed object be.
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yeah wtf is that? and PLEASE don't say Jupiter douchebags....
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are you really that clueless? whatever
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No he is being paid and brainwashed to spread deceit otherwise he is a Neph himself.





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